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[Setto Kaiba]

 the only one talking loads of bs is you but i'm still replying 

I'm not one of the guys who thought war with Russia was a good idea, so you can continue to say I'm full of BS all you like. America disagrees based on who won the election   . 

 

But since you know so much, please fill me in on some of Berni's major accomplishments. 

Edited by Setto Kaiba, 16 March 2017 - 03:20 AM.

[Nate River]

Can the left provide us with anymore fail? They seem to have an endless supply.
 
The grab her by the pu$$y tape failed.
 
Jill Stein's recount failed.
 
Rioting failed
 
The Fake News Narrative failed.
 
Autistic screeching failed.
 
Buzzfeed failed
 
And now...Trump's tax returns proved them wrong yet again.
 
So...much...fail.

Please stop double posting. If you want to add more to a post, please just edit it.

[sushi.]

Is this something we should consider before striking "terrorists" in North Africa and West Asia? Do we make ourselves responsible for them? I'm sure you've all seen the news today > https://mobile.nytim...e-in-syria.html

Are these attacks justified and why? Is killing families or neighbours of suspected terrorists acceptable? As far as I know it's illegal, but Trump has expressed interest anyhow. Does he belong in the highest seat in the country or should he throw himself in the prison cell he wants to see Clinton in? (Bringing up Obama or Clinton's imperialistic sins, or brushing these attacks off as accidents gives minus points)

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[Setto Kaiba]

Is this something we should consider before striking "terrorists" in North Africa and West Asia? Do we make ourselves responsible for them? I'm sure you've all seen the news today > https://mobile.nytim...e-in-syria.html

Are these attacks justified and why? Is killing families or neighbours of suspected terrorists acceptable? As far as I know it's illegal, but Trump has expressed interest anyhow. Does he belong in the highest seat in the country or should he throw himself in the prison cell he wants to see Clinton in? (Bringing up Obama or Clinton's imperialistic sins, or brushing these attacks off as accidents gives minus points)

You know...why don't you go ask the people - who, by the way were Muslims - who drove trucks through crowds of people in European countries when those countries had very little to do with the war we "evil Americans" supposedly started. Were those people run down in the streets for doing nothing other celebrating a holiday event that opposed Islam deserving of the fate they got that night? Ask yourself that.

 

So, by following your logic, the families, friends, neighbors, relatives, etc that knew a person among them was going to go off and join ISIS should not be punished for allowing said person to make that decision. Following that kind of logic we may as well just blame a young boy at school who's bullying other kids, and not blame his parents a single bit. Or his older siblings who should have the intelligence to stop him. Should something not be done about them, too? Trash breeds more trash. It's not rocket science to understand.

 

Secondly, Trump hasn't even been in office for four months yet, and you people are demonizing him for some of the most pathetic crap I've ever seen. The only thing he's proven thus far is that he was right about just about everything he said while running, and he's gaining momentum by the day. More and more people are starting to support him while the left is losing power at a rapid rate.

 

So, Sushi, in your wisdom, tell us what laws Trump has broken that should put him in jail. I'm very eager to see this list. 

[sushi.]

naah you don't know my logic, but following yours;
- A civilian population is responsible for its government's actions - that Americans are evil are your words, not mine
- The Tunisian truck attacker, who pre attack would've been accepted into Trump's America - represents Syrian refugees. Is sharing religion enough to drag all of them down? If bad muslims represents all muslims, can Malala or other muslim heroes represent all muslims too?
- Because parents should watch out so theur kids don't become terrorists..should we kill families of all criminals, or only muslim terrorists? Is a parent of a murderer deserving of death or any other sentence? If not, what do they deserve?

*if I can guess the country you're talking about; France is involved in the war and sends warplanes down south through NATO. Still not demonizing its citizens : g

[Setto Kaiba]

Oh dear, it's worse than I thought it would be. Okay, let's get this over with I'm missing dinner. 

 

A civilian population is responsible for its government's actions - that Americans are evil are your words, not mine

 

I don't think I've screamed any louder in my life time after reading this. Americans. Evil. Really? The irony of this is unreal. The one country everyone else calls on for help in dire times, only to be shunned upon by the people who called on us to begin with... is the "evil" country. European logic (Scandinavian even) here. Enough said. Moving on.

 

 

The Tunisian truck attacker, who pre attack would've been accepted into Trump's America - represents Syrian refugees. Is sharing religion enough to drag all of them down? If bad muslims represents all muslims, can Malala or other muslim heroes represent all muslims too? 

 

Have you not seen Sweden, Germany, France, and basically any other country in Western Europe? Have you not compared these countries to Eastern Europe who have ZERO refugees?! Western countries have seen a massive rise in crime. Murder, rape, thievery, you name it. Why? Because of these Syrian invaders. I'm sure there are a few who go there legitimately looking for a better life, but how many women are coming into European countries? How many Arab children have been crossing the borders? Also, what good have these "refugees" brought to these European countries? Are they trying to learn the language? Are they actively seeking jobs? Or are they just abusing the countries welfare system? Everything I've seen points to the latter. 

 

Because parents should watch out so theur kids don't become terrorists..should we kill families of all criminals, or only muslim terrorists? Is a parent of a murderer deserving of death or any other sentence? If not, what do they deserve?

 

If they're the family of a terrorist...who's stopping more from coming from that particular family? It's the same thing with "hoods" or inner cities. Crime is high in these parts because the parents allow their kids to run around in gangs, smack talking to the police and doing stupid kitten. Should the parents face death because of this? Maybe not, but they should be held accountable for not teaching their kids better morals. 

 

if I can guess the country you're talking about; France is involved in the war and sends warplanes down south through NATO. Still not demonizing its citizens

 

Yeah, wasn't that AFTER ISIS attacked France the first time? Gee. This group from this part of the world killed and injured thousands of innocent civilians, but we shouldn't retaliate the same because leftist ideals. 

 

Bomb the kitten out of these countries and make it known who's in charge! 

Edited by Setto Kaiba, 18 March 2017 - 12:38 AM.

[AHK]

NASA's word against yours. 
 
It amazes me how many people fall for this load of BS. 
 
Recent studies show the ice caps are getting bigger. 
 
https://www.nasa.gov...er-than-losses/
 
Point number 2 and 3, that probably because our nearest STAR has been heating up for the past multiple years, but has started to cool itself down a bit.
 
http://www.express.c...-solar-activity
 
 
So, climate change exists in terms of winter, spring, summer and fall, but nothing else. They've been trying to call for Climate change for years, constantly putting down dates for when some major catastrophe was supposed to happen, and guess what? They were proven wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME! That is exactly why more and more people are abandoning this dead horse. But far left liberals continue insist that something exists when it doesn't! 
 
http://www.dailywire...hoax-john-nolte
 
 
And even if it did exist, you know how much the ocean is supposed to rise in the next 100 years? About a foot. Yeah, real life threatening. 
 
https://www.forbes.c...s/#64062ce01194

Lmao man, you should probably try to know what you're talking about before you venture into areas like this. The fact that you can't comprehend why the bold would be life threatening is short of laughable.

You're quite the troll, alright.

[sushi.]

You're missing dinner because you're beating around the bush. I was quite direct but you keep bringing up irrelevant things. I didn't even advocate for taking in refugees in that post, so bringing up crimes done by them is like I said, irrelevant. However, are the Syrian victims of the recent attack responsible for the truck attack or similar attacks? Are they the same people because they all believe in Muhammed? If not there's no reason to bring it up.

The west have been fighting 'muslim terrorism' for decades but the situation has only gotten worse. Maybe it's time to stop using money and lives on this?

I won't miss my dinner until you adress my point, until then I'll eat my sushi and watch some netflix.

[Setto Kaiba]

Lmao man, you should probably try to know what you're talking about before you venture into areas like this. The fact that you can't comprehend why the bold would be life threatening is short of laughable.

You're quite the troll, alright.

Hmm. Yeah, I can say the same for people who actually believe in that garbage. I've moved on from it, try convincing me another time. 

 

But since I know so little, apparently, I'll just post this. 

 

 

And this.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6YfQx9I64

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSrjAXK5pGw

Edited by Setto Kaiba, 18 March 2017 - 01:08 AM.

[Hanabi]

I think Climate change is real.
Why many people deny it? What will they get from that?

why is it even in the politics thread lol. i understand ketosaiba points that some exaggerations like the end of world in 2013 are quite aggravating to hear (those 'scientists' who claim that should be denounced) but with our knowledge of the ice age, of course climate change is real. nothing have been stationary for long on earth.

Edited by Hanabi, 18 March 2017 - 01:36 AM.

[Setto Kaiba]

why is it even in the politics thread lol. i understand ketosaiba points that some exaggerations like the end of world in 2013 are quite aggravating to hear (those 'scientists' who claim that should be denounced) but with our knowledge of the ice age, of course climate change is real. nothing have been stationary for long on earth.

Climate change was around before man even walked the earth. It's not man made. Man has nothing to do with it. 

[AHK]

Climate change was around before man even walked the earth. It's not man made. Man has nothing to do with it.

Again, you show the propensity to have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody, in the history of ever, has ever claimed that climate change is man-made. Climate change is a natural process that can be accelerated by man-made occurrences. It's not hard to understand.

[Setto Kaiba]

Again, you show the propensity to have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody, in the history of ever, has ever claimed that climate change is man-made. Climate change is a natural process that can be accelerated by man-made occurrences. It's not hard to understand.

https://www.skeptica...bal-warming.htm

 

Uh, yeah. Funny how people say it's the industry that's causing it, then say stuff like that. 

 

The Earth is constantly changing. Its been around for 4.5 billion years. How long have humans been around? 100 thousand? Maybe 200 thousand if we want to stretch it? The industry has been around for maybe two-hundred years?

 

The planet itself has killed species in the past. What's to stop it from doing the same to us? What, we're going to fight nature now? Yeah, let me know how that goes.

 

The sheer idiocy of this crap alone makes me glad Trump won. 

 

 

And for all the people who go on and on about this...they don't seem to have any problem traveling in their nice private jets and driving around in their fancy cars. I'll believe in this crap when the people in charge of this stuff act like they actually believe it themselves and stop being hypocrites. Oh, and when the weather stations can tell me EXACTLY what the weather is going to be one week from today...I might start believing it then. Until then, it's a load of crap the gullible are buying into. 

 

 

I still have yet to see an actual answer to this "problem" people are going on about. 

Edited by Setto Kaiba, 18 March 2017 - 02:17 AM.

[sushi.]

Historic climate changes did not consist of a damaged ozone layer or a sky filled with pollution and the rainforest was 20% bigger a few decades ago because of man.


You don't need to be called Albert to understand this.. Climate change is natural but the earth's temperature is on record this isn't natural

[Setto Kaiba]

Okay, once again, how do you stop it? 

[sushi.]

Okay, once again, how do you stop it?

Climate change?

Take a class of CSR (how to make profit without being kitten about it) and think of alternatives to soy, oil etc, for example.

If it's not that then what are you talking about? Considering your posts I didn't think you'd be actually interested in the answers smh..it's like seeing Trump recycling his milk lol.

[Setto Kaiba]

Climate change?

Take a class of CSR (how to make profit without being kitten about it) and think of alternatives to soy, oil etc, for example.

If it's not that then what are you talking about? Considering your posts I didn't think you'd be actually interested in the answers smh..it's like seeing Trump recycling his milk lol.

If the answers aren't killing cows, then I'm very interested. 

[Toy Ninja]

I know this guy is just a troll. Not even a good troll. But, for laughs, let’s take a look at some of the stuff he’s said.

Setto Kaiba linked a page on NASA’s site in order to argue against climate change.. He says recent studies show the ice caps are getting bigger. Yet he links only a single page about a single region. NASA is completely unambiguous in its position that recent climate change is real, global, anomalous, and human caused. The 2015 NASA article Setto linked is about relative mass gains in parts of the Antarctic Ice Sheet. This doesn't contradict global warming at all. The same author, Maria-José Viñas, has written more recently about the record lows of Arctic sea ice. Just this month she wrote an article for NASA. Literally the first sentence states that the earth has been warming over the past several decades. Cherry picking and misconstruing evidence alert!

 

Setto Kaiba also attempted to explain away the demonstrable increase in regional temperatures by saying “that probably because” the nearest star has been cooling. This is stated as a fact, with the only supporting evidence being a story in a newspaper. That story is drawn from a research presentation by mathematician named Valentina Zharkova.. that isn’t even published work. The actual paper Zharkova wrote is purely about a fall in the number of sunspots. It’s not even about total solar irradiance. Let alone the effects which that could theoretically have on the earth’s climate. It’s also worth noting that the Express ran with its own laughable conclusion without actually consulting a single climate scientist. Confirmation bias and scientific illiteracy alert!

 

“They've been trying to call for Climate change for years, constantly putting down dates for when some major catastrophe was supposed to happen,”

Who’s they? Do you mean every member of ever academy of science on the planet? Virtually every single active climate scientist? Conspiracy ideation alert!

 

Those youtube videos are just embarrassing.

The first is an interview with William Happer.. who btw is not a climate scientist. He is former head of a think tank directly funded by fossil fuel organizations including Exxon Mobil and Koch Industries. Happer is current head of a similar group, which has a clearly stated political and economic agenda (not an unbiased, authoritative, or even credible source). The board members of this group are not climate scientists. The group doesn’t produce scientific papers for peer review, or publish their “work” in any credible journal of science. Happer himself has literally been caught using this group to secretly funnel money, and to make paid for “research” on behalf of fossil fuel interests. Happer has written a grand total of one paper on the subject.. which isn’t peer reviewed.. and that was for an organization funded by oil and gas interests – not an academy of science. Oh and the man is also a shill for other oh-so-respectable groups like the “Competitive Enterprise Institute”.. Which denies the effects of second-hand smoke.. Seriously..

 

How about the guy in the next video?

Is Alex Epstein a climate scientist?.. nope. Is he a scientist of anything?.. nope. He’s a blogger.. with a B.A., Philosophy. Epstein’s a former member of “the Ayn Rand Institute,” an organization that was partly funded by Koch Foundations. Epstein is the founder of a group that is notable only for being investigated by Massachusetts Attorney General for fraud (involving Exxon Mobil). Epstein has published articles though!.. err.. in newspapers.. and err not about climate science..

 

So umm, does the guy doing the interviews have any credibility? ..errr no, he’s also just a blogger ..and wouldn’t you know, a died-in-the-wool right wing blogger?.. This is a guy who thinks that homosexuality is caused by childhood sexual abuse, and that mental illnesses aren’t real.

 

lol

Edited by Toy Ninja, 18 March 2017 - 12:42 PM.

[T XD]

Firstly, ISIS or any terrorist that call themselves Muslims aren't Muslims at all cause no religion in the world tells to kill people cause of different religions and / or what you follow in a specific religion.

 

Secondly, the families and friends of any person in a terrorist organization, most of them don't know they got affiliated in these organizations. The people who go to these terrorist organizations goes missing suddenly cause probably they know they will stopped. Also, some of them goes to these organizations cause of poverty and having nothing to support them. Not to mention, people who aren't conscious and those who are conscious of having psychological disorder/s in these organizations.

 

If the answers aren't killing cows, then I'm very interested. 

Dude, there are many ways to prevent climate change negatively caused by humans. We all know about the historic ice age and been changed by climate during history, but the layers of the Earth's atmosphere is damaged and is full of harmful chemicals caused by humans starting somewhat from the mid 90's.

 

These negative affections in the layers of the Earth's atmosphere are causing diseases and newly discovered illnesses especially skin diseases.

Earth is a living globe. It has limits. Not just the humans make negative effects on the atmosphere, but also the negative impact on the environment is affecting the Earth negatively.

Cause of these damages, Earth is reacting negatively on the beings on it and towards itself. Also, the increased rates of tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, the hotness of weather and the lateness of winter seasons in 4 seasons climate regions are caused by the negative effects on Earth's climate.

 

Skin cancer is one of the high increasing rates during the last few decades cause the layer, I forgot the names of the layers which is why I'm saying ' the layer ', that protects us from the sun's radiation is damaged, and some of these radiations are entering causing this disease.

 

Just in case and no offense, you don't have to admit that you were wrong, but know more how climate change is happening then discuss without posting YouTube videos.

Edited by T XD, 18 March 2017 - 09:08 PM.

[Hanabi]

Dude, there are many ways to prevent climate change negatively caused by humans. We all know about the historic ice age and been changed by climate during history, but the layers of the Earth's atmosphere is damaged and is full of negative chemicals caused by humans starting somewhat from the mid 90's.

 

it happened since ancient rome

Edited by Hanabi, 18 March 2017 - 02:37 PM.