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#18361 lupina

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 05:16 PM

 

Im deutschen Forum wird gesagt, sollte man verzichten, weil NaruSaku Kishimoto ist ein NH-Fan. 
 
NH-Fans neigen dazu, das erste Bild von Hinata als Naruto ist in den Hintergrund. 
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Haha, von dem Forum komm ich auch.

NH Fans halt. Die sehen immer nur das was sie sehen wollen. War schon immer so und wird auch immer so bleiben. 

Ich freu mich schon so richtig auf den Tag an dem NS canon wird und dort der kitten losbricht. 

 

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Hehe, I came from this forum too. 

Yeah, NH Fans. Only see what they want to see. Like always. 

I can't wait for the day NS becomes canon and the kittensotrm starts on animexx. 


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 05:36 PM

I'm on a random forum when I bump into this

"most my friends are NaruSaku fans and all of them saying that this means that maybe SasuSaku will become cannon."

 

Do someone care to explain me how's that? How that chapter was good for Sasusaku? I'm just bothered because this isn't the first time I see this kind of thought, am I reading NARUTO wrong? 

 

 

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Aw, what kind of reaction was that? :( 



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 05:47 PM

I'm on a random forum when I bump into this

"most my friends are NaruSaku fans and all of them saying that this means that maybe SasuSaku will become cannon."
 
Do someone care to explain me how's that? How that chapter was good for Sasusaku? I'm just bothered because this isn't the first time I see this kind of thought, am I reading NARUTO wrong? 
 

Nope. You are reading the same manga that we do and it really is the way how you are thinking. Don't be bothered by the SS fandom. They just can't take the blow. The context is what we think it means. But you know 'Ignorance is bliss'. 'No' is the answer to your question and 'Ignorance is bliss' is the solution to the part above the question :)

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:36 PM

Aw, what kind of reaction was that? :(


No reason, just I didn't expect to read that today.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:33 PM


 


"most my friends are NaruSaku fans and all of them saying that this means that maybe SasuSaku will become cannon."

 

Do someone care to explain me how's that? How that chapter was good for Sasusaku? I'm just bothered because this isn't the first time I see this kind of thought, am I reading NARUTO wrong? 

 

 

Aw, what kind of reaction was that? :( 

 

 

 

 

 

They assume that Kakashis sentence "your feelings for Sasuke have changed" means that her feelings for Sasuke changed from a childish crush into love, what it complete bullsh**. 


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 12:00 AM

 

They assume that Kakashis sentence "your feelings for Sasuke have changed" means that her feelings for Sasuke changed from a childish crush into love, what it complete bullsh**. 

 

 

This also going against the fact that just before this chapter came out, they claimed she was already supposedly in love with Sasuke since part 1. Funny how tunes change when they are proven wrong.


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 12:22 AM

One word like you said James" hypocrisy".
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Posted 12 May 2014 - 12:45 AM

 

This also going against the fact that just before this chapter came out, they claimed she was already supposedly in love with Sasuke since part 1. Funny how tunes change when they are proven wrong.

 

It also completely ignores the entirety of Part II. How can one logically assume that Sakura has fallen deeper in love with Sasuke after the murder attempts, him joining Akatsuki and putting Naruto in danger, her reaction to the "great guy" comment, her fake smile to Sai, and her general unease in Sasuke's presence? Not to mention all of her interaction with Naruto/her budding feelings for him. 


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 01:12 AM

 

It also completely ignores the entirety of Part II. How can one logically assume that Sakura has fallen deeper in love with Sasuke after the murder attempts, him joining Akatsuki and putting Naruto in danger, her reaction to the "great guy" comment, her fake smile to Sai, and her general unease in Sasuke's presence? Not to mention all of her interaction with Naruto/her budding feelings for him. 

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 01:14 AM

It also completely ignores the entirety of Part II. How can one logically assume that Sakura has fallen deeper in love with Sasuke after the murder attempts, him joining Akatsuki and putting Naruto in danger, her reaction to the "great guy" comment, her fake smile to Sai, and her general unease in Sasuke's presence? Not to mention all of her interaction with Naruto/her budding feelings for him.

I think what bother me is that to many fans, her reaction to the "great guy"comment was proof that she loves him still.

....well...that's what they see anyway.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 01:20 AM

I think what bother me is that to many fans, her reaction to the "great guy"comment was proof that she loves him still.

....well...that's what they see anyway.

 

Well either way, I'm fairly certain it was a way for Kishi to demonstrate how her feelings towards Sasuke (no matter what they may be) have a negative impact on her.

 

I mean, Kishi could have confirmed Sakura's feelings without having her look all sad and depressed, but he didn't. Writers do things like that a reason!


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 02:35 AM

I wonder how SS fand will "explain" Sakuras changed feelings towards Sasuke after claiming for half a decade that they haven't changed since part one.

Any "theories" out yet? I'm in the mood to debate :P


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 02:38 AM

I think what bother me is that to many fans, her reaction to the "great guy"comment was proof that she loves him still.

....well...that's what they see anyway.


My problem with how its viewed is that its is that in a situation where Sakura views Sasuke at an all time low and Naruto at an all time high between the two of them she still apparently prefers the Sauce despite Kishi saying that the confession was honest.

Which is why I believe that people are misinterpreting it like they did with the confession it wouldn't surprise me.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 05:00 AM

Hey how many of you think that the next chapter will reveal Sasuke's motive of becoming hokage? And if so would SS take this as "their" moment as well because Sakura has of yet learned the truth of Itachi and may see more to Sasuke's side of things?? Reason why I ask cause at the end of last chapter Kishi put out Sasuke's mysterious motive again into the story and the way he played it out seemed to foreshadow it to being revealed really soon either next chapter or 677...

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 05:14 AM

I really don't understand how SS fans believe that was plus for their ship. As many of you said, it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever for her love to "get deeper and so much more mature" when all I've been seeing the whole of Part 2 how negative SasuSaku is. Sakura has barely interacted with Sasuke ever since he left. Sakura herself even he's so much distant than ever and all he does is break her heart. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. What puts that down even more is in that same situation where she said Sasuke's distant NS was shown positively and that Naruto made her feel safe. Always there for her, encouraging her, etc.

 

What really sold it  is that Kakashi actually spoke positively about Sakura's devotion for Sasuke by saying "You're a kind girl" for still wanting to save him. This would be the first time SS would ever be spoken positively and the only way that would happen is if Kakashi meant platonic friendship similar to Naruto's goal w/ Sasuke; SS's pattern in romance is always negative. This wouldn't break the pattern.

 

Honestly, SS fans ... I still can't get over how some are actually cheering for 675 when their ship just died. They don't even know how much that's going to come back and bite them. -_-


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 01:02 PM

I really don't understand how SS fans believe that was plus for their ship. As many of you said, it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever for her love to "get deeper and so much more mature" when all I've been seeing the whole of Part 2 how negative SasuSaku is. Sakura has barely interacted with Sasuke ever since he left. Sakura herself even he's so much distant than ever and all he does is break her heart. THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. What puts that down even more is in that same situation where she said Sasuke's distant NS was shown positively and that Naruto made her feel safe. Always there for her, encouraging her, etc.

 

What really sold it  is that Kakashi actually spoke positively about Sakura's devotion for Sasuke by saying "You're a kind girl" for still wanting to save him. This would be the first time SS would ever be spoken positively and the only way that would happen is if Kakashi meant platonic friendship similar to Naruto's goal w/ Sasuke; SS's pattern in romance is always negative. This wouldn't break the pattern.

 

Honestly, SS fans ... I still can't get over how some are actually cheering for 675 when their ship just died. They don't even know how much that's going to come back and bite them. -_-

Its because they are desperate for a moment they didn't had a positive moment since P1 so they will take anything they can and twist it so it can suits their needs to convince themselves that SS is gonna be canon despite being DEAD for a very very long time , they have what i call self insert delusion .

 

I think what bother me is that to many fans, her reaction to the "great guy"comment was proof that she loves him still.

....well...that's what they see anyway.

 

As for 540 i've said this a couple of times what the nin said " if its somebody that you like , then they are bound to be a great person"  which means not everybody that Sakura likes/liked are a "great" person and she's sad by the fact that she ever had feelings for guy a like him this imo in no way did it confirmed Sasuke as the only guy she loves/loved or that she prefers Sasuke over Naruto it only confirmed that once upon a time she had feelings for him which we already knew that  .

 

Also again " if its somebody that you like , then they are bound to be a great person " this also established that Sasuke is not the one she really likes/loves but the great person that is in her life and we all know who that is NARUTO . 540 is also what is know as Red hearing - its a clue that is meant/intended to be misleading or distracting .  


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 01:14 PM

Its because they are desperate for a moment they didn't had a positive moment since P1 so they will take anything they can and twist it so it can suits their needs to convince themselves that SS is gonna be canon despite being DEAD for a very very long time , they have what i call self insert delusion .
 

 
As for 540 i've said this a couple of times what the nin said " if its somebody that you like , then they are bound to be a great person"  which means not everybody that Sakura likes/liked are a "great" person and she's sad by the fact that she ever had feelings for guy a like him this imo in no way did it confirmed Sasuke as the only guy she loves/loved or that she prefers Sasuke over Naruto it only confirmed that once upon a time she had feelings for him which we already knew that  .
 
Also again " if its somebody that you like , then they are bound to be a great person " this also established that Sasuke is not the one she really likes/loves but the great person that is in her life and we all know who that is NARUTO . 540 is also what is know as Red hearing - its a clue that is meant/intended to be misleading or distracting .

I ran out of likes again! D:

Anyway I liked this...I liked this a lot.

I have tried to explain the whole idea behind a red herring, seeing that the this seems to only hint that she is just now realizing, or maybe she realized it earlier, either way, we see her looking said when thinking of Sasuke.

To me, I have no idea how that scene can be taken as good thing for SS, it has, and always will, look anti-sasusaku to me.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 02:26 PM

Its because they are desperate for a moment they didn't had a positive moment since P1 so they will take anything they can and twist it so it can suits their needs to convince themselves that SS is gonna be canon despite being DEAD for a very very long time , they have what i call self insert delusion .
 
 
As for 540 i've said this a couple of times what the nin said " if its somebody that you like , then they are bound to be a great person"  which means not everybody that Sakura likes/liked are a "great" person and she's sad by the fact that she ever had feelings for guy a like him this imo in no way did it confirmed Sasuke as the only guy she loves/loved or that she prefers Sasuke over Naruto it only confirmed that once upon a time she had feelings for him which we already knew that  .
 
Also again " if its somebody that you like , then they are bound to be a great person " this also established that Sasuke is not the one she really likes/loves but the great person that is in her life and we all know who that is NARUTO . 540 is also what is know as Red hearing - its a clue that is meant/intended to be misleading or distracting .  

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 03:43 PM

I ran out of likes again! D:

Anyway I liked this...I liked this a lot.

I have tried to explain the whole idea behind a red herring, seeing that the this seems to only hint that she is just now realizing, or maybe she realized it earlier, either way, we see her looking said when thinking of Sasuke.

To me, I have no idea how that scene can be taken as good thing for SS, it has, and always will, look anti-sasusaku to me.

I know what you mean , and thanks i'm just glad that i was of some assistance to you XD

 

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 04:43 PM

I know what you mean , and thanks i'm just glad that i was of some assistance to you XD
 
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