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Tengu Fox Uchiha

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#617978 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Tengu Fox Uchiha on 29 October 2014 - 09:44 AM

Well...

Naruto saved Sasuke, get ready for the confession!


#609107 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 1

Posted by Tengu Fox Uchiha on 22 October 2014 - 12:40 AM

Well...

Sasuke is thinking beyond this generation and let's not forget people turned back on the Sage's teachings not long after his death.

Give or take, the villages will only hold out that peace whilist Naruto lives and even that is not guaranteed.

Do not forget either that they also only fought together for two days and none of that solves their long term economical woes.

Creating the Bijuu was stupid because he should have just transferred the Juubi to Indra or Ashura and the other would have shut up before the winner's overwhelming power.

Blame Kishimoto but after 700 chapters the issue of peace still has no concrete solution from Naruto's side, just the same vague idealistic words.

Sasuke might be crazy but he at least has a viable yet flawed solution just like Nagato had.


#603765 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 1

Posted by Tengu Fox Uchiha on 14 October 2014 - 08:13 PM

Well...

Are we reading the same manga?

Based on which criteria does NH and SS have the same chances as NS and SK?

This is wennie compromise without logic!

NaruSaku has 90% of Naruto's time in the manga vs 10% of NaruHina.

SasuKarin has 95% of Sasuke's time vs 5% of SasuSaku.

Saying they all have the same chances is an insult towards probabilities.

An acurate guess would be:

NS+SK = 85%

NH+SK = 10%

NH+SS = 5%

Don't mix momentary emotion with cold hard logic, this whole scarf thing is purely heard behaviour misleading people into acting upon unfounded rumors.

When you guys take Kishi for a crazy man writing randomly to justify any pairing instead of looking at his historic tendency of following a metodical logic pattern you all become annoying fools.

Seriously, break out of this unnaceptable behaviour because we should focus on what is actually probable instead of talking defeatism over random unconnected bias!


#602842 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 1

Posted by Tengu Fox Uchiha on 13 October 2014 - 06:40 PM

The only way Hinata will be relevant to the movie will be if she is a parallel towards Kaguya and becomes the villain.

Hinata wasn't involved with the main plot of the Sage until Kaguya showed up and made the Hyuuga related to him.

Now that the Moon has something to do with the Byakugan aswell I wouldn't be surprised if Kishi started to expand on the story of Hamura to bring Hinata into the fray.

Considering how powerful Naruto has become, only Sasuke, Hamura or someone with the power of Kaguya could possibly match him as the villain.

Besides, having a new Juubi without sacrificing the other Bijuu for it would make things less repetitive.


#599770 If NaruSaku comes, the fate of Hinata?

Posted by Tengu Fox Uchiha on 10 October 2014 - 05:30 AM

First of all, cut the bias, Hinata is a fairly important character on her own right and her sub plot was the longest running one since her role in the chuunin exams until Neji's death.

The point of her love for Naruto was to develop her character and not his relationship with her.

Hinata started out as a loser who believed she could never achieve anything but thanks to Naruto's influence she grew into someone who can withstand pain and overcome loss.

There was a big reason for Hinata being the one to jump at Pain and another big one for not being Sakura.

Hinata was someone close to Naruto whose main drive was to emulate his ideals, having the once shrinking violet risking her life against impossible odds was a masterpiece to show how much she had matured since interacting with Naruto in part one.

The reason it wasn't Sakura became obvious after we learned Obito's motivation. Kishimoto had no way of writing Naruto getting over Sakura's death because she is the woman he loves dearly, so he avoided the issue altogether by gutting Hinata instead.

Hinata's character completed her development in chapter 615 which was called "Whirling and Enduring" for a reason.

For the woman who always wanted to walk besides Naruto to endure the death of her brother figure and even lecture her hero about not losing his way was the epitome of character development in this manga.

We have the terrible habit of attributing to many character actions towards pitiful romance which is the reason SasuSaku still refuses to see they lost ever since Karin debuted in the manga.

Hinata as a character developed into someone who can lead and change her clan just as Naruto developed into someone who can be Hokage and change the world.

Who she ends up with in the end is completely besides the point now.


#599424 So does Sakura still want to be in a relationship with Sasuke?

Posted by Tengu Fox Uchiha on 09 October 2014 - 06:16 PM

Well...

Nope, she would be completely insane if she did.

Sakura's love for Sasuke is that of a sister desperately trying to bring back her runaway drug addicted brother without knowing how.

A big confusion about her feelings is not taking into a account her kindness and character which twists the whole meaning of her positive determination into romantic devotion.

Case in point, Naruto loves Sakura because she never gives up and tries her hardest and this is best exemplified by how Sakura refuses to give up on Sasuke.

It's not that she loves him in the romantic sense, the reality is that Sakura is the kind of person who would willing give away her happiness and dedicate her entire life towards someone dear to her if that could save that person from darkness.

Naruto knows that Sakura would devote her entire life into taking care of Sasuke if that could save him even if she weren't happy about it.

This is the reason Naruto can't jump into a confession before he at least tries his hardest to save Sasuke too, because he is willing to dedicate his entire life to making both Sasuke and Sakura happy even at the cost of his own feelings.

I know it sounds confusing but the best way to understand WFT is going on is by looking at Sakura in part II before she meets with Sasuke again.

Sakura was open and confident with Naruto, it was clear that something deep was developing between then but once Sasuke showed up that changed. Why?

The reason she lost track is because, prior to meeting Sasuke, she was confident that her fighting abilities together with Naruto would be enough to bring him back.

Sakura was already over Sasuke in the romantic department from the onset of part II, what happened after seeing Sasuke again wasn't a romantic reaction, it was the crushing realization that his power was far beyond her grasp and she couldn't do anything physically to help him.

She felt the same horrible pain that she had when Sasuke left her and she could do nothing and that only worsened as Sasuke became stronger and more ruthless as the series progressed.

What could she do now? She couldn't keep her part of the promise because Sasuke and Naruto got so far ahead so quickly that all she was left with were emotional bonds she could try to use to bring Sasuke back.

This is why she made such a pathetic commotion by her own admission, because Sasuke had basically become a god now, all she could do was appeal to his feelings which he obviously didn't reciprocate.

That was how she reaffirmed her determination to save Sasuke, even at that point, if that could change his mind, she was still willing to spent her entire life caring for him if that could bring him back.

This is were it all comes crashing down on SasuSaku, the only reason Sakura is trying to be with Sasuke is because she can only offer herself in exchange for his return whereas he has never had any interest in that.

If Sasuke were to return, Sakura would no longer be bond to her own promise of saving him, she wouldn't have to spent her entire life with him just to make sure he doesn't go down the dark path. She would be free to enjoy life for herself and Naruto would be there for her like he has always been.

 

Once both Sakura and Naruto no longer have to run after the emokage, there will be nothing preventing Sakura from growing closer to the man who loves and cares for her the most and this is where I think NS wins hands down.