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#501 Phantom_999

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 11:37 AM

 

Ah...even so though

I don't think you can say Vegeta is neglectful since he developed past the Android saga and actually cares for Trunks

 

And I guess Goku will always  be Goku, running off and leaving his family alone at random times

 

And that is not even Parental neglect on their part either cause Saiyan instinct was never about raising your child really cause saiyan children had to fend for themselves at an early age according to Toriyama. Where as it's not really excused here cause Sasuke did remember the warmth of his family And Naruto had both a father and brother figure in Iruka. 


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Posted 16 September 2015 - 07:15 PM

 

And that is not even Parental neglect on their part either cause Saiyan instinct was never about raising your child really cause saiyan children had to fend for themselves at an early age according to Toriyama. Where as it's not really excused here cause Sasuke did remember the warmth of his family And Naruto had both a father and brother figure in Iruka. 

 

Yeah, exactly, and even with that Saiyan instinct, Goku still tried to be there as much as he could for Gohan, even if he didn't meet Goten until he had been dead for 7 years. And since his return after Kid Buu's defeat, he's tried to make up for lost time. So that's no excuse for Naruto and Sasuke. I always figured Naruto would be a better dad than Kishi has portrayed him to be, but I guess he's lost some of who he is due to how things turned out, and his also losing some of the magic in his "romance" with Hinata (since it's the one based on rivalry, not Naruto's feelings for Sakura... >_>...)



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Posted 17 September 2015 - 10:57 PM

why naruto is the biggest scumbag

 

this naruto disrespected, lied and failed his parents wishes, punches his father and throws away his mothers retconned memento, he neglects his children, he doesn't enjoy his job, he doesnt care about his true friends, he doesn't care about his wife or her cooking, he doesn't talk to sakura ever, he lies to himself, he lies to his father, he lies to his friends, he lies to his friends daughter, he's a hypocrite, he's the least successful and most useless hokage ever, he tries to do EVERYONES JOB, he's rusty who can't take on anyone in base form, he punches his kid, he gets knocked out by his kid where he misses his hokage ceremony, he looks miserable and tired despite it being peace time and him having inhuman stamina, his kids aren't raised properly, his wife is still a door mat, he failed neji's wish by changing the hyuuga clan, he thinks obito is an inspiration despite obito's dream was tacked on LATER just to be even MORE of a naruto clone than he already was, so much he's got the losers hair cut. he cries and begs and spreads his cheeks for the worlds worst father and one of the biggest criminals ever, he's nonchalant with orochimaru, he doesn't train his own son and has his "friend" do it for him, he didn't know what the difference between love for a person and love for food is, and he'll want something because someone else has it.


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Posted 18 September 2015 - 11:09 AM

Whatever happened to the Naruto that never gave up, and would change the world for the better for future generations? Oh wait, that's right... his creator and some animation studio chopped off his balls and neutered him to fit within their standards so they could make cash, and not give a damn about character development and just throw it out the window as if nothing ever happened.


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Posted 18 September 2015 - 03:29 PM

why naruto is the biggest scumbag

 

this naruto disrespected, lied and failed his parents wishes, punches his father and throws away his mothers retconned memento, he neglects his children, he doesn't enjoy his job, he doesnt care about his true friends, he doesn't care about his wife or her cooking, he doesn't talk to sakura ever, he lies to himself, he lies to his father, he lies to his friends, he lies to his friends daughter, he's a hypocrite, he's the least successful and most useless hokage ever, he tries to do EVERYONES JOB, he's rusty who can't take on anyone in base form, he punches his kid, he gets knocked out by his kid where he misses his hokage ceremony, he looks miserable and tired despite it being peace time and him having inhuman stamina, his kids aren't raised properly, his wife is still a door mat, he failed neji's wish by changing the hyuuga clan, he thinks obito is an inspiration despite obito's dream was tacked on LATER just to be even MORE of a naruto clone than he already was, so much he's got the losers hair cut. he cries and begs and spreads his cheeks for the worlds worst father and one of the biggest criminals ever, he's nonchalant with orochimaru, he doesn't train his own son and has his "friend" do it for him, he didn't know what the difference between love for a person and love for food is, and he'll want something because someone else has it.

 

He worships dogs and reptiles. He blackens his eyes with soot like a prostitute, he dances and plays the cymbals in vile nilotic rites

 

If you don't understand this, it was a show on HBO that one could say Game of Thrones got inspiration from.

 


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Posted 18 September 2015 - 07:11 PM

So wait, Hinata wore her hair short here, then grew it out for 700, then cut it again in Gaiden and the Bolt movie? Makes no sense

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 07:18 PM

So wait, Hinata wore her hair short here, then grew it out for 700, then cut it again in Gaiden and the Bolt movie? Makes no sense

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 18 September 2015 - 07:19 PM

So wait, Hinata wore her hair short here, then grew it out for 700, then cut it again in Gaiden and the Bolt movie? Makes no sense

Yeah, I know. Even with the reason, it really don't make sense.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:50 PM

Yeah, Hinata's hair is just a mess, for the art book picture and that knock off MK family cover she had long hair, yet at the end of the last, during gaiden, and in the latest movie, she has short hair. Kishimoto just does not care about any sort of consistency, even in the most basic form.

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    Wish that Kishi would just stop trying to 'fix' Naruto, I guess that no one ever told him the phrase 'digging your own grave'. I will remember fondly the characters that made me love Naruto that were sacrificed at the all-mighty altar that is money (and crazy fan boys/girls).

Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:35 PM

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So she's really Roger from American Dad, which would sort of make sense since she could survive in space in The Last



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Posted 18 September 2015 - 10:08 PM

in my headcanon, all this is just a bad dream created by madara's IT. aaah. much better. its like cooling off into a pool after getting burnt


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Posted 19 September 2015 - 03:17 PM

why naruto is the biggest scumbag
 
this naruto disrespected, lied and failed his parents wishes, punches his father and throws away his mothers retconned memento, he neglects his children, he doesn't enjoy his job, he doesnt care about his true friends, he doesn't care about his wife or her cooking, he doesn't talk to sakura ever, he lies to himself, he lies to his father, he lies to his friends, he lies to his friends daughter, he's a hypocrite, he's the least successful and most useless hokage ever, he tries to do EVERYONES JOB, he's rusty who can't take on anyone in base form, he punches his kid, he gets knocked out by his kid where he misses his hokage ceremony, he looks miserable and tired despite it being peace time and him having inhuman stamina, his kids aren't raised properly, his wife is still a door mat, he failed neji's wish by changing the hyuuga clan, he thinks obito is an inspiration despite obito's dream was tacked on LATER just to be even MORE of a naruto clone than he already was, so much he's got the losers hair cut. he cries and begs and spreads his cheeks for the worlds worst father and one of the biggest criminals ever, he's nonchalant with orochimaru, he doesn't train his own son and has his "friend" do it for him, he didn't know what the difference between love for a person and love for food is, and he'll want something because someone else has it.


Don't forget letting Sasuke walk. Sasuke is an exile by choice after all. And is it really exile?

Edited by Nate River, 19 September 2015 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 19 September 2015 - 04:31 PM

Don't forget letting Sasuke walk. Sasuke is an exile by choice after all. And is it really exile?

He's just taking a really long vacation.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 19 September 2015 - 04:48 PM

Don't forget letting Sasuke walk. Sasuke is an exile by choice after all. And is it really exile?

 

Nope, I see it as Sasuke once again running away, this time from his true desires to be there for his friends, since the world has to be what Lady Hinata wants. X-P



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Posted 19 September 2015 - 08:09 PM

Don't forget letting Sasuke walk. Sasuke is an exile by choice after all. And is it really exile?

arent tsunade and kakashi to blame for that?



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Posted 19 September 2015 - 08:19 PM

Don't forget letting Sasuke walk. Sasuke is an exile by choice after all. And is it really exile?

Sasuke is hardly the only criminal out there, yet people alsays complIn about him being loose and only him. We don't know if the elders behind the uchiha massacre has been punished, kiri is responsible for at least two child kidnappings in konoha, Gaara murdered civilians as a child etc.

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 08:59 PM

Its True what I hate is Sasuke is just let off freely for all the kitten that he has done while others have died but this is Naruto we are talking about no gets what they should.

 

Its a reason why after replaying MGS much I find it far better than Naruto. After all look at The Boss.

 

 

"Snake, listen to me. She didn't betray the United States. No, far from it. She was a hero who died for her country. She carried out her mission knowing full well what was going to happen. Self-sacrifice... because that was her duty. The Boss' defection was a ruse set up by the US government. It was all a big drama staged by Washington so they could get their hands on the Philosopher's Legacy, and the Boss was the star of the show. They planned it so that they could get the Legacy that Colonel Volgin inherited and destroy the Shagohod at the same time. Only a legendary hero like The Boss could have earned Volgin's trust. Finding out where the Philosopher's Legacy was hidden was to be her greatest mission. Everything was going according to plan... but then something happened that no one could have predicted. Colonel Volgin fired an American-made nuclear warhead at Sokolov's research facility. Khrushchev demanded that the US government provide proof that it wasn't involved. They couldn't just abort the operation to steal the Legacy, so the operation itself was greatly expanded and revised. The authorities in Washington knew that in order to prove its innocence they'd have to get rid of The Boss and that one of their own would have to do the job. The public couldn't be allowed to find out about it, not ever. This, they concluded, would be the best way to keep the whole thing under wraps. The Boss wouldn't be allowed to come back home alive. And she wouldn't be allowed to kill herself. Her life would be ended by her most beloved disciple... that was the way the government wanted it. That was the mission she was given. And she had no choice but to carry it out... her death at your hands was a duty she had to fulfill. Out of duty, she turned her back on her own comrades. A lesser woman would have been crushed by such a burden. The taint of disgrace will follow her to her grave. Future generations will revile her: In America, as a despicable traitor with no sense of honor; and in Russia, as a monster who unleashed a nuclear catastrophe. She will go down in official history as a war criminal, and no one will ever understand her... that was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. But I think she wanted you, of all people to know the truth. She wanted to live on in your memory. Not as a soldier, but as a woman. But... she was forbidden to tell you herself. And that's why she told me. Snake, history will never know what she did. No one will ever learn the truth. Her story, her debriefing... will endure only in your heart. Everything she did, she did for her country. She sacrificed her life and her honor for her native land. She was a real hero. She was a true patriot."



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Posted 20 September 2015 - 12:11 AM

gosh i dislike MGS for its unnecessarily overly long ongoing dragged out monologues.


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Posted 20 September 2015 - 05:12 AM

Sasuke is hardly the only criminal out there, yet people alsays complIn about him being loose and only him. We don't know if the elders behind the uchiha massacre has been punished, kiri is responsible for at least two child kidnappings in konoha, Gaara murdered civilians as a child etc.

Sasuke doesn't get killed because his action is not a villainous one.
Usually a villain redemption is dead, especially if he do kill many people.

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 10:31 AM

Sasuke doesn't get killed because his action is not a villainous one.
Usually a villain redemption is dead, especially if he do kill many people.

Yes, but it is so abruptly butchered that it feels like all we need is a sorry and that's that. Hell, another series is about to explore that and if that is done better, what said about this series. Time like this you shouldn't read other to appreciate this one.






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