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#6901 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 10:59 AM

Another leap to a panic side, huh.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:00 AM

You mean 70-30, and even 30 seems too generous for NH.

No, I mean 50-50. NS development makes no difference if Kishimoto is intent on pushing the reset button whenever they make progress.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:01 AM

No, I mean 50-50. NS development makes no difference if Kishimoto is intent on pushing the reset button whenever they make progress.

Why would he?



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:02 AM

Another leap to a panic side, huh.

Kind of my fault I guess, otherwise, Ether wouldn't have answered  :sweatdrop:


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:03 AM

I don't. I think it's 50-50, it can go either way.

 
Sigh. I guess my cleansing didn't work. *cleanses the air once again* Step into the light, I say!
 

No, I mean 50-50. NS development makes no difference if Kishimoto is intent on pushing the reset button whenever they make progress.

 
I don't think he pushed the reset button. I see that "confession", if you're so fixed on the idea, as the last expression of "love" Sakura could give to Sasuke. And I believe it's needed for her to move on.


Edited by unhskikrforever, 03 November 2014 - 11:07 AM.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:05 AM

Kind of my fault I guess, otherwise, Ether wouldn't have answered  :sweatdrop:

I'm not panicking. After all, I'm not declaring NH canon beyond a shadow of doubt. The chances are equal for either side though, just saying.

 

 I don't think he pushed the reset button. I see that "confession", if you're so fixed on the idea, as the last expression of "love" Sakura could give to Sasuke. And I believe it's needed for her to move on.

I'd agree, if there were was enough panel time to show this. The time for her to get over him already came and went, she's unrealistically fixated on him.


Edited by Ether, 03 November 2014 - 11:15 AM.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:06 AM

Kind of my fault I guess, otherwise, Ether wouldn't have answered  :sweatdrop:

Nevermind, its your opinion, you are free to say anything you want.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:24 AM

I'd agree, if there were was enough panel time to show this. The time for her to get over him already came and went, she's unrealistically fixated on him.

 

Yeah, but the thing is, she never got to see him before that. Even if she did, it wasn't quite an ideal time for her to confess and get a closure. Kishi might have done that on the chapter to get it over with.


Edited by unhskikrforever, 03 November 2014 - 11:28 AM.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:26 AM

-shakes head- To me, NH is just....crap. It's not because of what it is, but how ridiculous it has become. I continue to play it all in my head and I can't stand it. I can't stand how most Naruto fans thinks it is so good or so amazing because they think Hinata deserves so much. She may be a sweet girl, but she has major problems and it is sickening. This whole concept is sickening and it is even more sickening how many just support it. It's sad how so many just pity Hinata. They pity her so much that they don't expect her to earn anything. They just expect her to gain it all because they feel sorry for her. They know it too, but they don't see it as a bad thing.

I have developed such a hatred for Hinata, but I am not sure why I hate her anymore. Her character alone is not what I hate, but the fact that so many just think she is so perfect when she isn't. How many think she is the greatest girl ever made when she is nothing more than a pretty face and big kittens. She is just practically a moe character that is kind of an air head. Not stupid, she is just...why? Why do people feel she deserves so much when she doesn't do half the things a real person would? When her selfish behavior is praised, but for others it is looked down upon? Why?

It is sickening to think that NH has a chance because of a stupid movie that asspulls so much into it and makes no sense. Is that all this pairing is? Asspulls and nonsense? I can't...no, I won't accept that 700 chapters of Naruto struggling and hurting and loving so much is going to be wasted on a girl who doesn't even seem to appreciate it. Who doesn't even seem to want Naruto to be happy.

It feels almost like Hinata is trying to guilt trip people. "Oh I am so stupid because I am weak and shy. Oh Woe is me. I have this scarf to express my feelings, but I can't do it because woe is me." This is a love story? To feel sorry for this girl who can't even think of anybody, but herself? This is not a happy story. This feel more like a guilt trip to force us to accept Hinata as a pathetic girl and I hate it. I hate it very much. NH fans wants us to see her as this pathetic girl who we should pity and "deserves to be happy cause she had a hard life with her father."  A hard life even she didn't give a crap about. All of a sudden jumping in front of a bullet makes you worthy of love and apparently, we have to change Naruto to suit Hinata's needs?

If this love affair was real, I would say that Naruto was being guilt tripped into being with Hinata with all of Hinata's "friends" just bullying Naruto until he gets with her. "You don't deserve her, Naruto. You're a scumbag if you ignore her." Well, why would you want a supposed scumbag like Naruto be with a "delicate flower" like Hinata anyway? Wouldn't she be happy with a better man?

That's all the feelings I am getting from this "NaruHina" pairing. People feel sorry for Hinata because they believe she has had a hard pathetic life and want her to have Naruto because supposedly he brings her happiness. Because supposedly Naruto has no will of his own and has to be guilt tripped into being with a girl he does not want. God forbid Naruto is too busy to give Hinata anything or give her attention, people might throw a fit. "Naruto, you need to treat Hinata better."

-sigh- I am sorry, I am just venting. I just don't see Hinata truly appreciating Naruto and none of her fans truly appreciate Naruto either.


Edited by James S Cassidy, 03 November 2014 - 11:28 AM.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:31 AM

I don't. I think it's 50-50, it can go either way.

 

It's 50 - 50 !!! with NH interactions in just 4 of 698 chapters ahahahahahaha  :lmao:

 

 

The reason I believe she will regenerate their arms is because:

 

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maybe you are right


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:35 AM

Hey guys I found something so INTERESTING :th_yeah:

 

you might want to see this :D

 

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#6912 abloublou

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:37 AM

Hey guys I found something so INTERESTING :th_yeah:

 

you might want to see this :D

 

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I think it's a legit NH interaction though.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:37 AM

It feels almost like Hinata is trying to guilt trip people. "Oh I am so stupid because I am weak and shy. Oh Woe is me. I have this scarf to express my feelings, but I can't do it because woe is me." This is a love story? To feel sorry for this girl who can't even think of anybody, but herself? This is not a happy story. This feel more like a guilt trip to force us to accept Hinata as a pathetic girl and I hate it. I hate it very much. NH fans wants us to see her as this pathetic girl who we should pity and "deserves to be happy cause she had a hard life with her father."  A hard life even she didn't give a crap about. All of a sudden jumping in front of a bullet makes you worthy of love and apparently, we have to change Naruto to suit Hinata's needs?
 

 

Sorry to cut your post but I honestly LOLed when I read that part. :lmao:

 

Hey guys I found something so INTERESTING :th_yeah:
 
you might want to see this :D

 

 
 
Click the photo so you can read it.. I don't know how to make it bigger :wibble:
 
But please see it :umm:

 

 

Konan-sama had made the same analysis too. I don't have the link to the post though. D:


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:41 AM

I think it's a legit NH interaction though.

 

lol :lol:  I just found it in narusaku facebook fanpage... just want to share here :smile:


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:42 AM

 

Sorry to cut your post but I honestly LOLed when I read that part. :lmao:

 

 

Konan-sama had made the same analysis too. I don't have the link to the post though. D:

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I just saw this on Narusaku fanpage in facebook


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:48 AM

It's 50 - 50 !!! with NH interactions in just 4 of 698 chapters ahahahahahaha  :lmao:

You can thank Sakura for that.

 

@James S Cassidy: What I hate about Hinata is how much of a pity bait Kishimoto & SP keep turning her into. First her sacrificial confession, then her cousin dying while she tries to protect Naruto, then this apparent flashback in the movie where Naruto makes her cry. The more they push this, the worse Naruto is going to look when/if NH doesn't happen.



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:53 AM

You can thank Sakura for that.

 

@James S Cassidy: What I hate about Hinata is how much of a pity bait Kishimoto & SP keep turning her into. First her sacrificial confession, then her cousin dying while she tries to protect Naruto, then this apparent flashback in the movie where Naruto makes her cry. The more they push this, the worse Naruto is going to look when/if NH doesn't happen.

It's harsh of you to hate her because Kishi keeps on toturing her, and not letting anything good ever happen to her.

 

It makes me want to hug her... :umm:

 

But I won't ship her with Naruto as he doesn't treat her right even on a pure platonic level.

 

But you're right that NH puts Naruto in a negative light. His never answering her confession, for example... But as I don't like Naruto that much, it doesn't bother me as I don't have a very positive image of him to begin with, not with part 2.


Edited by abloublou, 03 November 2014 - 12:03 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:55 AM

Hey guys I found something so INTERESTING :th_yeah:

 

you might want to see this :D

 

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even if they are not next to eachother it appears to me that naruto looks at her from the distance...and that look is not a good sign for narusaku



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:57 AM

Really hope that NARUSAKU is canon :nslove: 

 

Well, let's wait for the last chapter and the epliogue this week.. 50% excited and 50% nervous though :unsure:

 

also this picture made my day :love: :yes:

 

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Kushina and Sakura Similarities :D


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#6920 abloublou

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:59 AM

Really hope that NARUSAKU is canon :nslove:

 

Well, let's wait for the last chapter and the epliogue this week.. 50% excited and 50% nervous though :unsure:

 

also this picture made my day :love: :yes:

 

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Kushina and Sakura Similarities :D

Sakura is way prettier though.






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