Theory on how "madara gave" the rinnegan
#1
Posted 24 October 2010 - 08:22 PM
In chapter 462 of the manga, we realize that the S6P had 2 sons, one who possessed the "eyes" and the other one who possessed the "body"
Recently we learned that the S6P split his chakra into two forms to create the two. In a full form you get the full power of the eyes, and the full power of the body.
If you turn back 100s of chapters, you will remember it is possible to transfer power from one vessel to another. The vessel being the body. Such a case. Itachi to Naruto. We don't know what exactly he gave Naruto, but it was definitely a form of "power" he doesn't even know about.
What if it works like this:
Uchiha gives power to Senju: Rinnegan
Senju gives power to Uchiha: Full Izanagi
Rinnegan + Izanagi: Sage of the Six Paths.
Orochimaru might have also known about it. He wanted the 1st Hokage's DNA and Sasuke's power for something more than some sick experiment.
#2
Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:13 PM
Edited by Dreamer, 24 October 2010 - 11:21 PM.
#3
Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:13 PM
Kishimoto be runnin' out of ideas, so he's just BSing at this point.
#4
Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:36 PM
Yeah, but the eyes close shut forever. What's an Uchiha without eyes?
Madara claims that as soon as he got the 1st Hokage's "power" he was able to use a full Izanagi. I just don't see Nagato's parents putting Nagato through some sort of surgery by some weirdo. If it was so, he wouldn't have given Nagato back to his parents.
That or Kishi has lost his mind, in which case forget about NaruSaku, cause we ain't getting any.
#5
Posted 25 October 2010 - 12:45 AM
So it's possible that Madara found Negato in Rain Country and set the pieces in place to allow him to unlock the Rinnigan, the Jounin that killed his parents could have been under a Genjutsu when they went to Negato's house? Maybe he'd again used his Sharingan to get Hanzou to work with Danzou to destroy the Akatsuki. So it could be simply that Madara had triggered the situations that lead to the Rinigan being unlocked, we don't know other than the Zetsu clones, and controlling the Third Mizukage, what else he was doing for the sixty odd year leading to the Kyuubi attack.
I don't see how Madara could have given Negato the Rinnigan in the classic sense as we saw in the flashback that Negato's eyes were normal up until they awakened at his parents death.
#6
Posted 25 October 2010 - 11:02 PM
I believe the reason why he convinced Yahiko to form the Akatsuki was get closer to Nagato, and then sought to get Yahiko out of the picture so that the path to Nagato would be clear. So how's the best way to do that without revealing himself? Bring the news of this growing organisation to the attention of Hanzo, and trust that he would act accordingly given his prominent paranoia of threats to his rule. Whether or not Madara had a hand in bringing Danzo into this situation, I don't know, but the plan succeeded somewhat. Yahiko was dead, but Nagato had turned himself into a cripple in the process. Regardless, Madara then took advantage of Nagato in his weak emotional and psychological state (very Palpatine-like) to convince him to reshape the Akatsuki into what they're now known for.
Edited by Quinny52, 25 October 2010 - 11:17 PM.
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#7
Posted 26 October 2010 - 01:56 AM
#8
Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:13 PM
#9
Posted 12 November 2010 - 05:45 AM
noooo is a dissaster waitin to happen lol
Pfft...my thread is dead...why is it that my thread always dies. People out there have something against Strangelove or something.
Edited by Strangelove, 12 November 2010 - 05:46 AM.
#10
Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:18 PM
But in the fight with Konan did he use both of them didn't hé?
Edited by Torxe, 09 February 2011 - 02:43 PM.
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#11
Posted 08 February 2011 - 08:43 PM
Madara is not only a village elder he is the one that helped create it. You have to remember the village was created by Senju / Uchiha. That was what the fight was over from the start , Madara lost and eventually stepped away. Things did not go his wanted so he left and planned a giant over throw of the Senju government.
But in the fight with Konan did he use both of them didn't hé?
Exactly that is where the 10 tailed beast comes in. It clearly has the ability to use all techniques without any kind of back lash to the user. When Madara can control the 10 tail beast... he has all the power he would ever need.
#12
Posted 09 February 2011 - 07:44 AM
I think you're missing my point. I don't think that Madara was the 10 tailed beast Jinchuuriki when Nagato got his Rinnegan.
So if he used Izanagi at that time he would still lose an eye.
Perhaps he stole another one (without the EMS in it) an used it for Izanagi just to replace it again with the eyes he stole from his little brother?
Or am I reading to much in it?
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#13
Posted 09 February 2011 - 12:10 PM
So if he used Izanagi at that time he would still lose an eye.
Perhaps he stole another one (without the EMS in it) an used it for Izanagi just to replace it again with the eyes he stole from his little brother?
Or am I reading to much in it?
Naw he would have not been the 10 tailed beast at that time. Yes of course he would lose an eye like you said that is probably the reason for the mask. It is safe to assume very few people know how to trans plant a Sharinghan. No you are not reading into it to much =)
#14
Posted 09 February 2011 - 02:51 PM
But he did use both his eyes in his fight against konan if I'm not mistaken. It is very clearly shown that it is the eye that is normally covered that gets stricken blind after he used Izanagi to escape from Konan's jutsu.
PS: Does anyone know where I might find a thread about how u can use multiple quotes in a single reply?
or wants to explain it to me?
thx in advance.
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#15
Posted 10 February 2011 - 07:34 AM
PS: Does anyone know where I might find a thread about how u can use multiple quotes in a single reply?
or wants to explain it to me?
thx in advance.
Oh just click the "quote" button next to the post you want to quote you can do as many as you want. Then just simply go click the reply button and you will see it all there.
#16
Posted 10 February 2011 - 08:50 AM
*thinking by myself (I'm an idiot)*
thx, srr to bother you
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