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[Atheck]

Really? Can you search it again? 

 

Sorry. I'm not going to forage through anything that has to do with this series for the time being. The emotional wounds inflicted by recent chapters are still fresh. 

[Khaleesi]

 

Sorry. I'm not going to forage through anything that has to do with this series for the time being. The emotional wounds inflicted by recent chapters are still fresh. 

Dammit. Well, I understand, I guess...

Don't you read anything besides Naruto? Do you need something to debate about? Haha

[DarkRadeon]

I won't be able to watch Naruto anime or reread Naruto ever again because the way Naruto will behave around Sakura will be too painful to watch.Its just like when I stopped with Digimon when they did not do Taiora

Edited by DarkRadeon, 11 November 2014 - 04:51 AM.

[Shadow1275]

The best part of that review was this


Then we have perhaps the most controversial pairing: Sakura ended up with Sasuke, ruining the dreams of many Naruto-Sakura shippers. Of all the pairings, this does seem the strangest. Especially because the brief glimpse we get of Sasuke implies he's still walking the Earth and not too interested in being a father while Sakura gets stuck being a house wife. Not to mention how Sakura apparently still slept with the guy after all the grief he put her through. It just doesn't seem quite the happy ending that Sakura's fans deserved

[BecauseYouLetRinDie]

And there is another theory about missunderstanding the couples. But meh.

Dude I bet you 100 percent, if we didn't have narutos kids have whiskers, people would have never thought that they were naruhina kids. Same goes for sasusaku kid, if we didn't have her call sakura mom, that kid could well have been Karins.

[Khaleesi]

I won't be able to watch Naruto anime or reread Naruto ever again because the way Naruto will behave around Sakura will be too painful to watch.Its just like when I stopped with Digimon when they did not do Taiora

Same here :|

[Atheck]

Dammit. Well, I understand, I guess...

Don't you read anything besides Naruto? Do you need something to debate about? Haha

I have another tab open to Rurouni Kenshin on mangapanda as we speak. Helps get my mind off the narrative devastation that Kishi wrought with these last two chapters. 

Edited by Atheck, 11 November 2014 - 04:58 AM.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

I have another tab open to Rurouni Kenshin on mangapanda as we speak. Helps get my mind off the narrative devastation that Kishi wrought with these last two chapters. 

Here's some music for you, then!

[Khaleesi]

I have another tab open to Rurouni Kenshin on mangapanda as we speak. Helps get my mind off the narrative devastation that Kishi wrought with these last two chapters. 

I feel ashamed for only thinking in introducing someone this...but, well it's very interesting once you forget how weird it is. Read it but don't be part of the fandom. PLEASE. 

Here: http://www.mspaintad...m/?s=6&p=001901

You can save your reading. 

 

 

Well, you will suffer anyway, but not because of bad writing.

Edited by theunburnt, 11 November 2014 - 05:08 AM.

[tatsujin76]

After reading reactions, reviews, past interviews of Kishimoto, the manga, and thinking it over the last few days, I've come to a conclusion: Kishi never had even a rough outline of the story and/or of how things would happen. I don't even think he had the ending down until he sat down to draw and write the last chapter. I honestly feel as if the last two chapters belonged in another story or were written by another person, and I got friends who agree with me. All of this makes me think that he literally wrote arc-by-arc, if not chapter-by-chapter, hoping that everything he wrote would simply end. Just that: end. The sudden "Great End-of-Series Pair-Off", as I'll call it from now on, that was 700 is the most glaring piece of evidence. He just gave us a rushed ending after a timeskip and hoped that we would connect the dots, leaving a huge gaping hole in the story and ignoring the most important element to maintain coherence in the plot: development.

 

If I'm wrong and Kishi did have an outline of the story and/or of how things would happen from beginning to end... damn, he's the worst example of what a storyteller should be.

[Kazula]

I didn't say NaruSaku was kittening dead. I just said it would be wise for us to not get our goddamn hopes up for it being canon. There's a difference

[Khaleesi]

I didn't say NaruSaku was kittening dead. I just said it would be wise for us to not get our goddamn hopes up for it being canon. There's a difference

It doesn't matter. If you don't believe, ok. But don't tell people to give up.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

The thing is, if he was just doing it off from the top of his head he wouldn't just be inconsistent at the last possible second. He clearly had made up a plan for Naruto and Sakura to be romantically involved, but he didn't do it at the end which strikes everyone as extremely weird. It's not reading anything into anything, it's just plain-as-day him being contradictory with everything about the story. The Promise of a Lifetime, Sakura's confession of love, Sasuke's status as a mass-murdering criminal wanted for terrorism, absolutely none of that was reflected upon by the characters or even mentioned near the end. It would be as if George Lucas had filmed the original Star Wars movie (A New Hope) all the way up to the point where Obi-Wan is killed, and Luke and the Gang get on the Millennium Falcon and escape the Death Star only to have the movie end there abruptly only to begin again in THE SEVENTH/UPCOMING STAR WARS FILM. No mention of the Originals or Prequels, no exposition of the Force or the Jedi or Anakin's tragic past on becoming Darth Vader, no awesome six movies, just utter confusion as to what the Devil is going on.

 

That's how this feels. It's odd, it's dirty, and even if Kishi was rushed his editor would say "Whoa, there, what the balls is this you're handing me?! You just cut it off and make a huge friggin' time-skip?! No, I want you to end it, but end it so we can still earn money later, not by burning all your bridges!".

[Shadow1275]

I didn't say NaruSaku was kittening dead. I just said it would be wise for us to not get our goddamn hopes up for it being canon. There's a difference

Great, keep it to yourself. 

[Khaleesi]

Ok, ok, people. But please cAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS????

 

THERE IS

 

A GAMABUNTA BALLOON!!!

 

 

IN CHINA!!!!!!!

 

[Kazula]

I'm not telling anyone to give up. I'm telling them it would be wise to accept that NS might not be canon to prevent anymore letdown. You can still ship NaruSaku without it being canon ffs. Some people on here are 100% certain Kishi is trolling when everything else has pointed otherwise.

[mangafan]

The thing I hate most about this ending is the way Naruto was shown as the Hokage. Wasn't this manga about Naruto becoming the greatest Hokage ever? Instead he is shown to be a Hokage where none of the people look happy, where skyscrapers and technology look more important than ninja tools. Its like a joke, its like the mangaka is mocking the life long dream of his MC.

Even worse part is my Naruto seems to have lost his charm, his smile, his energy and enthusiasm in life. It kills me to see my favorite character this way.

[LuckyChi7]

After reading reactions, reviews, past interviews of Kishimoto, the manga, and thinking it over the last few days, I've come to a conclusion: Kishi never had even a rough outline of the story and/or of how things would happen. I don't even think he had the ending down until he sat down to draw and write the last chapter. I honestly feel as if the last two chapters belonged in another story or were written by another person, and I got friends who agree with me. All of this makes me think that he literally wrote arc-by-arc, if not chapter-by-chapter, hoping that everything he wrote would simply end. Just that: end. The sudden "Great End-of-Series Pair-Off", as I'll call it from now on, that was 700 is the most glaring piece of evidence. He just gave us a rushed ending after a timeskip and hoped that we would connect the dots, leaving a huge gaping hole in the story and ignoring the most important element to maintain coherence in the plot: development.

 

If I'm wrong and Kishi did have an outline of the story and/or of how things would happen from beginning to end... damn, he's the worst example of what a storyteller should be.

 

I know it's just a theory, but if what your saying is true then Kishi's got do a lot better with story telling.

 

Tbh I'm actually writing out a story for a book, and I've already got my ideas on how things will go down in the final book (third one). Including characters, plotlines, themes, development, etc. 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 11 November 2014 - 05:24 AM.

[Kazula]

You know what? kitten it. If we're seriously going to sit here and promote this constant state of kittening denial, then to hell with it. I'm out. I'll always ship NS, but frankly this is just ridiculous.

[Khaleesi]

I'm not telling anyone to give up. I'm telling them it would be wise to accept that NS might not be canon to prevent anymore letdown. You can still ship NaruSaku without it being canon ffs. Some people on here are 100% certain Kishi is trolling when everything else has pointed otherwise.

You know what? kitten it. If we're seriously going to sit here and promote this constant state of kittening denial, then to hell with it. I'm out. I'll always ship NS, but frankly this is just ridiculous.

And now you are just being rude. The thing is we all know all "that". But people are still making their theories. Even if it doesn't turn to be true, it doesn't matter. Let them be. It's not your deal.

Edited by theunburnt, 11 November 2014 - 05:25 AM.