Bail o' Lies

Probably 4 or 5 years but that is confusing given himawari age cause how old does she compared to Bolt?
If this takes place before the movie and bolt has this kitten why didn't he use it earlier cause that would have helped naruto alot.

The thing is if you look at them at best I would say The Hokage one shot happen no more then two years ago at best to when we see boruto again (so when boruto is ten or so and the daughter looks 6~ish). Since none of them look any younger then that when compared to how they look in the movie/manga or the gaiden (the gaiden seems to happen right before they take the graduation exam and the movie at best a year afterwards). The thing is SP is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO lazy they'd just copied the designs for the kids and made them eight years old. So now I don't know. As far as I can tell Bolt and the daughter might as well popped out of hinata's womb look exactly as they do right now.

....So they turned a girl that had a flat chest into...how big are those? Well I'll read through in case the tumbler post gets deleted:

First person

Wait don't we already know organic dinosaur is an nH supporter that changes translations to suit the narrative they support? I recall when we still had people that understood Japanese and in some cases from Japan when the interviews were originally coming out. People were asking about whether the tumbler translations or OD were correct and they said often OD was changing the phrasing and some cases even the words to change the meaning of what was being said, while the tumbler ones were not always exact but were closer to what was actually being written/said in the interview.

Let me explain it like this OD is convince kishimoto fully supports nH and has continued to do so never doubting or hating it for a second. So when they start translating if they find something that doesn't fit that narrative they are going to assume that's wrong -if they did it the translation themselves they must have mistranslated it- and then keep changing it until it is "correct."

So something like say ( I'm making this up as an example). In a interview he says something like this Kishimoto: "I hate the ending and regret ever doing it, I should have never made Hinata the heroine at the last minute due to pressure from my editors and SP." To OD that's wrong so they will keep "correcting it" till it right so it would be something like. Kishimoto: "I love the ending and the only regret I have is not making Hinata the heroine sooner, I'm glad for the support my editors and SP gave me for my last minute decision." Since to them that must be what it actually says.

Episode 12.  Boruto and Mitsuki. Since they already reveal their is a masked guy spreading the evil possession either this episode or the next should release the Nue...Oh it about those two so next episode.

Great it's the moon again am I going to have to see Toneri again? Nope, it's Cups talking to a snake trying to act mysterious. This may actually be interesting...if we didn't know his backstory already; that he is Orochimaru's "Son," he exist to worship Bolt, and to add a yaoi ship to this series -at least before nail comes to be part of the true yaoi ship of BN-. Honestly if we didn't already know that Orochimaru is "a good guy/no longer an antagonist now" this may have been interesting. Instead, I'm looking at my watch. Gozu Tennou? Is that the nue?

Opening

Cups is bathing in one of those scifi tube that you put experiments in. Orochimaru and Sugitsu are walking towards in shadow so in theory we aren't suppose to know who they are. Didn't the first volume of Boruto have the Mitsuki one shot in it? So this is just more time wasting fluff.

OK back to the academy where they are jumping on logs. A girl fell of the logs and her teammates left her behind so they could get a good score. Wow they are generic looking kittens. "They obviously fail because they left their teammate behind, and will get lectured about that by Shino. Then Bolt will say something that makes me think he a giant ass." Huh not yet I guess. Instead another team goes where only one guys makes it. Next It's Bolt Cups and Trainboy. Trainboy lags somewhat behind but they stick with him and encourage him and they have a brief little shounen standard chat. So they get a really low time because they stop to help trainboy. But the entire class is lectured about teamwork.

These kids are 6-8 right?

So Blond Sai, Shika, Cups, Bolt, and Trainboy after class discuss the guy doing all the possessions. So cups talks with Shika about teamwork, its value and also Bolt. So Moegi Konohamaru and Shino go and talk about how all the kids are doing and of course they quickly get to praising Bolt. Such as he is the seventh's son and the nucleus of the class. Moegi now has purple eyes for some reason.

So the repeater is reading a book about arithmetic showing how Bolt has changed him for the better. Also since Bolt is such a gift genius & nice guy he quickly help him with a problem he is having trouble with. Then cups ask if the sudden change in the repeater is because of Bolt. Then Blond Sai goes up and talks to Cups about Bolt. I'm pretty sure everyone can see the pattern for the next few minutes. Skipping.

Oh now we go to the Clone and see a flashback into her sad life so we can pity her making her more liked by certain fans...which is now the main fanbase since everyone else left. So SP can try and force the manga to abandon Salad for their Clone by going on and on about how the fans want the clone not Salad. Wow her mother is creepy. So now Cups talks to the Clone about Bolt and you can guess how that goes. In think her family is dead or something I wasn't paying attention because I was bored.

So now Cups is talking to Bolt about Bolt. So, he just smiles creepily at him, they they go to Bolt's house, -sigh- and of course Bolt start complaining about his dad to Cups. Oh god the episode is almost done! I'm Sixteen minutes in, and nothing has happened! Skipping to the end. They have dinner Naruto comes home and they have more chatting.

So bored, I'm going to talk about the preview. Yes the Nue is released next episode with it trying to remind us of the Kyuubi attack. Kakashi appears.

She can't. It will be OOC.
She should be the gentle mother who love her child unconditionally just like the mother of my neighbor totoro children. That's if they follow her character.

I mean there's no reason for kishi to make her parallel with minato.
It only show that Hinata need to be sakuranize because her lack of characterization and perhaps incompatible with naruto.

You completely right but let me add some further details.

Her ultimate mom that scares her son kittenless act is just a joke. No really it is just a joke. When we first hear about it in episode one it's one to make Bolt out to be a hypocrite since he told train boy to ignore his father because Naruto doesn't enforce his punishment, but immediately races home when he realizes he going to be late for dinner since his mother is terrifying and two) as a quick joke in episode two where she watch over him during his suspension.

In this episodes the joke was "Cups made a bad absence excuse that the academy called their parents about." No really, the joke really is just cups made a bad absence excuse. Also Hinata is bad at being the almighty mom since despite bringing her son to a teacher meeting to get lectured he decided to instead send a clone and have it give a cool speech before disappearing. If any other shounen main character did that to their mother that would have enraged her even further to the point she may have hunted him down in order to enact retribution for defying her in such away. Hell they also show that Temari who Shika has been shown to be scared of like Bolt is of his mother slapped him which made what hinata did seem mild. When he disappears she and Shino just shrugs their shoulders and then Hinata give a speech justifying his actions. Also this has no effect on Bolt because the next day he wants to skip class again despite the fact that should make Hinata -WHO HE IS TERRIFIED OF THE THOUGHT OF HER GETTING MAD AT HIM- angry again.

Honestly, it is Naruto and Shino in episode 11 that finally has an effect on him. When he question his father about if he is investigating the ghost, clearly implying that the ghost are Bolt's territory and Naruto should stay out of it. Naruto drags him silently by the ear to the observation room where Sakura was operating on the victim. Then gives a lecture on how dangerous the incidents are now and he doesn't want Bolt involved in this anymore. The tone of the scene make it clear that Naruto is clearly going to enforce his decision and Bolt and the other won't be able to defy him if Shino didn't come in and defend them. Both Naruto's lecture and Shino's defense of them is what finally makes Bolt take both the mail delivery task and investigation seriously. When before he was just using it to feel important.

Hinata is so bad at disciplining and controlling her family. Since she won't be strict with Naruto, and Bolt -WHO HAS STATED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT HE IS TERRIFIED OF THE THOUGHT OF HER GETTING MAD AT HIM- even after doing something that angers her he want to do it again. So Hinata is a bad wife and a bad mother because if one parent if failing it is that others job to both pick up the slack temporarily and get the other back on the program. Sakura would have been a better wife to Naruto because if it was her husband, a son of hers, or her daughter of her she would have enforced discipline. She is bad at being the wife of Sasuke because she doesn't make him return home to visit their daughter once in eleven years though she does a decent job of raising Salad on her own.

Just because Hinata is sweet and gentile doesn't mean she wont be "tough" on her kids.

It's not that she is "sweet" or "gentle" prevent her from being what you call "tough." The problem is a lack of spine. Hinata as only been able to throw herself into action when it it is a fight or flight situation with adrenaline pumping. In any other situation she is too meek to actually take a stand. Also she trying to be strict now? Bolt has been acting out for years, while Naruto neglects his family as much as he possibly can. Now she taking a stand because she got a call from the principal when she has never done so before? Not even when Bolt smashed a train into the monument?

Look we know why that scene happened. SP is desperate to make hinata a standard shounen mom by give her a nice gentle demure personality but turns terrifying when provoked, because before that she had utterly failed at meeting any standards other then getting married and producing children. She didn't get her man on her own in fact she was not even involve that much in him deciding to marry her. She failed at raising her kids both of which before SP got their hands on them only came off as spoiled entitle brats. She couldn't even get her husband to spend time with her or her kids.

If you look at their reaction to salad little scene for that article I brought up in another topic. They believe Salad is an anti-Sakura (everything Sakura was in their mind she is not) character worthy of being the womb that carries the children of nH's son -ignoring the fact that Bolt is a pale & pathetic intimation of his father with none of his charisma or likability-.

OK So apparently the translators are not doing this chapter. So here a summary of the chapter off the raw.

Summary Time:

So the cover page is the Fat Filler and Salad posing in a somewhat sexual manner.

The chapter itself starts off with the team of Salad Cups and Bolt going to I think Naruto's office for their next mission or something.

Instead Konohamaru is there and informs them that Naruto went off to see Gaara.

Cups explains something about Gaara, which makes Bolt and Salad have their own internal thoughts.

God knonohamaru doesn't look anything like he used to, he tells them something that gets them pumped.

Bolt splits from the group and pulls out the card which makes him think of Richie Rich. So he goes to visit him he doesn't see him and instead some guy is arguing with his minions...Oh it the feudal lord of the fire nation. This concern Bolt for some reason so he races off. 

Where we then see Salad...training in mini shorts and a mini top that look like they might be sleepwear. Honestly the what people were going off I thought it was far worst then this. It's only mildly worst then what she wears normally. So she is doing kunia training and is proud of her progress, when Bolt comes knocking at her window. They talk for a bit through the window with out looking at each other. Bolt leaves...and then Salad bites her glasses while saying something...her top is not shown in the image giving her an impression of being naked...the image has very obvious sexual connotations.

Oh Richie Rich was kidnapped by the Butler. He transforms into what he really looks like; then taunts and threats Richie. While being yanked up Richie dropped his Naruto card and the shuriken; both of which Bolt gave to him, which inspires him. He tries to use the throwing star to do...something but the butler stops him...then tries to eat him? But Bolt stops him, while getting into some standard shounen poses to try and look cool.

I would like to point out that in the Uchiha case the village repeatedly attempted to try and negotiate with them to resolve it peacefully, and every attempt failed. If Danzo had not convince Itachi to go through with the massacre all that would have happened was the Uchiha would have suffered the same fate as the Kaguya clan. They would have set fire to the village killed a good number of innocence people and former friends. Then the village would have rallied and wiped them out. The village would have been weakened and the other major villages would have exploited it to their advantage. There may have even been the possibility of a war breaking out which even the people that knew about the massacre in the manga admitted. 

Yes, it is horrible when a clan has to die so they don't kill people when they rebel, or they put a demon inside of a child to use as a weapon because the other villages are doing it, or training children from birth as soldiers in an army of magical assassins, or when a clan is enslaved by their own kin, or any of the other horrible thing that happened to people because of the corrupt ninja system in this manga! But that's what Naruto was suppose to reform and failed at. All because SP were desperate to get their waifu the ending they wanted for her at the cost of everything else about the manga!

I know I'm going to sound like an a-hole on this one, but considering that the Uchiha clan is a clan of morons that can't handle emotion or more accurately the loss of someone or something, so the instant that happens they go berserk and start killing everyone in their way because they need to "end the pain of life" by killing or enslaving everyone in their path.

Was Danzo really wrong and deciding to exterminate them? I think not.

They have a problem and they need to go away. And trying to be peaceful with them, doesn't work.

I just want to point out that the Uchiha clan were about to do the same thing that Kaguya clan (those bone guys) attempted to do around the same time in the mist village. Also remember at that time it was known as the Blood Mist village-so just from its nickname alone is more of justification for rebelling-, and yet the Kaguya clan was shown as nothing more then a bunch of blood thirsty brutes that were foolish to think they could ever try to stand up to a great village alone. But because the Uchiha have sexy boy toys and the Leaf village decided to kill them all before they could enact their coup after repeated attempts at negotiations failed; their deaths were seen tragic, cruel, and completely undeserved for such a saintly clan. Double standards.

I do have to say, you guys are nice. I mean outside this forum (excluding the remaining fanboys) people are destroying Boruto.

They call Boruto, a bastard child. They hate Hinata and her fans for destroying the series, and I asked some and they said they actually liked Hinata before, but now no.

They don't like the idea of Boruto, since it's just Naruto but with a B in front of it. It's the same thing.

 

Basically we have an old saying "Hai s-o nu o mai lungim" translation "Let's not stretch it anymore".

Burrito is not well viewed. Apart from the remaining fanboys; everyone hates it.

Gee who didn't see this one coming?

We have to or else someone comes in an start whining that we are being intolerant. It's the burden of being The fansite of the main pairing before it was kicked to the curve because fanatics and a lack of understanding of the international fanbase.

Bolt is just a gary sue version of Naruto. He acts like Naruto in most situations except he is a gift prodigy that's the best in his class. Who everyone loves after spending a short amount of time with him no matter how much of an kitten he is.

Although, I kind of started hating Hinata and her fans long before the ending. I was indifferent to Hinata's existence until I discovered her fandom and how they bashed everything I loved. 

That's the stance most people have with her. Hinata has so little personality that you can't really hate her, like most people can't really hate wall paper. But once you meet her fans, then she quickly become utterly repulsive.

The only thing that I am SO thankful for from this series (as well as The Last & the Boruto Movie) is that it shined some major light on how completely boring and utterly pointless Hinata truly is.

 

All her fans had this glorious image of their waifu being so strong, intelligent, independent, with this hidden sass in her; that she's this closet badass and hyped up her non-existent character like no tomorrow. They so badly wanted her to have the exposure they thought she deserved to showcase her abilities and these "qualities" they thought she had.

 

Well she's got that spotlight now. Must feel so good to final get that MC slot doesn't it? Look how that turned out. So perfect isn't it. Don't meet your heroes.

They worshiped her for years while she did nothing, so why is her becoming a main character mean they suddenly should put effort into her?

She lost because she was inflexible in her thought process. She knows only Route A, and never considers any other possibilities. It's essentially the biggest flaw in Azami's plan, he's teaching the entire school to Make food only one way, not taking into consideration the individuals. It's why I find the entire arc a pain, because Azami's thinking is dumb....Seriously why would someone who worshiped Jouchirou, who worked daily to evolve his cooking style and surpass the boundaries of what's possible, be so hell bent on making clones...to a point he built an empire abroad, abused his daughter to further his plans, and who knows what else just to get his revenge. It's more stupid than Sasuke's plan to kill everyone in his village to honour is brother who died to protect the people of said village...or to gain world peace my ruling over everyone like a dictator....actually on second thoughts, Sasukes' is still more ridiculous.

I agree with you. But one still has to step back and realize she lost because of room temperature wasn't right, is still pretty weak.

Also if you look at the story it really is a battle between capitalism/free market and Marxism/socialism/Totalitarianism.

The school tries to show the harshness of the business world to their students. Where in theory anyone with the talent and/or drive can rise high and succeed. But because it has become such an elite school -because of all the successful famous chefs that have passed through their halls- a lot of the student are from very wealthy elite families who thought they could just coast through the school. They end up failing and thinks its unfair (granted the school is going over board in their strictness). Then comes a group of people that agree with them that it is unfair, and that in order to make it fair & equal there needs to be a "Central" organization/government to control everything, normally controlled by a single party. Which decides on what is right and what is wrong. As well as remove what is wrong which includes: dissidents, rebels, opponents, enemies of the central organization, independents organizations that are not run by central organization, and so on.

All I imagine are awkward, tense silences and/or Naruto saying something stupid as his usual self that results in pissing Hiashi off somehow.

At best he has grudging respect for Naruto for how he helped Neji when he was alive, and at least knows his daughter (who he disinherited) found a good man. Though he'd never says it to Naruto's face which makes the relationship between Naruto and Hinata even more awkward because Naruto cannot connect to her family in any way, and still feels guilty about not fulfilling his promise to Neji. Hinata...probably doesn't care.

It's funny. If you want Boruto to be separated, why not just write a new series with similar concept?

Sequel is better then new IP for making quick cash. Keep the same fanbase instead of hoping the old one comes along for the ride.

The thing is that Kishimoto thought by making her an average normal girl would make her relatable. Well she did it remind some of themselves, some of people they know, and some of people they hate. But like you say her backstory is unexplored other then her relationship with Ino. Which is not enough for a heroine or any main character. As I have said before Hinata originally was just a satellite character of Neji, but because Neji got a backstory she was able to gain one as well. Sakura's parents were never allowed to be shown in the manga by all the editors that includes yahagi, which was the one thing that made her different from her teammates. If Kishimoto had used them from the start it could have been an interesting story line.

As for SNS, Kishimoto always had that in the background because he was comfortable with  writing about close male relationships because he has a twin brother. He did get more comfortable with writing about Sakura after marrying his wife and basing Sakura more and more off her. But then his new editors came and told him Sakura was hated. So then he switch to going back and forth between Sakura and Hinata as the eventual love interest. So with his belief he couldn't write a good female character again he double his focus on SNS.