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#948005 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 04 September 2017 - 08:14 PM

Based on the kind of comments I was reading in the "What if Naruto married Sakura" video, the Naruto fandom is mostly kool-aid drinking cancer at this point. Pathetic and disgusting comments all around. As a result, Boruto is not the series the Naruto fandom needs, but the one it deserves. :lmao:


I don't understand how Naruto getting with Sakura is some sort of death wish for his character. Edit: I watch the vid, too.


#948002 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 04 September 2017 - 07:36 PM

Sorry, very unpopular opinion here, but I don't mind Analyzer being here, in a way.

@Analyzer: I'm not going to lie, you appear very arrogant in some posts. A lot of us spent years with this series, so it's a turn off when you imply that are interpretations were wrong.

[Edit] I also wanted to add that Kishi also admitted to "baiting" us. To where even some NH/SS weren't happy about. So all of the NS moments were genuine. Coming to a pro-NS forum would be somewhat harsh considering what we went through. And by harsh, I mean were are more defensive. NS has brought a lot of joy for us. There were a lot of trolls before you on this forum.
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At the same time, I feel like some are being a little rude as well. I hate the idea of a "true fan". I've encountered just as many SasuSaku and NaruHina who spent time and a lot of money over a series they love compared to NaruSaku shippers I've also encountered who were damn glad they spent not a dime over this series. I've encountered NH and NS shippers who only read the series for NaruHina or NaruSaku, and those who could give a crap whether they become canon as long as Naruto is getting some lovin'. I've meet SasuSaku and KakaSaku shippers who aren't afraid to admit that they ship the pair because they are aesthetically hot (bad/ mysterious boy and pure girl), and I've meet NaruSaku shippers who only ship NaruSaku because Naruto "deserves the girl" (they see Sakura more as a prize then a genuine character) while calling her a kitten when she continues to love Sasuke. There are people who read the series for their bias, people who read because "what the hell, there nothing else better to do" free time, and people who read just because they want to see Naruto as Hokage and nothing more.

The entire reason the Naruto fandom is known as a toxic, closed-minded community is because this fandom carries this haughty attitude towards others with a different interpretation that they don't like, lumping them into a stupid stereotype while being ignorant to those who don't fit said stereotype.

I've meet NaruSaku shippers who don't mind the ending. In fact, that's one of the reasons why I don't mind Analyzer being here. Are we going to question their credibility as a NaruSaku fan as well?

I don't think she's a troll (or hope not) because I've also meet a NaruHina shipper who is anti-ending and extremely critical with how her ship was portrayed, and she was pretty much shunned by a good amount of the NH fandom. What you guys are doing is no different than what NH is doing. I've already seen posts of us praising NH shippers who hated the ending, now you guys are acting fake towards an NS who finds that the ending makes sense?

A "true fan" is a fan who likes the Naruto series, a fan who respects other's opinions while at the same time doesn't let it take on more value then their own. She's not forcing us to stop shipping NaruSaku. And we also aren't obligated to see her view as "right". You can block. I'm sorry, but if this was a NaruHina who came to the forum to critic how bad the series is and how NaruSaku made more sense, yada yada, we would be happy that they are acknowledging the problems of what's wrong with the series and that they finally see was NaruSaku has been seeing. Yet for some reason, the opposite happens and now you question them as a fan? Is it really hard to to acknowledge a NaruSaku who has critic over the their own ship as well? And seeing that the ending makes sense to them?

I don't even want to pinpoint just NaruSaku, the SasuSaku fandom also have this problem as well with pro/anti Gaiden, and SasuNaruSasu with pro-Naruto/ pro-Sasuke. What's wrong with this fandom with having a different opinion you don't like?

In fact, when I did took a break from Naruto and the fandom, I was happy...then I came back just to answer why I left in the first place. The Naruto fandom has a hard time accepting that people will not like what you like. Unpopular opinion again, but I don't like 470, and I will never like 470. It was anti NaruSaku, and pro SNS. It was the one chapter that made me doubt NaruSaku not because it confirmed Sakura still love Sasuke, but because Kishi confirmed that the POAL means crap unless it's about Sasuke. I, in fact, agree with SNS shippers when they say that this was a wasted, slow burn SNS love story, because it was. But I keep positive and bit my tongue because it really was an unpopular opinion in the NaruSaku community, especially back than with the whole ship war.

I'm sorry but the only opinion I carry was that Kishi wasn't a consistent writer. None of the pairings, NS included, made absolute sense because Kishi wanked the love triangle. NS became less and less credible the farther Kishi got with love triangle, to a point where people jumped ship. The angst Kishi did with SS got to a point where SasuSaku look like kitten individuals. Kishi even made Sasuke and Naruto dead beat daddies as a self insert for his own kids. I understand seeing what we all see in NaruSaku, but it shouldn't be a surprise that Kishi kitten on the pairing way before the ending. For me, the only pairing in the big 5 (SS, NS, SNS, NH, SK) that has any remote credibility is SNS. You guys already saw
Some recent promotions, and well as it being the only pairing Kishi has ever spoken fondly about, like he actually wanted them to hold hands.

I went to a tangent, but just let Analyzer speak. I don't agree with her, but I don't think she's a troll. I just want another perspective. Plus moderators will do something if she crosses the line.


#939392 Boruto: Naruto Next Generation Episode 3

Posted by NeonRanger on 08 May 2017 - 04:35 PM

Sorry, but you can't exaggerate the unpopularity of Naruto this much.

 

Ratings are not the primary factor in an anime's cancellation. Anime's primary factor is to promote the source material. They are created to get people to by the manga, merchandise, etc.  The anime is ongoing as long as mechandise sells. 

 

There is no 4 people over a million. Over 450,000 bought the first volume of Boruto, 350,000 for volume two. And according to NF, volume three will sell above volume two, but not past one. I've seen other ongoing mangas with less. This whole drop in sells has nothing to do with the ending, more so that Kishi isn't "writing" it. Even than, if the mangaka does start exploring the plot in a more exciting tone, the sells could go higher.

 

NH does sells and continues to sell. Merchandise. Did you not see the new promotion materials of NH? There was also some SS as well. Hinata also sells.if they didn't sell they would have stop long ago. And even if NH/Hinata stops selling, what makes you think they won't explore other options like Minato and his story, or the Uchihas? 

 

A Boruto exhibition just open in Japan. You still have the Shippuden musical. Boruto was 2 on the top adult comics. 

 

The he point of Boruto isn't to just surpass Naruto, it is to grab whatever left in case the franchise does die out. This is the same for Dragon Ball Super and Sailor Moon. They aren't doing it for the well being of nostalgia, they are milking everything that is even remotely popular until people no longer enjoy it because the last thing they want is wasted money. 

 

If Naruto does die, SP would just move on. SP isn't in charge of the franchise, that would be Shounen Jump/ Shueisha. They have a part of control of animation. With One Piece alive and kicking, dropping Boruto if it doesn't become a success isn't a big deal.




#939390 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 08 May 2017 - 03:11 PM

The anime had a lot of disappointing fillers, of course people would be turned off. The anime being on a decline started years before the ending. 

 

Casual fans also has as much importance as dedicated, analytical fans, which is why I decided to stop being very serious about what I choose to get into. I feel like we are forgetting that there are fans who just get into Naruto for the most basic of reasons and don't take the morals or lessons seriously because, to them, they are just drawings on pieces of paper, fiction. I'm saying this because my sibling is a Naruto fan, spent money, but cringes anytime I take it seriously.

 

I'm am saying this for all series, not just Naruto.

 

@lux: I don't believe it's really power, more so then presence and importance. And likability. There is a lot of NH who ship IR. With IR and Rukia, Kubo did made it clear how important she is when it comes to Ichigo, her status as heroine, and the overall plot. You also have the anime emphasized her points even a little more. Her power was just a bonus. She's also very likable in personality and character traits. Orihime was okay, but wasted potential, which is why people didn't like her. Kubo didn't explore her potential and left a lot of plot points out. I won't say she wasn't important to plot, she is, but it's not hard to see that Kubo had opportunities to give Orihime a decent platform, but didn't or failed/ignored.

 

I say the same for Kishi, somewhat. I agree, the Sakura hate became a meme, but even without the "haters", she would still have a large hate base. I'm sorry, but I really side with SNS shippers when they argue that Sakura was the third wheel in Team 7. Sakura was a heroine with secondary character's trait. We had to find out about her parents through a movie not everyone will watch or see as canon. We has significant Sakura moments reduced (the POAL for ex.) into pro-SNS. You had the anime exaggerate what fans dislike about her character to make her even more disliked. Despite have important moments, they weren't emphasized, more so, "oh, here's a Sakura moment, enjoy!" 

 

On the other hand, Hinata was a background character with traits that would fit a heroine, if one explores in depth, and I think that's what makes her more likable than Sakura. Hinata had unexplored potential while Sakura was wasted. She was the one who ended off part 1 with her "proud failure" speech, after having a background slightly explored into, and why she seeks validation from Naruto. You have moments like 615, that would fit a heroine more than a background character, and yeah people do find her submissive and shy, but for some NH, with 615, it's not hard to picture her as assertive when she needs to be. A lot o NH also likes how she plays out side of status quo as well. For ex, Hinata having no interest being a ninja, which is why some many people are not angry with Hinata being domestic compared to Sakura. Some anti-NH even mention if Hinata had a bigger importance they wouldn't have minded NH, and that's pretty much one the major reasons why people dislike NH. They hated how important Hinata became suddenly, with The Last. Which is why you see NH adamant that the manga would have been better with Hinata as heroine. 

 

Both Sakura and Orihime were wasted potential, but Kubo only mange to save Orihime, slightly, by keeping her important to the plot and Ichigo, the main character. With Naruto, it was the light shounen-ai version of SNS, with Sasuke taking on the heroine role and Sakura being the honorary mention. 




#935136 How Kishimoto could have made Sakura popular

Posted by NeonRanger on 22 March 2017 - 05:09 PM

True, Hinata wasn't that popular. It's more of the fact that she surpasses Sakura when it comes to being well liked in the fandom and franchise. Compared to Hinata, Sakura has a lot more haters than fans, a lot more. Kishi even was aware of how hated Sakura is, which is why he didn't include a backstory. (Which was a bad move; it probably would have helped her popularity.) Even without including Kishi's mistakes on how he should have handled Sakura, you have SP who butchered her character to where she was legitimately unlikable. (And a lot of people do watch the anime.) Sakura just didn't have the fanbase like Hinata's and manage to be more appealing within the franchise. With or without bias people telling him how popular Hinata is, the Sakura hate was well known and present. Hinata isn't on Kakashi/ Uchiha/ Akatsuki level popularity, but she is definitely above Sakura's. (individually wise, not pairing wise.)  

 

 

Edit: I'm wondering if she wasn't "tsundere" would people like her? From what I've seen a lot of don't like her because she's too kitteny when it comes to Naruto. I don't want Sakura to have Hinata's personality, but maybe if she was more like Temari?

 

I feel like she should have been told about the Uchiha massacre. And more involved with Naruto's troubles. Generally she's the only teammate that isn't really involved when it comes to Team 7 (just SNS). A lot of people don't like her with how little she understands Sasuke and Naruto, and I agree. She was kinda the third wheel in Team 7, even well after Sasuke left. I feel like even without a backstory, if she was more present when it comes to SNS and Kishi emphasize how important she is for Sasuke and Naruto, people would have at least tolerated her. 




#932308 new kishimoto interview 2017

Posted by NeonRanger on 15 February 2017 - 05:10 PM

No, I wasn't disagreeing with your post, I mainly wanted wanted to go further on how Sakura  and development weren't the sole reason for the Sakura hate. I've seen fans who ship SK aand hate Sakura because she was an abusive character towards Naruto. 

 

You're right; if Sakura was more developed she would probably had a better fanbase. Yes, fans were telling him that Sakura wasn't a proper heroine, but they also told him that Hinata would have made a better heroine and that she was more so a heroine than Sakura. And do you see Hinata acting Heroine-like in the the manga?

 

As for Kishi making no effort: I believed that he did, but gave up. I saw no regression in Sakura from Part 2 til the end of the Pain Arc. I saw small issues here and there, but not compared to what came after for Sakura. I'm saying for all we know fans still continued to hate Sakura after her the potential that Kishi had gave her (like her fight with Sasori), and realized that Sakura would be hated no matter what he does with her, which is why he dropped her. He gave us genuine Sakura and especially NS moments during the first half of Part 2; even his wife supported NS and Sakura. Of course he's doing damage control, but honestly I'm more convinced that fans (and his editors) pushed Kishi into the idea that Sakura was going to be a lost cause not matter what and you should focus on SNS (and Hinata). 

 

I know that blame is deserved. Like I said, I blame Kishi for being weak and not assertive. Kishi is more of a pushover; he mentioned the convincing he had to go through just for his editor to approve of the harem scene. If Kishi had a backbone like Oda, I can easily see the manga going a different direction. I'm not saying the hate was unjustified on Kishi. I mainly see Sakura fans especially just automatically pointing 100% of the finger at Kishi saying that he should be a better writer and he hates Sakura and whatnot. Even though I agree with blaming on Kishi, I feel like some fans are not aware that outside factors also played a huge factor in Sakura's development. Kishi confirmed in the Gaiden interview that fans believed that Sarada was Karin's mother. Not how Sakura ending up as a housewife or issues with many other plot holes, but if Sasuke cheated on Sakura. Then you have fans (NH I've seen especially) disappointed that it wasn't the case. I know Sakura was hated, but the idea of Karin being the mother only makes Sakura look more pathetic and desperate in the end. After the ending, Sakura was a housewife. Even though her development went backwards, she could still be defended, up until Gaiden and since then the interviews. The fact that people really think that little of a character is sad no matter who much you dislike the character.

 

I justify the Kishi hate with Sakura. But I'm not surprise that he no longer cares for her anymore. If you notice in every new project, interview, side stories, etc. that involves Hinata and Sakura, Sakura gets the stick. So you can see were the majority lies. Fans had no issue with Hinata being the new Heroine, Hinta having her own special projects, Hinata suddenly becoming more in your face than before the ending. The hate for Kishi is right, but having a shallow fan base like Naruto's only gave Kishi the more so reason to go through with Sakura's regression. Kishi played the part, but a good amount of fans had no problem with it, so he continued. 

 

Sorry, I wasn't specifically addressing you. I just went into a ranting mode, ha. 




#932293 new kishimoto interview 2017

Posted by NeonRanger on 15 February 2017 - 03:02 PM

This sums up the pairings and all Post ending interviews with Kishkittens perfectly. It is shallow and will ALWAYS be shallow. :superior: The pairings are shallow, the story is shallow, his reasoning is shallow, and I'm sure his wife and kids think, nay, KNOW he is shallow at this point. Not because of him making this atrocious ending or these garbage pairings but that  he would not stick up for his true intentions and ideas when it REALLY mattered. Instead of giving IN to the hatred of Sakura, why didn't he even bother making her a proper heroine? By that I meant he had the proper components for her set up, but he needed to 1) make her aproper fighter that could stand her ground with her OP teammates and not regress to a cheerleader like the rest of the K11, fighting off Fodder, and 2) GET RID OF HER SELFISH FRAILTY AND LACK OF GRIT/ MORAL CHARACTER in front of "Sasuke-kyunn!!!!!" Does he even know WHY Sakura is so hated and little girls say they will never look to his Sakura as a role model? Because he made her into a shallow ideal that a girl must worship and be in love with a "hot guy" for no reason than other than that he is a "hot guy" It must be indoctrinated in Sakura that she must be inlove with Sasuke for his hot looks and not his personality (which by the way is practically non-existent) and his lack of care for her. Even little girls know that you you genuinely wouldn't love a boy if he treated you like kitten and emotionally abuses you (WHICH BY the way there are several examples of that prominent in the manga itself) On top of trying to kill you. to any true fan that sees this abuse for what it truly is, Sakura is insane and emotionally needy then apparently, in contrast to how she feels with Naruto which is independent, willful and free to speak her mind which is an equal relationship.

 

The biggest irony here is that Sakura was actually supposed to be "deconstructing" the "wanting the bad boy" trope. But she got with him anyway which made the message fall flat, and deserve to be a punch line in a joke. :down:  

 

I'm not going to defend Kishi, but I'm also not going to put 100% of the blame all one him: 

 

Your points would make a lot more sense if Hinata received the same backlash.  

 

If fans hated Sakura for being all, "Sasuke-kun", then why is Hinata being adored for her love, "Naruto-kun"? (Even then, Sakura wasn't all "Sasuke-kun" 100% of the manga compared to Hinata's "Naruto-kun" moments.) 

Fans hated Sakura for being a "cheerleader", yet adored Hinata, who, in canon, did not mind at all taking on a supportive role.Fans complain about Sakura not being a heroine, yet prefer (and with some, believe) that Hinata would be a better heroine.Fans hated Sakura for a lack of importance in the manga, yet the Naruto would have been dead if it wasn't for Hinata's importance. Fans complain about Sakura being a housewife, but they ignore Hinata who is also a housewife. Though, I don't mind this argument--

(I find Hinata doing anything other than being a housewife or owning a small knitting shop in the village as OOC. Hinata showed NO interest whatsoever in continuing on the kunoichi path, let alone Hyuga leader. Even before the ending, I always pictured her as a housewife or a villager who owns a small shop while Neji (then later on Hanabi, after his death) takes over the role in changing the ideas of the Hyuga. I wish some fans would understand that with characters like Hinata, the housewife roles are IC compared to characters like Sakura who clearly was written in the manga as wanting to accomplish more than being a housewife. Sorry for the mini rant.)

 

--but the complaints are more so meant to degrade Sakura while lifting Hinata up, than actual disappointment. 

 

Fans say that they would like Sakura more if Kishi gave her a background story, yet for some reason that are willing to accept retcons and fillers that involve Hinata's background. (Or course she was the first acknowledge Naruto. not Iruka at all.)

 

There is no other reason for the Sakura hate other than her "tsundere" personality. For majority, she's a kitten.

 

We can say Sakura is hated because of SS, yet both SS and SNS are the most popular parings in Naruto. We can say that SS and SNS fans self insert, yet during the time Gaiden was out, fans had more sympathy towards Sasuke than Sakura rather than the other way around. In fact, Sasuke is popular with most casual fans because he's a kitten. We can say that Sakura acts needy and dependent and submissive and all that towards Sasuke, but yet not many fans have an issue with Hinata who is even more needy and dependent and submissive. "Naruto never tried to stab Hinata." But, like I said, both SNS and SS are popular ships; Sasuke attempted to kill Naruto more than once, but Naruto hasn't received the same amount of backlash that Sakura gets on a daily basis for still being all about Sasuke. Is it because Sakura never fought back? Yet, a lot of fans complained how Sakura became there least favorite when she tried an attempt a kill on Sasuke during the Five Kage Arc (she didn't even succeed because she cared about Sasuke). You have fans who bash Sakura for being useless, but praise Hinata for even the most insignificant of moments. Fans that call Sakura a kitten, but love Sasuke for being "that kitten". Fans who believe that removing Sakura will change nothing nothing in the manga, yet believe that Naruto wouldn't have made it this far if it wasn't for Hinata.

 

Fans today still blame Sakura on Neji's death. Sakura is the go to for hate when it comes to the flaws of their faves. Sakura is hated for reasons where if other faves have done or struggle with, fans would be okay with or admire or shrug and ignore about. When you have a fandom like that, with Studio Perriot and Shueisha and editors obvious bias for NH, with Hinata's sudden increase in popularity, I'm not surprised if he gave up on Sakura. I can only blame Kishi for being soft, and not assertive like other mangakas when it comes to their works. 

 

To be honest, I wouldn't mind SS if part 2 SS was anything like Part 1 SS. Sasuke just became more of kitten as the manga continued, and I still don't understand the appeal that personality when it comes to fans.




#932077 new kishimoto interview 2017

Posted by NeonRanger on 10 February 2017 - 03:02 PM

I agree;  right after the pain Arc Sakura only went downhill from there. People even complain how Sakura wasn't a heroine during the 5 Kage Arc and considered Hinata as a better heroine. I don't agree, but even if I choose to see Naruto from 1-698 I can see why majority left Sakura to dust after Pain.

 

I've read some NH comments on the interview on how happy they are that they no longer have to acknowlege Sakura as a heroine by her fans. You can't undue what is written on paper, but you can carry a different interpretation and level of importance. His interview only gave people more of a reason to dislike Sakura and view her impact in the manga as less than average or on par with secondary characters. One debate I've seen even before the ending from Sakura fans against anti Sakura fans was her level of importance in the manga. People didn't consider  her heroine even before (and during) the War Arc (some also said she dropped after the Sasori fight). Without the interview we could at least say that Sakura was a heroine with potential if Kishi was a good writer. To say that Sakura was on par to secondary characters only gives points to antis who say that her moments can be legit given to secondary characters. All the more reason antis can back up their arguments of how removing Sakura will have no impact the manga. Kishi is not erasing the pages he'd written, but he's reducing the level of importance Sakura has had.  




#931795 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 06 February 2017 - 12:35 AM

Honestly, from reading the interview, I'm mainly assuming that Kishi finally gave in to Anti's and is now starting to hate Sakura as character. I'm shocked he hadn't said that he regretted her character yet. Honestly, the hate for Sakura is unbelievable in this fandom. It really got to the point where even the creator has some sneaky remarks about her. Kishi know full well that Sakura is a heroine, but what's the point in convincing a fandom where majority could care less about her.

 

What made it worst for me was reading some of NH's responses towards this interview. Most are actually glad that Sakura is considered as on par to Kiba, and how NH was always the main love story since the beginning. Where? And being happy that a character needed to be shafted for your pairing's sake? This only makes me dislike NH even more.




#930275 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 12 January 2017 - 08:14 PM

My sis dedicated herself more into anime (dub) than the manga (she hates reading in general). So I didn't really put much effort in convincing her that Sakura isn't like that because I knew she'd never finish the manga (she stopped right before part 1 SNS fight and continued into anime).

 

Ive noticed plenty of anti Sakura fans base her character off the anime. SP really does exaggerate their character types. 




#930262 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 12 January 2017 - 05:26 PM

I was wondering: have anyone bet sent any letter to Kishi? Before the the ending (way before)? Kishi talked about the Sakura hate and it made me wonder how much hate he ever received while writing Naruto (character hate/ pairing hate). Kishi even said how he didn't understand Hinata's popularity. 

 

I know Kishi is a bad writer, but I personally felt that if we had gave more support/critic towards problems we had towards the manga early on, the ending might be different. Some might have had blind confidence in Kishi, but the fact that he heard his haters more was what really changed his direction at points. 

 

I could say Kishi should just ignore that haters, but not  everyone would be motivated enough to continue writing for a character that "majority" hates. Even worse a secondary character who hasn't even received even half of a development of the heroine manages to surge in popularity while you're trying to make sure heroine stays popular. 




#930248 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 12 January 2017 - 01:26 PM

You are saying that you don't want a pessimistic response, so I'll give you a realistic response: Kishimoto doesn't "own" Naruto; he created Naruto and pretty much sold his soul to Shounen Jump. Your letters mean nothing because he doesn't "own" Naruto, you have a better chance writing letters to SJ. Kishi already mentioned how he had to climb steep hills just for them to approve of Naruto's Male Harem Jutsu. Then you have money: unless profit can be made for the alternative ending, the will not spend a dime. How far do you want it to be? Just to replace the last two chapters or a Boruto like movie? If they are going to put time into creating and alt ending , they would want something in return as well. Then you have fans; you ask for an alt ending, you'll have SNS asking for an alt ending, then you'll have salty NH/ SS asking for a better version of the ending then we have just another meaningless war over. Already, no one will risk an alt ending with backlash, with Bolt still being created. If you want an alt ending you need to talk to the pro ending fans about issues with an alt ending. Lately from what I've seen a lot of SS shippers have a soft spot for NS. Then you have NS shippers who want nothing to do with the Naruto franchise and are creating their own stories. And other shippers who moved on from Naruto. There are better series outside of Naruto. 

 

Anyway, after the whole Boruto franchise is over and what not, I think they might explore the ideas of a Naruto reboot. Or Kishi might pull a JKR. I'm not saying you can't do it, it's just that other people have already done it before (wrote letters to Kishi) on deaf ears. Your. Best chance is if the Boruto franchise proves to be a failure in the end and people are still interested enough for a alt ending. 




#920897 Western values VS Japanese values in Anime

Posted by NeonRanger on 15 September 2016 - 05:46 PM

One of the reasons why I'm not surprised most of the females ended up as housewives in Naruto. One of the reasons I avoid the Mashima or Kishimoto are sexist arguments. Yeah, there is a definite concern with how women are viewed in some mangaka's eyes, but it's not like they suddenly decided to view women in that way. JP is a very conservative and traditional country; it only just started opening up to liberal views, like equality. Kishi was raise to believe that being a housewife is normal and ok just like any other in JP. And it is okay. 

 

This is is why I avoid tumblr like a plague. There is being a Liberal, and then there's the Jill Stein supporter. You have no chance there if you're a straight, white male. I've seen so many call out post like it's a daily ritual. 

 

Like I've been through SNS posts, and if you even attempt to put NS on a pedestal to SNS, you're homophobic, support manipulative abuse, and even to as far as supporting genocide (like my bad Sasuke isn't that likable of a character). You don't know how many NS blogs I left because they decided to become an SNS supporter. I've even seen pro NH/SS join SNS. 

 

I can't even enjoy Steven Universe without the occasional "you're a racist!", "you're against fat people", and the obvious homophobia. 

 

Like I understand issues occurring in real life, but Tumblr is just all out crazy with it. Lol.




#920895 Avatar the last airbender controversial story/pairing disscussion

Posted by NeonRanger on 15 September 2016 - 05:18 PM

Honestly, I don't like Bryke since he mocked the Zutura fandom, then you had LoK where even some of the "SJW"'s admit that Korrasami looked last minute.

 

LOK lost a lot of popularity since volume two, one of the reasons why it was moved from television to online viewing. But one of the reasons why people lost interest was the stupid romance becoming such a part of the plot, something that wasn't as focus with TLA. If obvious as day Korrasami was canon for boost points, but sadly people are oblivious due to the already lacking representation of lgbt+  in series as is. Bryke just made Korrasami canon so they won't focus on the problems of LOK.  




#917750 *The* Bleach Discussion Thread

Posted by NeonRanger on 17 August 2016 - 07:32 PM

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