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[DrK]

I think if they were both bloodlusted then Hinata wins with high difficulty. Because while they both lack feats Hinata has a background of taijutsu training while Sakura has a background of reading books. But if it actually happened Hinata would hardly put up a fight. Because her character flaws aren't relevant in the fight and Hinata's are incredibly relevant. Sakura is a lot stronger mentally which is why Naruto liked her and why he never liked Hinata.

[rocci]

@halfdemoninuyasha
You want to know why you bring Hinata character weakness? because you know sakura Will not win again Hinata thus you need to bring that to make sakura win the fight again Hinata. You ignore what gentle fist can do and what byakugan can do.
Just said that sakura Will win no matter what. That's a typical fanboy response just like Hinata fanboy.

No, Lee Will win again Neji with gate, i said that in the previous post.
No, that statement doesn't work in part 1 sakura but work in part 2.

Better have more Jutsu than nothing. That's what sakura vs Ino fight show Or do you want sakura to not learn any Jutsu for the entire manga? Because byakugan counter them.
Bushin no Jutsu is not kage bushin so a byakugan user can see it.
Kawarimi is also counterable by byakugan since it can see where Will land so sakura trick again sound three Will not work.
And what is sakura counter to gentle fist who deal internal damage?
Does sakura has fighting style like rock Lee or Kiba?
Does sakura has speciality like tenten?
Does sakura has a Jutsu that offensive, defensive, or supportive?


I told you before if sakura has jutsu (not basic Jutsu), she Will the fight. That's why sakura always win in part 2 and i Will defend her for that.

@ultranx
That's what i mean, but typo. In the manga she learn healing Jutsu after she ask to be Tsunade appearantice. Or more precisely right after Naruto leave hospital.

@vanitas
I just compare sakura and maka character and role in their respective manga. Wow she can do that? I don't really since i only remember Marie Mjolnir effect.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

@halfdemoninuyasha
You want to know why you bring Hinata character weakness? because you know sakura Will not win again Hinata thus you need to bring that to make sakura win the fight again Hinata. You ignore what gentle fist can do and what byakugan can do.
Just said that sakura Will win no matter what. That's a typical fanboy response just like Hinata fanboy.

No, Lee Will win again Neji with gate, i said that in the previous post.
No, that statement doesn't work in part 1 sakura but work in part 2.

Better have more Jutsu than nothing. That's what sakura vs Ino fight show Or do you want sakura to not learn any Jutsu for the entire manga? Because byakugan counter them.
Bushin no Jutsu is not kage bushin so a byakugan user can see it.
Kawarimi is also counterable by byakugan since it can see where Will land so sakura trick again sound three Will not work.
And what is sakura counter to gentle fist who deal internal damage?
Does sakura has fighting style like rock Lee or Kiba?
Does sakura has speciality like tenten?
Does sakura has a Jutsu that offensive, defensive, or supportive?


I told you before if sakura has jutsu (not basic Jutsu), she Will the fight. That's why sakura always win in part 2 and i Will defend her for that.

@ultranx
That's what i mean, but typo. In the manga she learn healing Jutsu after she ask to be Tsunade appearantice. Or more precisely right after Naruto leave hospital.

@vanitas
I just compare sakura and maka character and role in their respective manga. Wow she can do that? I don't really since i only remember Marie Mjolnir effect.

1.) I know what the Byakugan and Jyuken can do. The problem here is that you're assuming Hinatatas will just instantly start using them and fight at full strength from the get go while, once again, ignoring relevant personal psychological factors that would end up being detrimental to her if she were to face Sakura, even in the Chunin Exams. As mentioned before, battles are just as much, if not more psychological as they are physical and while Hinatatas may have outclassed Sakura in the physical department, Sakura is vastly superior in the psychological department and that matters.

2.) Calling me a Sakura fanboy just because I'm bringing in ALL of the factors that should be considered instead of just assuming "bloodline = auto-win" like you? Try looking in a mirror before calling someone a fanboy when you sound FAR more like a hypocritical Hinatatas fanboy with your line of thinking on this topic. I'm trying to look at the fight from EACH side while you are ONLY looking at it on Hinatatas' side and ignoring her flaws and yet constantly try to bring up Sakura's. I'm not saying bloodline isn't something to be considered, but it's not the end all of a battle either.

3.) Where did I EVER say that Sakura would even win, much less "no matter what"? Now you're resorting to putting words in my mouth; further sign that you have no actual facts to back up your claims. All I've done is point out how you're greatly overestimating Hinatatas while underestimating Sakura. I never once said that Sakura would definitely win though. I'm still going over all the factors to be considered rather than just instantly jumping to conclusions based on bloodline like only the narrow-minded do.
 

[VanitasDS76491]

@halfdemoninuyasha
You want to know why you bring Hinata character weakness? because you know sakura Will not win again Hinata thus you need to bring that to make sakura win the fight again Hinata. You ignore what gentle fist can do and what byakugan can do.
Just said that sakura Will win no matter what. That's a typical fanboy response just like Hinata fanboy.
No, Lee Will win again Neji with gate, i said that in the previous post.
No, that statement doesn't work in part 1 sakura but work in part 2.
Better have more Jutsu than nothing. That's what sakura vs Ino fight show Or do you want sakura to not learn any Jutsu for the entire manga? Because byakugan counter them.
Bushin no Jutsu is not kage bushin so a byakugan user can see it.
Kawarimi is also counterable by byakugan since it can see where Will land so sakura trick again sound three Will not work.
And what is sakura counter to gentle fist who deal internal damage?
Does sakura has fighting style like rock Lee or Kiba?
Does sakura has speciality like tenten?
Does sakura has a Jutsu that offensive, defensive, or supportive?
I told you before if sakura has jutsu (not basic Jutsu), she Will the fight. That's why sakura always win in part 2 and i Will defend her for that.
@ultranx
That's what i mean, but typo. In the manga she learn healing Jutsu after she ask to be Tsunade appearantice. Or more precisely right after Naruto leave hospital.
@vanitas
I just compare sakura and maka character and role in their respective manga. Wow she can do that? I don't really since i only remember Marie Mjolnir effect.

Mira has takeover magic meaning she can take over a demons souls and make it part of her like she did to a member of tartartos. Also does hinata gentle fist work on anyone or just those with charka cause against someone with out charka she has no chance?

[Yyubie]

I think someone try to take Analyzer's mantle.

[rocci]

Mira has takeover magic meaning she can take over a demons souls and make it part of her like she did to a member of tartartos. Also does hinata gentle fist work on anyone or just those with charka cause against someone with out charka she has no chance?

Oh sorry i thought you said Mira from soul Eater.
Mira in fairy tail is a shape shifter. She's strong character, as strong as erza without the plot armor lol.

There are two product of gentle fist. One who deal internal damage, this is the most common attack utilize by a Hyuga.
The other is the one who close tenketsu. Tenketsu is a spot where chakra come out to other body. This is and advance technique since not every Hyuga can do that. Hinata can't close tenketsu in part 1 nor does i think she can do that too in part 2. Hyuga fighting style doesn't work if you fight someone with long range attack, faster, and or have "iron" skin.

Hyuga is hype in part 1 but they are not strong. Their fan think they're the strongest when in reality they are not.

@halfdemoninuyasa
Let's agree to disagree since i don't think both of US Will find agreement.

[VanitasDS76491]

Oh sorry i thought you said Mira from soul Eater.
Mira in fairy tail is a shape shifter. She's strong character, as strong as erza without the plot armor lol.
There are two product of gentle fist. One who deal internal damage, this is the most common attack utilize by a Hyuga.
The other is the one who close tenketsu. Tenketsu is a spot where chakra come out to other body. This is and advance technique since not every Hyuga can do that. Hinata can't close tenketsu in part 1 nor does i think she can do that too in part 2. Hyuga fighting style doesn't work if you fight someone with long range attack, faster, and or have "iron" skin.
Hyuga is hype in part 1 but they are not strong. Their fan think they're the strongest when in reality they are not.
@halfdemoninuyasa
Let's agree to disagree since i don't think both of US Will find agreement.

Yes so if Mira fought hinata she'd give her an epic beat down since Mira is not to be kittened with as fried found out and that's her base Satan soul she has two others that are stronger like sitiri.
I like Mira form fairy tail better than Maka from soul eater.
But if someone doesn't have Chakra it wouldn't work on them right like say yang from rwby or ruby rose.

[LuckyChi7]

My cousin stumbled across this and texted me father like son & like mother  like daughter: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and my reply was that's funny and frustrating.  

Edited by LuckyChi7, 19 May 2018 - 12:53 AM.

[jak123]

My cousin stumbled across this and texted me father like son & like mother  like daughter: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and my reply was that's funny and frustrating.  

Sarada and Boruto would be more interesting if Sarada was Karin's daughter so they could bond over that Uzumaki connection.

[DrK]

Sarada and Boruto would be more interesting if Sarada was Karin's daughter so they could bond over that Uzumaki connection.

It would be more interesting if the show was worth watching. It is hard to ship something when you aren't even interested in following it.

[Phantom_999]

My cousin stumbled across this and texted me father like son & like mother  like daughter: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and my reply was that's funny and frustrating.  

 

More hypocrisy, more double standards....... *yawn* Well, I'll only shut up about this hypocrisy WHEN Boruto has his development with Sarada flushed down the toilet and gets it on with "Sumi-nata" just like their parents because Sarada is a scary, abusive b!#%&

Edited by Phantom_999, 21 May 2018 - 10:43 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

More hypocrisy, more double standards....... *yawn* Well, I'll only shut up about this hypocrisy WHEN Boruto has his development with Sarada flushed down the toilet and gets it on with "Sumi-nata" just like there parensts because Sarada is a scary, abusive b!#%&

 

It's all Studio Pierrot has now; it';s the only way to help "save" Boruto, even if it feels like a lost cause considering it's something of their own creation for their greed to ruin the story of Naruto by basically "demanding" what we got, so they can eat me for all I can XP

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

It would be more interesting if the show was worth watching. It is hard to ship something when you aren't even interested in following it.

And the few times I read a summary about an episode, it was just copy/pasting part one events essentially.

[Phantom_999]

 

It's all Studio Pierrot has now; it';s the only way to help "save" Boruto, even if it feels like a lost cause considering it's something of their own creation for their greed to ruin the story of Naruto by basically "demanding" what we got, so they can eat me for all I can XP

 

YUP make BowlSalad canon for all I care, It won't bring US back to the franchise and shows the hypocrisy of your actions and words. Hinata was never Naruto's perfect soul mate, you throttled her into the position at the cost of the writing integrity of the story, character development and themes, so just lay in the trash that you made be cause no true fan of Naruto will EVER Forgive you  

Edited by Phantom_999, 15 June 2018 - 06:42 PM.

[hisaberpie]

You know, this might be an unpopular opinion but I think narusaku may have become a red herring after the hug scene at the end of the pain arc. Because after that moment sakura made nothing but mistakes and dwindled back to becoming a sasuke fan girl whilst naruto slowly turned into a jerk. It was hinatas idiotic confession that started this pairing war in the first place so the editors probably advised kishimoto to start drawing out the conclusion to this romantic subplot till the very end. And later decided to end it with NH anyways.

 

The two big NS moments during the war arc, the CPR scene and the minakushi parallel feel like nothing but bait to me now. Kishimoto most definately did plan NS as end game but I am certain that that changed after the pain arc. Hence, we have the land of iron confession fiasco and nejis forced death.

 

It would have been a near perfect ending if Kishimoto had decided to end the series after the pain arc. Naruto becomes the beloved hero of the village and gets accepted by the girl of his dreams.

[jak123]

You know, this might be an unpopular opinion but I think narusaku may have become a red herring after the hug scene at the end of the pain arc. Because after that moment sakura made nothing but mistakes and dwindled back to becoming a sasuke fan girl whilst naruto slowly turned into a jerk. It was hinatas idiotic confession that started this pairing war in the first place so the editors probably advised kishimoto to start drawing out the conclusion to this romantic subplot till the very end. And later decided to end it with NH anyways.

 

The two big NS moments during the war arc, the CPR scene and the minakushi parallel feel like nothing but bait to me now. Kishimoto most definately did plan NS as end game but I am certain that that changed after the pain arc. Hence, we have the land of iron confession fiasco and nejis forced death.

 

It would have been a near perfect ending if Kishimoto had decided to end the series after the pain arc. Naruto becomes the beloved hero of the village and gets accepted by the girl of his dreams.

Didn't the comparison of Kushina and Sakura happen after the Pain arc?

[hisaberpie]

Didn't the comparison of Kushina and Sakura happen after the Pain arc?

Yes, thats why I believe that the kushina comparison was bait to keep us NS fans interested till the very end.

[Kagomaru]

I doubt it was planned since the conclusion of the Pain arc because Kishimoto's interviews contradict the notion.  For instance, him insisting that the confession that Sakura gave Naruto was genuine, or how he tended to diminished Hinata at times (openly questioning her popularity), and the fact that his writing staff (including his wife) were shocked at his decision to make Naruto and Hinata a canon couple like the rest of us.   Everything about the situation screams "last minute".  And if the plot was to play to both fanbases, you would think that he would've slipped in more scenes of Naruto and Hinata prior to the war(like actually having Naruto go visit Hinata at the hospital after the fight with Pain).

[DrK]

I don't see why anyone would even care about that distinction. The Pain arc is way too late in terms of all the character development that already happened. And to use the MC's dead mother to create a red herring would just be despicable. But for what it's worth I don't feel like it's likely because of what Kagomaru said.

[LuckyChi7]

You know the thing that would drive me nuts is somehow and it wouldn't surprise me, but Boruto meets his grandmother and for a moment he just thinks of Sarada like OMG I'd be sitting be sitting their going like "Oh yeah for Naruto it's a red herring, but it's totally fine for Boruto to end up with someone like Kushina. Yeah okay that makes complete sense am I right?