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#638381 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Inferno180 on 05 November 2014 - 05:07 PM

To me, yes this is all dissapointing, and well, yeah love subplot becomes a mess, it ends a mess.

 

Now I feel like purging the memory of this entire story, its literally all an asspull and just breaks the logic of it all.

 

Maybe in another life I'll give this series a chance, but in this life, I'm going to purge it all. I liked the series from chapters 1 to 698, but now its just, now I wish i hadn't continued to read the series.

 

I loved this ship guys, I was willing to see NH as canon, but SS as well, sorry but I cannot accept this. NS is always my canon and well whats there to say? This is karma? we were usually the ones getting blasted and I mean kishi had written what he did. But yeah, I am not even going to finish the series with this.

 

I loved this with all of you, but now, the series is dead to me, its over, finally free of this shipping war, going to erase everything from the web and what I did with this. Naruto and everything in it is just over for me. Now I will never remember this series.

 

Maybe in time I will find a replacement like fairytail or something, something that stuck to the stuff it needed, but this is just a case of, well, I'm never going to read this series again.

 

I will miss you all when my purge is complete, I just cannot fulfill the series at this point knowing all the news. To me, its over, the manga, the anime, the games, to have kishi having written all of this and just blatently ignore it, maybe if the series was ever rebooted and had a different outcome, I don't know, but theres just nothing left, nothing.

 

NS was a great and grand journey, but at the end we get this, mess, this thing with no excuse. Its hard to imagine a series that got so good had such a lazy ending. But yeah I'm erasing this series from my mind, its just not a good outcome, not a good resolution.

 

I wished that we would have been right just following a story as it should have, but kishi either got lazy or soldout. I cannot look at this series ever again when the whole development has been ignored and just sasuke gets asspulled to something he shouldnt have and NH just got a movie. Naruto never got resolution with Sakura, thats the worst of all, now this is nothing to me, I am sorry guys, but this series has become nothing to me.

 

So now I begin my purge and erase this series from my mind, erase the stain of the ending, erase what I liked following this series over the years.

 

I was never going to ship anything after this, but after seeing this result, I just cannot look at manga the same way again, so upon this news, I just sold my naruto games to gamestop and will erase my web broswer, this is just sad, I'll always remember you guys in heart, but now, Naruto is something I need to erase from my mind, thats how upsetting this is, not because of the ship, but even because of just how, pointless and out of order this ending is. Even as a writier, kishi messed up, I am not going to spend time about going on what could have been, now to me, its just a mess, just this ending made me loose my respect for this series, I mean sasuke now suddenly loving Sakura, well guys, guess this is farewell. It was a great journey, but theres nothing left to respect for this series. I loved the buildup but the ending was a WTF moment, a big one, sorry guys but hey, its been fun. I'll remember you all in heart. When my purge is complete, well, the joy of this ship will always remain in my heart, but I've dropped the series now, its nothing to me, never again will I lay eyes upon naruto, for I wanted to see a story full of its development become something it should have in the end, not just asspulled something else because of fandom preferences or not having the balls to fulfill and follow what you wrote. In an alternate reality, well, I wish we could have see the NS canon there, but all I can say this this left a bad taste in my mouth and its a pain to me to say I now want to never see this series again. Maybe I'll take up fairytail, now. But its been fun guys, farewell.




#631436 Naruto Databook IV [Manga Spoilers]

Posted by Inferno180 on 04 November 2014 - 02:36 PM

Guess its also great how the stuff we thought with NS came to be practically right on the spot so, so in the end, we are fine and we just now need to await the end. Seeing this NS stuff in the databook, :wow:

 

Now I am awaiting the end more than ever.

 

@Chatte no I am serious, either Kishi is followed your ideas or you can see into the future.

 

Its again just funny how your theories came so close, I mean just imagine if the story had been like something else such as Sakura got senju powers instead of Tsunades, that would have been more direct but the fact this is what occured in the databook its funny.

 

I mean doesn't it pay to mention sakura has earth (being heaven) in another way while healing kinda flows in line with water (kinda like katara from the last airbender, many fantasy series use some water powered person having healing as well). This is just funny and amusing.




#631427 Naruto Databook IV [Manga Spoilers]

Posted by Inferno180 on 04 November 2014 - 02:30 PM

Well I mean, last night with the speculative spoilers from evil, that stuff was still, pleasing to see.

 

But this is much better to me because you know, its offical, and to see Sakura even stated to have Narutos dream for loving and protecting her, the promise as something from both of them, and Sakura having mainly Sasukes wellbeing in mind, with nothing on Sakura for Sasuke, and well hinata is just as we all know.

 

I need to say, I am pleased, I am for all purposes just content with this knowledge, this is the stuff that makes me believe NS in the first place.

 

I mean hell, you see Chatte happy, even her whole old prediction of Sakura and some senju power ironically has gotten her labeled with water and earth powers. Talk about again something she made that came very close, its almost again, scary to the point maybe kishi just made the story off her theories so maybe chatte is the real indirect author?

 

But yeah, NS stated like this in the databook, mainly with stuff we knew and understand, thats just something for all purposes I want to see resolved now and its well, releiving in one case and satisfactory to keep me content until the finale, so no more spoiler hunting for me. I mean if this is technically all around chapter 689 to 691, thats basically what we knew and nothing spoilerwise, more like offical and expanded context, but yeah, naruto always loving sakura and sakura paying naruto back for loving and protecting her, thats just, wow, never expected to see this come up, I mean we could have just seen pay naruto back for protecting her but also loving, thats a thing to make me smile regardless of the outcome. The until now thing isn't anything to fret, I mean maybe because the until now was her protecting him for the change or something else could occur like for all he did until then, maybe something would result from after all of it in the end? Eh we will see on thursday, but now, I am happy enough to not need to press my curiosity more for this stuff. Its content here and I will take my leave on it. For all purposes, I can see NS stuff happening in the end and see a resolution of anything else. But this is nice, very very nice. Its enough to get everyone in a better mood since the movie stuff has come, and personally, thats the thing I like most about this now, everyone is in a better mood, so lets keep this mood for thursday shall we?




#628468 Its always been about the Journey

Posted by Inferno180 on 03 November 2014 - 09:29 PM

So guys, here we are, the twilight of the ending, in less than 72 hours, the ending to Naruto will finally come.

 

I know I said I had one last post, but this is the last thing to me I wanted to say that really matters.

 

Regardless of the turnout, NS or NH will be canon this Thursday, but for anything else, look at it like this:

 

I have always argued that NH and SS fans speculated their pairings as nothing more than something to spontaneously occur, that if they did, it would just be weak, rushed, convenient, easy.

 

To me, I always envisioned NH and SS as nothing more than destinations, and the sole fact a movie, with NHness lets say, to be here, if NH is canon, well then my view is confirmed that NH has been nothing this whole time but a destination.

 

The fact it would need 110 minutes in this movie between 699 and 700 to show how NH occured (if its canon) would be the fact to me that NH was nothing important in the manga, just something so easy, so convinent, Hinata literally would be downgraded to pairing fodder for the sole purpose of this along with the fact she gets well, kidnapped along with her sister (later though) and this sounds well, to much like the idealism disney crap you all know I hate.

But the sole fact the manga occured as it did, NS at this point has always been a journey and no matter what, years worth of steady progress, even as friendship, is still much more fulfilling than a simple 110 minute movie for NH to occur.

 

Because its not about the destination, its always been about the journey. Nh just to occur now, well thats just a destination, if you seek so long going somewhere, you lose purpose of what made it important in the first place and well, this is my take from NH fans now, even if NH went canon, its not fulfilling, its just a spot they wanted but at what cost? What does it have to show for it? Certainly nothing in the manga this whole time for the fact the movie exists. Call it a sellout to SP, but as I said before, we got victory where it mattered, the presentation.

 

Because NS has been riding along this whole time, thats a 100% canon fact. Its been about the journey, regardless of how Naruto and Sakura turn out, the fact we saw Naruto make the promise, love Sakura, how Sakura grew with him, how they had highs and lows, how Naruto felt unworthy of her, how Sakura felt she caused him harm, this is stuff NH will never have, because this all happened in the past, the fact these 2 went so far for each other, its always been about the journey, and what was experienced, not the outcome. Because NS has been a wonderful journey, its always been about what happened along the way, not just that end result, and yet we still have one more part in the journey, to see Naruto tell Sakura he got Sasuke back, to see her reaction to these words is the last thing I want to see, along with Naruto confessing himself to her more or less in chapter 700 if things go our way, but again, regardless of the outcome, its always been about the journey, and the one thing I can say that we have in the end, NH will never have, is a manga full of a great journey these 2 had, because NH certainly has no journey for the fact they would need a movie to address their deal.

 

Because its about the journey, the experiences, and the times along the way, everything of meaning and purpose regardless of the result, NH will never have this and again, to me, this is what matters most. I believe we will get NS, there is just so much I want to see answered from the development, the promise, the Kushina foreshadow still only being on Sakura and Minato never meeting another girl besides Sakura, I want to see Naruto fulfill his promise, I am rooting for the hero to fulfill this and confess to Sakura. Because regardless of love or friendship, its always been about the journey and thats what is most important.

 

NS has been a wonderful journey, no matter what that outcome is, its something I will always love, and just thinking about the past, makes it that much more fulfilling than a simple movie. I hope to see NS in the end like all of you, but this is what was truely important and I hope the rest of you realize that, don't get caught up in fear of the present, the destination is not what is fulfilling, its everything it took to get here, and NH had none of that in the manga should it need a movie to just serve its own ends. Because NH and SS are just destinations and just reaching them isn't fulfilling, but NS has been the journey the whole time, and to me, this is why I say, regardless, we have won where it matters, because NS was the journey the whole time and its been a deep experience with all of you I have loved being on this journey and I will never forget it.

 

Regardless of the outcome, I will still love NS and everyone here. Its been wonderful guys, lets see Naruto fulfill that promise and hopefully confess. I am rooting for Naruto, the Hero, lets see the development, the promise, and the kushina foreshadow all come together, lets see NS resolution. Because its been a wonderful journey, and we are finally at the end, its been a great one at that, fulfilling no matter the result. And we don't need a movie to fulfill anything at that.




#626653 A Last Request to All of Heaven and Earth and NS

Posted by Inferno180 on 02 November 2014 - 06:57 PM

So as all of us know, the end of Naruto is upon us, the finale of this series we loved so much is finally about to end, Naruto just got Sasuke back to the light side lets say, and for anything else, the only surefire thing to happen aside from the Genjutsu being released is the thing thats been a thing of both excitement and concern to some of us. But this is something I want to say and otherwise just give a little insight towards how others may feel NS has in the end despite the NHness of the movie.

 

This will be my last post until the finale.

 

Thats why I feel I should say this and otherwise make a request to the entire site, something I feel even the Admins will Respect.

 

Lets make this a pure experience, lets make this something one last time we can all enjoy.

 

Yes I mean all of us are mature to know, this is a fictional series, whatever the outcome lets be mature about it, even if its not the best of the intended from the authors writing.

 

So what am I asking for to be mature about?

 

Lets make this a good experience, lets make this something to remember, I mean like make this a pure experience in the end, no spoilers, no tags of occurrences when that last chapter thread comes up, lets make this something we all can enjoy.

 

I mean like imagine how much special this will be without the spoilers, try to ignore that temptation itself is hard but it will be so much better in the end to wait for the final 2 chapters to see the translationed stuff. I mean like even when that thread of the first poster finds it up and makes that thread, just put something in there like this is the end, the finale of naruto, etc.

 

Because this is the finale time we will be doing this at H&E here. As FoolishYoungling put up a while back, the whole thread of us to be mature, lets enjoy this as a finale that is special, as Naruto fans, as NS fans regardless of the outcome.

 

I can tell you, spoilers can be tempting, sometimes I was in a rush to see what happened after some chapters like 450 or 631, but I want to see the ending without suprise, I want to see it as it should be, my first experience in those final pages.

 

I can tell you guys that for anything you may have been excited for, spoilers can be a thing you want to know, you want to see how the characters turn out, Hell I was almost tempted to spoil halo 4 for myself but if I had, the moment I saw Cortana die in the end, that would have been a big spoiler to me, I mean this was a game series where you came to enjoy her company as she aided you, she was essentially the secondary character behind the John-117, now she is dead and the Halo series goes on, killing a main character wasn't easy and had many Halo fans shocked and saddened like how could you have Halo without Cortana? It boggles the mind to some even 2 years later. The fact I was able to ignore that spoiler temptation just made the end result that much more special and I feel, well, maybe we should all resist the lure of temptation for this finale.

 

So I ask everyone, please no spoilers or notions of what happens, I myself will follow this and not act until I see the chapter upon Mangapanda or the link to it from here like others have put up in the past.

 

So lets have one last ride and make it special shall we?

 

Otherwise I have a couple things about the movie to say, stuff that will just again, lets say put promise to NS.

 

We know how some have been worried about NH and the movie, the stuff just coming again and again, it seems like kishi just gave to bad writing and just wont do anything for NS right? Well thats the funny thing, because well, after looking at some stuff, looking at the past and the present, its just a deal that, there is well, promise in looking for reasonable doubt. Because reasonable doubt will be able to give some truth and this is some stuff I really think people will like.

 

I guess the first thing I should say though is even though the movie has a lot of NHness to it, its actually not the end, thanks to info from chatte, it turns out chapter 700 is an epilogue after the period of the movie, 699 will end part 2 while chapter 700 is the finale of everyone else.

 

So not to alarm anyone, but one thing is assured to happen in chapter 700:

 

NS or NH will be canon

 

But some feel that NH is just going to be canon because of the marketing or the showcasing, but again, just to help throw some stuff out there, its just that something feels off and well, I guess we can put it like this:

 

Each NS and NH you can say have stuff going for them, NS has the manga material in the past while NH has stuff implying its going to occur for the movie but to some this feels "unnatural" given the past and thats the thing to look at:

 

Look at NS and NH as they are now with the manga and the movie for one very special reason:

 

The last has been in production for over 2 years, this means everything kishi did with the movie, he still wrote the manga as it is, to this point, even with the promise coming forward in the end along with the NH impliedness of the final movie.

 

What this means is, well yeah, its a very good reason to question Kishi's writing because:

 

-The NS stuff in the past still exists, its still happened, it still came, the development, hints, the kushina foreshadow and parallel, its all there, at this point its it happens or its like well what was the point?

 

-The last seemingly NH oriented well, it doesn't either help the past of what NH missed, in that kishi had written this movie along with still the manga as we saw, ex: as we saw 631 and 663 occur as they did, kishi was still writing the movie as he was and so it becomes a question one would ask, what is kishi trying to do then?

 

Because looking at it, we can see a problem, one that is a curious factor, if kishi put so much on NS over the years, why suddenly go NH with a movie and just bring it out in 110 minutes, doesn't that seem like NS just becomes incomplete and NH still just seems rather rushed and unfulfilled? If NS went canon then everything done in the manga is everything merited by all logic, but NH though with a movie, seems like a shocker. So what can we get from this then?

 

That is where the promise of NS comes in, ironically, its exactly that, the promise made to get sasuke back so long ago and for this reason, this is really what I find ironic, the promise which was a very central element to NS, to see it needing completion in the final 2 chapters, ironically even in this time, NS may just surprise us.

 

I mean in regards to the movie, its still a good question: So much NS over the years yet NH in the movie? I am not going to say anything about marketing but there is one thing I really really find as a well, notion that may just be a better question:

 

If NH is this obvious to occur, then with the movie being advertised so much with the NHness, and chapter 700 confirmed to be beyond the movie, this leads me to 2 conclusions:

 

-1. That SP already spoiled the manga ending directly and this movie is to say "how NH occurred" if Nh is in fact the end pairing, but this still just again leads to many questions like well why not the focus in the manga and why all the kushina stuff?

 

-2. The manga ending may not be NH after all and because of the promise and preexisting NS stuff, the result in the movie may be something completely not shown, aka we could have a range of things from Hinata sacrificing herself or moving on from Naruto.

 

-Not a major reason but some have put out that Sakuras noted theme in this story is well, Life and fate, for others like Naruto having dreams, Shikamaru having morals, Sai having relationships, and Hinata having love, well then Sakura has fate so something should happen right? I mean even for a movie Hinata getting some larger role, Sakura, one of the most important in the series has to have some role right? I mean theres no need to worry about SS, I mean there is no basis for that now, Sasuke himself even from the movie.  Likewise some others have noted, we have not even seen much from sakura in this movie despite knowing that she has some role in the team to save hanabi, so obviously something should happen right?

 

But this is where I again, just find a curious point:

 

-The NS stuff in the past is the key to what may just lie in the end, mainly with the promise, we know this will be resolved, that it will be met, that whatever the outcome, NS will get some resolution, regardless of the outcome:

 

As love or friendship, there has to be a NS resolution.

 

And for all we know the final chapter may just suprise us because as I said before, if NH is that obvious with the movie than shouldn't we already be just expecting naruto with hinata in the end, or could there possibly be something else because as the manga is, there is something lying down there with the promise:

 

Naruto will mention some completion to that promise and well for all we know, chapter 700 could just as I said before, bring something that was hidden, all the NS stuff may just come forward if the movie is not what we expect.

 

Is it possible this is able to happen? Yes, otherwise I would be suprised for SP to just directly give away the ending like this and really well, there isn't anyway to see NH seriously just in a 110 minute movie after the whole manga passed without much for HInata nor Naruto changing away from Sakura or towards Hinata. I mean it seems, well just silly right?

 

Because at this point, it feels if NH happens, then kishi just went with commercial writing, the stuff that ruins the writing industry, stories just given a result because of money and fanfare over the integrity of the story, but again, this is just a funny notion because remember, kishi has been writing the manga with the NS stuff and the movie with the NH stuff over these past 2 years, so its a good question to say he either just has some strange idea in mind or maybe this movie isn't all its been seen as so far.

 

But as I said, its really a curious thing in this final stretch, rather than worry, I am well curious, curious because of all this.

 

The end result is just that, we have the manga, setup right here, Sasuke recently pulled out of his madness, Naruto can finally say to Sakura he fulfilled the promise so aside from confessing, perhaps chapter 700 will speak of something entirely different in the end right?

 

Then again, there is also the NH plastered stuff for the movie and for all cases, its again, a curious deal, is it just that expected to have NH regardless of the ending and story integrety? Because by that count then the manga ending in chapter 700 is already spoiled and this movie is nothing more than how NH happened.

 

Otherwise if its NS in the end, well then what is the movie for? Perhaps then it says something else but takes Hinata into account.

 

Whatever the outcome, I hope we can all enjoy the series as it has been, NS is safe no matter what, love or friendship (friendship is still a ship technically) I feel the only thing that we need to see for this final chapter duo is to see resolution for NS no matter the result.

 

I also hope we can all take this final Thursday as a special one, this is the last time we will have this together. I mean regardless the series was fun, we can still get that anime episode of 663, and even if we lose, well NS at least got the lions share.

 

I mean again, if we see NH in the manga, well then SP already spoiled it and the final chapter seems outta nowhere with Hinata in the end despite the promise this close and that the movie is nothing more than the thing to explain how it happened, but even then well if NH happened in the manga, technically the movie would be spoiled too right? I mean you wouldn't need to be surprised in the movie after seeing the manga. But if NS were to be canon in that final chapter, now that is something that would need to be seen considering the movie. If NS suprises us all, then the movie would be to say how Hinata is resolved and that on its own makes sense and makes for a reason to see what happens right? I mean you won't need to bother with the movie if you know NH occurs, the movie would be just to see how, but even then wouldn't it still feel unusual considering everything else in the past NS did get and NH didn't? If NH is the end result, then SP already spoiled it, no need to be surprised if it occurs, but if NS is the end result, then there is a big reason to see the final movie. A NS ending in the manga doesn't spoil the movie in anyway, but instead speaks well, how was Hinata resolved then? I mean just because kishi said it was a love story, he never said what results exactly with the love now did he?

 

All I know is, things seem, inconsistent, NS may just go through with the promise for all we know, and for anything else, I hope we can all enjoy this, spoiler free, and have one last good morning to remember, NS we can freak out and go into joy, NH comes, well lets just enjoy the ending like a mature group shall we?

 

I look forward to seeing you all on Thursday morning, lets see this amazing series end with a bang.




#619271 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Inferno180 on 30 October 2014 - 12:38 AM

 

That is not true, in RtN they hyped the story big time. While the story in RtN wasn't particularly spectacular, it at least had a lot of good moments with actual good character interactions and theme. In the Last, it seems really uninspiring. Maybe my opinion will change when we get more information and/or when it is finally release, it is just I feel like we are making a big deal of this movie, when there may not be any reason to make a big deal of it.

 

Well RtN let naruto see his parents, but as for the deal of NH and SS fans not caring for the story, thats my final conclusion with them, after all the NS stuff for it being called a dead pairing since 469, its just a sad case for even a "dead pairing" like ours to get more attention than theirs and even more insane to think kishi would just have sasuke spontaneously love sakura or naruto just forget his promise now and/or just go to hinata despite the whole ordeal from 615 to 631 which enraged the NH fanbase. Because if our pairing is dead, well we devoured the remains of Nh and SS because to get more development and focus as nothing intended, its just a sheer embarrassment for NH and SS at this point.

 

But hey, looking how Nh fans ranted over 631 and 663, at how SS fans said Sasuke always loved Sakura, when it was blatantly obvious he didn't, even for those to think he wasn't being serious in 693 or tried to make pitful excuses about the genjutsu despite him showing sakura himself killing her, then trampling on her views, thats just the limit of absurd and stupidity from a fandom, its just pure fandumb at this point.

 

My conclusion of the Nh and ss fandom is that they didn't care for the story, they only wanted some blatant absurdity to occur regardless of the complications and unacceptability. Because they still believe sasuke will love sakura (completely contradicting their view that he loved her already) and that naruto had somehow gotten over sakura and/or went to hinata (despite us never seeing it and the fact naruto still loves Sakura) or that the kushina foreshadow means nothing because of 691 (yet what we saw we saw, sakura was like kushina and neither way does this help hinata, this makes the whole naruto meeting his mother and father deal kinda pointless on this one aspect doesn't it? Minato didn't even meet Hinata for that point!) God I am done with the stupidity of this pairing war, only going to enjoy NS no matter what, just want to see the promise tackled and fulfilled. Its like these fans loved to work offscreen and ignore what was mostly onscreen unless it was in favor of them, everything onscreen is non-canon unless they say so, everything NS is fake and a lie, everything fanfiction based on NH and SS is true. God glad this should all end. I just hope we get a good NS event between naruto and sakura for the promise fulfilled.




#619244 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Inferno180 on 30 October 2014 - 12:07 AM

 

The big hype of the NH fandom concerning the movie:

 
-the sketch of the mysterious girl claiming its Hinata (and that she's pregnant with Naruto's child, this one was confirmed to be completely false).
-The scarf according to them it was given to Naruto by Hinata (from what I've read this is also false).
-The screenshot of Naruto walking ahead with a somber expression, behind him Hinata.
 
So apparently the third one is the main reason why NH fans are making a big fuss. Including Forneverworld who just like the fandom jump the gun and scream canon. I lost count how many times they have jump to conclusions and they're proven wrong.

 

 

The NH fandom screamed canon at 437, ironic it turned out never resolved in the manga

 

They shouted in 615, yet that went nowhere, instead being the overzealous meatheads they are, it just became overplastered and since these are the types of fans who would spend any amount of money on a picture of this stuff, they put it on a cover, opening, ending, and in a game.

 

And now this, well hey, maybe if they scream enough NH went canon not by development but by hype, no seriously this is why it gets the attention, because of insane fans who think something so overly simplified should be answered.

 

Seriously, I have reason to hate the SS fandom for some of the most severely stupid reasons ever when their own ship has been anything but love, a fandom full of the most double standard tightwads I have ever seen who think that their negativity display matters not, that everything will be better in the end at a sudden flick of the switch like I have always said, but the NH fandom, I came to hate and distance myself from them because its just so overhyped, canon or not, its overhyped and its just outright annoying. Part of me wants NS to go canon to just shut these guys up. Not entrall them based upon poor storytelling and marketing just so their preferences are answered, seriously, if you ask me:

 

The NH and SS fandoms have no respect for the story at all, because even with SS being mostly negative and NH having no consistency, being infrequent, just mostly marketing, fillers, and hype, it would really be a letdown in my opinion that NH or SS happen because this is the true basis for it, looking at the wider picture, NS isn't marketed, it just exists in the manga and its hated for the dumbest reasons generally in the west, but hey the NH/SS fandom is the same fandom that wanted to butcher the english language and say naruto confused girlfriend and girl who is a friend and several other horrid views that are just plain the true examples of those who think like this are proof that devolution exists as well and the stupid can spread apparently. To me this is a fact, sadly the one causality in the pairing wars was rationality among these fandoms and no matter what happens now, this is still true.

 

Because seriously, when these two fandoms have nothing but either the basis of "because their girl loves them", some anti-NS statement that is utter bs, or something like Sasuke loving sakura even now past 693 or that he will (which completely contradicts their eariler statements years before from him secretly loving her), that the kushina focus is a joke, that NS is all plaontic:

 

It makes me sad to hear comments like this and that there are people that honestly think like this because after everything in this pairing war, the amount of foolishness and absurd claims on NS again and again, it makes no difference at this point, NS still had the most focus and development, anything they say, no matter what just makes NH and SS look even more convoluted than any fanfic pairing now. Its like why then would kishi have focused on NS so much and not NH or SS? Why this waste? Why just go with the deal of "because the girls hoped or loved them" rather than an actual story plot event like naruto not being able to confess due to his promise?

 

Thats the difference with NS and the others till the end, we can at least say there is a reason NS can occur, SS is just a mess and NH just has Hinata in the genjutsu with nothing important in the manga remaining. Because to me, this love subplot should have the only pairing with development occur, one that still has a plot element unfulfilled but now able to be, not the other 2 which just run on the "because she loves him" reason.

 

I have faith in NS and hope the promise comes full swing, but after this pairing war, god, never getting in another one again, no matter whats canon, least we were the smart and reasonable ones, not the insane diluted just hope for the ending to occur instantly ones or the lets suck up to the boob one and just put down everyone else fandom.

 

Part of the good thing about this war ending, least the NH and SS fans will shut the hell up either way....




#619150 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Inferno180 on 29 October 2014 - 10:49 PM

So ya it let me get this straight, naruto either has multiple scarfs or just a green one?

Well so much for the red scarf of fate since we see a green one, even the lighting shows it as green, in that same picture with sakura, her outfit is still red so yeah it's green.

The enemy isn't even a hygua or byakugan user, well so why would he need hanabi? Some crazy stuff only she can unlock? Wait a minute, hinata still isn't the heir to her clan? Perhaps her role in this movie is ascending to that instead of nh?

Oh boy as far as I am concerned, until the ending of the manga comes, this is still noncanon in my book, hell if the ending is fine enough if it has enough to make ns be canon, then that's it for me, nothing else needed.

Isn't it funny how there is nh hype then a it more comes out to say it's not exactly like that? I mean hanabi a role isn't a means to grant nh and Sasuke still has a role so something with him should be more important than hinata. Otherwise if it's going by canon, unless we see stuff from the manga continuing, then surely some ns stuff should occur as well?

We just need to wait and see a bit more. That is all. Not all nh hype as it once was though.

Besides we have a good chance if ns stuff in the end with the promise so there's also that.


#618515 Chapter 698

Posted by Inferno180 on 29 October 2014 - 01:52 PM

You guys all know what this means though right?

 

With Sasuke back to his senses, Naruto should finally be okay to be hokage at anytime and otherwise confess to Sakura! He fulfilled that promise.




#615147 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Inferno180 on 26 October 2014 - 10:25 PM

You guys know I have faith in NS and as more movie stuff comes out, its almost well disheartening, not because of whats revealed, but rather just how people act, either in disappointment or overexcited, because the manga is almost done and we have 2 weeks left, even now with there possibly a situation like the NS ova, I mean yes its good to be excited for the end but I would want to be just that, excited.

 

Because most recent news has been that its simply just Hanabi gets kidnapped and Naruto, Sakura, Shikamaru, Sai, and Hinata go to save her, along with Sasuke having a role and the moon falling down, I would actually be okay not bothering to look at anything movie related for now, you know why? I would rather avoid the shock and disappointment. Especially because next chapter could be something big for NS, maybe even the end, I would want to save that and see what comes rather than be conflicted when more movie news comes out, because it seems like Hinata is just too toxic right now, on anything.

 

Am I afraid NS won't go canon? No, rather I would just want to simply go not paying attention to the movie news and you know, what you don't know doesn't nessessairly hurt you, I would rather take all the material at once at this point rather than be worried, I want to be exicted for the ending regardless. Because as more movie news comes out, one group will have some shock and be worried while another will become overzealous. I mean for all we know if the trailer comes out, what if it hinted NS or some new material came out this coming week? Just food for thought.

 

But for anycase, this is why I am just waiting on the manga and avoiding any movie news, I want to keep exicted for this chapter and see what happens, not be saddened by another event that doesn't even tell much.

 

Even then, I don't even know if the movie still has been called canon or non-canon, I mean its built off the manga after the war, thats for sure, but again, did they ever say if this is in the same realm as dragonball GT being a non-canon extension or not? Thats my point, I mean did they call it canon or non-canon yet? Even depending on how the manga ends, for all we know the manga can have its own epilogue or further than 2 years timeskip ending, or that type which its a good acceptable ending of its own regardless of the continuation, kinda like halo 4 or return of the jedi, you know more lies beyond but the ending to that story itself is a good one for all the other ones as well. So yeah I won't be active as much until wensday when the new chapter comes out, but again, heres hoping NS goes canon, and even if it doesn't well we still got the best development and display out of it, I mean at this point, lady gts after the war doujin is a good after war ending in my book.




#612615 Volume 71 Cover

Posted by Inferno180 on 24 October 2014 - 01:17 PM

Well if you guys wanted any good news this came out:

 

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Covers chapters 680 to 689.

 

Title is "I love You" given from what Kakashi said in the finale of the Kagyua fight.




#612037 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 1

Posted by Inferno180 on 24 October 2014 - 04:39 AM

Well for anything else,

 

Naruto still needs resolution with Sakura before Nh could even reasonably occur, I mean guys remember, unlike the other loves Naruto has a mental block for why he couldn't just confess and for all that, its like if he gave up on sakura or just moved to hinata, thats contradictory to his never give up attitude and even then, he is the freaking hero, he needs his chance to confess and resolve stuff, he needs to have his answer, not just settle it all at once out of uneasiness with the fake confession as some anti-NS fans like to believe. I mean even now he still loves Sakura, its just again, contradictory for him to give up or settle for anyone else when he feels unable to even confess to sakura because of the promise and the promise is still there...

 

Even then, there is potential in this movie for NS to go canon and Sakura is the freaking heroine, she should get some big role, and its kinda funny even hanabi gets more of a purpose than hinata does, hinata is there simply because of Hanabi, isn't that a funny deal? And besides, with sasuke having some big importance here, well remember how usually anything sasuke and hinata related never mix? Sasuke is still already known to have a bigger role than hinata, so, just how much of a role would hinata herself actually have? Yeah its funny how things work out. Who knows, that album cover could all be because hanabi was kidnapped. Overhype is everything as usual.

 

Until more info comes out and things are more clear, I really see no reason to be concerned for NS, because its still fine and knowing sasuke has some major role, well this isn't a clear cut NH movie like some want to believe, I mean NS was definately a clear cut NS movie as a secondary focus, but if this is involving hanabi and something she was kidnapped for, is it a crime to say that Hanabi has a bigger role already than hinata? Oh boy, now I find this old info from the morning ironic and just funny now, wow, the fandom overreacted again. Oh boy, maybe its still good to avoid some of the anime sites for a while, now this is funny. Because nothing was clear cut NH like some thought, NS still has its presence in the manga and if not resolved there, it would still need resolution in the future in the movie or beyond for anything of reason and it still could occur. Likewise we have that evidence and development still unresolved so yeah, we are fine. Who knows, this may still turn to NS in the end. If its just one part of the plot well, everyone has a role and I am sure Sakura has a major one as well. She is the heroine. If it involves Sasuke and Hamura, surely something for Sakura concerning naruto and sasuke exists too, and remember, something with naruto can be for sakura as well. So yeah chill and wait for more, as I said I am going to bug out for a few days, but after all this, yeah, feeling fine for NS.




#611895 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 1

Posted by Inferno180 on 24 October 2014 - 03:55 AM

Hmm actually this is curious, Sasuke's outfit, is it possible that this is all upon him possibly not coming back to the village yet?

 

If this new guy, lets call him Hamura for now, is the new in part, villian, then I guess I can figure out part of the coming ending of the manga:

 

Sasuke helps release the genjutsu but may leave

 

If sasuke leaves, then his new clothes, looking like rags, now something tells me he has been among as a drifter the past 2 years, possibly with taka.

 

Naruto and co face Hamura, but upon facing him see that he has the power of kagyua, in doing this the only thing that can stop him is the power of hagoromo, which has been split up upon Naruto and Sasuke. So in line for the movie, is it possible that Naruto and co need to find sasuke to stop this guy? Otherwise, ugh so this is how Hinata suddenly becomes relevant... not really the best because its still going to be naruto kun headache time...

 

Nothing even like this would make NH acceptable just because of this, seriously if SS managed to come too, that would just be bonkers and stupid. I don't know why but there has to be a major role for Sakura in this movie, I mean for gods sake, she is the heroine, but now if Hinata has some role, oh this is just dumb if now she suddenly is relevant after so much time doing nothing but standing around and saying narutos name a lot.... even then she may not do much...

 

Though I find it funny that even Hanabi suddenly becomes relevant, oh boy...

 

Even she can be given a bigger role than Hinata apparently.

 

Though we need to see more of the plot, perhaps more will come for NS in time. Who knows, maybe something else beyond this when more info on the new era comes? Eh whatever, not worth getting worked up about after so many freaked out at the album cover, though it didn't mean anything for the long run.

 

Still I keep my faith in the development and the stuff NS got, I mean want a joke to cheer you up? A fan on tumblr posted how upsetting ending stuff could be and said Zutara should have come and that NH and SS got lots of hints because apparently SS is real love and has evidence because Sasuke nearly killing people is proof :argh:

 

Okay yeah enough from the stupid fans. If Hanabi gets kidnapped, well this would explain Hinata's role, but not everything is fully given, I mean theres still Sasuke as well and well given the presumed threat, I would expect him to have something major like Naruto, otherwise yeah Sakura too, and unless we get some by a miricle, a NS resolution in the remaining manga time, or major event in the last 60 pages, then that stuff would have to be answered, not this presumed crap of stuff like 691 somehow making hints like Sakura to kushina no longer relevant, I mean its not going to change what we already saw with sakura hinted like kushina and likewise they cannot argue anything for it to help themselves, (even then how many times have these fans changed their stance on it, saying it no longer mattered in 691 was admitting that then it apparently did matter in 631? Geez these guys cannot make up their minds). So yeah, if the movie is canon, then if the NS stuff is still unanswered, well then it should be answered in the future!

 

But yeah I am just waiting on the manga for now, rather wait to see what happens with sakura and I have faith in the NS stuff but after shocks like how some fans acted today, I may just want to avoid the sites for a few days. Come back later to see when more stuff makes sense, I can stand the info, just not the panic fellow fans thinking everything went to hell otherwise yeah NH fans jumping the gun again. One picture wont explain everything, who knows, maybe the picture was about hanabi being kidnapped and the concern for her? That could be it instead of this presumed love, even then, that deal of love could still be on NS for all we know, so yeah until then, I may just bug out for a few days again. Keep calm and keep loving NS is all I say to do, besides nothing can stop the love of this ship, its perfect in its own right no matter what if you ask me.




#609772 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 1

Posted by Inferno180 on 23 October 2014 - 04:26 AM

With the news about that single album and NH fans overracting, well again, there's a lot of stuff for NS in the manga which still matters more than anything.

 

I mean there is no getting around NS has the most material and well, its just again, NH hasn't been fleshed out enough nor shown much with Naruto on Hinata. Yet he still loves Sakura, and Kishi himself even hinted Sakura like kushina so yeah I would say chill until more stuff is released, I mean come on guys, you know SS is just impossible, NH still has plenty of its own issues.

 

Basically NH fans thinking, again, some advertisment makes them canon...

 

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Because seriously, all fans, NH and those NS fans concerned:

 

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Seriously, its not as bad as you think, we still have stuff in our favor, story wise, thats what matters.

 

Really, if NH is canon, its just, well, too convenient, Hinata is nothing more than well, the poorest and most convenient satellite character ever. I mean NH occurs, simply because she hoped for it, thats it, not like the dynamics or built stuff that NS had. Its just, god, this would really be just, so overly simplified, its just dumb...

 

I mean never mind the fact kishi actually focused so much more on Naruto and Sakura, its still just the fact of what he did in the past, the hints of sakura like kushina, the moments naruto and sakura got together, its like, if he was set on NH, then why didn't he have Hinata hug Naruto or have her come in 662-663 to help Sakura? Seriously? People don''t see this as a problem?

 

Its just, oh boy, NH fans go kitten insane over any little thing, again, when there isn't any real confirmation and its kinda foolish to think if something like love is resolved then it would just be right there given away.

 

Oh god, this fandom, SS fans are crazy zealots, NH fans search for anything they can to use when they have little in the manga, and NS fans get paranoid at too many things...

 

Oh god, I will keep my faith in the writing, not the convenient thing thats just been lying there without much dynamics or builds. Seiously, if NH went canon, Hinata would be one of the poorest characters I ever saw, she is the first character I came to just dislike because of the fandom, not the writing, but if the writing did do this, god, its like, 15 years, so simplistic, not much changed over the story we saw, then just jam it in the end because a 2 year timeskip is the perfect excuse when it doesn't change the problems that came before, I mean god, kishi had hinted NS even when the fandom said it was "dead" and just that is enough to make me say, then why the hell didn't kishi just freaking focus on NH in the first place!?

 

Oh god, this fandom and their fandumb.




#608381 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 1

Posted by Inferno180 on 20 October 2014 - 08:01 PM

NNNNNOOOOOO!

Life here will never be the same without a Pepsi refreshment :(

We will miss you my friend.. rest in piece :'(

 

Eh I always preferred pepsi max