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#18361 Nefertieh

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 07:18 AM

God damn Kishi, give her something else to say. Seriously you made Part 1 Hinata had potinetial with goals she could've/should've accomplished. Instead you just had her spewing Naruto Kun throughout most of Part 2. I kinda feel bad for saying that Hinata was one of my favorite characters. Actually I take that back, Hinata from Part 1 was one of my favorite characters, but Hinata in Part 2 sucked. 

 

Give a woman another goal in life other than the affections of a man? Now that's just crazy talk!

 

Hinata went relatively unscathed compared to Uzumaki "I will use girls to further my rivalry" Naruto and Haruno "Perpetual fangirl" Sakura.


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 07:25 AM

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God damn Kishi, give her something else to say. Seriously you made Part 1 Hinata had potinetial with goals she could've/should've accomplished. Instead you just had her spewing Naruto Kun throughout most of Part 2. I kinda feel bad for saying that Hinata was one of my favorite characters. Actually I take that back, Hinata from Part 1 was one of my favorite characters, but Hinata in Part 2 sucked. 


Right on!! Hinata was reduced to pairing fodder in Shippuden when she was actually sympathetic character in Part 1. I despise what Kikitten did to her.

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 07:35 AM

 

Right on!! Hinata was reduced to pairing fodder in Shippuden when she was actually sympathetic character in Part 1. I despise what Kikitten did to her.

 

She was pairing fodder from the moment she showed up. She literally had no personality outside of Naruto-kun
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Posted 10 December 2014 - 08:18 AM

 

WTH is this? A novel? I haven't been on much in the last few days...but now this? I swear everytime I think it's over and it can't get any worse...it does.

 

At the risk of repeating the post, WTF, a novel?! Why oh why do we have to suffer so much crap? No, come on! How much is Kishi going to milk this? Did no one tell him the movie is failing and that every fan with half a brain is very disappointed?



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Posted 10 December 2014 - 09:25 AM

You know, we say that Sakura, Hinata, and etc got butchered, and yes it is true, but I think Naruto probably got reworked the most. I mean, his entire life got changed in this movie.

1. Naruto's personality change
-Apparently he lied about his feelings the whole time

-He is no longer a hyper-active person. Yes we mature, but we never lose the better parts of our personality like that
-He is more selfish, jealous, and envious now.
-He easily gives up. When Hinata apparently fell in love with Toneri, he gave up thinking he could never have her and it took everyone else to tell him to go after her. This is to the contrary where no matter how many people told him to give up on Sasuke, he never wanted to or did.
-He no longer cares about other people...except for Hinata. Which is weird.
-He has gotten dumber, not smarter throughout the years.
-Used to treat Sasuke with the highest respect, now doesn't even bother. Sasuke who?
-Apparently clueless to what love really is...even though he promoted it constantly and always believed in that love

2. Naruto's past
-In the manga, grew up alone and said Sasuke was the first and only best friend he had. Now apparently Hinata was always there...so why was he "alone?" This is even more evident when, during the fight with Gaara, he tells him that he knows what it was like to be alone and treated as a monster.
-Met Hinata before anyone else, but never remembers her throughout the manga until sometime later
-Knew Shadow clones before he actually learned Shadow Clones. It was the only reason he failed the exams.
-Naruto and Sasuke were said to be the Sun and Moon respectfully...now apparently Hinata is the "moon"
-Naruto's journeys in the manga were all about either Hinata or a jealously rant.

Weird questions
-Since when did Hinata have this power and why the hell didn't Kaguya wanted it? If Toneri knew, then certainly Kaguya would know. Why Hinata at all? Apparently she is a descendant of a bloodline, but Hanabi apparently wasn't the descendant? Why not any other Hyuuga?
-Isn't Kaguya sealed in the moon? So why would blasting to the earth be the "solution?"
-Where was Toneri during the Kaguya incident? If his clan was in charge of sealing her, shouldn't he have shown up to help fight Kaguya and not Hagoromo?
-If Naruto was apparently always in love with Hinata...why wait so long to tell her? Why the awkward confession too with a manipulation of word play to confess?
-Why the hell was Hinata picked on as a child? She was from a renown family and a proud clan. How could anyone pick on her and how come no other Hyuuga got picked on for it either. That is probably the weirdest sentiment.

The more and more I think of it...the less and less this movie actually follows the manga.


Edited by James S Cassidy, 10 December 2014 - 11:02 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 09:45 AM

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new translations, it's the novelization of gif related.

“Ah, Hinata!”

“Sakura-chan!”

The two girls met in the middle of the shopping district.


“Red yarn… are you knitting something? That’s unusual!”

“……..I’m knitting a scarf.”

“Hmmmm….”

A shopping district banner with “Rinne Festival” written in large characters entered Sakura’s line of vision.

Instantly, Sakura completed the math in her head:

Hinata + Rinne Festival + hand-knit scarf = a present for Naruto!

The shy Hinata was finally going to make her move on Naruto.

“Go for it!”

“Eh?”

“You’re going to give it to him as a present, right?”

“…………”

Without answering, Hinata turned red all the way up to her ears, and looked downward. Sakura liked Hinata’s diligence and sincerity. She didn’t want to see Hinata cry. Sakura supported her friend’s romance.


Edited by Don'tMindME, 10 December 2014 - 09:46 AM.


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 09:52 AM

This movie is really kittening weird.

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 09:58 AM

This movie really is a big retcon sprinkled with some passable animation

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 12:55 PM

do you will leave this forum too, chatte?


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 12:57 PM

do you will leave this forum too, chatte?

I think you meant to ask me on the other thread, haha, but no, I am not leaving the forum. :)


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 01:08 PM

what the kitten. my firefox kinda gives troubles me in these days.


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 01:36 PM

Translated from The Last novel version by Takl:
 
Naruto was lost in admiration of Hinata's profile. He felt an urge to run his fingers over her beautiful outline. Then Hinata suddenly turned around. Naruto quickly looked away. "eh...Narutokun...what about that scarf?" "ah that one...cos the underground is warm...i got rid of it ttebayo" "is...is that so..." Actually its rather chilly. You can see his breath.  "Cos you are dressing like this (lightly), you are cold." Naruto glanced at Hinata's bare upper arms. The skin is fair and clear. "........" "Please don't stare... this is a mission gear so... I can't choose..." Hinata hiding her naked arms and lowering her eyes with a blush on her cheeks made Naruto's heart twinge.  "something, anything will do...I oughta say something now! I must say something(cool)!"[/size]
 
:sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size]  :sick:[/size] [/size]
 
Is this Naruto or a bad erotic novel?

Ok so they can't outright say he's admiring her breasts cause that would be SEXIST against her character and we all know she has more depth to her than that (sarcasm). So it's that way then? Hinata is a geisha that always covered her arms and wrists and now that Naruto-kun gets a peek he's hooked? Lmao so Sakura showed off all that arm and Naruto knew what he was getting with her .... Haha let's not forget Ino she shows a lot of arm too I guess they're both just sluts that showed too much skin from the get go!
Seriously though, reading just these excerpts has lowered my IQ ...
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Posted 10 December 2014 - 02:02 PM

At this point it's time to rally the troops and rebuild the kingdom on our terms boys and girls.

 

 

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 02:43 PM

You know, we say that Sakura, Hinata, and etc got butchered, and yes it is true, but I think Naruto probably got reworked the most. I mean, his entire life got changed in this movie.

1. Naruto's personality change
-Apparently he lied about his feelings the whole time

-He is no longer a hyper-active person. Yes we mature, but we never lose the better parts of our personality like that
-He is more selfish, jealous, and envious now.
-He easily gives up. When Hinata apparently fell in love with Toneri, he gave up thinking he could never have her and it took everyone else to tell him to go after her. This is to the contrary where no matter how many people told him to give up on Sasuke, he never wanted to or did.
-He no longer cares about other people...except for Hinata. Which is weird.
-He has gotten dumber, not smarter throughout the years.
-Used to treat Sasuke with the highest respect, now doesn't even bother. Sasuke who?
-Apparently clueless to what love really is...even though he promoted it constantly and always believed in that love

2. Naruto's past
-In the manga, grew up alone and said Sasuke was the first and only best friend he had. Now apparently Hinata was always there...so why was he "alone?" This is even more evident when, during the fight with Gaara, he tells him that he knows what it was like to be alone and treated as a monster.
-Met Hinata before anyone else, but never remembers her throughout the manga until sometime later
-Knew Shadow clones before he actually learned Shadow Clones. It was the only reason he failed the exams.
-Naruto and Sasuke were said to be the Sun and Moon respectfully...now apparently Hinata is the "moon"
-Naruto's journeys in the manga were all about either Hinata or a jealously rant.

Weird questions
-Since when did Hinata have this power and why the hell didn't Kaguya wanted it? If Toneri knew, then certainly Kaguya would know. Why Hinata at all? Apparently she is a descendant of a bloodline, but Hanabi apparently wasn't the descendant? Why not any other Hyuuga?
-Isn't Kaguya sealed in the moon? So why would blasting to the earth be the "solution?"
-Where was Toneri during the Kaguya incident? If his clan was in charge of sealing her, shouldn't he have shown up to help fight Kaguya and not Hagoromo?
-If Naruto was apparently always in love with Hinata...why wait so long to tell her? Why the awkward confession too with a manipulation of word play to confess?
-Why the hell was Hinata picked on as a child? She was from a renown family and a proud clan. How could anyone pick on her and how come no other Hyuuga got picked on for it either. That is probably the weirdest sentiment.

The more and more I think of it...the less and less this movie actually follows the manga.

THIS, THIS THIS

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 03:33 PM

You know, we say that Sakura, Hinata, and etc got butchered, and yes it is true, but I think Naruto probably got reworked the most. I mean, his entire life got changed in this movie.

1. Naruto's personality change
-Apparently he lied about his feelings the whole time

-He is no longer a hyper-active person. Yes we mature, but we never lose the better parts of our personality like that
-He is more selfish, jealous, and envious now.
-He easily gives up. When Hinata apparently fell in love with Toneri, he gave up thinking he could never have her and it took everyone else to tell him to go after her. This is to the contrary where no matter how many people told him to give up on Sasuke, he never wanted to or did.
-He no longer cares about other people...except for Hinata. Which is weird.
-He has gotten dumber, not smarter throughout the years.
-Used to treat Sasuke with the highest respect, now doesn't even bother. Sasuke who?
-Apparently clueless to what love really is...even though he promoted it constantly and always believed in that love

2. Naruto's past
-In the manga, grew up alone and said Sasuke was the first and only best friend he had. Now apparently Hinata was always there...so why was he "alone?" This is even more evident when, during the fight with Gaara, he tells him that he knows what it was like to be alone and treated as a monster.
-Met Hinata before anyone else, but never remembers her throughout the manga until sometime later
-Knew Shadow clones before he actually learned Shadow Clones. It was the only reason he failed the exams.
-Naruto and Sasuke were said to be the Sun and Moon respectfully...now apparently Hinata is the "moon"
-Naruto's journeys in the manga were all about either Hinata or a jealously rant.

Weird questions
-Since when did Hinata have this power and why the hell didn't Kaguya wanted it? If Toneri knew, then certainly Kaguya would know. Why Hinata at all? Apparently she is a descendant of a bloodline, but Hanabi apparently wasn't the descendant? Why not any other Hyuuga?
-Isn't Kaguya sealed in the moon? So why would blasting to the earth be the "solution?"
-Where was Toneri during the Kaguya incident? If his clan was in charge of sealing her, shouldn't he have shown up to help fight Kaguya and not Hagoromo?
-If Naruto was apparently always in love with Hinata...why wait so long to tell her? Why the awkward confession too with a manipulation of word play to confess?
-Why the hell was Hinata picked on as a child? She was from a renown family and a proud clan. How could anyone pick on her and how come no other Hyuuga got picked on for it either. That is probably the weirdest sentiment.

The more and more I think of it...the less and less this movie actually follows the manga.

 

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 03:46 PM

i just went to the yahoo website again (2.88 now).. there were so many negative reviews where i could completely understand :cry:  google translate is a big help.

 

 

 

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new translations, it's the novelization of gif related.

“Ah, Hinata!”

“Sakura-chan!”

The two girls met in the middle of the shopping district.


“Red yarn… are you knitting something? That’s unusual!”

“……..I’m knitting a scarf.”

“Hmmmm….”

A shopping district banner with “Rinne Festival” written in large characters entered Sakura’s line of vision.

Instantly, Sakura completed the math in her head:

Hinata + Rinne Festival + hand-knit scarf = a present for Naruto!

The shy Hinata was finally going to make her move on Naruto.

“Go for it!”

“Eh?”

“You’re going to give it to him as a present, right?”

“…………”

Without answering, Hinata turned red all the way up to her ears, and looked downward. Sakura liked Hinata’s diligence and sincerity. She didn’t want to see Hinata cry. Sakura supported her friend’s romance.

 

nice animation awful artwork.

 

and it's all about hinata. the princess crying?? no we can't have that. ahh studio pierrot -_-

 

what's a naruto? a fishcake?


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 05:01 PM

You know, we say that Sakura, Hinata, and etc got butchered, and yes it is true, but I think Naruto probably got reworked the most. I mean, his entire life got changed in this movie.

1. Naruto's personality change
-Apparently he lied about his feelings the whole time

-He is no longer a hyper-active person. Yes we mature, but we never lose the better parts of our personality like that
-He is more selfish, jealous, and envious now.
-He easily gives up. When Hinata apparently fell in love with Toneri, he gave up thinking he could never have her and it took everyone else to tell him to go after her. This is to the contrary where no matter how many people told him to give up on Sasuke, he never wanted to or did.
-He no longer cares about other people...except for Hinata. Which is weird.
-He has gotten dumber, not smarter throughout the years.
-Used to treat Sasuke with the highest respect, now doesn't even bother. Sasuke who?
-Apparently clueless to what love really is...even though he promoted it constantly and always believed in that love

2. Naruto's past
-In the manga, grew up alone and said Sasuke was the first and only best friend he had. Now apparently Hinata was always there...so why was he "alone?" This is even more evident when, during the fight with Gaara, he tells him that he knows what it was like to be alone and treated as a monster.
-Met Hinata before anyone else, but never remembers her throughout the manga until sometime later
-Knew Shadow clones before he actually learned Shadow Clones. It was the only reason he failed the exams.
-Naruto and Sasuke were said to be the Sun and Moon respectfully...now apparently Hinata is the "moon"
-Naruto's journeys in the manga were all about either Hinata or a jealously rant.

Weird questions
-Since when did Hinata have this power and why the hell didn't Kaguya wanted it? If Toneri knew, then certainly Kaguya would know. Why Hinata at all? Apparently she is a descendant of a bloodline, but Hanabi apparently wasn't the descendant? Why not any other Hyuuga?
-Isn't Kaguya sealed in the moon? So why would blasting to the earth be the "solution?"
-Where was Toneri during the Kaguya incident? If his clan was in charge of sealing her, shouldn't he have shown up to help fight Kaguya and not Hagoromo?
-If Naruto was apparently always in love with Hinata...why wait so long to tell her? Why the awkward confession too with a manipulation of word play to confess?
-Why the hell was Hinata picked on as a child? She was from a renown family and a proud clan. How could anyone pick on her and how come no other Hyuuga got picked on for it either. That is probably the weirdest sentiment.

The more and more I think of it...the less and less this movie actually follows the manga.

 

Dammit, if I had some likes right now, I would so give you one, James!!! X-D Considering that the anime had the "Hinata got picked on" BS as a means to have her fall for Naruto... this feels so much like retcon city and a bad NH fanfic rolled into one excuse to try to justify the ending when only the most hardcore of shippers from NH and SS would approve of it.



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Posted 10 December 2014 - 05:02 PM

I think you meant to ask me on the other thread, haha, but no, I am not leaving the forum. :)

 

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 05:09 PM

Holy Crap.

Naruto The Last is already on DVD. That was super fast

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 05:11 PM

Holy Crap.

Naruto The Last is already on DVD. That was super fast

The DVD

:lmao: X-D Oh, my dear Lord, that's so accurate I'm gonna lose my kitten laughing so hard!






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