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#30641 Nostradamus

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Posted 17 February 2023 - 12:05 AM

 

I rather redo the whole Ninja War arc starting from the end of the Pain Arc. The whole situation, (exclude Naruto meeting Kushina) was a hot mess that even affected the hyped Naruto Vs. Sasuke Part 2 fight. Do a number of changes and do it ala Mortal Kombat 9's plot (without majority of the good guys died at the end).

Yeah let's be honest the best way would be to erase that garbage. That would be best for the story, but I just don't see them ever going that route. Taking the shortcut is easier and costs less.

I'm not familiar with Mortal Kombat 9, last Mortal Kombat game I played Mortal Kombat 2 on the Sega Genesis Model 2. God I'm old. Although granted my uncle bought it for me after it released.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 17 February 2023 - 12:21 AM

Yeah let's be honest the best way would be to erase that garbage. That would be best for the story, but I just don't see them ever going that route. Taking the shortcut is easier and costs less.

I'm not familiar with Mortal Kombat 9, last Mortal Kombat game I played Mortal Kombat 2 on the Sega Genesis Model 2. God I'm old. Although granted my uncle bought it for me after it released.

Its the one where Raiden sends a vague message to his past self which leads to the death of most of the cast as he keeps guessing what the message was about, but it did reset the world...I think they then reset the world again in 11.

 

The easiest reboot would just to ignore the Last and make minor changes to the final fight and post where NS happen. Fine but for all the years waiting not very juicy and not going to make much money.



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Posted 17 February 2023 - 04:17 PM

Isn't Ash still like 10 years old? That'd be one hell of a jump. 

Not really he's been in a coma since the first episode. :D


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 17 February 2023 - 05:20 PM

Its the one where Raiden sends a vague message to his past self which leads to the death of most of the cast as he keeps guessing what the message was about, but it did reset the world...I think they then reset the world again in 11.

 

The easiest reboot would just to ignore the Last and make minor changes to the final fight and post where NS happen. Fine but for all the years waiting not very juicy and not going to make much money.

 

Though in MK11, it's hinted Raiden was manipulated by Kronika, who had been reseting the timeline to make the "perfect" timeline and ensuring she would be unopposed in a lot of ways too.

 

Of course, I am not sure where a good divergent could be for a reboot or parallel universe, with a simple one being what I've done in my fanfic where that first battle Naruto and Sasuke had in the Final Valley was different as well as the past being different in many ways. 



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Posted 18 February 2023 - 03:35 AM

The smart move the way I see it is to end Boruto in whatever way doesn't really matter, leave it for some years in order for people to not have as strong feelings towards it as they do now, to forgot a little bit about it. Then announce a movie. I say a movie because they need something big and also small enough to get people hyped for it. Coming out with a manga or anime continuation won't have the same effect. Plus I've always believed that the best way is to redo the Naruto vs Sasuke fight. Why that point? Well because no one will ever reboot the whole series or start somewhere at the halfway point. That's just too much to erase. But mainly because having a fight especially a good animated one on the big screen with those two will be the big thing that they need.

 

 

I agree that ending Boruto first before ever considering a reboot is essential. As for leaving it for a couple of years, that always depend on how desperate they are to try to make money again out of this franchise I guess. I would agree however that waiting for a little while would be the best choice, not letting the Boruto mess affect the reboot too much.

 

As for the reboot itself, I agree that they could easily take the option of just making small changes at the end of Naruto like no Kaguya and the last 2-3 chapters, for example. They could also make more changes after Pain arc, change some chapters here and there like Neiji's dying for the sake of having a NH moment, if they decide to make the reboot a NS ending, for example. For both options, It would be lasy on their part but that wouldn't be the first time we see them cutting the corner short however, that wouldn't be the smartest choice in my opinion. Like Derock said, redo after the whole Ninja War arc from the end of Pain Arc (outside Naruto meeting Kushina) because yeah, the whole thing was a big mess in many aspects. It would require a lot more from them but it's not impossible if they really want to make something worth bring real money.

 

The only thing after Pain that was great was Naruto meeting his mother because we finally were able to have more of the main character backstory. It was still a little annoying to have some Uchiha in this but at least, we got more about Naruto, which was really refreshing. So yeah, one of the changes that would be great is more about Naruto's background, his growth to become a real leader making hard choices and being a real model to the world and not just by making childish talk no jutsu. I also think that making Naruto realize that while saving Sasuke is important, it isn't and shouldn't be is main focus at least, not after confronting Pain. While dealing with Sasuke is part of dealing of the whole circle of hatred theme, it isn't the only way for Naruto to deal with this problem either. 

 

About Naruto's lineage, another thing that should be adressed more is Karin being an Uzumaki. Not only because she's underdeveloped (and the developement happen way too late in the story) but again, it's another part of the main character's story that never happen, which was a real shame in my opinion. Make her interact at some point with Naruto or giving her detail about her power, the same as Kushina has, for example. 

 

Another change would be of course, to make Sakura more relevant. Kishimoto was way too subtle with her developement before Pain, which resulted in making her being hated/misunderstood alot. While I agree that Kishimoto isn't the best when developping his female characters, he did show that he can do it, when he has proper guidance like with his first editor. Again, it's not about giving her lots of spotlight but meaningful developement here and there and not just making her part of the team 7 reunion in the war only to make her stand aside, like Kishimoto did. Make her team up with anyone or even take the lead to face one foe again, not just being a medical med nin in the background. Another idea would be to make her actually helping Naruto dealing with Sasuke, like she promised him to do, deal with him together. Not to say that she has to be there for all the fight but she doesn't have to be excluded either.

 

 

There are so many things that could be done that yeah, would require lots of work but would be in the long run, a much better way to give a more worthy ending to the original story.


Edited by Serenity Namikaze, 20 February 2023 - 04:36 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2023 - 11:03 PM

Oh boy, Ultimate Ninja Storm is back with the Boruto BS, called Storm Connections.


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Posted 23 February 2023 - 11:19 PM

I would agree that if we swapped Sakura out with Hinata, and left everything else the same, Boruto would still be in dire straits right now.

It might even be in a worse spot as you would be trading two big shipping fandoms for just one.

That's why I expect we will never ever get a reboot, alternate ending, etc. Not in a million years will that happen because it probably isn't even a thought in anyone's mind that the ending and Boruto was a mistake.

If Boruto ends up being cancelled that will be the end of it and we will get nothing of it, same as it is now.

 

Again I personally would not get behind supporting Boruto either if he is still the same spoiled entitled brat he is now "but Sakura is the mother" I seriously doubt anyone here would want that no matter how much they supported Naruto and Sakura's relationship but I'll let everyone speak for themselves.

 

In any case let's not pretend here, the main issue on why Boruto is failing  has more to do with driving away and pissing off the original fanbase that supported Naruto throughout the years more than an unsympathetic, bratty main character or not focusing on the original cast, I feel. I mean really the problems only really started with sales when that fallacious travesty of a movie called "The Last" was made and fans that were forced to watch it gave word to mouth to other fans to not waste their money on it. True it may not be purely fact and most of it is really anecdotal accounts, but the numbers afterwards speak for themselves. Let's not forget that while fans may be divided on manga and anime at any given time be it story views of the creator etc. etc., for the most part they are loyal consumers as shown with many other manga or anime, but Naruto just PLUMMETED. Back to "The Last", It was not a Naruto movie that would give fans satisfaction, It was a sellout romance movie that haphazardly explained how Naruto and Hinata married out of left field to make up for the lack of development they had in the manga and I will say a million times more, the fact that the movie even exists shows that Naruto had no way in hell to return Hinata's feelings otherwise if we go by the flow of the manga. Side note, but for ANYONE at all that argues Naruto is not a romance manga I ask you, "So why does this movie exist then"?  :mellow:


Edited by Phantom_999, 19 June 2023 - 06:39 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2023 - 12:43 AM

Oh boy, Ultimate Ninja Storm is back with the Boruto BS, called Storm Connections.

Funny enoug was just about to post this video on it

https://youtu.be/UqJgPGT99Wg

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 24 February 2023 - 12:43 AM.


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Posted 24 February 2023 - 01:39 AM

 

Oh boy, Ultimate Ninja Storm is back with the Boruto BS, called Storm Connections.

Funny enough was just about to post this video on it

https://youtu.be/UqJgPGT99Wg

Top Comment: "So basically you took Ninja Storm Legacy, put it into one game and added Indra and Ashura as 2 new characters and call it a new game."

 

From the trailer, its mainly Naruto focus with Boruto attached. 

 

 

Again I personally would not get behind supporting Boruto either if he is still the same spoiled entitled brat he is now "but Sakura is the mother" I seriously doubt anyone here would want that no matter how much they supported Naruto and Sakura's relationship but I'll let everyone speak for themselves.

 

In any case let's not pretend here, the main issue on why Boruto is failing  has more to do with driving away and pissing off the original fanbase that supported Naruto throughout the years more than an unsympathetic, bratty main character or not focusing on the original cast, I feel. I mean really the problems only really started with sales when that fallacious travesty of a movie called "The Last" was made and fans that were forced to watch it gave word to mouth to other fans to not waste their money on it. True it may not be purely fact and most of it is really anecdotal accounts, but the numbers afterwards speak for themselves. Let's not forget that while fans may be divided on manga and anime at any given time be it story  views of the creator etc. etc., for the most part they are loyal consumers as shown with many other manga or anime, but Naruto just PLUMMETED. Back to "The Last", It was not a Naruto movie that would give fans satisfaction, It was a sellout romance movie that haphazardly explained how Naruto and Hinata married out of left field to make up for the lack of development they had in the manga and I will say a million times more, the fact that the movie even exists shows that Naruto had no way in hell to return Hinata's feelings otherwise if we go by the flow of the manga. Side note, but for ANYONE at all that argues Naruto is not a romance manga I ask you, "So why does this movie exist then"?  :mellow:

Boruto mainly seems to be Hinata's inability to rein in the family. Boruto would literally not happen because Sakura would be more willing to stamp out the problem.

 

The Last destroyed everything about Naruto to make sure Hinata was not a silver medal.



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Posted 24 February 2023 - 02:25 AM

Oh don't worry, I'm well aware of that, it is only that some here apparently are saying "that is all hypotheticals", so I'm only stating what HAS happened instead of what could have been. It is easy to imagine Sakura reining in the bratty attitude of any child she may have though, and Sarada turned out pretty well despite being from a struggling single mother household but the story doesn't focus on her so, yeah


Edited by Phantom_999, 24 February 2023 - 02:26 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2023 - 01:11 PM

Alright you guys, I'm gonna drop a little golden nugget; courtesies of yours truly  :happy:

 

https://twitter.com/...8783360006?s=20


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Posted 24 February 2023 - 07:26 PM

Alright you guys, I'm gonna drop a little golden nugget; courtesies of yours truly  :happy:

 

https://twitter.com/...8783360006?s=20

 

Saw your post earlier on twitter, can't wait to see  :happy:  :love:



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Posted 25 February 2023 - 04:52 AM

 

Saw your post earlier on twitter, can't wait to see  :happy:  :love:

 

 

It's something I've been meaning to do for a while and I'm finally in that spot to share it with you all again soon  :happy:


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Posted 25 February 2023 - 05:35 AM

Top Comment: "So basically you took Ninja Storm Legacy, put it into one game and added Indra and Ashura as 2 new characters and call it a new game."

 

From the trailer, its mainly Naruto focus with Boruto attached. 

 

Boruto mainly seems to be Hinata's inability to rein in the family. Boruto would literally not happen because Sakura would be more willing to stamp out the problem.

 

The Last destroyed everything about Naruto to make sure Hinata was not a silver medal.

Which was futile because the novelization was released shortly after and blatantly stated in neon lights that she was a rebound. Not helped by Kishimoto admitting that he put Naruto with her out of misplaced pity in an interview(before he invented that "it was always planned" pretext to cover his, Shueisha and Pierrot's collective asses).  


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Posted 25 February 2023 - 04:50 PM

btw my little NaruSaku suprise isn't the only thing I got planned for this upcoming week... 

 

I've also got this planned just one day before: 

 

https://twitter.com/...1070056448?s=20


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Posted 25 February 2023 - 07:09 PM

Top Comment: "So basically you took Ninja Storm Legacy, put it into one game and added Indra and Ashura as 2 new characters and call it a new game."


The Last destroyed everything about Naruto to make sure Hinata was not a silver medal.

Also it has a decent amount of dislikes:

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Granted it's not really that accurate because YT removed the dislikes from the public so in order to get them you have to use an addon to the browser. Which counts the amount of dislikes from all that had the plugin and clicked the dislike button. So the number could be higher.

 

And as for The Last, she will always be the second option. To anyone who bothered following the story and getting their NH blinders off they know very well that Hinata will always be second.

Actually even calling her second is not correct since Naruto never showed any interest in her. No matter how hard they tried with their retcons they can't escape that fact.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 25 February 2023 - 07:39 PM

Also it has a decent amount of dislikes:

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Granted it's not really that accurate because YT removed the dislikes from the public so in order to get them you have to use an addon to the browser. Which counts the amount of dislikes from all that had the plugin and clicked the dislike button. So the number could be higher.

 

And as for The Last, she will always be the second option. To anyone who bothered following the story and getting their NH blinders off they know very well that Hinata will always be second.

Actually even calling her second is not correct since Naruto never showed any interest in her. No matter how hard they tried with their retcons they can't escape that fact.

Well, I know I gave it a downvote.

 

Top Comment: "So basically you took Ninja Storm Legacy, put it into one game and added Indra and Ashura as 2 new characters and call it a new game."

 

From the trailer, its mainly Naruto focus with Boruto attached. 

 

Boruto mainly seems to be Hinata's inability to rein in the family. Boruto would literally not happen because Sakura would be more willing to stamp out the problem.

 

The Last destroyed everything about Naruto to make sure Hinata was not a silver medal.

The funny thing is many thinking Hinata is the best wife in Naruto.



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Posted 25 February 2023 - 11:44 PM

Well, I know I gave it a downvote.

 

The funny thing is many thinking Hinata is the best wife in Naruto.

it's just a report of the legacy games with two characters it's not even worth it i'll stick with the legacy collection i already have

pretty sure most of her fans aren't married or have been with a girl



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Posted 03 March 2023 - 05:03 PM

it's just a report of the legacy games with two characters it's not even worth it i'll stick with the legacy collection i already have

 

Yeah. And it just was upgraded for new generation systems.



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Posted 03 March 2023 - 06:09 PM

What got me that they said Ashura and Indra are super popular...

 

...when the hell they became popular?!


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