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[Kster95]

Which translation should l be reading from now on? Mangapanda or Stream? which one is accurate?

MP used to be good, MS recently has been better. MP comes out earlier though.

[Awes9]

OMFG did I see right ? Hinata has a line that isn't "Naruto Kun".

[ultranx]

Which translation should l be reading from now on? Mangapanda or Stream? which one is accurate?

I would suggest mangapanda

[Princess Iris]

 
Well, I guess that's how you see her. She's not like that to me.
 
I don't understand why everyone thinks it's a confession. I've always seen it as her saying she still loves him as a friend and as a person. Love has a lot of meanings. After all Sasuke has done, wouldn't a friend say that he/she still loves him? And it's pretty clear to me she doesn't love Sasuke in a romantic way anymore.

true


693 wasn't a confession


I get pissed of when ppl say this


there is so much difference between a confession & this one

[Elicit]

I'm pretty sure this thread is so kittening entertaining to watch for our lurkers. I'm enjoying it too.

We all love drama.

[ALEX SENJU]

Sorry guys but I don't think kishi is going the digimon route at all..

 

While Sora and Tai eventually did date, from what I;m reading, Sora breaks up with Tai for his bestfriend Matt?

 

What convinces you that Naruto or Sakura would break up with each other after all they've been through?

lol what if kishi goes the suzuka route.

[Raito]

Thanks for the advice's.

 

 

Note: Stop going off topic. 

Edited by Raito, 02 November 2014 - 05:57 AM.

[bthug]

Guys don't even get me started on Digimon. I have been ranting and raving about that for years. Its why I am the way I am with ships, especially NS. 

 

I never recovered from the big FU that was Digimon shipping ending. It was supposed to be Tai and Sora all the freakin way, that played soccer together, they had similar NS moments, Tai cried for her, they hugged, he took hits, he helped her become who she is….the movie even had a huge and I mean huge Taiora subplot which border lined main plot…..but out of nowhere and I'm being objective here, out of nowhere they stick Sora with Tai's best friend Matt. Absolutely ridiculous. 

 

Like I've said i've never recovered, from that, because I invested so much into that. I was a kid and all the signs pointed towards the couple I was rooting for than one saturday morning I get hit with that crap.  

 

Its why NS and this whole thing has me really worried. I have put a lot at stake in NS (I know it sounds lame, but just let me vent) and I always told myself that if NS pulled through I could finally put Taiora behind me. 

[CloudMountainJuror]

I'm pretty sure this thread is so kittening entertaining to watch for our lurkers. I'm enjoying it too.

We all love drama.

 

The chaotic hundreds-of-pages-in-a-few-days threads do tend to be the most fun.

[ultranx]

Thanks for the advice's.

 

 

Note: Stop going off topic. 

sorry xD I was just posting the digimon trailer because I don't think people have noticed digimon is coming back, I'll stop going off topic now, we weren't too off topic though, we were comparing digimon to naruto xD

 

in case anyone missed my comment btw, here: 

 

@darkradeon that might be rectified possibly, did you hear the news? they are making a digimon adventure 03, it comes in 2015, its about taichi in his high school days EDIT: here hold on:

Edited by ultranx, 02 November 2014 - 06:01 AM.

[TsukiChan ♥]

lol what if kishi goes the suzuka route.

 

I just read about Suzuka...they make it seem as though all his girl did was hit him lolll but it almost reminds me of NS..almost, at least the main character got what she wanted

 

But in Naruto? nooope, its what SP wants we should just name the manga "SP" instead of "Naruto"

[narusaku1408]

Hi guys, watch this, Thanks to meekosfreedom   http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read
 

DEAR NS SHIPPERS PLEASE READ.
 

I was really confused about this NH suddenly happening just as all of you, so as a script/literature student for almost a year, and learning all about foreshadowing, character development, and plot treatment, I decided I should talk to someone who knew more than me.
 
I exposed this case (about NH in the last movie) to my professor, who has been a successful screen writer for 27 years, and his answer was.
"Well, if you want to get two characters together, you have to put them through a lot of situations, and make them feel everything, both sides, so you can explain why the bond is so strong. You cant put two characters together which development is so poor, not even if the 3, or 4 moments they have had together are really meaningful. Thats only valid if you are writing a short film cause you dont have a lot of time, but if the story is as long as youre telling me, then you have no excuse. You have had plenty of time to put those character through more moments, and make a successful development. If you really intent to make this two characters end up together, then you should have give them more screen time"
 
the I asked him about the other character (Sakura) what was her case and he answered.
 
" It means he really didnt think it through, and he has wasted years of paper and ink developing this relationship for absolutely nothing. Why would you spend so much time developing a relationship if you really didnt mean it? As a story maker you have to keep in mind that you have to make things clear for the viewers, because if you dont, things like this happen. Its like a new trend in marketing to leave a really open plot so the viewers can make their own conclusions, and watch just cause they want to know if theyre right, and they do this without even consulting the writer. That is called comercial script, and its ruining the industry, darling. But if in the end you tell me this girl who has been with the main character all the time, and its clearly the main female character, is not ending up with him, youre telling me the writer of this story hasnt been able to keep his story in line. He practically took a side character out of nowhere, and created a relationship that through the story was not even foreshadow. Its bad writing"
 
I explain about Hinatas love for Naruto. 
 
"And have the main character acknowledge this love?"
I told him about Pein Arc, and her confession. he asked me to see the pages of the manga, and I showed them to him.
"But then this confession was not mention again. When you write about several characters, you have to give each of them a resolution, or else it will  be unfinished. This girls confessions was sudden, and it was not mention again, so in my experience this is just to help the character get its resolution. If to the main character, or to the main plot this confession is supposed to be a game changer, or something important, then it should have been mention again. I can see the main female is there again, and as you can see, or at least what it seems is that the girl is uncomfortable. Sometimes we have to take side characters to do things like this, so main characters can realise their own truth. And its use really often. You see a lot of movies about someone who doesnt realise he or she is in love with their best friend until the best friend is with someone else. So having this confession, and the only person to acknowledge that moment is the other girl, then the confession is only important to those girls. As i told you before, the side character needs its resolution about those feelings, and the main character needs to realise some things that are link to the confession".
 
I explained that since then, Naruto and Hinata have a couple of moments, and I showed them to him as well.
 
"Okey, I can see your concern. As stories develop sometimes we create characters that we wish we would have seen more of. But as much as I watched about this character, the conclusion of every interaction they have (naruto and hinata) is the girl thinking the same thing. We never see him thinking about her, or about what she has done. In the case of the other girl (Sakura) we have both of them thinking about each other constantly. In this cases the side character (hinata) will have her own resolution thanks to the impact the main character have had on her, and the other two (sakura and naruto) are more likely to have a resolution together. You can decode this just by who they keep in their thoughts. The main character has been in love with the other girl (sakura) for the whole story, and it is constantly showed. You never get a hint that he is changing his mind, so it would not be logical for him to change his mind in the blink of an eye, and hes the main character, he gets what he wants. In this kind of stories, he works his ass off, he gets what he wants, and the other characters learn from him"
 
So I asked him what about the movie and I tell him everything that is going on and he told me.
 
"Then it means that in the main story the writer couldnt really find a right way to give this character her resolution, so he created the perfect situation for her to have it. If this story is linked to the main one, then it will has no sense with her ending up with the main character. By the plot of this side story, I can tell that what you will mainly see is the final impact the main character has had on her, and the writer will be able to develop her story successfully, but as I see it, and talking with my own experience, her resolution will not be ending by the side of the main character. She will go through her own personal journey, she will finally give him the scarf as a sign of that chapter of her life ending because she will know new things about herself"
I thanked him, and as I was leaving his office he said to me. 
 
"Remember that stories have to make more sense than real life. So, if you want two people to end up together, you have to constantly show how that bond gets stronger. In stories nothing just happens, so I highly doubt he will love the other girl out of nowhere, not after the writer has spend 15 years invested on the other relationship, it will be kind of crushing. Can you imagine it? Spending so much time with the one you love going through the same things, and suddenly having to forget him because someone else loves you?" 
"No, sir"
"Yeah. Keep me updated, you have made me curious"
"Course I will"
So yeah, Im keeping my high hopes, or else I will be pretty disappointed. I dont want to end up feeling disappointed.

clap clap ... the best narusaku for the win :)

[Raito]

sorry xD I was just posting the digimon trailer because I don't think people have noticed digimon is coming back, I'll stop going off topic now, we weren't too off topic though, we were comparing digimon to naruto xD

No, that was for everyone. sorry for that.

 

 

 

Everyone, stop going off topic, Digimon has no connection to Naruto whatsoever. I'm pretty sure Kishi knows what he's doing so relax. 

Edited by Raito, 02 November 2014 - 06:04 AM.

[ultranx]

No, that was for everyone. sorry for that.

 

 

 

Everyone, stop going off topic, Digimon has no connection to Naruto whatsoever. I'm pretty sure Kishi knows what he's doing so relax. 

I think so too, especially after that comment about the professor, THAT WAS SO EPIC, I LOVE IT!!

[tonga1]

 

Hi guys, watch this, Thanks to meekosfreedom   http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read

 

DEAR NS SHIPPERS PLEASE READ.

 

I was really confused about this NH suddenly happening just as all of you, so as a script/literature student for almost a year, and learning all about foreshadowing, character development, and plot treatment, I decided I should talk to someone who knew more than me.

 

I exposed this case (about NH in the last movie) to my professor, who has been a successful screen writer for 27 years, and his answer was.

"Well, if you want to get two characters together, you have to put them through a lot of situations, and make them feel everything, both sides, so you can explain why the bond is so strong. You can’t put two characters together which development is so poor, not even if the 3, or 4 moments they have had together are really meaningful. That’s only valid if you are writing a short film cause you don’t have a lot of time, but if the story is as long as you’re telling me, then you have no excuse. You have had plenty of time to put those character through more moments, and make a successful development. If you really intent to make this two characters end up together, then you should have give them more screen time"

 

the I asked him about the other character (Sakura) what was her case and he answered.

 

" It means he really didn’t think it through, and he has wasted years of paper and ink developing this relationship for absolutely nothing. Why would you spend so much time developing a relationship if you really didn’t mean it? As a story maker you have to keep in mind that you have to make things clear for the viewers, because if you don’t, things like this happen. It’s like a new trend in marketing to leave a really open plot so the viewers can make their own conclusions, and watch just cause they want to know if they’re right, and they do this without even consulting the writer. That is called comercial script, and it’s ruining the industry, darling. But if in the end you tell me this girl who has been with the main character all the time, and it’s clearly the main female character, is not ending up with him, you’re telling me the writer of this story hasn’t been able to keep his story in line. He practically took a side character out of nowhere, and created a relationship that through the story was not even foreshadow. It’s bad writing"

 

I explain about Hinata’s love for Naruto. 

 

"And have the main character acknowledge this love?"

I told him about Pein Arc, and her confession. he asked me to see the pages of the manga, and I showed them to him.

"But then this confession was not mention again. When you write about several characters, you have to give each of them a resolution, or else it will  be unfinished. This girls confessions was sudden, and it was not mention again, so in my experience this is just to help the character get its resolution. If to the main character, or to the main plot this confession is supposed to be a game changer, or something important, then it should have been mention again. I can see the main female is there again, and as you can see, or at least what it seems is that the girl is uncomfortable. Sometimes we have to take side characters to do things like this, so main characters can realise their own truth. And it’s use really often. You see a lot of movies about someone who doesn’t realise he or she is in love with their best friend until the best friend is with someone else. So having this confession, and the only person to acknowledge that moment is the other girl, then the confession is only important to those girls. As i told you before, the side character needs its resolution about those feelings, and the main character needs to realise some things that are link to the confession".

 

I explained that since then, Naruto and Hinata have a couple of moments, and I showed them to him as well.

 

"Okey, I can see your concern. As stories develop sometimes we create characters that we wish we would have seen more of. But as much as I watched about this character, the conclusion of every interaction they have (naruto and hinata) is the girl thinking the same thing. We never see him thinking about her, or about what she has done. In the case of the other girl (Sakura) we have both of them thinking about each other constantly. In this cases the side character (hinata) will have her own resolution thanks to the impact the main character have had on her, and the other two (sakura and naruto) are more likely to have a resolution together. You can decode this just by who they keep in their thoughts. The main character has been in love with the other girl (sakura) for the whole story, and it is constantly showed. You never get a hint that he is changing his mind, so it would not be logical for him to change his mind in the blink of an eye, and he’s the main character, he gets what he wants. In this kind of stories, he works his ass off, he gets what he wants, and the other characters learn from him"

 

So I asked him what about the movie and I tell him everything that is going on and he told me.

 

"Then it means that in the main story the writer couldn’t really find a right way to give this character her resolution, so he created the perfect situation for her to have it. If this story is linked to the main one, then it will has no sense with her ending up with the main character. By the plot of this side story, I can tell that what you will mainly see is the final impact the main character has had on her, and the writer will be able to develop her story successfully, but as I see it, and talking with my own experience, her resolution will not be ending by the side of the main character. She will go through her own personal journey, she will finally give him the scarf as a sign of that chapter of her life ending because she will know new things about herself"

I thanked him, and as I was leaving his office he said to me. 

 

"Remember that stories have to make more sense than real life. So, if you want two people to end up together, you have to constantly show how that bond gets stronger. In stories nothing just happens, so I highly doubt he will love the other girl out of nowhere, not after the writer has spend 15 years invested on the other relationship, it will be kind of crushing. Can you imagine it? Spending so much time with the one you love going through the same things, and suddenly having to forget him because someone else loves you?" 

"No, sir"

"Yeah. Keep me updated, you have made me curious"

"Course I will"

So yeah, Im keeping my high hopes, or else I will be pretty disappointed. I don’t want to end up feeling disappointed.

 

best post ever

[Advaith]

 

Hi guys, watch this, Thanks to meekosfreedom   http://meekosfreedom...ers-please-read

 

DEAR NS SHIPPERS PLEASE READ.

 

I was really confused about this NH suddenly happening just as all of you, so as a script/literature student for almost a year, and learning all about foreshadowing, character development, and plot treatment, I decided I should talk to someone who knew more than me.

 

I exposed this case (about NH in the last movie) to my professor, who has been a successful screen writer for 27 years, and his answer was.

"Well, if you want to get two characters together, you have to put them through a lot of situations, and make them feel everything, both sides, so you can explain why the bond is so strong. You can’t put two characters together which development is so poor, not even if the 3, or 4 moments they have had together are really meaningful. That’s only valid if you are writing a short film cause you don’t have a lot of time, but if the story is as long as you’re telling me, then you have no excuse. You have had plenty of time to put those character through more moments, and make a successful development. If you really intent to make this two characters end up together, then you should have give them more screen time"

 

the I asked him about the other character (Sakura) what was her case and he answered.

 

" It means he really didn’t think it through, and he has wasted years of paper and ink developing this relationship for absolutely nothing. Why would you spend so much time developing a relationship if you really didn’t mean it? As a story maker you have to keep in mind that you have to make things clear for the viewers, because if you don’t, things like this happen. It’s like a new trend in marketing to leave a really open plot so the viewers can make their own conclusions, and watch just cause they want to know if they’re right, and they do this without even consulting the writer. That is called comercial script, and it’s ruining the industry, darling. But if in the end you tell me this girl who has been with the main character all the time, and it’s clearly the main female character, is not ending up with him, you’re telling me the writer of this story hasn’t been able to keep his story in line. He practically took a side character out of nowhere, and created a relationship that through the story was not even foreshadow. It’s bad writing"

 

I explain about Hinata’s love for Naruto. 

 

"And have the main character acknowledge this love?"

I told him about Pein Arc, and her confession. he asked me to see the pages of the manga, and I showed them to him.

"But then this confession was not mention again. When you write about several characters, you have to give each of them a resolution, or else it will  be unfinished. This girls confessions was sudden, and it was not mention again, so in my experience this is just to help the character get its resolution. If to the main character, or to the main plot this confession is supposed to be a game changer, or something important, then it should have been mention again. I can see the main female is there again, and as you can see, or at least what it seems is that the girl is uncomfortable. Sometimes we have to take side characters to do things like this, so main characters can realise their own truth. And it’s use really often. You see a lot of movies about someone who doesn’t realise he or she is in love with their best friend until the best friend is with someone else. So having this confession, and the only person to acknowledge that moment is the other girl, then the confession is only important to those girls. As i told you before, the side character needs its resolution about those feelings, and the main character needs to realise some things that are link to the confession".

 

I explained that since then, Naruto and Hinata have a couple of moments, and I showed them to him as well.

 

"Okey, I can see your concern. As stories develop sometimes we create characters that we wish we would have seen more of. But as much as I watched about this character, the conclusion of every interaction they have (naruto and hinata) is the girl thinking the same thing. We never see him thinking about her, or about what she has done. In the case of the other girl (Sakura) we have both of them thinking about each other constantly. In this cases the side character (hinata) will have her own resolution thanks to the impact the main character have had on her, and the other two (sakura and naruto) are more likely to have a resolution together. You can decode this just by who they keep in their thoughts. The main character has been in love with the other girl (sakura) for the whole story, and it is constantly showed. You never get a hint that he is changing his mind, so it would not be logical for him to change his mind in the blink of an eye, and he’s the main character, he gets what he wants. In this kind of stories, he works his ass off, he gets what he wants, and the other characters learn from him"

 

So I asked him what about the movie and I tell him everything that is going on and he told me.

 

"Then it means that in the main story the writer couldn’t really find a right way to give this character her resolution, so he created the perfect situation for her to have it. If this story is linked to the main one, then it will has no sense with her ending up with the main character. By the plot of this side story, I can tell that what you will mainly see is the final impact the main character has had on her, and the writer will be able to develop her story successfully, but as I see it, and talking with my own experience, her resolution will not be ending by the side of the main character. She will go through her own personal journey, she will finally give him the scarf as a sign of that chapter of her life ending because she will know new things about herself"

I thanked him, and as I was leaving his office he said to me. 

 

"Remember that stories have to make more sense than real life. So, if you want two people to end up together, you have to constantly show how that bond gets stronger. In stories nothing just happens, so I highly doubt he will love the other girl out of nowhere, not after the writer has spend 15 years invested on the other relationship, it will be kind of crushing. Can you imagine it? Spending so much time with the one you love going through the same things, and suddenly having to forget him because someone else loves you?" 

"No, sir"

"Yeah. Keep me updated, you have made me curious"

"Course I will"

So yeah, Im keeping my high hopes, or else I will be pretty disappointed. I don’t want to end up feeling disappointed.

 

Brilliant post, i love this.The professor speaks absolute truth.NS for the win.

 

 

Thank you for asking ur professor and posting this my friend.

Edited by Advaith, 02 November 2014 - 06:08 AM.

[ALEX SENJU]

 

I just read about Suzuka...they make it seem as though all his girl did was hit him lolll but it almost reminds me of NS..almost, at least the main character got what she wanted

 

But in Naruto? nooope, its what SP wants we should just name the manga "SP" instead of "Naruto"

its a really good manga, and its alot like narutos pairings. A character like hinata liked the main male (who is like naruto). and main male liked main female whose alot like sakura but way more, well ill say sparatic. main female rejected male and he got together with girl that liked him but they broke up because he couldnt get over suzuka. in the end he got the girl :)

PS: there is a sequel manga with their daughter.

[Elicit]

Guys don't even get me started on Digimon. I have been ranting and raving about that for years. Its why I am the way I am with ships, especially NS. 

 

I never recovered from the big FU that was Digimon shipping ending. It was supposed to be Tai and Sora all the freakin way, that played soccer together, they had similar NS moments, Tai cried for her, they hugged, he took hits, he helped her become who she is….the movie even had a huge and I mean huge Taiora subplot which border lined main plot…..but out of nowhere and I'm being objective here, out of nowhere they stick Sora with Tai's best friend Matt. Absolutely ridiculous. 

 

Like I've said i've never recovered, from that, because I invested so much into that. I was a kid and all the signs pointed towards the couple I was rooting for than one saturday morning I get hit with that crap.  

 

Its why NS and this whole thing has me really worried. I have put a lot at stake in NS (I know it sounds lame, but just let me vent) and I always told myself that if NS pulled through I could finally put Taiora behind me. 

When did that happen exactly?

[SuperSilverStar]

When did that happen exactly?

Thirteen years ago.

[ultranx]

When did that happen exactly?

A long LONG time ago when fox kids was still around xD digimon season 2 epilouge ending is what they mean but we're going too off topic xD

 

supersilverstar basically said it, thank you, I didn't remember how long ago it was, I just knew it was  LONG time ago xD That means that I was 10 Years old, and I am going to be 24 in january xD

Edited by ultranx, 02 November 2014 - 06:25 AM.