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Regarding Hinata i felt some trolling on her words.
WHen she made her vow on "path to radiance" it had clearly romantic undertones but suddenly turned out some sort of comradeship her words turned out to be exactly similar to Shikamaru's father and even then it was bought up on the previous chapter.

Later she reassures her will to be at Naruto's side but once again it was some sort off comradeship.

She's totally ambiguous.

Totally. But after the last events, unless something real crazy happens, her development cycle is pretty much over with. She stood at Naruto's side, held his hand just like she mentioned and even got a reason to start being more responsible and productive for her clan, though I doubt it might happen given her lack of a decent purpose in life. However if you look closely, every secondary character is finishing their development cycle during these war events. Plus, just like every other story, after the less characters roles are done with, what normally happens first, we'll have the resolution of the main characters drama probably taking place during the final battle between the two protagonists.

I just remembered a anime girl that Sakura is highly similar to.

Louise from Familiar of Zero.

 

Louise is a very stubborn girl. But, as Henrietta mentions, her heart is pure. Louise is nicknamed "Louise the Zero" for her seemingly poor magic abilities that usually result in explosions. During the ceremony when all second year students summon their familiars, Louise summons an ordinary human, Saito Hiraga. At first, Louise treats Saito as a servant or pet, having him wash her clothes, and having him lay on a bed of hay. Louise quickly becomes jealous whenever Saito interacts with other girls, and punishes him regularly by whipping him with a riding crop or blowing him up with her magic. As the series progresses, Louise begins to develop feelings towards Saito and eventually falls in love with him.

 

Tsundere right?

 

Edit: It's a good anime. Although quite short.

Hahahah, you've just nailed the reason of why I liked Sakura at first glance. Hands down, the prettiest fictional character of all time! Louise de La Vallière.   

PS: I'm saying that in the least pedo way possible.    After all I was still a minor when I started to like her. /fanboyism

Don't bother too much about it. Let them say what they want. They should realize that borrowing Naruto's power only fodderizes them more. Sakura is using her OWN power to do something. Just think of it as Kishi separating Sakura to show that she is different to K8 plus sai.

It is only natural for the competition to come up with such fallacies. They don't realize the flaw on their own logic, like if it were Hinata instead of Sakura being left out Kurama's cloak, there would be thousands of NH conspirational theories and how she was positioned there for a specific reason. Again, just hardcore fans acting like hardcore fans. 

 

I wish you luck and hope you get one.

Thanks, appreciated it. I'll should probably post some pictures later. For me this will be an actual achievement.    

Well I didn't expect this coming so soon. Never imagined the attack would literally land this time. Looks like I was right about Obito's time as the main antagonist ending after all.

And at least we've got an explanation of why Kakashi was aware of the events despite being in an alternate dimension.

Pretty much. This chapter made it even clearer which characters are more plot relevant. It is safe to assume that Sakura and Sasuke have a special meaning in the story and a special place in Naruto's heart, while everyone else who joined his "tails" are considered equally as his friends. 

Guys, what IF Kishi parallel Hinata to Rin? How would you react? He can pull chapter 615 on us and i'm not surprised if he do it again, ya know.. And what do you think will happen to narusaku?

This is highly, utterly unlikely. I wish I had more time to elaborate a good answer but I'll just say this: the only available comparison we can make regarding Rin is about her plot role since her personality characteristics have never been shown enough for us be able to make a proper analysis. So looking back at her situation in team Minato, we have a female member between two male rivals. She came to love the strongest and most skilled one while being loved by the weaker, dreamful one. Add this to the already confirmed fact that the weaker one, Obito, is just like Naruto while the strongest one, Kakashi, made Sasuke his pupil even teaching him his own unique technique. 

So rest assured... I can't be the only one that doesn't see how or where Hinata fits in all this.

 

I know.. I'm just saying what IF he does.

I would start to ship Akamaru x Pakkun.

look what i found...  http://25.media.tumb...bjvqo1_1280.jpg i guess they really are trying to use this panel as evidence

That's "our" Ninja way? Hm... no. That's Naruto ninja way. Hinata has just adopted his nindo for her own personal improvement reasons. It clearly doesn't mean anywhere near as much as fans want it to.

You know what would be interesting? The Alliance fodder reacting to Naruto latest speech and acknowledging his nindo, since I assume they are all still telephatically connected, and possibly even adopting it to themselves given it is a common trait of lesser characters to identify themselves with the main character ideals. Hell yeah. I would like to see then anyone arguing that Hinata's case is different.

Bottom line: Adopting the main character's beliefs doesn't mean anything anywhere. 

Ok, I'm into this round too. I'm Spoiler-tagging 'cause it ended up a little longer than I imagined. You have been warned.    

Can you believe someone in MangaFox made a thread about Naruto being useless without Kurama?

 

Sorry to bring yet another topic like this.  If there is a more suitable place for this kind of discussion, please tell me.  I just got peeved finding something like that.  Thank goodness the majority were people who thought that was bulllcrap and put a whole lot of evidence to state the contrary, but there were few who actually agreed, and no doubt they were Sasuke "fans".

I don't know how this is relevant. The same argument can very well be used against anyone in any circumstance. Kakashi would be useless without Obito (and therefore wouldn't have his trademark Sharingan which get him to be known as the Copy-Ninja). Sasuke would be useless without his Uchiha heritage. Goku would be useless if he weren't a Saiyan. You got the logic (or the lack of it).

The author has chosen to give these characters such "powers" so they could fulfill their plot roles and therefore their purpose within the story.  It makes absolutely no sense to argue that if you change or remove a significant and meaningful part of the story, things would be different. No kitten Sherlock.

But if it were to be that Naruto doesn't have the Kyuubi, then it simply wouldn't be the story Masashi Kishimoto is writing and I enjoy following anymore. So honestly I couldn't care less.

All I wanna say is that RED is much more cooler than ASH. Period!

Also I'm very excited for this special, I really enjoyed the whole Red journey in Pokémon Blue/Red and its remakes. Although it blew my mind a little when I realized Blue's real name is in fact Green. Although it makes sense I guess.

My impression is that it detracted from the significance of Sakura and Naruto's efforts to some extent. They both played their roles but Tsunade's casualness when healing Shikamaru is damaging. It accentuates the existing gap between Sakura and Tsunade which I hoped Kishi would attempt to close instead of widen.

I had the same unfortunate impression. I wonder at the event of an earlier arrival if Tsunade would have been able to heal Shikamaru with a similar efficiency. Yes, instead of closing the gap, these last events could have increased the difference between the old and new female Sannins. Let's just wait and see if Kishimoto proves ours impressions wrong, hopefully.

I honestly don't know how much the SS ship can take anymore before exploding. It has already been sunk to the bottom of the bottom of the ocean, yet fans still find the guts to claim Sakura will go back to fangirling Sasuke as soon as he shows up on the battlefield. After all, to stay with Sasuke she only has to dismiss very small things such as murder.

The only string of hope that kept a SS relationship barely alive were Sakura's one-sided feelings for Sasuke at the end of part 1, while Sasuke on the other hand has never shown any kind of interest of any kind in anyone. 

But ok, let's play along for a while. When Sasuke comes back, Sakura will first and foremost show her concern for him once again and make it very clear to every reader how she loves him. Therefore it is expected to see Sakura thinking about Sasuke more than anyone else, being concerned about his main objectives, demonstrating then she wants to be with him. Not only that, but Sasuke will also realize that deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep inside his heart he had feelings for Sakura all along, and will start to treat her differently from the way he did during all part 1. 

Except.... you guessed it right. He has already been there for 19 chapters. And still, we haven't seen anything, I repeat, anything that could even be slightly considered as a SS moment or evidence. Not a single thought about Sasuke's well being, his feelings, his goals, his happiness, were shown in Sakura's mind. Absolutely nothing. The only thing shown was her reaction to Sai's question: "How do you really feel about Sasuke?"

Sakura's Answer

 

Add that to the fact Sasuke tried to kill her three times, I really am astonished at how she was able to perform a smile while thinking of someone like that. I wound't be able to do it myself.

She has grown up to be a person capable of recognizing her own mistakes and give her best to fix them. Capable of seeing who really deserves to be happy, whose dreams are really worth of fighting for. Capable of recognizing herself as not worthy of being loved by such person, and at the same time fight and protect those dreams even if it comes to the cost of her own life. The one thing she is not capable yet is to accept she has actually fallen in love with the last person in the world she would've ever expected.

Both sides of the SS rope have fallen. I'm not bashing or trying to disrespect anyone's opinion, I'm just stating a undenyable fact. Whether some poeple like it or not, SS is over. Time to move on and...

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But the hater is the loudest one.

Haters can't make any sound if you don't listen to them.

What makes them exist is the credit they are given. Simply stop letting anyone screw your own experience while following the story you like and you will notice how they make little to no difference.

As for some others questioning how tsunade cured Shikamaru so quick, well few quick reasons:

To be honest I don't see what Tsunade did as "curing". Shikamaru was already out of danger at that moment, and she apparently just transferred a little of chakra so he could get back to his "normal" self. 

Actually it's not a secret that Sakura does feel sexually attracted by Naruto. By that I don't mean she wants to have sex with him or anything of that sort, it's just that she feels the normal attraction expected when a girl sees a pretty boy, that's evidenced when she first sees him in part 2. 

Romantically in love I'd say she still isn't for a fair amount of reasons. The most important is plot-wise because it would simply end the love triangle and that's obviously not a good thing if it happens to early. Sasuke being around is actually a good thing because it has created the perfect environment for Sakura to confront her feelings. Sasuke-kun is right next to her. When that crucial moment arrives, will she continue fangirling Sasuke like before or will she realize how Naruto has become more important to her?

Hm its cute how she looks at him<3

 

but i have a question since Naruto is going to be with Sakura

 

What about Hinata? lot of NH fans told me this

 

She was always willing to win Naruto's love

 

What you guys think about this?

 

what would happen to Hinata if NaruSaku happened?

For me Hinata's fate will be similar to Lee's. Both characters have shown romantic feelings towards a main character and they both were willing to risk their lives in order to protect them... Hanabi started a good thread about this subject.

But in the end I expect them to move on and start something new like becoming a productive and respectful member to her clan in Hinata's case.

Most likely the biggest one of all, in UNS3 as you play the game, 2 paths are open for you to gain items during boss battles of the game, heroes and legends. Heroes is usually easier but tends to follow the canon path such as when facing the 9 tails, you can get bees help or not, legends is harder but Naruto fights Kurama alone without bee in this path. When you hit the max rank in both of these catagories, there are 2 special missions those who walk with heroes and legends, having Naruto go on a trip with Sakura and Hinata respectively. And some people think that because the legends path is harder that this should somehow consititue NH as going canon

Let me get this straight. There are two paths available for the player to choose, at Heroes Naruto goes on a mission with Sakura and at Legends he goes with Hinata. Let's dismiss the major fact that any of this isn't canon for the sole purpose of this mental exercise.

They say because the Legends path is harder, it means Hinata is the love choice Naruto will end up making therefore turning such pairing into canon. But why would the difficulty level of a journey be the factor that influences Naruto's decision? This is just... random. I can argue literally anything with this kind of approach.

We can easily look at this in a different, more perspective way. Hinata's mission besides being more difficult, it diverges from the canon plot, while Sakura's is at a more standard level and is more attached to the canonical material.

Therefore we can easily assume that a NH ending is not only a harder event, but it also diverges from the canonical material that has been written so far. Right? No. Because any of this matters.

Just my two cents on the subject showing how we can create arguments and false assumptions based on materials derived from the manga.