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#81 Analyzer

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 05:16 PM

I predicting this franchise will end sometime next year with the decline in sales and scanlation. What I worry the most is when this Boruto contents is canceled how long this forum would last.

 

And what if it -doesn't- end? My only request is you do not then start blaming "fanatics" or a certain fandom still keeping it alive, with other unverifiable information. 

 

Decay and decline that nets into a steady line is actually extremely normal. Everyone checks out something new, and then interest dwindles until you reach your core loyal fanbase. There are things that may heighten it, bring in new folks and the like, but it will remain steady. 

 

Boruto isn't a big manga, and it's smartly aimed at hew folks, not folks like yourself. It will survive for more than just a year, easily.

 

Forum will live for as long as it has something of a community, though lack of content will probably cause slight decay.



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 05:52 PM

I predicting this franchise will end sometime next year with the decline in sales and scanlation. What I worry the most is when this Boruto contents is canceled how long this forum would last.

I imagine that several of us will still be around well after the fact.  We've done so for the last three years after Naruto's end and with the potential onslaught of interviews that will likely be forthcoming to justify/cover-up why Boruto was cancelled, we'll still have plenty to talk about.  Plus, there are other forums on this site that will still be active.

 

The bigger question is: What will Naruhina fans do with themselves after Boruto is gone?


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 06:21 PM

I imagine that several of us will still be around well after the fact.  We've done so for the last three years after Naruto's end and with the potential onslaught of interviews that will likely be forthcoming to justify/cover-up why Boruto was cancelled, we'll still have plenty to talk about.  Plus, there are other forums on this site that will still be active.

 

The bigger question is: What will Naruhina fans do with themselves after Boruto is gone?

 

Come here and blame us for getting it canceled?


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 10:44 PM

 

Come here and blame us for getting it canceled?

I imagine so, if only so they can maintain a dialogue because I'll bet that once Boruto is gone, their forums will die a silent death.


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 12:10 AM

I imagine that several of us will still be around well after the fact.  We've done so for the last three years after Naruto's end and with the potential onslaught of interviews that will likely be forthcoming to justify/cover-up why Boruto was cancelled, we'll still have plenty to talk about.  Plus, there are other forums on this site that will still be active.

 

The bigger question is: What will Naruhina fans do with themselves after Boruto is gone?

 

They will harass us and blame us for it.



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Posted 09 November 2017 - 12:32 AM

Yeah I can't wait for Boruto to die as its slow like you gues said other manga is coming out new ones which are learning from Naruto big kitten up and what not to do.

 

But I agree that NH fans will balme us they have always done so, and this is something that will never end, my only hope is that before Boruto is axed that Hinata dies and shows that Sakura was better than her, not sure how she dies but any death for Hinat would be good same with Naruto as well.



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Posted 12 November 2017 - 05:37 PM

I predicting this franchise will end sometime next year with the decline in sales and scanlation. What I worry the most is when this Boruto contents is canceled how long this forum would last.

 

I think it'll go through quite many years to come, depending on the contracts that the publishers have inked with the authors/editors. Which is good, because I would prefer them to incur loss over prolonged time, while listening to the loud minority that this series is selling well. *evil laugh*

 

Jokes aside, all front of this series looks bleak though, be it in anime and/or manga. Words on the street says that the latest volume of Naruto Next Generation (Volume 4) first week sales is about 130k copies, down 50k from first week sales of Volume 3. I thought ~260k for Volume 3 sales was rock bottom... to think that it may sold lesser than that for the 3rd best selling manga in the history.

 

Let's not even discuss other media (anime, light novel). FYI, the recent light novel of Naruto sold about 6k. I recalled the first volume of light novel (Hiden series) was ~160k, although it's trending down with volume 4 sold at ~73k).

 

Whoever made the decision to go with NH/SS as the basis of the next generation really should get penalty. NH/SS folks didn't seem to bother to support this franchise financially...


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:42 AM

I think it'll go through quite many years to come, depending on the contracts that the publishers have inked with the authors/editors. Which is good, because I would prefer them to incur loss over prolonged time, while listening to the loud minority that this series is selling well. *evil laugh*

 

Jokes aside, all front of this series looks bleak though, be it in anime and/or manga. Words on the street says that the latest volume of Naruto Next Generation (Volume 4) first week sales is about 130k copies, down 50k from first week sales of Volume 3. I thought ~260k for Volume 3 sales was rock bottom... to think that it may sold lesser than that for the 3rd best selling manga in the history.

 

Let's not even discuss other media (anime, light novel). FYI, the recent light novel of Naruto sold about 6k. I recalled the first volume of light novel (Hiden series) was ~160k, although it's trending down with volume 4 sold at ~73k).

 

Whoever made the decision to go with NH/SS as the basis of the next generation really should get penalty. NH/SS folks didn't seem to bother to support this franchise financially...

The decline has been going on three years by this point. I imagine the executives are getting at least annoyed hearing about problems Boruto is having. Yes, companies are normally very reluctant to end a contract before the time is up, but eventually when it cost them so much while giving them so little they will often rip it up. Since it clearly is not worth the time supporting it, and it just going to incur more cost if they continue wasting their time & resources. Boruto isn't at that point, yet. But if it sinks any lower it might.

 

The only form of media that the Naruto franchise might be doing well in is the video games. Since that's the only area where I haven't heard they are doing at best poorly in.

 

If it was an executive they are losing money, if it was the editors they have most likely move on to the next manga, SP are pretty much at this point putting all their hopes in Black Clover, and Kishimoto is where he is at right now.

 

From my limited understanding of the Japanese fanbase. I get the impression that most of the nH fans that were not otaku were very causal in their support. They thought it was a cute couple but ultimately wanted the characters to have a happy ending whether their pairing happened or not. When it instead turned out so negative; they have been slowly losing interest in the series over the past few years. As for the otaku, Hinata is a bland bog-standard archetypal moe girl. So if they get bored of her there are a thousand other girls in anime just like her, and a lot of them more interesting then her.

 

If we use the movies as an indicator of how well this franchise sells in parts of the world. Then currently it makes a majority of its money in Japan to the point that if you combine all the profits it makes overseas if doesn't even make a fifth of what it makes in Japan. The time when Naruto franchise was a big international seller is long over. 


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 13 November 2017 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 05:35 PM

The decline has been going on three years by this point. I imagine the executives are getting at least annoyed hearing about problems Boruto is having. Yes, companies are normally very reluctant to end a contract before the time is up, but eventually when it cost them so much while giving them so little they will often rip it up. Since it clearly is not worth the time supporting it, and it just going to incur more cost if they continue wasting their time & resources. Boruto isn't at that point, yet. But if it sinks any lower it might.

 

The only form of media that the Naruto franchise might be doing well in is the video games. Since that's the only area where I haven't heard they are doing at best poorly in.

 

If it was an executive they are losing money, if it was the editors they have most likely move on to the next manga, SP are pretty much at this point putting all their hopes in Black Clover, and Kishimoto is where he is at right now.

 

From my limited understanding of the Japanese fanbase. I get the impression that most of the nH fans that were not otaku were very causal in their support. They thought it was a cute couple but ultimately wanted the characters to have a happy ending whether their pairing happened or not. When it instead turned out so negative; they have been slowly losing interest in the series over the past few years. As for the otaku, Hinata is a bland bog-standard archetypal moe girl. So if they get bored of her there are a thousand other girls in anime just like her, and a lot of them more interesting then her.

 

If we use the movies as an indicator of how well this franchise sells in parts of the world. Then currently it makes a majority of its money in Japan to the point that if you combine all the profits it makes overseas if doesn't even make a fifth of what it makes in Japan. The time when Naruto franchise was a big international seller is long over. 

 

I think your generalizing is very dangerous here, given you're making theories that are completely unsubstantiated about other fandoms, and then they lead people to believe that is how they are, as you post them as if that is the case. For advice, I would recommend you think of them as the same as NS fans in how they see or purchase things.

 

It's a given for most native Japanese series that outside of its locale it generally makes less. The Last Naruto the Movie sold out quite a bit, thus that it was actually much easier to see Boruto the movie, as they released it to even more theaters if we're talking U.S. 

 

Keeping in mind general decay, 100k sales of anything is actually worthy to be called "reasonably" popular. I think people expecting Boruto to be as big as Naruto and judging the executives thinking that way as well are a bit off. I think it is well understood that Boruto is its own smaller thing, and will probably always stay that way. 

 

Selling 4 volumes a year with 100k each would net you $4 million dollars over a work of print, which is in no ways lack of profit or lack of popularity. If a typical author earned $50,000 locally, that's considered "Good". 

 

Thus I find this postulating over the company pointless. Unless you know how well they are predicting to do, there's really no point to this. 


Edited by Analyzer, 13 November 2017 - 05:35 PM.





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