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#953685 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 01 November 2017 - 01:37 AM

So what's everyone's guess for when Kishi pulls a Rowling and admits that it should have been NS as the final pairing?

I say when around the time boruto starts to fail


#953653 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 31 October 2017 - 06:43 PM

Ohhhh now I see! Kishi, SP, and Naruto himself were drunk off the sake!

Now I now why there was that horrible ending and pairings that were inexplicable! Well, that is until I realized what was in front of me the entire time...Naruto is an alcoholic!

Thanks for the undeniable sourcing guys, that picture really convinced me. Whew, that's a load of my chest.


#953617 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 31 October 2017 - 01:48 PM

I didn't even know what a tsundere was or that it was even a thing until I read on virtually every corner and space of the internet that Sakura was a tsundere.

It was actually kinda weird how much it was stated that Sakura is a tsundere, it was even written on my bathroom wall...


#953377 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 28 October 2017 - 02:34 PM

A is one person, and Sasuke is a rogue ninja of Konoha. We have no idea how the appeal process worked. A certainly could have been a hold out, or he wouldn't even have been there, but he certainly doesn't have final say. 
 
By all means, it would have been great if the appeal process was detailed, though I understand why it wasn't. 
 
 

 
Actually Sakura says after his first sorry, "Sorry, for what?" Then Sasuke says, "For everything", and Sakura says "You better be." 
 
You're still digging a trench in that prison isn't a punishment. That's not a very valid argument. A valid argument would be he wasn't punished enough, which is where I am trying to get you to switch to. And no argument was put forward that his journey was a punishment at any point in this discussion. 
 
Excusing Sasuke would be saying that he was innocent. He's not, he did awful and terrible things. But I'm not going to diminish the good he did either, the saving of the world is creditable to Team 7, regardless of their personal motivations. -Even- if doing so made it easier for Sasuke to rule, it does not invalidate that he saved it. By all means say he did it for selfish reasons, but he still helped save it, and that's not an easy weight to just throw out to balance when determining a pardon, particularly when the victim has sufficiently learned the lesson, or narrative intent shows as much, anyway.
 
You have captured the meaning of Sardonic, but not humor, I am afraid. 
 
 

 
Some of these have answers in the text.
 
For example, why would Naruto comment at this point? His crush continues to be less and less focused on, especially in the final few hundred chapters. 
 
Kishimoto shows love as thematically enduring, which I believe has some cultural foundation to it (You can see a lot of archetypes of people in Japanese works with an enduring love to a character that perseveres no matter the hardship). By his words to switch to Naruto would invalidate and put to question both past and future love, specifically because Naruto is now the "cool guy", and it would make her seemingly shallow. 
 
And on Sakura's actions in 699, I feel like it is ignored that Sasuke changed. There's also a passage of time between this moment and the end of the war. Given Sakura's unwavering feelings, it makes sense. It would only not make sense if her feelings did waver. 
 
Sasuke liking Sakura back has inferring in 693 you can make of, and has some basis sourcing all the way back to the Chuunin Exams.
 
The one thing hit is Sakura's love for Sasuke isn't ever elaborated, not even later, due to Kishimoto not wanting it to feel like a contrived reason.


I'm not trying to get into a back and forth (yes this is the debate thread) but I say that because having read everything and being a writer myself (mfa) (and it's my job) I don't believe the pairings were grounded rightfully in the plot.

Why would naruto comment? You say because his crush is less focused? Well then if that's your point why does Naruto chase Sasuke to the ends of the earth when Sasuke as no interest. ( also even as a child watching the anime I felt the reason for baritone chasing sasuke was contrived and the ending cemented that imo)

You say kishi shows love as enduring? Well that what about the main characters love? Why is it not enduring?

You say Sakuras actions make sense cause her love is unwavering, but then agree that it was never explained why...so how can a writer put something in a plot, have it carry out through and through, and end with it? Those shouldn't be possibilities especially when there are actual uncontrived reasons for why she would like Naruto......like I said poor writing and it doesn't make sense which is my biggest gripe.

Finally I don't know what chapter 693 is and I'm too lazy to look it up cause it doesn't matter. I'm not gonna change my mind and neither will you BUT I I doubt something written 7 chapters prior to the end justifies and compares to the previous 693 chapters.

But you see it doesn't matter. You will reply to this without trying to understand and see things from a different point of view. A pov that I believe is grounded, or at the very least more grounded in the story details.

Have a nice day, I won't read your reply :)


#953359 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 28 October 2017 - 07:32 AM

So after the ending of Naruto I distanced myself from the franchise, not only because of the pairing, but what I thought was truly abysmal writing near the end of the manga. However, I recently purchased Storm 4 (bought it from eBay so anyone involved with Naruto would not profit, not that it really matters lol) and so I've been playing through the story mode and I just can't believe how some of the stuff played out.

 

Now some of the moments in the game vary slightly from the manga, but their is one part where Sakura is captured by Madara and Sasuke uses this an opportunity to attack Madara, Naruto saves Sakura. Sakura comments that Sasuke really doesn't care about her...

 

Then towards the very end Sakura pleads with Sasuke to stay and he calls her annoying...and stabs her through the heart, granted it was a genjutsu.

 

Then after all this, Sakura asks to travel with Sasuke with disregard for anything else....it's like wow....Sakura really was just destroyed as a character. Imagine any person every doing that? That's some serious battered women syndrome (Which is not funny, just using it as an example I suppose.)

 

 

And the worst part, THE WORST PART (at least for me) there just is no explanation or anything grounded in the plot to explain these actions.

 

Why oh why does Sakura have this undying and unnatural love for sasuke. And how can she just ignore Naruto after everything, it just doesn't make sense to me. In one corner you have somebody you inexplicably 'love" and in the other corner u have someone who you've spent an exorbitant amount of time with

 

 

Why is their no comment or emotion from Naruto regarding Sakura's feelings. Its been a driving point since the beginning and its Naruto he comments about everything especially something important to him.

 

And why on Earth would Sasuke like Sakura back? Where did that come from? It took him years and countless fights and death just to accept Naruto, so where is the explanation for marrying Sakura. Not to mention Karin was introduced and their is clearly a better bond between them too.

 

And then of course I went and watched a bunch of NS moments and let me tell you man that OVA 6...whoever made that had it right. That's how Naruto should have ended.

 

Ah sorry, for the rant. It's really late lol.




#937551 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 16 April 2017 - 10:16 PM

Boruto could have gotten any other power up/s by bloodline XD

But not if it was Naruto and Sakura, right?

 

Also do you think we will get  a J.K rowling situation where years from now Kishi will say that it should have been Naruto and Sakura and he regrets it? Not that it would do us any good.

 

SMH why am i always on the losing end of this kitten




#935388 Started an Anime Clothing Co.

Posted by bthug on 25 March 2017 - 12:34 AM

Hey everyone, needless to say I'm an avid anime (and NS) fan, that's why I've decided to start my own clothing line featuring low key and subtle anime tees. (As those are the types of stuff I gravitate towards) Here is the link!

 

https://teespring.co...=2397&sid=front

 

This is the first of many so stay tuned. Also if you want follow me on instagram (Anime4eva1) for the latest updates.

 

 




#818631 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 07 May 2015 - 03:22 PM

Sakura photoshopping herself next to Sasuke's picture is one of the most pathetic things she's done so far.

Is one of the most pathetic things anyone* has ever done.

 

I'm really curious to see how much lower sakura can go, I mean its pretty damn hard to beat that, but I'm sure kishi will find a way. 




#782189 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by bthug on 18 March 2015 - 05:22 AM

So i read that in the atrocity  that is Naruto the last, sakura tells naruto that he only like her cause of his rival with sasuke…hmmm, I think she has it backwards, wasn't it her rival ino (and the many other girls flocking to sasuke) that made sakura like sasuke….




#774373 Digimon is coming back!!

Posted by bthug on 09 March 2015 - 03:38 AM

You know, when I didn't know about anime or manga, I always wanted more Digimon than human stuff, but now that I know little more about anime and manga I believe are  balance  between both and somehow  I like it . One thing I do not like is how they downplay Digimon   groups for example, in Digimon Frontier  you see Dukemon  like wherever Digimon knowing that is one of RK or in Digimon Cross Wars Fanglongmon like nothing knowing that he is the DNA digivolution of the 4 sovereigns

Yea I never liked that either, especially when they would down play Omnimon or Wargreymon. But the same can be said of Dukemon, like u stated he is a Royal Knight and just overall badass.




#765264 One Last Ending Rant

Posted by bthug on 25 February 2015 - 05:38 AM

It's been 4 Months since Naruto ended and I've finally accepted it. But I still refuse to give NaruHina and SasuSaku fans the gratification of me congratulating them for their tainted victory especially after watching that piece of s**t Movie The Last. If the Ending of the Manga didn't already turn me 100% against Sakura then this Movie would have, good God does she act like a b*tch in it. The scene where Sakura tells Naruto that he only loved her because of his rivalry with Sasuke made me want to see Naruto finally snap at her (In fact I wrote a Fanfic where he does exactly that but it got Flagged on fanfiction.net and taken down -_-). That was quite possibly the most insulting thing Kishimoto has ever written (and we're talking about a Movie where Naruto and Hinata fight the main baddie on the kittening moon!). I've decided that I'll finish collecting the Manga but my NaruSaku fandom is officially dead. In the end maybe it is a blessing in disguise that Naruto didn't end up with Sakura because at least Hinata loved him from the beginning and didn't hold a torch for an emotionally abusive and genocidal maniac traitor.

Don't finish collecting the manga that literally the only thing they want…they could care less about everything else….that single thing proves them right, i know its hard and ultimately its up to you how you spend your hard earned money, but I advise against spending it on anything Naruto related 




#736624 Digimon is coming back!!

Posted by bthug on 20 January 2015 - 06:15 AM

They'll probably try to retcon it so Matt/Sora makes more sense. I dunno I just never liked that pairing... Why can't the girl and rival just be friends? Why do they always have to add some lame love triangle with them and the hero? I just feel like they screwed Tai over at the end but whatevs. Taiora is still the OTP no matter what happens. XD

Yep exactly. They'll just add bullish*t to make matt and sora seem like it was supposed to happen.

They always screw Tai in that show, like seriously, especially when 02 started. 




#732873 Digimon is coming back!!

Posted by bthug on 15 January 2015 - 05:11 AM

I am insanely passionate about Taiora it was my original pairing before I even knew what pairings were. And unfortunately it was also my first heart break. 

 

I would really love for them to remedy the atrocious epilogue that is Adventure 02, however this takes place after. Also in that poster Sora is next to Matt. :(

 

Anyway, this is something I posted in another forum, but it applies here, the folks over at this other site haven't been so helpful. 

 

I love Digimon Adventure 1, one of my all time favs. I did not like Adventure 02, because it tossed aside my favorite characters, (especially Tai) and introduced a bunch of people I did not find enjoyable. 

Also full disclosure I love Taiora and when they pulled that ass pull epilogue in 02 I was done with everything 02. My heart broke frown.gif

Anyway, enough of that…I'm here to find out about digimon tri?

Furthermore, I have kept my hopes for Taiora alive and if there is ever a chance its this one lol. I highly highly doubt that they 1) care enough and 2) are willing to change the ending epilogue of 02…although it WAS never ACTUALLY stated who ends up with whom. 

So do you guys think there is a chance for Taiora redemption? Sorry in advance if you're a Matt fan. 

Again i doubt it because it seems like a lot to do for a single fan base, all to upset another fan base…yet again. If anything they will just reinforce Matt and Sora and actually give it some in anime growth. (Sucks that this is most likely to happen) 

The ppl working on it seem to come from other projects and so they probably read up on the ending of 02 and will just build upon it. Also the poster has Sora near Matt frown.gif

Sorry for such a long a post and I'm looking forward to chatting with you guys.




#716821 The Last theory: Collection of Info & co.

Posted by bthug on 27 December 2014 - 05:10 PM

Happy Birthday!!!

 

 

Hapy bday dear! May life treat you well! *hugs*

 

 

happy birthday~~!! :hugs:

 

 

Happy Birthday!!!!

 

 

Kishi himself stated that he pitited Hinata, so he probably allowed his personal feelings to override what had already been established in the manga. That's my guess as to how this atrocity of an ending happened the way it did.  

 

Happy birthday.  :smile:

 

 

Happy birthday bthug!

 

 

12 movies within 12 years? WHUT. Do they even have the time to plan each movie? .-.

 

 

Happy Birthday! :D

 

 

 

Happy Birthday!  :party:

THANKS A LOT GUYS!!!!! It really means a lot. 

 

I deleted Facebook a while ago so my "friends" can't wish me a happy birthday, but truth be told this was wayyyyy better 




#716796 The Last theory: Collection of Info & co.

Posted by bthug on 27 December 2014 - 03:44 PM

I usually don't do this, but guys….its my birthday