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#489952 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 29 August 2013 - 08:10 AM

You guys still care about what other's fandom say ? i don't think it's even worth debating but to each his own I guess, it's not only that NS is the most developed relationship out of the big 3 NaruSaku has been pretty much confirmed many times by the plot itself and that's the big difference with the other pairings, you just have to take a look at Naruto's parallels. Anyway If/when NS becomes canon most of their hate will be redirected towards the author.

I wanted to comment on the Sasuke issue : for me it's clear as day that Sasuke won't die Kishi has gone out of his way to keep his hands "clean" (fooder's lives don't matter in this manga) and looking at the recent Hashirama's flashback it is more or less implied that Naruto and Sasuke will have to cooperate to bring peace to the world. Here is what I am talking about http://www.mangaread...t/naruto/625/16
I except something extremely corny and forced but this is Kishi and he likes it that way, I don't really know if Sasuke will return back to Konoha but it's a very high possibility, again looking back at Hashirama's flashback he wanted Madara to work with him but failed and Madara left. The new generation surpassing the old means that Naruto will convince Sasuke that his path is wrong and they will work together to change the ninja system. At least that's the way I see it.
And to be honest for NS's sake it would be way better if Sasuke didn't die, Sakura has to choose Naruto OVER Sasuke, not because Sasuke isn't there anymore.


#481270 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 15 July 2013 - 12:35 AM

 

But the real problem is will people in this fandom accept that hinata will forever have one sided love for naruto? And Always thinking about how he encouraged her rather than haveing hinata starting encourage herself then to just relie on narutos words. Plus people will start to bashing on naruto for never accepting her love they will call naruto all these horrible names for making hinata sympathetic character. Even sakuras will be bashed like crazy. All  i want is hinata to be more than just to have romantic feelings for naruto i want her to take control of her clan,be a leader without always depending on her love for naruto. Having her be a satellite like character just kinda dosen't do justice for me. I prefer hinata loving naruto like a big brother than forever depending on a romantic feelings that never got replicated by naruto.  :sad:

No offense but why should we care about what these people think ? They have been twisting, denying manga canon facts while at the same time deluding themself that the outcome they support is going to be canon no matter how many times the manga proves them wrong. The most important is that Kishi writes his story as he wants and without fandoms telling him how to write it over petty things such as pairings, I could care less about the fandom's reaction and believe you should do too, the only thing I feel for some fanatics in the Naruto fandom is pity because they are ultimately trolling themself and it's not Kishi's fault.

As for Hinata I sure agree with you she had a lot of potential and one of the most interesting background but all of this has been shot down when Kishi decided that the only thing Hinata should care about is Naruto, 600+ chapters into the story and nothing has changed Hinata is still the same and there's no reason from a writing standpoint for this to change especially when there's no negativity that comes from it, you can argue that her obsession with Naruto is unhealthy and from a real life point of view it sure is but in the manga Naruto is the source of Hinata's strenght and it's mostly depicted as a positive trait. I too would like for Hinata to grow up beyond Naruto but I'm realistic and I am convinced it won't happen, I'm sure tough she will get a new resolve after the war but it won't change her romantic feelings for Naruto, as I said there's no reason for Hinata to move on and at this point in time it would honestly make no sense.

 

The reason Naruto grew 6 tails is because the seal was weakening Unless you want to imply Hinata is more important to him than Gaara and Sasuke.

 

It's not the reason he got angry, just the reason he lost control so much.

you talkin' to me ?




#477283 Naruto 635

Posted by Awes9 on 19 June 2013 - 08:46 AM

I think Kishimoto is using Karin as an anti-Sakura or how some people feel Sakura would or will react to Sasuke so yes he is doing it on purpose

This is terrible, what does that make Karin's character and what will happen to her in the end ? I just don't know I really have a hard time with that.


#477250 Naruto 635

Posted by Awes9 on 19 June 2013 - 08:23 AM

Oh God Karin, am I the only one bothered by what she said ? Is Kishimoto even serious ? And what's the point of Suigetsu ? He doesn't serve any purposes.
I knew Oro's redemption was coming but I still can't get over the way it's done, part 1 Oro is long dead.
And please Naruto don't let Sasuke do as he pleases, show some dignity and oppose him for real.
Don't really have much more to say about the chapter, disappointing chapter.


#476655 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 16 June 2013 - 04:44 PM

Yeah at first i just agreed with everyone what they say about sakura as time went i started to get the mind of my own. Then i started to look at different opinions of other people who wasn' t so biased about sakura and narusaku this is what changed me to become an ns fan and narusaku and to stick to this website for better reliable info. :happy:
 

Yeah thats my problem to they might view her only in negative light rather than knowing the actual truth about sakura.
 
I have a pretty bad feeling that this will lead to negative comparison to sakura to hinata to the the new comers  of the naruto series therefore creating more negativity and wishful thinking. 
 
this is from other post ^
 
 

Their letting their  biasness cloud their judgement from what im seeing Cause the stuff i pointed in my previous post just proves it. 
 
Just two major errors in that so called newly "changed" trivia.
 

Make sure you make a good post that will have snap some senses into them....if its even possible. -_-
 

I saw the convo in your tumblr post...its just depressing the guy accused you being a sakura fan when you try to bring actual proof, but with being a biased hinata fan who just gets angry and make not so good of an argument is ok and has more better reasoning?  :confused:  
 
I feel really bad for you all that hard work for nothing...
 

 
 You know what your post reminds me of that character from 12 angry men he let his pride be his downfall in the end of that movie.
 
 I guess that admin  and some people in narutopedia remind me of that character in that movie.  :sad:
 
To prideful to care about the truth or flaw in the argument....

Isn't that ridiculous ? What will they gain by doing that ? It always baffles me people prefer to ignore the truth and let their bias speak for them, in the end it will bite them in the ass and they will have only themselves to blame. Honestly at this point I don't care I am just glad I found this safe heaven for us NS and Sakura fans.


#476451 Naruto 634

Posted by Awes9 on 15 June 2013 - 05:13 AM

But guys Naruto and Sasuke's fight has been foreshadowed since the beginning of part 2, the fact that Naruto is the only who could save him from his darkness has been emphasised times and times again by multiple characters and the plot in general, the parallels to Naruto and Sasuke (Hashirama and Madara, Obito and Kakashi,  Jiraiya and Oro) all ended up in either a battle to death or to a non resolution to their conflicts, Kishi isn't going to destroy the whole point of part 2 like that.

 

The way I see it the only misdirection here is Sasuke's supposed change of heart when it goes against everything written beforehand, yet there are still clear signs Sasuke is not as good as it seems to be (Juugo's comments and now Sakura’s and Sai's reactions) ; you have to look at the bigger picture, I think the last flashback about Hashirama and the conflict between Obito and Kakashi is more than enough of a hint that the last battle between Naruto and Sasuke will be a clash of ideologies. Just saying but to be honest I don't see how can anyone think Sasuke is good again when the whole plot of part 2 contradict that notion. 

Guess we will have to wait and see what will happen further down the road.




#476433 Naruto 634

Posted by Awes9 on 15 June 2013 - 12:39 AM

I be honest I being reading your prediction regarding Sasuke and the only person can prove that your prediction are right is Kishimoto himself, I personally believe that Naruto and Sasuke will have different view on how to accomplish true peace, so with this I'm letting you know that I completely disagree with your prediction of what might happen with Sasuke and like I said the only person will tell us if I was wrong or right is disagreeing with you is Kishimoto himself.
 
So I disagree with you about Tsunade and now with Sasuke, so lets wait on see who was right.
 
 
@Awes9
 
My definition of dictator is someone who does not believe in democratic election or consider the idea of the majority, my view on Sasuke as a dictator was in the sense of him saying that he doesn't care what other says or think about him he is going to be Hokage regardless of anyone's opinion.
 
I know how evil dictator can be after all I'm from Panama, but I didn't mean what I said in that way.
I mean that he might try to use any means to become a leader even when that means will not imply killing innocent people.
I regards of the first part of your post, well I wasn't saying that his past will be forgetting is more like I don't believe Kishi will make him sink any lower unless he really wants Sasuke's redemption to be trough death.

I see what you mean and I agree psychosuke is definitely gone but this Sasuke may be even more dangerous since he has a broader picture of things and is not looking for simple revenge nonetheless I get your point contrary to taka sasuke he isn't just pure evil (well at least what can be considered evil in Naruto). The impression I get is that this sasuke is a combination of hebi Sasuke and taka Sasuke but with a different goal of course which can make him even more dangerous, when he was simply looking for revenge he was targeting specific individuals now it seems everyone is at his mercy and what he considers right and just.


#476421 Naruto 634

Posted by Awes9 on 15 June 2013 - 12:09 AM

I'm going to lough myself off when it's proven that Sasuke's intention are not like someone as Tobi, Madara, Pain or worst Orochimaru.
I believe Sasuke's intention are similar to those of Danzō with a lest intense darkness, honestly those who believe Sasuke is going to become evil again are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment, since the furthest he might become is a dictator who doesn't care what others think who only wants to create peace on his own selfish way disregarding others feelings meaning that if Naruto and Sasuke fight isn't for the tittle of Hokage it would be a clash of ideal.
 
I'm a user who goes from indifferent to dislike towards Sasuke character and even I can understand that Kishi won't make Sasuke a full flag villain unless he is planing to kill him off, so even if Sasuke takes possession of the Ten Tail it will mostly be because he wants to revive everyone in a dream world without the killing everyone in his way part to avoid creating another Tobi/Obito in himself.

I always said Naruto and Sasuke's fight would be an ideological battle and I agree with you Kishi won't make Sasuke cross a certain line but that doesn't mean intent won't be there, he tried to kill Sakura and it didn't work not because of himself but of external factors. As for your comment about the dictator,I don't know about you but dictators are pretty evil from my perspective no matter what their intentions are, it means for Sasuke that the end justifies the means and it will most likely get ugly so I disagree with you evil is evil no matter what and there's no pure evil characters in Naruto anyway.


#476415 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Awes9 on 14 June 2013 - 11:40 PM

I think there's no reason to fear SS, remember chapter 540, I think it will come into play soon enough.


#476407 Naruto 634

Posted by Awes9 on 14 June 2013 - 10:59 PM

So Sasuke has hidden motives, he's so predictable. Nice to see the NaruSasu with the foreshadowing with Yamato coming into play but I sincerely hope the juubi isn't finished otherwise it was pathetic, I expect more from the most powerful being from the Narutoverse but it still hasn't reached its ultimate form so there's still hope. Glad that Sakura is suspicious of Sasuke, hope she will confront him.


#471522 Sakura's new power-ups

Posted by Awes9 on 02 June 2013 - 12:34 AM

Exactly. That's why I am pretty sure she does not use the chakra from the seal, just her own.
Hell is not that wrong if you think at it. Look at how much stamina Kakashi gained over the time-skip. Why not Sakura when she's known to be the best at chakra control? Hiruzen wasn't from any known clan for big chakra pools, yet he was noted to have 5 in stamina.
 
 



Exactly. We know he was highly resistant, but nothing was shown in terms of raw strength.

well I am going to be honest Kakashi's stamina is an asspull of incredible prorpotion, against Sasuke or Deidara after one kamui he was already panting and spent one week in the hospital now he spams Kamui and isn't tired at all, it's ridiculous. Sakura on the other hand makes sense, she trained for that and she has the best chakra control in the manga.


#471172 Naruto 632

Posted by Awes9 on 01 June 2013 - 10:39 AM

I can't agree with Tauriel, Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are the first reason why she is hated, this has nothing to do with her loving Naruto or not. Most people would be fine with her not loving Naruto as long as she doesn't love Sasuke. Her feelings for Sasuke were understandable in part 1, I too went in this phase in a part of my life, but after the timeskip her feelings for him were simply frustrating and now after the various murder attempts it makes no sense and is illogical, and all of that for the sake of drama. Sakura's feelings are the biggest hindrance to her character it's as if she has no self respect when it comes to Sasuke and I really hate it.
The truth tough is Naruto is even worse, at least Sakura doubted Sasuke and gave up on him multiple times, we never see this process with Naruto he always believed in Sasuke whilst the dude never gave him any reason to and their so called friendship and rivalry is so forced it is not believable in any way shape or form especially compared to other like HashiMada. Naruto has better friends than Sasuke like Gaara or Shika yet he still clings to his nonsencical and inexistant friendship with Sasuke and there are no valuable reasons why, it's as if Naruto doesn't want a real friend, is he masochist ? Kishi has pushed it too far.
The whole Sasuke issue is ridiculous at this point but we have no other choice but to accept it.