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Posted 18 September 2019 - 06:06 PM

This podcast is really good. James even give me a shout out.

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 12:39 AM

Cool, I need a better mic to join.

 

Yeah, if I had a better one, I might be able to join given I got one but it could be better. I'd also be glad to offer my services to the discussion.



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Posted 19 September 2019 - 01:20 AM

Credit where credit is due


Thanks again man for both shout outs. That podcast was good I've only got 20 minutes left. Plus I made sure the page amount of the series was right. Love to hear a podcast on everything wrong with the last.

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 04:34 AM

Thanks again man for both shout outs. That podcast was good I've only got 20 minutes left. Plus I made sure the page amount of the series was right. Love to hear a podcast on everything wrong with the last.

 

 

That may be something we're considering doing lol 

 

ya'll just got wait and see  :D


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Posted 19 September 2019 - 02:12 PM

That may be something we're considering doing lol 
 
ya'll just got wait and see  :D

I can't wait I've been waiting for someone to rip that piece of kitten movie a new one especially if James is there helping. Maybe try to get first evil 100 in on it.

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 04:19 PM

Thanks again man for both shout outs. That podcast was good I've only got 20 minutes left. Plus I made sure the page amount of the series was right. Love to hear a podcast on everything wrong with the last.

 
the better title would be, WHAT IS NOT WRONG with "The Last: Naruto the movie",? Other than the fact that it completely feels like a bloody NH fan fiction sprung to life. I mean seriously, it ruined the main character that fans have been following for 15 years and was falsely advertised as a movie about Team 7's bonds, wasn't it? Kakashi made a bare minimum appearance, Sasuke was nowhere near Naruto's vicinity in the one scene he was in and Sakura was being like a mindless NH matchmaker and not to mention hypocritically told Naruto his feelings for her weren't genuine and were only out of rivalry for Sasuke. (so I suppose that description FITS ALL OF THE FAN GIRLS that Sasuke used to have during their academy days then)
 
And the WORST insult to the very core premise of the series made in that very movie is that the MC who is suppose to be Naruto (again that is why I have always until now and will always from now on use the the name for what he is currently, Nardo Scumzamaki) GAVE UP on wanting to saving the world, his village and his friends because His "wife to be" rejected him. That BS plot point had audacity to grace the unsuspecting, hapless audiences that were suckered and honey trapped into watching this trash heap of a movie, despite the core theme OF THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE being about a boy who was hated by almost everyone in his entire community, was avoided like plague, and was blamed for being a victim of circumstance, but is still able to become compassionate and selfless ultimately. The idea was that so many times has that hatred from almost everyone around him caused him mere inches from snapping that he may have started becoming a sociopathic killer like Gaara was, but instead became someone who's horrible experiences turned him in to a empathetic young man that can understand the pain of loneliness, being ostracized and wanting acceptance and belonging. THAT CHARACTER gave up because he fell in love with the sole fan girl that he ever had by WATCHING how she felt through a genjutsu/ illusion of said fan girl's memories. WHAT A WONDERFUL MESSAGE THAT IS, someone giving up on life and caring about anyone else because of a love rejection, even though he's had it much worse before and has LOST loved ones who were K.I.A.
 
That is what infuriates me more than any notion that this was a NaruHina movie MADE for NaruHina fans to "get wet and horny" at the thought of, and scream at the top of their lungs that THEIR SHIP WON :zaru: This and all of the kitten spewed out ever since destroyed any enjoyment that I had of this franchise and I'm NEVER returning to it. Plus, I'm sure anyone that DOES NOT HAVE an obsessed "Hinatatheism mindset and only worried about Hinata getting what she deserves" would agree  


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Posted 19 September 2019 - 04:30 PM

 

the better title would be, WHAT IS NOT WRONG with "The Last: Naruto the movie",? other than the fact that it is completely feels like a bloody NH fanfiction sprung to life. I mean seriously, it ruined the main character that fans have been following for 15 years and was falsely advertised as a movie about Team 7's bonds, wasn't it? Kakashi made a bare minimum appearance, Sasuke was nowhere near Naruto's vicinity and Sakura was being like a mindless NH matchmaker and not to mention hypocritically told Naruto his feelings for her weren't genuine and were only out of rivalry for Sasuke. (so I suppose that description FITS ALL OF THE FAN GIRLS that Sasuke used to have in during their academy days then)

 

And the WORST insult to the very core premise of the series made in that very movie is that the MC who is suppose to be Naruto (again that is why I have always until now and will always from now on use the the name for what he is currently, Nardo Scumzamaki) GAVE UP on wanting to saving the world, his village and his friends because His "wife to be" rejected him. That BS plot point had audacity to grace the unsuspecting, hapless audiences that were suckered and honey trapped into watching this trash heap of a movie, despite the core theme OF THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE being about a boy who was hated by everyone in his entire community, was avoided like plague, and was blamed for being a victim of circumstance still being a compassionate and selfless person ultimately. The idea was that so many times has that hatred from almost everyone around him almost caused him to snap that he may have started becoming a sociopathic killer like Gaara was, but ultimately became someone who's horrible experiences turned him in to a empathetic person that can understand pain of Loneliness, being ostracized and wanting acceptance and belonging. THAT CHARACTER gave up because he fell in love with the sole fan girl that he ever had by WATCHING how she felt through a genjutsu/ illlusion of said fangirl's memories. WHAT A WONDERFUL MESSAGE THAT IS, Someone giving up on life and caring about anyone because of a love rejection, even though he's had it much worse before and has LOST loved ones who were K.I.A.

 

That is what infuriates me more than any notion that this was a NaruHina movie MADE for NaruHina fans to "get wet and horny" at the thought of and scream at the top of their lungs that THEIR SHIP WON :zaru: This and all of the kitten spewed out ever since destroyed any enjoyment that I had of this franchise and I'm NEVER returning to it. Plus, I'm sure anyone that DOES NOT HAVE a a obsessed "Hinatatheism mindset and only worried about Hinata getting what she deserves" would agree  

 

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 12:11 AM

Guess what you guys, for the 20th Anniversary of the Series' Debut & 5 Year Anniversary of the Serie's Finale, 

 

The old NaruSaku Crew and I have reassembled for a Podcast on a special Occasion, the topic of Part 1 vs Part 2:

 

 

 

Get ready to take a trip down memory lane, I got say it felt just like old times    :D

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 01:40 AM

the better title would be, WHAT IS NOT WRONG with "The Last: Naruto the movie",? Other than the fact that it completely feels like a bloody NH fan fiction sprung to life. I mean seriously, it ruined the main character that fans have been following for 15 years and was falsely advertised as a movie about Team 7's bonds, wasn't it? Kakashi made a bare minimum appearance, Sasuke was nowhere near Naruto's vicinity in the one scene he was in and Sakura was being like a mindless NH matchmaker and not to mention hypocritically told Naruto his feelings for her weren't genuine and were only out of rivalry for Sasuke. (so I suppose that description FITS ALL OF THE FAN GIRLS that Sasuke used to have during their academy days then)
 
And the WORST insult to the very core premise of the series made in that very movie is that the MC who is suppose to be Naruto (again that is why I have always until now and will always from now on use the the name for what he is currently, Nardo Scumzamaki) GAVE UP on wanting to saving the world, his village and his friends because His "wife to be" rejected him. That BS plot point had audacity to grace the unsuspecting, hapless audiences that were suckered and honey trapped into watching this trash heap of a movie, despite the core theme OF THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE being about a boy who was hated by almost everyone in his entire community, was avoided like plague, and was blamed for being a victim of circumstance, but is still able to become compassionate and selfless person ultimately. The idea was that so many times has that hatred from almost everyone around him caused inches from snapping that he may have started becoming a sociopathic killer like Gaara was, but ultimately became someone who's horrible experiences turned him in to a empathetic person that can understand the pain of loneliness, being ostracized and wanting acceptance and belonging. THAT CHARACTER gave up because he fell in love with the sole fan girl that he ever had by WATCHING how she felt through a genjutsu/ illlusion of said fangirl's memories. WHAT A WONDERFUL MESSAGE THAT IS, someone giving up on life and caring about anyone because of a love rejection, even though he's had it much worse before and has LOST loved ones who were K.I.A.
 
That is what infuriates me more than any notion that this was a NaruHina movie MADE for NaruHina fans to "get wet and horny" at the thought of, and scream at the top of their lungs that THEIR SHIP WON :zaru: This and all of the kitten spewed out ever since destroyed any enjoyment that I had of this franchise and I'm NEVER returning to it. Plus, I'm sure anyone that DOES NOT HAVE a a obsessed "Hinatatheism mindset and only worried about Hinata getting what she deserves" would agree

I just want someone to rip it a new one cause that movie is so bad and boring and makes no damn sense. Though my way it's a bit different and sets up Naruto downfall story wide
  

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Posted 21 September 2019 - 12:20 AM

the last was written by a romance specialist sp dug up it's a literal nh fanfic that kishi played a limited role in



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Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:15 AM

the last was written by a romance specialist sp dug up it's a literal nh fanfic that kishi played a limited role in

 

Pretty much.



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Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:30 AM

the last was written by a romance specialist sp dug up it's a literal nh fanfic that kishi played a limited role in

 

Kishi even confirmed it too by saying it was written by a team of shojo writers.


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:45 AM

 

Kishi even confirmed it too by saying it was written by a team of shojo writers.

 

What's worse that those said writer(s) admitted in their interviews that they didn't research the series.


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:52 AM

 

What's worse that those said writer(s) admitted in their interviews that they didn't research the series.

 

 

Yeah, the second Naruto tries to perform a shadow clone is already a red flag let alone the question iruka asks about the moon falling to a bunch of small academy kids like no one would ask a stupid question like that. 


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 11:31 AM

Again no one that is NOT enamored with "Hinata getting what she deserves" would believe that Kishi planned this from the beginning and how he was accumulated his work for that one moment because their is so much wrong with that movie. Naruto's character was destroyed to make his attraction to Hinata believable when AGAIN that could have been done in the manga. And I don't CARE how much Not a romance manga Naruto is, Kishi put in moments romantic like moments between Naruto and Sakura at several points in the story.  And no, that was only a platonic sibling  bond is not an excuse because then why bother with that when he could be drawing how Naruto asks Hinata out on a date, or spending time together when there is not a mission going on? Why can't Naruto and Hinata hang out together or why cant Hinata show her support for Naruto and be his emotional comfort if they were "meant to be a couple?" Like how OTHER ANIME COUPLES are teased at?


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:02 PM

Again no one that is NOT enamored with "Hinata getting what she deserves" would believe that Kishi planned this from the beginning and how he was accumulated his work for that one moment because their is so much wrong with that movie. Naruto's character was destroyed to make his attraction to Hinata believable when AGAIN that could have been done in the manga. And I don't CARE how much Not a romance manga Naruto is, Kishi put in moments romantic like moments between NAruto and Sakura at several points in the story.  And no, that was only a platonic sibling  bond is not an excuse because then why bother with that when he could be drawing how Naruto asks Hinata out on a date, or spending time together when there is not a mission going on? Why can't Naruto and Hinata hang out together or why can;t Hinata show her support for Naruto and be his emotional comfort if they were "meant to be a couple?" Like how OTHER ANIME COUPLES are teased at?

Like I said. If Kishimoto planned all of this with NH....no development, red herring tons of other pairings, a movie, and more...while being unable to figure out how to defeat Madara, unable to figure out how most of the series was going to go, and as such...then Kishimoto is probably the BIGGEST troll ever to exist since Ron L Hubbard.

That would literally be admitting that he purposely did it all to scam people out of more money than you can ever imagine. He is almost as big of Ron L Hubbard...a science fiction writer who created a religion that thousands of people believe just so he can make money tax free.


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:02 PM

It does feel like when the topic of Naruto gets involved he doesn't really have much to speak on like he's distancing himself from it as much as possible after the way everything went down. Especially right now when considering it's 20th anniversary since it debuted and ofcourse 5 years since it ended. 

 

 

I've atleast noticed from the yomiuri interview back in May that he had given himself a lot of reflection on what happened to the naruto series, and that he recognizes that he gave a supporting character (Sasuke) more focus in the story over Naruto, and that's a mistake he's correcting with the current series he's writing (right now it's great, but time will tell come the ending of the series). Unlike in Naruto where he only had the first 8 chapters planned, he wants little inklings of set up for the future in regarding Samurai 8 to it's very ending. 

 

 

Now I'm taking that with a massive grain of salt after what happened to Naruto, but if he does truly stick by his word with Samurai 8 does that make up for what happened to Naruto? No of course it doesn't, but I'll give him credit where it's due depending on the ending phase is treated.  


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:59 PM

Wow I didn't realize that Naruto Explained made a Part 2 discussion to What if Naruto married Sakura 

 

 

 

I got to say it was a pretty damn good video! 

 

 

p.s. there's no bashing of Sakura or NaruSaku as a whole incase anyone's worried! 


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:16 PM

It does feel like when the topic of Naruto gets involved he doesn't really have much to speak on like he's distancing himself from it as much as possible after the way everything went down. Especially right now when considering it's 20th anniversary since it debuted and ofcourse 5 years since it ended. 

 

I've atleast noticed from the yomiuri interview back in May that he had given himself a lot of reflection on what happened to the naruto series, and that he recognizes that he gave a supporting character (Sasuke) more focus in the story over Naruto, and that's a mistake he's correcting with the current series he's writing (right now it's great, but time will tell come the ending of the series). Unlike in Naruto where he only had the first 8 chapters planned, he wants little inklings of set up for the future in regarding Samurai 8 to it's very ending. 

 

Now I'm taking that with a massive grain of salt after what happened to Naruto, but if he does truly stick by his word with Samurai 8 does that make up for what happened to Naruto? No of course it doesn't, but I'll give him credit where it's due depending on the ending phase is treated.  

The overall impression I have of Kishimoto is at the ending he just wanted to take a break from Naruto and spend time with his family. If they needed him to come back and do something for Naruto; he would've been fine with it. Since, it would ultimately be for the fans that supported him all those years.

 

Then, the backlashed happened. Which led him to -for about a year- really hating the end pairings; for many reasons.

 

Now a days, he is just done with Naruto. He wants to move on and work on his next manga. He has not completely abandon his old assistant, he'll still draw some stuff he required to, but that's about it. He is the mangaka of Samurai 8; please don't talk to him about Naruto or Boruto if you can.


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Posted 22 September 2019 - 12:46 AM

https://comicbook.co...new-attraction/ apparently naruto is getting a theme park ride

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