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Well, even so the fact still stands. Hinata defeating ONE Juubi clone means nothing when all other K11 take down several at once. Hinata only showing mastery of one of her clan's secret techniques is nothing special as Neji mastered that more than three years ago in the story. and if Neji were alive in fact, he would have one upped  her easily by taking down down several JCs using the kaiten spin. Hinata's accomplishment is just weak @$$ in comparison to Naruto's other friends and her character development speech is nothing more than saying how she took for granted that she was always standing beside Naruto, showing that Neji's death means nothing to her, and that she is only exists to have "N-Naruto-kun!!! in the brain"

Exactly because foot soldiers are killing fodder anyway. generic foot soldiers from the ninja alliance could kill those ten tail clone soldiers if the writing would permit it and they wouldn't even need the 64 chakra points strike to even do that.

That part is really kittened up, but what was Kurenai really supposed to do? She had to take care of a baby on her own. She had no one else who could really do it. It's not clear if she even had any living family. It's not like Shikamaru is gonna stop being a ninja to babysit for her. I'm not sure how else he could have resolved the issue of her being pregnant. And the fact that she was did make Asuma's death much more poignant than it otherwise would have been. Asuma was too minor of a character for it to be that effective just on its own. I really didn't have much of a problem with it. Especially since she was in her 30s, unlike every single female in the K11 except POSSIBLY Tenten dropping out at the age of 20 to raise kids. Now that was actually appalling.

 

It doesn't even make sense that a lot of these people, like Sai and Ino, Choji and the random ass Kumo girl, etc, would want to have a family right away. It's nonsense. I can buy it for Hinata and the sycophantically broken Sakura. That's it. It was blatantly manufactured for this sequel which turned out to be god awful.

This is true, almost none of the other K11 expressed any desire to "procreate asap" did they? It literally was done so that there will be other "brats" for Boruto and Sarada to interact with. I mean any other couple onscreen during Naruto's 700 chapter run was confirmed to have children when they were in their late twenties at least, or in their thirties when they ha a solid career and have at least enough maturity to raise the kids.

If Hinata exists just to love Naruto then she fails as a chararcter.

Oh she doesn't "fail as a character" she's an IRRELAVANT character at best with only one character trait defining her so she is only barely a cut above all the un-named civilians in the village that we don't give a single thought about. I mean seriously, just because she got some screen time and a bit of character development, how is she different from any generic "Naruto fan girl" that pops up in "The Last" Movie, if her only defining characteristic is "she loves N-Naruto-kun!!!"? she only fails as a character when she contradicts what her character is about, and as stated countless times, her horny turn on for Naruto is consistent throughout the story. NARUTO IS WHO FAILED as a character, ultimately.

In order for nh to become Canon, ss need to happen first. That is from narative point of Naruto story.
That is why ss become "Canon" in chapter 699 with the brotherly forehead poke.

Sakura is a threat that need to be eliminated one way or another.

Well who's to say that the forehead poke didn't happen because NH was planned for the Last for a couple years already? and that does not refute my statement. SS is Bad but NH ruined the franchise. because for Naruto to fall in love with Hinata, his bonds with ANYONE else had to be broken and he had to seem completely oblivious to the concepts of love at all. that sounds worse to me

Definitely but like I said NH is worse because making NH canon killed the entire franchise. SS only happened because NH had to happen

Ever fifty shades of gray series?

Even "Fifty Shades of Grey." Hell even Twilight is better, and do you know why? Kinky estrogen-filled fantasies they may be, but at least no single character RUINS the series. Definitely not the designated love interest, I'll tell you that. And even if that is debatable, tell me, does one character in particular change the themes, core messages and morals of the story just for making them a couple with their significant other official? I don't think so

Well it is not that farfetched really. I mean if you look at Cloud's advent children portrayal and then compare it to Lightning's model, you see it is his face with long pink hair slapped on

Welp my only thoughts for this conversation is  1) Cloufa 4 life!!!! and 2) Clourith, with Aerith dead, is STILL an infinitely better love story than Naruhina.

side note* ANY fictional romance is better than NaruHina!!! Why? Because NOT OTHER LOVE INTEREST ACTUALLY EVER RUINED THE STORY!!!!!!!!    

 

Canonically, we don't know who Salad's mother is. They left it too ambiguous and no explanations. Even Naruto supports the idea that Salad is not biologically Sakura's child, but is her adopted mother.
 

Sorry, but all the "obvious kitten" does not convince me otherwise.
How did they concieve a child when Sasuke and Sakura have spent no time together? Literally, spent no time with each other. Even Sakura says they only spent two and a half minutes with each other at most. The Hiden novels don't reveal anything either.
How did Sakura know where Karin was and one of Orochimaru's hideouts? There is no way she would know.
Sakura knows nothing about Sasuke. I mean, nothing at all, and they still have Salad question her mother's biological parentage and even wedding.

I'm sorry, but Sakura will never be Salad's biological mother because there is no possible way she can be.

 

 

And hey, we have to take filler as fact because apparently all of the Naruto fillers are fact now seeing how that is the only way NH got development.

It is bull they keep picking and choosing what is canon and what isn't every time a question needs answered. One minute, something is canon and then the next it is non-canon until a question comes up and then it is canon again.

I am of the opinion that Sakura, as a medical ninja, just acquired some of Sasuke's DNA and artificially impregnated herself.  that makes much more sense in MY MIND  And I can't be wrong because they never confirmed Medical ninjutsu can't do that. And since Medical/biological tech and manipulation seem advanced enough to clone, why can't they create artificial insemination?............ THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT!

Well those are my thoughts IF Sakura is in fact the biological mother, indisputably 

They say NS has no development, but whenver they talk about NH development, all they talk about is the stupid Pein arc confession. Some how that one scene makes up for 99% of their development. "Oh Hinata confessed to Naruto. Now she all of a sudden knows everything about his life. Naruto? Nah, he doesn't need to know anything. As long as Hinata knows, that is all that matters." Are these people serious?

Ridiculous. I am so sick of them ignoring all of NS scenes and how they connect. I am so sick of hearing Hinata everytime this series gets brought up. One day I want to challenge these people to a debate and really put them on the fly instead of letting them just made a dumb video saying the same kitten over and over again.

 

 

BECAUSE  hinata fans feel that since Hinata confessed to Naruto, Naruto will FINALLY "want to marry her and get in her pants". Clearly that was not the case since they needed to make "Hinata the first movie" to have that even feasible

Yes and not just what was WRITTEN but also all the implications it brings  

True enough, If Sarada IS actually Karin's daughter which logic would obviously point to. I mean honestly, Why would KARIN be the one keeping Sarada's umbilical cord? traditional or not, the umbilical cord of a mother's child is very personal to the mother, so why wouldn't Sakura keep it anyway?

The *sigh* Minato scene.
 



 
What happens in this scene? Yes, that's really all there is to this. Sakura is healing Naruto. Minato arrives and asks if she's Naruto's girlfriend. Naruto says yes after some hesitation. Sakura punishes him for this in a comical fashion. Minato notes the resemblance to Kushina, with associated flashback, and tells her to take care of his son. It's not clear if she agreed to this or even acknowledged the comment.

 

Minato, for future reference, is Naruto's DEAD father, who he will never see again after today.
 
What is the significance of this? Okay, let's start at the beginning. What is happening? Naruto is being healed by Sakura. Minato, for some reason, when seeing this scene, gets the idea that this kunoichi is an important person to Naruto, and not just some random medical ninja. There is no reason to think he knew she was his teammate at all. So... WHY does he get that idea? Who knows, but Kishimoto had him get that idea. Very strange decision given the ending.
 
Minato asks if Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend. Minato, for some reason, when seeing this scene, gets the idea that Sakura isn't merely an important person to Naruto, but actually his love interest. Actually, not a mere love interest. His actual girlfriend. Why does he get this idea? Who knows, but Kishimoto decided to do this as well. Very strange decision.
 
Naruto actually says YES. Why would he say yes if he doesn't have feelings for Sakura (anymore)? WHO KNOWS? There's nothing funny about it! He's sheepishly trying to tell his father that he actually really likes this girl who is a lot like his mother. This is not something to laugh at. Kishimoto decided to do this. Very strange. And later, when he's saying goodbye to his father, he does admit that he didn't fulfill the promise to his mother yet. Even though Sakura hasn't even betrayed him yet. How did he know that was going to happen? And yet he said this. It's not even consistent about being tragically pathetic.
 
Sakura headbutts him. This is mildly amusing. Tsundere. Whatever.

Minato notes the resemblance to Kushina. Why note the resemblance to Kushina, whether or not it exists, if she's not supposed to be with Naruto? Completely bizarre.
 
Minato says, "Take care of my son." What does this mean? It means be with my son and eventually take care of him as his wife. Don't tell me it could have meant take care of his injuries. Kushina wasn't a f***ing medic nin!
 
Kishimoto completely screws with the reader. This was happening the entire time. Strange decision, since the readers are the ones that give him his money.
 
So what does this mean for NaruSaku? It means that it is going to become canon. There is no other interpretation that would justify the inclusion of this. Minato didn't need to say those things. Minato didn't even need to be there. The scene didn't even need to happen. And yet it did. For, evidently no, reason.
 
Did Naruto love Sakura at this point? Apparently, since he said she was his girlfriend.
 
Did Sakura love Naruto at this point? Apparently, since she didn't even bother to deny it!

 

Minato's question was directed at Sakura. She chose to not answer and let Naruto's response stand without correcting Minato or even Naruto.
 
Seriously, let's consider the situation here. You're Sakura. Naruto is your best friend. You are going to let him continue to harbor a belief that you are willing to be with him, when you have no such desire and would instead rather wait years for Sasuke to come back, whereupon he will treat you about as well as trash that someone threw out of their car on the highway. Does this make any sense to anyone? Why would Sakura do this? Even if she is, in fact, a gigantic garbage fire, there's nothing to be gained by misleading Naruto in this way. He would be heartbroken. He would feel so betrayed and defeated. Sakura would never do this. If you need to ask why she would never do this, you haven't been paying enough attention to the other posts. Well, she actually would do this, because Sakura would never choose to be with Sasuke in the way that it happened. Or, realistically, at all. But that's a topic for a different day. Basically every other day except this one. This day is just about how stupid it is that these manga panels exist.
 
Rating: 5. There's no other rating to give it. It's just Kishimoto trying to f*** with everyone, or he just didn't even care to change what he storyboarded or planned to do. It's ridiculous, in every conceivable way. No part of this should have happened if he intended to do the ending that he did.
 
I don't even want to give this the satisfaction of my even bothering to write about it anymore.
 

 
So I won't.

5. I don't even need to explain this scene. Everyone is thinking the same thing. This in fact, was the HIGHLIGHT of our shipping happiness

OH PSHHHHHHHHH, All Naruto needed to do was LOOK IN HINATA'S DIRECTION and Pro enders would  be like" HOW ROMANTIC, NARUTO TOTALLY PROPOSED TO HER!!!!! THEY ARE A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN!!!!! " trollolololololololol

Well that depends on Horikoshi doesn't it? If he gives up on BnHA towards the end then maybe we will get the same crap like Naruto. But other than that, if Chibireviews is saying NS has no development compared to NH then he REALLY is an effing blind Hinatard fapping jinx just like Saywer7mage and Forneverworld and is talking out of his @$$ just like them. The REASON ships ruined Naruto was because the story was blown up with a NUCLEAR BOMB to MAKE WAY for a ship that had little if any development to begin with. Unless BnHA goes that route too, then ships are not ruining it, and there is no romantic plot tumor melodrama anywhere either. Hell, even Ochako is trying to set aside her budding feelings for Izuku so that she can focus on her goal to be an aspiring future heroine which is more than any love crazy girl in Naruto ended up doing.