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#81 db84x

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 07:19 AM

@ Nar123

But thank for you example, most of anime pairing war now avoid cultural issue.



#82 Advaith

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 09:12 AM

@ Nar123

But thank for you example, most of anime pairing war now avoid cultural issue.

I remember u from mangafox

 

Pls leave this site alone,u people already have ur victory.Go to MF or elsewhere 



#83 Nar123

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:38 AM

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But thank for you example, most of anime pairing war now avoid cultural issue.


I didn't really understood what you wanted to say here...

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#84 db84x

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:39 AM

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Your total defeat show whole anime fandom that insulting Japan culture is really bad thing for pairing war.

 

@ Advaith

Why you so angry when I show to NS community that you constant insult to Japan culture made our win so easy ?

 

Actually NS fan-art and fan-fiction can became game changer but ...


Edited by db84x, 17 February 2016 - 11:40 AM.


#85 Advaith

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:52 AM

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Your total defeat show whole anime fandom that insulting Japan culture is really bad thing for pairing war.

 

@ Advaith

Why you so angry when I show to NS community that you constant insult to Japan culture made our win so easy ?

 

Actually NS fan-art and fan-fiction can became game changer but ...

Look if i want i can say many things to you but i realized that it's no use

 

i am not angry at u,all i say is practically everything u want have has been achieved.UR fandoms can react,make fun of,mock,be angry at us or anything but pls do in ur space.PLS Consider this a request from me 

 

We don't want to know anything related to naruto anymore,u guys won,we lost.NH is canon i accept it but don't continue it anymore here.Let people here live in peace and cope with our loss in our own ways.We don't need help from u to understand what happened,everybody knows what happened,even u.

 

So i again request u to not bother us anymore.We don't want to hear about what betrayed and destroyed us especially NH.


Edited by Advaith, 17 February 2016 - 11:56 AM.


#86 Nar123

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 12:02 PM

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Your total defeat show whole anime fandom that insulting Japan culture is really bad thing for pairing war.
 


lol, NS in general never insulted japanese culture while the manga was running

And if someone from the fandom did it later on after the series ended, it was by comparing it to Kishimoto's lackluster writing of female characters

If anything, NS lucked out in not being part of the crappiest ending ever made

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#87 EmperorZeo

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 02:14 PM

Mizore Shirayuki with Tsukune Aono in Rosario + Vampire? lol

If so, at least Mizore actually became strong and doesn't take crap from others. Basically, she's not a doormat.


Actually I was thinking of this chick.
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She was really into some prince. I'm sure things turned out fine for her.

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 03:50 AM

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How about saying otaku community creepy, Japanese men love meek women, Yamato Nadeshiko concept is flawed and etc.  It bring more harm than benefit to NS artist and fan-fiction creator who still fight in deviant art or fanfiction.net, they still fight will you only moaning.

 

@ Advaith

Can you use your extra energy to help NS artis who still fight out there ?



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:09 AM

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All of that is right, with the exception of Yamato nadeshiko which is more or less an opinion.
We don't care.

#90 Advaith

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:23 AM

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How about saying otaku community creepy, Japanese men love meek women, Yamato Nadeshiko concept is flawed and etc.  It bring more harm than benefit to NS artist and fan-fiction creator who still fight in deviant art or fanfiction.net, they still fight will you only moaning.

 

@ Advaith

Can you use your extra energy to help NS artis who still fight out there ?

I'm not an artist,I support them with my mind and my heart.I exited from every forum(except here),Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn,even youtube.I exited from everywhere on Nov 5th 2014(the day the naruto ending was revealed) coz of reasons but I visit NS ART on deviantart,tumblr and other places for seeing ns art and ns supporters posts.

 

I can't be of much help to them.


Edited by Advaith, 18 February 2016 - 11:26 AM.


#91 Nar123

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:55 AM

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How about saying otaku community
creepy


You know otaku is a negative term in Japan don't you? Being an otaku is a bad thing there

Japanese men love meek women


Is this any kind of insult? Old style japanese culture values women that are meek and "know their place" in the household

Many times it seems Kishi is a follower of these old customs compared to other progressive manga artists

Yamato Nadeshiko concept is flawed and etc.


Only if it is poorly done, like with Hinata


 It bring more harm than benefit to NS artist and fan-fiction creator who still fight in deviant art or fanfiction.net, they still fight will you only moaning.


So criticism and stating obvious flaws in something brings harm?

Wake up, not everyone is going to bow down to such horribly executed ending and final arcs

If you can't handle criticism against Naruto I don't even know why you are here. I also don't get how valid criticism can be considered a bad thing in any shape or form

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#92 Bail o' Lies

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 01:58 PM

He is here because he thinks or at least thought that. Since his pairing "won" he in the right with what ever he thinks. So he came here hoping to gloat and feel smart about himself. Instead he gets decent argument and debates(by the standards of the internet) that he can't really defeat with his simple comebacks and platitudes of "Haha we won you lost. You're just bitter salty clingers. Get over the ending. Haha."

 

I already did two post answering the otaku misunderstanding:

 

"Me:You're thinking of otaku is that of what western fans have turned that term into. ie the Japanese word for nerd and geeks. What it really means is basically pathetic loser that are a drain upon society. And in a country and a culture that believes putting society's interest entirely before a single person. That's a bad thing.
 
Also if you start using character in anime that proudly proclaim they are otaku as an example that not the case. One that an attempt to please the otkaus so they purchase the stories products. Two they still write them as complete weridos and losers they just use it as an attempt at humor through the otaku's oddities or they should be proud because of their uniqueness. Three some writer may also be otakus so of course they try to make them look better and better perceived in their stories then they are actually in real life.
 
Niky:You think 'Otaku' = Passionate about manga, anime and Japan...
But this is a wrong translation of the Japanese word made from the American side.  The japanese word doesn't mean it.
 
The otakus are NOT just nerds or enthusiasts....
They are more like addicted to drugs. They have no life apart their interests.
What is worse they often merge what they actually saw in manga with real life, with all the drifts which this creates.
 
Me:Really there is two reasons for this misunderstanding of the word otaku. A differences in culture in Japan & the US, and US anime fans attempt to sound more sophisticated by calling themselves a foreign word they don't understand.
 
In the US it basically a geeks vs jocks problem both have good and bad points. Geeks are week but smart but are mostly stereotyped as spineless leading them to being bullied. While Jocks are Strong but dumb and are stereotyped as the bullies. Both have their supporters who believe that one or the other is a fine way to live while disparaging the other. But both are accepted in society in their own way in the US and the west. In Japan their a more work focus culture. Working people are a benefit and are improving and maintain society. While non working (such as otakus) people are a drain on society and are leading to it's degradation. And since Japan has a society over an individual person mindset other then in manga anime and light novels most things support the workers (as far as i understand) unanimously. So the US is fine with geeks, while Japan considers them a waste of space if they are not working.
 
Also people would watch the sub version of anime didn't understand what otaku meant. All they saw were people they saw as nerds being called otaku, and figured that must be the Japanese word for geeks and nerd. Not knowing of the negative connotation that is actually associated with the word. So they proudly started calling themselves otakus to represent their love of anime and japanese culture, while not understand what the word actually meant. Making them look like idiots."

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 18 February 2016 - 02:00 PM.


#93 Yyubie

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 03:47 PM

I remember u from mangafox

 

Pls leave this site alone,u people already have ur victory.Go to MF or elsewhere 

He got 2 protection:

 

First most of member here think the forum is now become too boring, so they need some fire going :sweat:

 

Secondly he said it himself he got approval from one of the moderator here. So that means he is invulnerable to ban hammer.

 

If you look closely the first time hes here up until now, you realize that at first he is still a bit polite and respectful ... he still considering using sheep costume. As time pass by he became even more bolder because he got that 2 protection, the fan who got bored keep feeding him, so he get attention, he must be feel happy. I bet even his own forum is now empty and boring that's why he migrate here. He feels this forum is even more entertaining for him.

 

It's useless to tell him to leave, i was like you before, but nobody support me. To me that is a sign, maybe about 85% member here wants him to stay here, because more debate more fun. All you can do is just put him ignore list so you won't see his post forever.


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Posted 19 February 2016 - 11:08 AM

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Do you mad your suicide style abandoned by recent anime/manga pairing war participant ?



#95 Nar123

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 11:47 AM

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Do you mad your suicide style abandoned by recent anime/manga pairing war participant ?


Didn't even bothered to make a cohesive reply against my arguments, instead made one with the troll like question "are you mad?"

It seems like you've shown your true face at least, kid

Now get lost, you won't find validation for your insecurity regarding your fragile pairing here :^)

Edited by Nar123, 19 February 2016 - 11:48 AM.

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 07:50 AM

@ Nar123

Why you so eager burning bridge with NS fandom ? Why you never thought about NS who still fight with their fan-art and fan-fiction ?

 

@ Bail o' Lies

If you still can made coherent statement, why you not helping proofreading NS fan-fiction or help them got more view in fanfiction.net by made got review or at least give them click ?

 

Pairing war can be fun as long as it only art realm, honestly in art realm NS still have a lot of potential. 

 

@ Yyubie

Why you so angry when I show you why NS purge from Naruto fandom goes smoothly according Kishi wish ?


Edited by db84x, 20 February 2016 - 08:10 AM.


#97 Hanabi

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 10:00 AM

Didn't even bothered to make a cohesive reply against my arguments, instead made one with the troll like question "are you mad?"

It seems like you've shown your true face at least, kid

Now get lost, you won't find validation for your insecurity regarding your fragile pairing here :^)

he's lesser than a troll, he's a freak.

 

don't bother with him.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 10:32 PM

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Why you so eager burning bridge with NS fandom ? Why you never thought about NS who still fight with their fan-art and fan-fiction ?
 

That bridge was already burned since a long time ago

Fight? What is there left to fight for?

Fanart and fanfiction aren't there to "fight" btw


he's lesser than a troll, he's a freak.
 
don't bother with him.


Yeah, I noticed that

This is my last answer to him here

His "arguments" just aren't worth enough to give a proper answer to

Edited by Nar123, 20 February 2016 - 10:34 PM.

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#99 db84x

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 12:30 PM

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I just show way to divert your extra energy into more productive one than destructive one.

 

@ Nar123

Fan-fiction and fan-art is way compete in pairing war without spill toxic and split fandom when ending came. 



#100 Hanabi

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 03:00 PM

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He is here because he thinks or at least thought that. Since his pairing "won" he in the right with what ever he thinks. So he came here hoping to gloat and feel smart about himself. Instead he gets decent argument and debates(by the standards of the internet) that he can't really defeat with his simple comebacks and platitudes of "Haha we won you lost. You're just bitter salty clingers. Get over the ending. Haha."

the ironic thing is that he is the one being salty here.. funny how there's still people like him who can't let it go.


Edited by Hanabi, 21 February 2016 - 04:06 PM.

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