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#241 KnS

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:10 PM

Sasgay 

 

Again, please do not call him this.  It is not allowed here.  Thanks.

 

 

It bothers me how much the meaning of the fore head poke has been twisted. Sakura doesn't even know what it really means. 

 

It is quite confusing that it has morphed into the ultimate symbol of love.  

 

It was always my understanding that Itachi had used the forehead poke fondly but also with intentional condescension.  It came across as Itachi's way of sidelining Sasuke, placating him with a promise that he'd spend time with him later -- care about his feelings and issues later -- and that he couldn't be a priority until all of Itachi's important work was done.

 

Kishimoto choosing it to be the "loving" gesture Sasuke expressed to Sakura skewed the meaning it had had up to that point.  Except for the fact that Sakura is obviously not Sasuke's priority, and that he isn't willing to spend any time with her until his important work is done -- whatever that might be.

 

Personally, I interpreted the use of the forehead poke between Sasuke and Sakura at the end of the manga to be a cover for the fact that Sakura's forehead had been sacred to Naruto.  Since it was decided that Naruto would be stuck with the deadly dull Hinata, there had to be a way of making it seem as if Sakura's forehead issues and all that foreshadowing were retconned by Sasuke's gesture.

 

There's also the whole nonsense about the Uchiha loving so much and so deeply that it makes them crazy.  They are all so long-suffering, don't you know?  Maybe we're supposed to believe that Sasuke loves Sakura so much he must keep her at arms' length, lest it tear apart his very soul.   :twitch:

 

Regardless of the sheer stupid factor of it all, I expect SS to be depicted as a justified and solid relationship by the end.  I think it's a mistake to be thinking that it's going to crash and burn.  

 

The fact that it's poorly written, confusing, sloppy, and chock full of ham-fisted attempts at soap opera drama doesn't mean squat.  The damage to the characters and the story was complete in November.

 

This gaiden is just the putrid icing on a rotten cake.



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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:14 PM

Can I call him Sasujerk?

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:25 PM

Nothing shocks me anymore in this manga.


 


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:28 PM

 
Again, please do not call him this.  It is not allowed here.  Thanks.
 
 

 
It is quite confusing that it has morphed into the ultimate symbol of love.  
 
It was always my understanding that Itachi had used the forehead poke fondly but also with intentional condescension.  It came across as Itachi's way of sidelining Sasuke, placating him with a promise that he'd spend time with him later -- care about his feelings and issues later -- and that he couldn't be a priority until all of Itachi's important work was done.
 
Kishimoto choosing it to be the "loving" gesture Sasuke expressed to Sakura skewed the meaning it had had up to that point.  Except for the fact that Sakura is obviously not Sasuke's priority, and that he isn't willing to spend any time with her until his important work is done -- whatever that might be.
 
Personally, I interpreted the use of the forehead poke between Sasuke and Sakura at the end of the manga to be a cover for the fact that Sakura's forehead had been sacred to Naruto.  Since it was decided that Naruto would be stuck with the deadly dull Hinata, there had to be a way of making it seem as if Sakura's forehead issues and all that foreshadowing were retconned by Sasuke's gesture.
 
There's also the whole nonsense about the Uchiha loving so much and so deeply that it makes them crazy.  They are all so long-suffering, don't you know?  Maybe we're supposed to believe that Sasuke loves Sakura so much he must keep her at arms' length, lest it tear apart his very soul.   :twitch:
 
Regardless of the sheer stupid factor of it all, I expect SS to be depicted as a justified and solid relationship by the end.  I think it's a mistake to be thinking that it's going to crash and burn.  
 
The fact that it's poorly written, confusing, sloppy, and chock full of ham-fisted attempts at soap opera drama doesn't mean squat.  The damage to the characters and the story was complete in November.
 
This gaiden is just the putrid icing on a rotten cake.

I agree. Despite the crappy treatment SS is recieving, I dont believe for one second that Sakura will leave Sasuke for Naruto. No chance in hell. The fact that it would end happily for SS was already a forgone conclusion in my opinion

Edited by Namikaze Clan, 18 June 2015 - 07:30 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:34 PM

I think most of us know SS will get some "happy" ending

Just like NH it will be terribly executed and the characterization of both characters will be dragged through the terrible

Edited by Candleguy, 18 June 2015 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:51 PM

lol despite the obvious that there will be a happy SS ending.

I don't know if it's been mentioned before or if I'm the only one thinking of it...

but to me, it's seems so obvious that kishi hates SS. He doesn't even try to make it logical. lol

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:57 PM

i'm pretty much done with naruto.because:

 

1-naruto's a scumbag now

2-sasuke's confusing!

3-sakura's a big giant sasuke-kun fangirl

4-the series as turned into a laughing stock

5- all thats left of the fandom are majority of SS/NH fanbrats', and casual fans' who couldn't care less they just wanna see how it ends! NS is the minority it seems according to the dumb otakus', and kishi

6-SP sucked the life right out of the anime

7-too many retcons', and stuff lishi makes the twilight author Stephanie Meyers look like a GENIUS!

 

and THAT is saying something!. nice going kishijokeamoto YOU killed naruto!

 

*south park reference*

 

stan: oh my god! you killed naruto

kyle: you *BEEP*


Edited by starlitestarbrite, 18 June 2015 - 08:05 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:22 PM

I'm done with Naruto fanbase but not done with NaruSaku fandom. I separate Kishi's version of Naruto with my own headcanon.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:29 PM

Is Naruto so dumb as to actually think the results of that machine were accurate?

 

I mean unless he avoided Sakura and Sasuke so much that he failed to notice Sakura was pregnant....


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:33 PM

Not much to say about this week. Like it's quiet anywhere not pairing thread. Boring. I'll continue reading TG volume 1.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:44 PM

Lol I see what Kishi might set up with that first kiss. Sakura is going to unveil her first (perhaps her only) kiss to Sarada and it be in chapter 3. Only Sasuke will retort, "It wasn't me." :lmao:

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    Wish that Kishi would just stop trying to 'fix' Naruto, I guess that no one ever told him the phrase 'digging your own grave'. I will remember fondly the characters that made me love Naruto that were sacrificed at the all-mighty altar that is money (and crazy fan boys/girls).

Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:48 PM

Lol I see what Kishi might set up with that first kiss. Sakura is going to unveil her first (perhaps her only) kiss to Sarada and it be in chapter 3. Only Sasuke will retort, "It wasn't me." :lmao:

which would be the biggest troll job of all time, even more so than the final two chapters of the manga. We all would just sit back and watch the world burn all around the SS shippers who would be freaking out insanely. But I'll bet that if Kishi does go that route, Naruto will have told Sasuke what he told Sakura on the bench and Sasuke will act like it was him.



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Posted 18 June 2015 - 08:55 PM

Sasuke's so freaking confusing though. He literally looked like he didn't give one flying kitten that Sakura was taken away a few chapters ago, but now he's over here suddenly proclaiming her as his wife and knows that she can handle the situation? Bruh, make up your mind :hm:

you're asking the same guy who went from "DIE VILLAGE ELDERS" to "THE VILLAGE WILL SUFFER" to "I will become hokage" in the span of not even a year.



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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:02 PM

you're asking the same guy who went from "DIE VILLAGE ELDERS" to "THE VILLAGE WILL SUFFER" to "I will become hokage" in the span of not even a year.

Year? Barely month...



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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:06 PM

Lol I see what Kishi might set up with that first kiss. Sakura is going to unveil her first (perhaps her only) kiss to Sarada and it be in chapter 3. Only Sasuke will retort, "It wasn't me." :lmao:

Why are you so obsessed with this ? 

But i doubt kishi will do this since the whole flashback made kinda a harbinger to sasuke poking sarada's forehead and maybe sakura's also 

I don't gonna be suprised if the first kiss happened during the time-skip since it's confirmed sasuke stayed 1 year in the village



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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:15 PM

you're asking the same guy who went from "DIE VILLAGE ELDERS" to "THE VILLAGE WILL SUFFER" to "I will become hokage" in the span of not even a year.

You're right. I shouldn't expect much from Sasuke in regards to actually being consistent. Sasuke doesn't know what he freaking wants, and it's showing in this clusterf*ck of a series.
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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:17 PM

Why are you so obsessed with this ? 

But i doubt kishi will do this since the whole flashback made kinda a harbinger to sasuke poking sarada's forehead and maybe sakura's also 

I don't gonna be suprised if the first kiss happened during the time-skip since it's confirmed sasuke stayed 1 year in the village

Are you an SS fans? if yes what are you doing here? .This is narusaku fans forum. So ofcourse people here is obsess with narusaku. All your questions and post do nothing except reinforcing and supporting SS.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:21 PM

Are you an SS fans? if yes what are you doing here? .This is narusaku fans forum. So ofcourse people here is obsess with narusaku. All your questions and post do nothing except reinforcing and supporting SS.


Don't even start down this track. Fans of other forums are welcome here.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:24 PM

Are you an SS fans? if yes what are you doing here? .This is narusaku fans forum. So ofcourse people here is obsess with narusaku. All your questions and post do nothing except reinforcing and supporting SS.


Exactly. But a little too harsh.

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 18 June 2015 - 09:25 PM.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:25 PM

Are you an SS fans? if yes what are you doing here? .This is narusaku fans forum. So ofcourse people here is obsess with narusaku. All your questions and post do nothing except reinforcing and supporting SS.

And as many have already said, it's not (solely) about the pairings, but about the writing behind how things have lead up to this point. NH/SS would be fine and acceptable (if disappointing to NS fans) if the writing had actually truly developed and supported them happening, but it didn't. It was all a huge retcon at the last second. The fact that there had to be an entire movie dedicated to "explaining" things (which it didn't even do well either) was already proof of that.


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