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[Nate River]

In Kishi's way? Of course she does no matter what he does. Because she loves him, according to the best author. 

Yep.

It's Naruto. What else would we expect?

I think sushi is on point. Would the feelings disappear? Over time sure, but their existence shouldn't be confused with a desire to still be with him or a willingness to forgive him.....what the hell am I saying? Mass murder and world war were hand waved away. Why would this be any different? It would be different if characters were taken more seriously, but well...you all saw how often that happened.

[Ryriena]

Nate, I agree in the hands of a better writer she would grow up but Kishimoto favoritism will always outway his storytelling. Heck, in my rewrite, I gave Sakura a more fleshed out personality and background, in which, she became a real person to me.

I got a lot of help from this site to flesh out her character better along with Ino's characteristics traits and dreams. I also fleshed out Naruto character traits a lot better have them not revolve around Sasuke. I also got rid of Sasuke leaving the village, as I though that was stupid, since it only hindered his redemption mute in the end. He is a horrible person that could be classified as a psychopath to me and they never change. I think once he is with his teammates over time he mellows out and becomes more social. This would fit with a redemption theme.

[Broken Figurine]

I want to think that if Sasuke killed Naruto, that would always be the line crossed and even Kishimoto wouldn't make Sakura still love/be with him. I want to think if Sasuke killed Sakura, that would be a line crossed and Naruto wouldn't forgive Sasuke. I want to think--but the manga is really strange about the issue of Sasuke and as we've seen with the ending, part of me worries that my two favourite characters would always  fault in that matter.

[Pix]

I'm sorry, what kind of question is this? 

 

Sasuke literally threatened to kill her entire village- including her mother and father; threatened to kill Tsunade; threatened to kill the bijuus; tried to kill her once; left her to die twice; threatened to kill Kakashi and then left him to die; and then tried to kill Naruto- twice.  

 

But yet here we are, in a world where Sarada still exists.  

[Moon_Girl]

I'm sorry, what kind of question is this? 

 

Sasuke literally threatened to kill her entire village- including her mother and father; threatened to kill Tsunade; threatened to kill the bijuus; tried to kill her once; left her to die twice; threatened to kill Kakashi and then left him to die; and then tried to kill Naruto- twice.  

 

But yet here we are, in a world where Sarada still exists.  

 

Pretty much this.

After all, if Sasuke did kill Naruto, she'd still be a horrible woman if she tried to move on from him. On top of that, girls can never stop loving a guy once they've started. Duh.    Thank you Kishimoto for this beautiful advice and moral of the story.  All the girls in the world will know that if their husband/boyfriend/spouse/whatever is stabbing them in the chest constantly, punching them, shooting them, choking them, hurting them, regardless of physical or emotional abuse, it's only out of pure, beautiful, love~          And that makes it okay. If you leave someone for that, then you're a HORRIBLE woman and shouldn't even be considered a human being. Just a lowly, disgusting animal! 

 

/cranks down sarcasm meter

Edited by Moon_Girl, 22 May 2015 - 08:45 AM.

[goldenarms]

I'm sorry, what kind of question is this? 

 

Sasuke literally threatened to kill her entire village- including her mother and father; threatened to kill Tsunade; threatened to kill the bijuus; tried to kill her once; left her to die twice; threatened to kill Kakashi and then left him to die; and then tried to kill Naruto- twice.  

 

But yet here we are, in a world where Sarada still exists.  

 

That's because Naruto finally got it through Sasuke's skull that attachments did not make one weak, like the way he was so fervently rejecting them.

 

If Naruto had died in the end, Sasuke would still be the same, and, since Sakura was already at her breaking point prior to that moment, she wouldn't be able to reconcile her feelings for someone who remains a monster and extinguished the last hope of redemption. Not to say that she would stop loving him, but Sakura would be unable to express such feelings for Sasuke after he killed the one guy on the planet that could have saved him.

 

In short, she'd be tortured over Sasuke killing Naruto. If he was still weak from fighting Naruto, I think she (with help from Kakashi) would kill him right then and there, putting him down like a rabid dog. Then she'd spend some time being tortured over what she had to do by her feelings, which would present a possible KakaSaku relationship opening. Either that, or she'd become a wandering wino like Tsunade did for a while.

[Pix]

 

That's because Naruto finally got it through Sasuke's skull that attachments did not make one weak, like the way he was so fervently rejecting them.

 

If Naruto had died in the end, Sasuke would still be the same, and, since Sakura was already at her breaking point prior to that moment, she wouldn't be able to reconcile her feelings for someone who remains a monster and extinguished the last hope of redemption. Not to say that she would stop loving him, but Sakura would be unable to express such feelings for Sasuke after he killed the one guy on the planet that could have saved him.

 

In short, she'd be tortured over Sasuke killing Naruto. If he was still weak from fighting Naruto, I think she (with help from Kakashi) would kill him right then and there, putting him down like a rabid dog. Then she'd spend some time being tortured over what she had to do by her feelings, which would present a possible KakaSaku relationship opening. Either that, or she'd become a wandering wino like Tsunade did for a while.

Disagree completely. Sasuke and attachments still don't mix. Like I've said, we live in a world where Sarada exists. And apparently he's never seen his own daughter for over 12 years. What does that say about Sasuke and how he views "attachments"? 

 

And till this day Sakura portrays Stokholm Syndrome and continues to dismiss every thing that Sasuke has done to her and her entire village. He literally threatened to kill everyone that she knows and loves and she still gave birth to his kid.  

 

She would shed one tear. That's possibly it. 

[goldenarms]

Disagree completely. Sasuke and attachments still don't mix. Like I've said, we live in a world where Sarada exists. And apparently he's never seen his own daughter for over 12 years. What does that say about Sasuke and how he views "attachments"? 

 

And till this day Sakura portrays Stokholm Syndrome and continues to dismiss every thing that Sasuke has done to her and her entire village. He literally threatened to kill everyone that she knows and loves and she still gave birth to his kid.  

 

She would shed one tear. That's possibly it. 

 

You neglect that Sasuke is on a top secret mission tracking down a potentially greater threat than Kaguya, of which Sakura was present when he took said mission. And considering how much of a problem Kaguya was, coupled with the nature and secrecy of his mission, it's not like he can just drop in from time to time to check up on his family and stuff. Maybe fire off a hawk or two, just to let Sakura know he's alive and stuff, but not to visit. It's been made abundantly clear the people wouldn't be able to deal with another Kaguya attack.

 

Also, I might be mistaken, but I think Sarada's 10 at the present time, so Sasuke not seeing his child for over twelve years would be forgivable since that's not his child! [Insert NTR comments here]

 

Stockholm Syndrome... I do not think that word means what you think it means. Not to say that Sakura isn't stupid in love, but her basically rewriting her values to match his to make him a non-threat to her life is a stretch. As for Sasuke, let's face it; he was intentionally being an asshat because of his need to break off relations with everyone, as he viewed those bonds with friends and loves as things that hindered him, made him weak. Thanks, Itachi; thanks a lot.

[Pix]

 

You neglect that Sasuke is on a top secret mission tracking down a potentially greater threat than Kaguya, of which Sakura was present when he took said mission. And considering how much of a problem Kaguya was, coupled with the nature and secrecy of his mission, it's not like he can just drop in from time to time to check up on his family and stuff. Maybe fire off a hawk or two, just to let Sakura know he's alive and stuff, but not to visit. It's been made abundantly clear the people wouldn't be able to deal with another Kaguya attack.

 

Also, I might be mistaken, but I think Sarada's 10 at the present time, so Sasuke not seeing his child for over twelve years would be forgivable since that's not his child! [Insert NTR comments here]

 

Stockholm Syndrome... I do not think that word means what you think it means. Not to say that Sakura isn't stupid in love, but her basically rewriting her values to match his to make him a non-threat to her life is a stretch. As for Sasuke, let's face it; he was intentionally being an asshat because of his need to break off relations with everyone, as he viewed those bonds with friends and loves as things that hindered him, made him weak. Thanks, Itachi; thanks a lot.

It depends on how you view it, and I just don't see it that way. 

 

Regardless of this so called special threat, you also have to take into account that for the last 10+ years, Sasuke has found literally nothing to progress this mission. Shin literally threw himself at Sasuke in return. So basically all of this is happening now, and not in the span of 10+ years. This is why him not being able to see his family is still inexcusable. I think it's quite obvious that the mission didn't progress that far, so during that entire time span he couldn't at least send a hawk to Sakura? Or at least text them or call, considering he has a cell phone???  

 

Also, from the recent chapter, we've learned that Naruto and Sasuke became "rusty", meaning that they haven't had an all out battle for a long while. This further drives the point that no other villain has been that important enough for Sasuke to contact his family.  

 

And if they're about to graduate from the academy then Sarada is not ten. More than likely she's twelve. This also alludes to how Naruto first began when Naruto was 12. 

 

And yes, Sakura had a crush on Sasuke before he started to physically abuse her. But after his first killing attempt towards her, and the fact that she's fallen even harder for him since then, her feelings have become eligible enough to be considered as Stockholm Syndrome.

[Toby]

Without Kishimoto's retcons,

Sakura started having feelings for Naruto so if Sasuke killed him, she'd probably feel the same hatred/vengeance Sasuke felt. 

She would either go down the peace-maker path like Naruto after finally understanding true pain, or become an avenger after Sasuke. 

[Aizen-Sama]

Without Kishimoto's retcons,
Sakura started having feelings for Naruto so if Sasuke killed him, she'd probably feel the same hatred/vengeance Sasuke felt. 
She would either go down the peace-maker path like Naruto after finally understanding true pain, or become an avenger after Sasuke. 

If Naruto had killed Sasuke, Sakura's reaction would've been a strange thing indeed. It would have had to been in self-defense if Sakura could forgive him. She'd probably hold it against Naruto forever but I don't think she would've killed him back in revenge. She's not the vengeful type especially towards her loved ones.

[Sarahmint]

She still loved him after he killed Danzo and tried killing his most loyal companion, so....

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Yep. 'Nuff said.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Nate, I agree in the hands of a better writer she would grow up but Kishimoto favoritism will always outway his storytelling. Heck, in my rewrite, I gave Sakura a more fleshed out personality and background, in which, she became a real person to me.

I got a lot of help from this site to flesh out her character better along with Ino's characteristics traits and dreams. I also fleshed out Naruto character traits a lot better have them not revolve around Sasuke. I also got rid of Sasuke leaving the village, as I though that was stupid, since it only hindered his redemption mute in the end. He is a horrible person that could be classified as a psychopath to me and they never change. I think once he is with his teammates over time he mellows out and becomes more social. This would fit with a redemption theme.

 

I know how you feel, Ry. In my own fanfic, I am fleshing out Sakura more, and wanting to also flesh out EVERYONE of the Leaf 11 plus Sasuke as well as Sai and a few others too :) It's all to make a better story, especially too since I got a friend who helped forge the world we made for this story as well as all the differences we have in our universe compared to the canon.

[Pink Chidori]

I think that if Naruto were to have been killed by Sasuke, that would have been the nail in the coffin for any redemption on Sasuke's part Sakura would have hoped for. Sakura would be heartbroken her dear friend was murdered by the man she loved, and I do not think she would continue to hold onto Sasuke as someone she loves. Instead, she'd have to take in all the bad that he has done, most prominently killing someone Sakura knows had done everything he could to bring him back. I do not think she would ever forgive Sasuke for it, because I see Sakura as quite protective of Naruto in her own way. Someone she wishes to protect and help to the best of her ability. She would feel guilty and torn over the fact that she was unable to do so, and I think a resentment of her own feelings for Sasuke would become like a plague in her heart.

Edited by Pink Chidori, 26 July 2015 - 03:09 AM.

[AHK]

I think that if Naruto were to have been killed by Sasuke, that would have been the nail in the coffin for any redemption on Sasuke's part Sakura would have hoped for. Sakura would be heartbroken her dear friend was murdered by the man she loved, and I do not think she would continue to hold onto Sasuke as someone she loves. Instead, she'd have to take in all the bad that he has done, most prominently killing someone Sakura knows had done everything he could to bring him back. I do not think she would ever forgive Sasuke for it, because I see Sakura as quite protective of Naruto in her own way. Someone she wishes to protect and help to the best of her ability. She would feel guilty and torn over the fact that she was unable to do so, and I think a resentment of her own feelings for Sasuke would become like a plague in her heart.

It's more believable that she would have forgotten all about Naruto than for her to not forgive Sasuke for killing Naruto. Sasuke tried to murder her and Naruto many times, tried to kill her friends, her family, her mentor, her teacher, the kages, he is already in part responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, and Sakura didn't care. She wouldn't have cared if Naruto had died, the ending showed that he really didn't mean much to her in the first place. 

[Pink Chidori]

It's more believable that she would have forgotten all about Naruto than for her to not forgive Sasuke for killing Naruto. Sasuke tried to murder her and Naruto many times, tried to kill her friends, her family, her mentor, her teacher, the kages, he is already in part responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, and Sakura didn't care. She wouldn't have cared if Naruto had died, the ending showed that he really didn't mean much to her in the first place. 

You're free to have your own feelings about it, however I do disagree that Sakura would not have cared, or would have forgotten Naruto. I do not believe that is something she would do at all. Sasuke did do many terrible things and all was forgiven on both her and Naruto's end. Though, I think that is because Kishimoto never allowed Sasuke to cross that line and actually do it. He tried (and failed) to murder them both. He threatened the lives of those she cared for. Now obviously I'm not trying to say that him doing those things were not wrong nor justifiable. However, I think that Kishimoto probably found it easier to have Sasuke be forgiven for crimes he almost committed against those who cared for him, rather than having him being forgiven for actually commiting them. Just as I do not believe Naruto would forgive Sasuke for killing Sakura, nor do I believe Sakura would have forgiven Sasuke for killing Naruto. Despite everything Kishimoto has done with his writing, the one thing I do not doubt is that Naruto and Sakura care for each other and certainly would not be okay with one another being murdered.

Edited by Pink Chidori, 30 July 2015 - 09:05 AM.