EmperorZeo

All Star Wars movies have flaws. Actually all movies have flaws; just like all stories have flaws.

Lucas screwed up big time with the decision to film almost everything in a green or blue screen room with his latest movies. That's the major flaw the prequels have. Another problem is his choice or whoever picked some of the actors. Apart from that if you actually look at the original ones and then the prequels you'll realize they mirror each other. Or as Lucas himself said echo each other.  

Actually the whole green screen/blue screen argument isn't really a valid one. The prequels actually used more practical affects than the originals. Episode I alone had more set pieces than the entire original trilogy combined. III was the only movie in the series to use more digital affects than practical. The originals also used a ton of blue screen. Scenes were enhanced using things like realistic animation and puppetry. It made sense to eventually replace these with CGI, most of the time it ended up looking better.  Star Wars has always been on the cutting edge of special affects. In truth, many people often can tell the difference between what is CGI and what is real. 

 

But like Kishi, who may have a decent plot, it's poor in execution and when you do, you leave it to someone else. The point is there's a two step process and only first step Lucas has it right. The execution is like Kishi, maybe he has a right idea, but the way it was handled was terrible. As for newest ones, while it is subjected to opinions, the difference is that sequel is considered good, but it may not be your type of good. Otherwise, we should have heard critics not liking it as well. Naruto in movies at the least has both side of negative point of view, while the sequel has critics loved as fans split. I take the latter.

This is where I disagree. I do not believe that the prequels were executed poorly. Granted there were plenty of mistakes, but most of those same mistakes were present in the originals. What you have to know about the prequels is, like the latest movie, they were initially well received. Most critics gave episode I and III the thumbs up, episode II not so much. It dragged at times and the romance was not well executed. Roger Ebert gave each film 3 1/2, 2, and  3 1/2 stars out of four, respectively. I don't remember opinions on the films going sour until a few years after their release.

 

Lucas kept his story consistent from beginning to end. Every episode tied together nicely. There were no lose threads. Whereas Kishi let everything fly off the handle soon after Naruto defeated Pain. Fewer things made sense. There were many lose threads and potholes. The overall outcome of the story contradicted or undid years of plot and character development. This is what the sequel has done.

Not really. He has filtered in episode 4 and others were done by another director. The real full fledge movie is episode 1. So yeah...

He wrote all of the stories for the movies. While its true others directed Empire and Jedi, they were still his stories. He even wrote drafts for episodes 7-9, expecting Disney to continue the story after they finalized the sale and he retired. He's been showing regret lately.

 

Lucas never let the fans influence the story, at least not when it came to important plot points. While Kishi very clearly made important changes to the plot based on who was the most popular character and what SJ and SP thought would make them the most money. Now Star Wars and Naruto are in the same boat. Both solely exist to make money and both will be milked dry over time.

Tell me something. How the hell is Sakura supposed to explain the forehead poke to Salad if she herself doesn't even know what it means?

So, let me get this straight... Sasuke and Sakura are married, but Salad is not Sakura's biological kid and he didn't stick around long enough for her to form permanent memories of him. On top of that, now it is implied that Sakura and Sasuke have never even kissed. That would also imply that they have never been intimate at all. And, while it is theoretically possible to bang without kissing it's not very likely. If that's the case, this is a marriage in name only. It's not likely they know each other any better than they did when they were kids. Hell, with the time that has passed she probably knows Lee better than she knows Sasuke. It also means that Sakura's fealings haven't evolved much if at all. Psychologically she's in the same infatuated rut she was in as a kid. I don't know what SS is so happy about about. The last chapter pretty much confirmed that Salad is not a kid they had together. And this chapter strongly hints that they've had no romance between this whatsoever.

As for Naruto and Hinata, I would assume that Bolt's thoughts of Hinata and his claims that his dad is never around means that they're not exactly a close family. He can't use the whole 'I'm the Hokage, I don't have time' excuse, seeing as how the other Kage have been shown to have at least decent familial relationships.

This isn't lazy writing. It takes effort to kitten things up like this. It's like Kishi himself doesn't like the direction he went. It's like he's doing this out of spite for his own characters.

If Sakura does turns out to be Salad's birth mother, that must've made for an interesting SS wedding night.

Sakura: "Why do you need to inject me with Uzumaki DNA before we have sex?"

Sasuke: "Because the combination of Uzumaki and Uchiha genes will enable me to breed a race of super Uchihas?"

Sakura: "IF THATS THE CASE THEN WHAT DO YOU NEED ME FOR? WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST MARRY KAREN?"

Sasuke: "I couldn't deal with her biting fetish."

Sakura: "SO I WAS ONLY YOUR SECOND CHOICE?"

Sasuke: "Actually you were my third choice. But only because Naruto refused to lend me one of his Harem Clones for some reason."

Sakura: 😱

Did I say interesting? I meant insane.

 
 
Highly doubt it considering he is going to be training Boruto over his own daughter. 
 
She'll succeed to some degree where her "Mother" failed to do when she met up with Sasuke and Naruto after their final fight. 
 
 
That's been probably the biggest issue with Giaden is the fact that it's only gonna be 10 chapters. Had it been like 20 or 30 I think it would've been better. 10 chapters are making this feel rushed.

Kishimptonhad 15 years for the original series and the ending was still rushed.

 

We already saw that and discussed it back at the Naruto Gaiden thread

Well damn. I'm always late to the discussion.

 

Anyway, glad to see that Japanese really do share our belief that these parings are unhealthy and make no sense. I would say that I'd love to see the NH and SS reactions to this, but I already know they're either going to say the numbers are somehow inacurate or that NS would have been number 1, for some reason.

Question for everyone. If Salad really does turn out to be Karin and Saduke's kid. I don't mean as the result of some experiment. I mean that she legitimately managed to ignite a lustful fire in his loins, the likes of which even he could not resist. Do you all believe this would be the likely response from the SS fandom?

Kabuto got pretty bad when he wanted to be a copy of Orochimaru before that he was awesome and actually acted like a true ninja...

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I actually found his goal to surpass Orochimaru to be quite ambitious. I had hoped that he would be able to do it.

Actually, he never planed for Leah to be his sister until the second Film so he married her off to Han in the third. In the novels, Luke is married to a another woman that is a bounty hunter if I am not mistaken. 👍

He had written a large stack of story material. Early drafts with different outcomes. Likely the original story material for the sequels he never made were in there too.

It's likely that he didn't decide to nail down the events after A New Hope until he was sure it was successful. Nothing wrong with that. Writers rewrite their drafts all the time. GRR Martin just talked about a huge twist he going to add to the next novel, one that he thought of only recently. It's the end result that maters.

It's bad writing. He spent more time on his red herring than his actual canon couples. His RED HERRING made more sense than the other pairings! Red herrings aren't supposed to trump the truth.

I'm never calling it a red herring, even sarcastically. It's an unresolved subplot, I absolutely hate that. It was very obviously Kishi's intended outcome. The only reason I supported it was because it had all of the necessary evidence supporting it.

I also hate the fact that Naruto becoming Hokage had almost no weight behind it. It was supposed to be the crowning moment of the seties. Instead it was soulless. Like watching Gohan go from being the most powerful fighter in the universe to his old wimpy self. Years of development thrown away. A crime against good writing.

I hate the idea of Sasuke ending up with anyone, but we knew he had to end up with someone because of his whole restore the clan goal.

Honestly Karin was the closest thing to a logical choice. Not because of they had romantic development, they didn't, but because:

1. They're both insane.
2. They're both criminals.

Number 1 speaks for itself. Honestly when Sasuke stabed Her, I didn't really feel sorry for her. People seem to forget that before she joined team Taka she was the warden in one of Orichimaru's prisons. Here she would ocosuonally kill prisoners and burry them in s ditch.

So, crazy criminal x crazy criminal. Made sense to me.

 
Yep, he is.

Hahahahaha! That's awesome! The only thing that Kishi has done in months that I actually like. Still, I'd love to see all of this kitten retconned out of existence.

And what an unpleasant surprise I found when I saw the cover today's OP chapter. Seriously, this mini- series should fail because of that hair alone.

Yahagi is just editor. He doesn't get hate mail or fan mail.

"Just the editor"? I think people tend to underestimate their roles. All that I know is that Naruto was great when a certain editor was onboard and slowly decscended into kitten after he was promoted. If he was the one who kept Kishi on track he deserves fan mail. He deserves a thank you page!

Well, I might have found a bright spot. I was looking at the comments section for anime news network's article on Bolt and Salad's designs. It looks like the mindless praise for Kishi's stupid decisions is starting to die down. One particular comment that I like is someone calling the new series, Naruto GT. Why don't we call it that from now on? It has a nice ring to it?

 

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