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#21 Bryon_Konoha_Ninja

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 07:05 PM

I'm gonna meditate on this until your video is released.
 
 
But I will say this pre-emptively in the case that you have honestly converted.
 
 
If this "social experiment" was little more than a pretext to out yourself as a NaruHina Shipper, then I'm gonna be blunt with you: it was an idiotic, immature and duplicitous way to go about it.  Had you in your original post stated that you had an announcement to make and confessed to your fading interest in NS favor of NaruHina,  there would've been shock and even disappointment, but we would've respected your stance for the most part.  But what you've done has generated unnecessary drama, tension and violation of trust. 
 
It also puts the sincerity of your apologies into question since, assuming you are NaruHina now, you denounced this community and threw it under the bus to "express" your new loyalty for NaruHina, while trying to convince us that NaruSaku still holds a special place in your heart feels disingenuous . And if the former is how you genuinely perceive us and our fanbase, then hell, I'm not sure I can trust what you say at the moment.  I've already seen this type of behavior in another fandom, where an individual on Youtube tried to play mediator between factions of fans and anti-fans of a canon couple in his videos by arguing that the antis didn't have to like the pairing but should be respective of the supporters(who were on the defensive) and not hurl personal insults towards them for what they enjoy because they're all a part of the same fandom. They also spoke favorably of the couple in question in their videos, offering insight and evidence over why it made sense in the context of the series. They primarily marketed themselves as a supporter of the pairing...only for it to be revealed that they were an anti from the beginning, actively mocking and disparaging the shippers on the anti-group they were joined on Facebook and Twitter, and claimed they were only parroting talking points so that he could sucker the shippers into watching his Youtube videos for views.
 
So, I'll tell you, if that is what you're attempting to do now, I will lose a good deal of respect for you because  engaging in that kind of manipulation is abhorrent and goes beyond something as trivial as shipping.


What you said is all of what I've been feeling on this and while I could be better, it just is rough if all of this is part of this.

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 08:15 PM

I actually wonder what you meant by experiment. Were you trying to post NH 20 times a day to get a reaction from NH fans, or from us?

I think its dumb either way, but I wont be personally offended if you just tried to get NH fans attention.

I agree v much w/ Kagomaru.

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 11:47 PM

After I posted, I had wondered the same thing Kagomaru had: If there really was an experiment or if it was the way you intended to explain way or hide the conversion to NH. I think he’s right in that you would have been better served to be straight with everyone from the beginning. I can understand you worrying about people here being upset over the conversion, but if it was that was the case, this shield was going to eventually fall apart one way or another and people were going to find out.

 

If it is an experiment, i stand by what I said. It rubs me wrong but, ultimately, It won’t offend me. However, you should think about the NH fans you interacting with on Twitter and what they would think if they were to find a video about them that sounded like what you wrote about NS on the 19th. I just don’t see this ending well, especially if you value the relationships with the people you are talking too. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re intending when you say experiment, but I’d hate for two fandoms to pissed at you over it this. 

 

As for the posts, I thought the first (19th) and second (25th) came across as insincere. The first because of what you were say on twitter the same day and the second because it was just a copy and paste job from twitter. The third (28th) one sounded sincere and I believe you meant what you said in that post. As I said in my last post, we haven’t interacted much, so I don’t know if it’ll mean much coming from me, but I’m neither mad nor offended and I’m about where phantom is. I bear you no ill will. At this point, all you can do is back up your words with actions that are consistent with what you said. 

 

I also meant what I said before, it does not matter to me if you are a NH fan now. If you like it and it makes you happy, you should enjoy it. You won’t be banned or booted from the forum just for being a NH fan. It’s not a prequisite to being a member. If it were I’d have to ban myself as I fall into the no-shipper category sushi mentioned and even when I still shipped, NS was only 3rd (I still have a big tendency to gravitate to crack ships). 



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Posted 30 May 2022 - 06:38 AM

I'm gonna meditate on this until your video is released.

 

 

But I will say this pre-emptively in the case that you have honestly converted.

 

 

If this "social experiment" was little more than a pretext to out yourself as a NaruHina Shipper, then I'm gonna be blunt with you: it was an idiotic, immature and duplicitous way to go about it.  Had you in your original post stated that you had an announcement to make and confessed to your fading interest in NS in favor of NaruHina,  there would've been shock and even disappointment, but we would've respected your stance for the most part.  But what you've done has generated unnecessary drama, tension and violation of trust. 

 

It also puts the sincerity of your apologies into question since, assuming you are NaruHina now, you denounced this community and threw it under the bus to "express" your new loyalty for NaruHina on Twitter, while trying to convince us that NaruSaku still holds a special place in your heart feels disingenuous . And if the former is how you genuinely perceive us and our fanbase, then hell, I'm not sure I can trust what you say at the moment.  I've already seen this type of behavior in another fandom, where an individual on Youtube tried to play mediator between factions of fans and anti-fans of a canon couple in his videos by arguing that the antis didn't have to like the pairing but should be respective of the supporters(who were on the defensive) and not hurl personal insults towards them for what they enjoy because they're all a part of the same fandom. They also spoke favorably of the couple in question in their videos, offering insight and evidence over why it made sense in the context of the series. They primarily marketed themselves as a supporter of the pairing...only for it to be revealed that they were an anti from the beginning, where they actively mocked and disparaged the shippers on Facebook and Twitter and claimed to the anti-group channels that they were joined on that they were only parroting talking points so that he could sucker the shippers into watching his Youtube videos for views.

 

So, I'll tell you, if that is what you're attempting to do now, I will lose a good deal of respect for you because  engaging in that kind of manipulation is abhorrent and goes beyond something as trivial as shipping. 

 

 

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this Kagomaru you honestly don't know how much it means to me, and I completely agree with everything you said because it's true. 

 

 

The way I approached all of this could've been handled so much better than how I went about it, and it's probably my biggest regret when it came the decision I made on that day. I really needed to be up front about my fading interest in NaruSaku and I felt about growing more closer to NaruHina. 

 

I've already mentioned it before, but I am right to bare the blame on that 100%  My approach was completely inexcusable because even my gut instinct was telling me I should just be honest about it like I've always been.  The people on the forums will understand and respect my decision.

 

At the same time my fear is what got the better of me,  the fear i had when it comes losing all the great connections I've made throughout the years all because my shipping views had been switching from NaruSaku to NaruHina.   <-  I'm not saying this as an excuse, all I'm admitting is my thought process behind everything.

 

 

When it comes to the social experiment,  I didn't go in with the intention of manipulating anyone.  It was all about me just wanting to interact with the NaruHina community, and because I was feeling this conversion I just wanted to know what it was like conversing with them now as someone found more of an appreciation for the NaruHina pairing. 

 

It's also because the last time I had a conversation with The NH fanbase was around the time the last 3 years of Naruto were ongoing, and since  the ending I essentially closed myself off from all forms of communication  just because I was so sick and tired of the constant arguments back and forth between NaruSaku vs NaruHina  especially now with it being 8 years later.. 

 

 

So really it was just a form of a genuine interaction I wanted to have with them and nothing more than that. 

 

 

Which brings me to the posts and replies I made when it came to bashing NaruSaku and throwing the community under the bus,  and truth be told out of all the conversations I had with the NH community that was the one simple thing I altered because I knew everything I mentioned about NaruSaku and the community wasn't true, and it was solely the point of just seeing what my NH mutuals would say and nothing more. 

 

It was  more about me testing my own suspicions about my own views and see if it ended up being true about my own stance.  

 

    

I never wanted to get anybody from the NS community involved which is why I mainly generalized it and not necessarily pointed out at one single individual.  I truly did become lost once I quickly realized that the posts where I bashed NaruSaku and the community was really hurting you guys and I honestly couldn't sleep that night and a couple nights because it was really tough on me. I even felt as if I was on the verge of crying too. 

 

That wasn't how I always looked at things with people. Everything I've said was always through honesty, and I really did notice that I wasn't being me and it really disgusted me the most about myself. What right did I have to say things like that about the community when I knew deep down it wasn't at all. 

 

I know just how this community is and it's filled with wonderful people.  I don't have any right to say the things I said on twitter during that time, and really it was something I needed to set things straight.  The behavior I had displayed was called out and for all the right reasons too and it was something that really needed to be brought to my attention.        

 

 

Which was when I really took into account about my approach on all this, and I truly wanted to give my deepest apologies for NaruSaku and the community because I did notice this was hurting everyone in more ways just as much as it was hurting me on the inside.

 

it was something I needed to come to terms with myself  above all and then genuinely expressing how I've felt about these kind of things with you guys as I have always been. 

 

 

When it comes to the other posts I've made about me liking moments between Naruto and Hinata, my appreciation for Hinata as a character , and the parallels in the story are all my true genuine thoughts about NaruHina on Twitter.      

 

 

The video I have planned is certainly gonna take a little bit of time because outside of this, I've also been doing my best of being extra supportive of my older cousin because his father has lung cancer, and he's been suffering through with this condition for over a year+ now  alongside the passing of my late grandma's passing, and me going through my recovery process from surgery back in November. 

 

But I promise,  I do have something coming for everyone when it comes to that front, along with another video.   

 

 

As for what you've told me about this certain individual who was playing his fanbase just to attract the shippers because of views sighs.... I honestly don't care what kind of person you are, but that is honestly the most disgusting thing I've ever heard about.    As a content creator myself, it makes me sick that some content creators have to put on a facade just because it attracts more views. 

 

That has never been my style at al when it comes to my channel. Everything I make is genuinely because I love to talk about these series and truly share my honest thoughts on the matter. Nothing I've ever mentioned in any of my videos has ever been fake at all. If my mind changes on a certain topic that I covered in the past then you know I'll always give an update on how my views on this are a lot more different than before, and they would be true and honest thoughts.   Nothing like "Oh hey  lets see what can gain more attraction."   

 

 

Like I've said that has never been me, and it will never be me .  I will share my true and honest thoughts about the things I love on my channel and that is a fact. 

 

 

I actually wonder what you meant by experiment. Were you trying to post NH 20 times a day to get a reaction from NH fans, or from us?

I think its dumb either way, but I wont be personally offended if you just tried to get NH fans attention.

I agree v much w/ Kagomaru.

 

Hey Sushi,  

 

No, I wasn't trying to post NH 20 times a day to get a reaction from any of you guys. The experiment was more so for me to just engage in a conversation with the NH community and see if my views line up with theirs. 

 

- with the exception of bashing the NaruSaku community  because I already mentioned that part was a complete lie. 

 

My stance is very much in line with Kagomaru too :)

 

 

After I posted, I had wondered the same thing Kagomaru had: If there really was an experiment or if it was the way you intended to explain way or hide the conversion to NH. I think he’s right in that you would have been better served to be straight with everyone from the beginning. I can understand you worrying about people here being upset over the conversion, but if it was that was the case, this shield was going to eventually fall apart one way or another and people were going to find out.

 

If it is an experiment, i stand by what I said. It rubs me wrong but, ultimately, It won’t offend me. However, you should think about the NH fans you interacting with on Twitter and what they would think if they were to find a video about them that sounded like what you wrote about NS on the 19th. I just don’t see this ending well, especially if you value the relationships with the people you are talking too. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re intending when you say experiment, but I’d hate for two fandoms to pissed at you over it this. 

 

As for the posts, I thought the first (19th) and second (25th) came across as insincere. The first because of what you were say on twitter the same day and the second because it was just a copy and paste job from twitter. The third (28th) one sounded sincere and I believe you meant what you said in that post. As I said in my last post, we haven’t interacted much, so I don’t know if it’ll mean much coming from me, but I’m neither mad nor offended and I’m about where phantom is. I bear you no ill will. At this point, all you can do is back up your words with actions that are consistent with what you said. 

 

I also meant what I said before, it does not matter to me if you are a NH fan now. If you like it and it makes you happy, you should enjoy it. You won’t be banned or booted from the forum just for being a NH fan. It’s not a prequisite to being a member. If it were I’d have to ban myself as I fall into the no-shipper category sushi mentioned and even when I still shipped, NS was only 3rd (I still have a big tendency to gravitate to crack ships). 

 

 

As always Nate, I love hearing your input even though we've interacted less.  I really do feel that I can understand everything you're saying much like what the others have said. 

 

As for the experiment I already went what the whole thing was about, and I hope I was able to explain it well enough.  If things do feel a bit off than do let me know and I can be more clear about it. 

 

 

I do agree with you much like with what I mentioned to Kagomaru in that I should've been more upfront about this whole thing from the beginning, and that was certainly my biggest mistake without  a doubt. 

 

As for me being a NaruHina fan now it really warms my heart knowing that shifting to the other side isn't gonna get me banned, and what matters to me the most is being happy which NaruHina has given me recently,   

 

 

You are also absolutely correct on what it is I have to do which is to back up my words with actions that are consistent with everything I've said , and that is precisely what I am going to do from here on out by being just myself, and showcasing my words though actions.  Which I've already got in mind how  am going to approach this with my true genuine and honest thoughts.  

 

 

It's gonna take sometime given how things are with my uncle and giving all the support I can to my older cousin in being there for him as much as I possibly can, but once i finally get it set you'll know. 

 

 

Once again, it means so much me to reading yours and everyone's replies on here.  :cry:  :love:  :glomp:  :happy:  


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Posted 31 May 2022 - 12:47 AM

You and I never really interacted much and I don't follow you on Twitter so I can only assess the situation based on this thread. It sounds like you handled this transition very immaturely but it also seems you acknowledge this and genuinely want to do better from here on. I don't have any reason to feel betrayed by you, I'm just an outsider on this. I don't even ship NS anymore or have much feelings about Naruto either. But I do still have a fondness for this place because of friends I met here whom I love dearly outside the bounds of this forum.

It really shouldn't matter what you ship in order to be part of this community or continue to have friendships from here. If those friendships really mean anything they'll survive you changing ships. And heck, if you ship NH one day and go back to NS the next, that's not betraying anything, not yourself and not this community. It's just multi-shipping. Ships don't actually matter beyond the enjoyment they give you.

Again, we don't really know each other well, but I wish you all the best with what you're dealing with IRL. You may have made mistakes here, but it sounds like you want to aim to be better and kinder that's all any of us can really do.

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Posted 06 June 2022 - 01:53 AM

You and I never really interacted much and I don't follow you on Twitter so I can only assess the situation based on this thread. It sounds like you handled this transition very immaturely but it also seems you acknowledge this and genuinely want to do better from here on. I don't have any reason to feel betrayed by you, I'm just an outsider on this. I don't even ship NS anymore or have much feelings about Naruto either. But I do still have a fondness for this place because of friends I met here whom I love dearly outside the bounds of this forum.

It really shouldn't matter what you ship in order to be part of this community or continue to have friendships from here. If those friendships really mean anything they'll survive you changing ships. And heck, if you ship NH one day and go back to NS the next, that's not betraying anything, not yourself and not this community. It's just multi-shipping. Ships don't actually matter beyond the enjoyment they give you.

Again, we don't really know each other well, but I wish you all the best with what you're dealing with IRL. You may have made mistakes here, but it sounds like you want to aim to be better and kinder that's all any of us can really do.

 

 

Thank you so much BakeNeko-Chan 

 

 

It really does mean a lot to me reading your message and you are absolutely correct I have fully acknowledged my mistakes and i really want to do better from here on out, and i would still love to maintain the friendships I've made and had with everyone here. 

 

As my promise of a lifetime i will aim to do better from here on out

 

When it comes to the stuff I'm dealing with IRL it's a really tough situation right now for me and my family, but  we're doing our best to press on and just hope for the best for my uncle and whatever it takes to give my cousin all the support he can get when it comes to his dad.  

 

 

 

 

 

I've already made my point with everyone here and I do appreciate all the comments, but there is one spot I haven't mentioned things yet which is my own channel.   I was finally able to take some time and address this topic: 

 


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Posted 06 June 2022 - 10:38 AM

So it's true your a NH fan now. Does that mean we can't do the anniversary podcast anymore

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Posted 06 June 2022 - 11:16 AM

Thank you so much BakeNeko-Chan 
 
 
It really does mean a lot to me reading your message and you are absolutely correct I have fully acknowledged my mistakes and i really want to do better from here on out, and i would still love to maintain the friendships I've made and had with everyone here. 
 
As my promise of a lifetime i will aim to do better from here on out
 
When it comes to the stuff I'm dealing with IRL it's a really tough situation right now for me and my family, but  we're doing our best to press on and just hope for the best for my uncle and whatever it takes to give my cousin all the support he can get when it comes to his dad.  
 
 
 
 
 
I've already made my point with everyone here and I do appreciate all the comments, but there is one spot I haven't mentioned things yet which is my own channel.   I was finally able to take some time and address this topic: 
 

So what going to happen with the anniversary podcasts now is the topic the same and about the bleach podcast

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Posted 06 June 2022 - 11:57 AM

So it's true your a NH fan now. Does that mean we can't do the anniversary podcast anymore

 

 

OF course not, That would be one of the shallowest reasons for me to discontinue them. 

 

 

I still plan on doing more Naruto Anniversary Podcasts from here on out, that isn't gonna change! 

 

So what going to happen with the anniversary podcasts now is the topic the same and about the bleach podcast

 

 

The Anniversary Podcasts are still gonna be happening, and  the topic for the podcast is still gonna be the same too. 

 

 

Same thing goes for the Bleach Anniversary Podcast. 

 

 

 

My views on the ships isn't exactly gonna change much on how I tackle the contents for my channel. 


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Posted 28 June 2022 - 07:06 PM

Considering that I have been making posts again in this place I've decided to rename this thread as Confession (Formally Known as My Final Message to Everyone).... 

 

There is honestly still a lot I need to do to make up for the decisions and comments I've made.  With the my life has been going IRL I honestly don't blame how others here are feeling, and it's gonna take a lot for me to earn back the trust a lot of you had in me. 

 

Each day that has passed by since that day has left me left me feeling empty deep down about all of it.   I'm not writing this down for everyone to pity about how I am feeling. 

 

 

 

At the end of the day, I know what I've done was wrong and  it was a choice that I made.  A stupid decision that could've been easily solved, and I made things more complicated then it needed to be.  That is the honest truth, and nobody needs to shoulder that blame, but me.  I've known that for quite some time now...  

 

Everything i am writing at this moment is coming straight from my heart.

 

 

It's gonna take a lot for me to earn back the trust everyone had on me prior to this, and bridges I may've burnt down with everyone.  I am willing to do whatever it takes to make heal those broken bridges to the best of my ability. 

 

 

They always say, it's a matter of taking the first step towards redemption, and that would be self-reflection. 

 

 

 

 

I am only now taking my first true step towards that path.  

 

 

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 12:31 PM

Considering that I have been making posts again in this place I've decided to rename this thread as Confession (Formally Known as My Final Message to Everyone).... 

 

There is honestly still a lot I need to do to make up for the decisions and comments I've made.  With the my life has been going IRL I honestly don't blame how others here are feeling, and it's gonna take a lot for me to earn back the trust a lot of you had in me. 

 

Each day that has passed by since that day has left me left me feeling empty deep down about all of it.   I'm not writing this down for everyone to pity about how I am feeling. 

 

 

 

At the end of the day, I know what I've done was wrong and  it was a choice that I made.  A stupid decision that could've been easily solved, and I made things more complicated then it needed to be.  That is the honest truth, and nobody needs to shoulder that blame, but me.  I've known that for quite some time now...  

 

Everything i am writing at this moment is coming straight from my heart.

 

 

It's gonna take a lot for me to earn back the trust everyone had on me prior to this, and bridges I may've burnt down with everyone.  I am willing to do whatever it takes to make heal those broken bridges to the best of my ability. 

 

 

They always say, it's a matter of taking the first step towards redemption, and that would be self-reflection. 

 

 

 

 

I am only now taking my first true step towards that path.  

 

 

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you really must like that eren quote 



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Posted 30 June 2022 - 02:07 PM

you really must like that eren quote 

 

 

It's always been one of my favorites, but the quote is something I can relate to more now.

 

 

Outside of the fact, that Eren was one of the best shounen protagonists of the modern gen for me... well prior to the ending of course. 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, I've been meaning to address this, but my update video on me being an NH now was only to address my purpose on switching sides. 

 

There is a whole deeper message I'm gonna address in the video I've been mentioning about.  

 

 

I'll just say in the context of everything it could even transcend beyond the Naruto fandom itself. 

 

 

 

 

When I said at the very beginning of this thread that I've still got that spark of NaruSaku still inside of me,  I meant every single word it.   


Edited by LuckyChi7, 30 June 2022 - 04:21 PM.

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