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[keelgun]

I just want to say sorry ahead of time if this has already been discussed but I didn't see it.

I was watching today's Naruto, and the ending came on and like always I watched that too. If anyone is familiar with the 10th ending it's the one where they are all on the beach.
Well at one point I noticed that Sakura bends down to pick up her hat, writes something in the sand and runs off, and at the end of the vid they show what she wrote being washed away.
Curious as to what she wrote, I searched and found this youtube vid.
Naruto Shippuuden 10th Ending Narusaku Proof
I think this is awesome, and I hope to god that the maker of this vid. was right.
Just wana hear what you guys think, and show you if you haven't seen this.

[Nee-sama]

Well, don't read too much into it. The stuff that happens in the manga outweighs whatever the animators add in at their own discretion. I won't spoil it for you if you are only into the anime, but the latest chapters have been pretty good to our pairing.

[NaruSaku93]

wow.......... i never noticed that at the end! even though the manga is accurate than the anime, i wonder if this means that sakura has finally gotten over her crush over sasuke

[FullmetalNinja25]

I think what was written was already there she just crossed out "Sasuke", anyways its a good find but like Nee-sama said its not in the canon of the Narutoverse so it doesn't mean anything.

[TheVileOne]

I don't get it really.

Is the significance that Sakura CROSSED out Sasuke's name? And did she really cross it out?

[Nee-sama]

My Japanese friend says that the shape in the sand is a "love umbrella", kinda like our heart carved out on the tree with initials in it. Looks to us like Sakura is written in the sand on the right side of the handle and Sasuke is written, then scratched out.
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quoted from our original discussion when the first episode showed this particular ending..

[catsi563]

Were we to attach signifigance to it then yes thats exactly what would happen.

Before the moment where she runs along the beach, she kneels down and is writing somehting in the sand ((the love Umbrella)) and then gets up and runs.

the next thing we see is Sasukes Name crossed out deliberately.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

There is a Chance.. This would be 100% NaruSaku Proof.. Maybe, Sakura crossed Sasuke's Name.. and then she runs towards to Naruto

[keelgun]

Well I do read the manga too, and I know that anime doesn't have to be 100% isn't cannon, but you can't blame me for being happy about this lol. I've seen stuff similar in the video games too, but I always wonder if they need some kindof approval from the 'higher ups' to do stuff like this.

[Seraphic Guardian]

Ah, too bad we can't use this, it's kinda like when NaruHina lovers use fillers. Not the same thing really...

[Freakazoid]

Well it can be easily seen as pro SS or anti SS.

[Orenji]

I dont think its proof at all, just kind of a "Screw you Sasuke." thing.

Hey! Me and Sakura have the same swimsuit!

[Xabsol]

Look, I don't think it really links to any pairings, it's probably just Sakura realising Sasuke is GONE.
It could be a sign towards any saku and sasu anyway.

[jworks]

Well, don't read too much into it. The stuff that happens in the manga outweighs whatever the animators add in at their own discretion. I won't spoil it for you if you are only into the anime, but the latest chapters have been pretty good to our pairing.

Animators add nothing at their own discretion. it all comes down a line of authority, starting at kishimoto himself and his advisors.

i don't think its saying anything pro narusaku, but its definately anti-sasusaku. which yes, opens the doors to narusaku, but does not promote it directly.

[Nee-sama]

^ Is that so? I've heard over and over again that Kishi is completely uninvolved with the anime. If you know this for a fact, can you please provide a source? I don't mean to doubt you, but this has always been a big question in my mind.

[Freakazoid]

Animators can pretty much do whatever they want. They could totally change the storyline around if they felt like it.

[jworks]

I'm the source, i can't provide you with anything else but experience, its understandable if you think otherwise and are not persuaded by what i have to say. being someone in this business, i have some authority on the subject, maybe not much seeing as how every case is different and japan and its business culture vary quite a bit from the one i am familiar with. they are, legally, kishimoto's characters and story, making it against the law to do anything official with them without review and consent of the owner (though this may not always be the actual creator, but in this case it could be the publisher for naruto). the project directors and especially the animators sitting at their computers do only what is approved by those who own the copyright. and you guys may be right that kishimoto has nothing to do with the anime, depending on his agreement with his publishers, but i stress that the animators (i am assuming you mean the higher ups that direct the workers actually animating) cannot do whatever they want. though they may be given certain freedoms with the opening and ending sequences.

thank you nee-sama for disagreeing with such grace.

[*Mars*]

wow! i never noticed that!!!
it dosen't mean anything to me, since it isn't in the manga, but the animators are on our side

[deafdrum]

I dunno...even though this was just a scene in the anime ending credits, I still think it bears some significance.

The reason I think so is this: even though anime is technically not canon as is the manga, it is an adaptation of canon, and as such, cannot contradict canon. For example, you will never see a filler arc where a primary recurring character is killed off, especially if they are still alive during future events in the manga. Filler story arcs are designed so that they can logically occur alongside the events that transpire in the manga without actually altering them.

Since the perception of time in most manga is pretty loosely defined (you can't always tell how much time was supposed to transpire between panels 4 and 5 of chapter 234, page 7, just to throw random numbers out there), the anime producers can take creative liberties and craft stories that take place between those supposed gaps, hence the term, "filler." However, there are certain elements of manga that are more clearly defined, and as such the producers cannot take as much liberty with those elements. The example I gave earlier with killing off characters is one such element, and I believe pairings could also be considered one of those elements.

In this case, it is hard for me to accept the "love umbrella" scene in the end credits as mere non-canon "filler." The manga has already addressed Sakura's feelings toward Sasuke and defined it as "love." The ending credits scene seemed to have deliberately contradicted this definition, which as I've already stated, I don't believe can happen, at least with the Naruto anime and manga. So, this only leaves two options: A) my interpretation of the anime scene is incorrect and thus does not contradict the manga, or B) the manga will eventually confirm that Sakura's feelings toward Sasuke have indeed changed, thus the anime scene does not contradict the manga.

As much as I would like option B to be the case, I still don't know if such a thing is possible given the relationship between the producers of the manga and the producers of the anime. However, I would like to believe there is at least some connection, because the anime producers should have to consult with the manga producers to make sure that any filler material they come up with doesn't somehow contradict something that might become canon later in the manga. I don't know if Kishimoto himself would be involved in such a meeting, or if such a meeting even exists, but it does seem reasonable given the structure we've seen in anime filler.

If my beliefs end up being justified, then we might see more confirmation that Sakura's feelings toward Sasuke have changed later in the manga, but as of now, this is mostly just speculation. It's not bad to speculate though .

[Strangelove]

Just because she crossed out her previous bf name, doesn't mean is all of a sudden a NaruSaku...lol