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[narutokage]

Exactly, and that conversation had so much more meaning than the random ones Sakura and Sasuke had.

That one encouraged Hinata and the one in the preliminaries was much more effective as well. NH wins SS.

Naruto and Hinata's conversation was like a computer crash..............its was random yet expected.

Sasuke's and Sakura's conversation before him leaving was like a slap in the face................you know you can only push a person so much before they snap.

I can't come up with a bette analogy at the moment :shamefulcry0js:

[Leney]

I don't see how Hinata's words of encouragement are a declaration of love. Honestly, the best comparison for my feelings about the NaruHina relationship is a basketball fan reacting to Michael Jordan. Like OMG WTF?!?! SQUEEE *dies on spot*

And if Micheal Jordan for some reason ever had doubts going into a Championship Game, I'm pretty sure he'd have a lot of fans who would say things along the lines of "I believe in you!"

At least Sakura and Sasuke are aware of the romantic tension in Part I, even if it is one sided. Sakura has basically stated her intentions. She loves him, it's not admiration, it's not fangirling (to her at least), it's love. I know Hinata isn't a main character but you would think that if she really liked Naruto the language would be clearer on her feelings. I know there are endless theories of what Sasuke meant by his "Thank you" before he left by SasuSaku fans...but for me it could be considered set up.

And I dunno, maybe I think Hinata needs to get past Naruto so she can grow as a character. Maybe I think about this too much. (And I think I'm off topic hehe)

Of course in fanfic people can write whatever they want, and the only NaruHina I truly liked....ended up with Naruto cheating on her with Sasuke. (Or as Hinata said, Naruto cheated on Sasuke with her). *ded*

[Amii]

I don't see how Hinata's words of encouragement are a declaration of love. Honestly, the best comparison for my feelings about the NaruHina relationship is a basketball fan reacting to Michael Jordan. Like OMG WTF?!?! SQUEEE *dies on spot*

And if Micheal Jordan for some reason ever had doubts going into a Championship Game, I'm pretty sure he'd have a lot of fans who would say things along the lines of "I believe in you!"

Hahaha, that makes total sense really. Hinata doesn't really know Naruto. I mean yeah, they are considered friends, but she hasn't really spent and one on one time with him to get to know him. During the chunin exam test they weren't allowed to talk to each other. During the fighting parts... well, they were fighting. They had that one little one-on-one talk before the final matches, and while I give her credit for cheering him up, they didn't really talk. She only sees what most everyone sees, not what someone who knows him like Iruka or Team 7 sees. (Tsunade and Jiraiya too)

At least Sakura and Sasuke are aware of the romantic tension in Part I, even if it is one sided. Sakura has basically stated her intentions. She loves him, it's not admiration, it's not fangirling (to her at least), it's love. I know Hinata isn't a main character but you would think that if she really liked Naruto the language would be clearer on her feelings. I know there are endless theories of what Sasuke meant by his "Thank you" before he left by SasuSaku fans...but for me it could be considered set up.

I totally think it was an infatuation, not love. But yeah, you're right. She thinks it's love (It could be, but not IMO).

Hinata's shy. No matter what place her character is in, main or minor, it would still be the same.

[narutokage]

Hahaha, that makes total sense really. Hinata doesn't really know Naruto. I mean yeah, they are considered friends, but she hasn't really spent and one on one time with him to get to know him. During the chunin exam test they weren't allowed to talk to each other. During the fighting parts... well, they were fighting. They had that one little one-on-one talk before the final matches, and while I give her credit for cheering him up, they didn't really talk. She only sees what most everyone sees, not what someone who knows him like Iruka or Team 7 sees. (Tsunade and Jiraiya too)



I totally think it was an infatuation, not love. But yeah, you're right. She thinks it's love (It could be, but not IMO).

Hinata's shy. No matter what place her character is in, main or minor, it would still be the same.

same here. I don't think Hinata knows the real Naruto. She knows the Naruto that struggles and pursues his goals through thick and thin but there is more to him than just that. She sees what she wants to become or more specifically what she herself lacked, thus it was a desire to be near Naruto and grow herself. She showed her determination and took the first steps during the chuunin exam. Her role was done because it was to provide a way for Naruto to become interested in Neji's story through her plight and thus both the supporting characters got their roles, after that her part was done and wasn't mentioned until part 2.

Her stalking Naruto doesn't count. I mean interaction.

As per Sakura's feelings for Sasuke? I think it was an infatuation, which became stronger as they were part of the same team. Sasuke was still mysterious, cool and popular but Sakura didn't know the real Sasuke until the end of part 1. during the time skip she research about the Uchiha massacre and then we can say that she found out Sasuke's true problem but before than even during her confession she didn't really know the real Sasuke. She knew the Sasuke that was being affected by Naruto and was growing fond of his team mates but she never truly understood the darkness that resided within him. this is where Naruto connected with Sasuke and hence Sakura's words that he is the only one who can save Sasuke.

I think she was ready to give up on Sasuke during the hospital scene in part 1 but it was Naruto's words that gave her hope and when she went to Tsunade it wasn't just Sasuke in her thoughts. Naruto unknowingly had already made his place within her heart. Now, Sakura is discovering more and more about Naruto as time goes on and this shows that she is capable of moving on as well.

[whoamii]

same here. I don't think Hinata knows the real Naruto. She knows the Naruto that struggles and pursues his goals through thick and thin but there is more to him than just that. She sees what she wants to become or more specifically what she herself lacked, thus it was a desire to be near Naruto and grow herself. She showed her determination and took the first steps during the chuunin exam. Her role was done because it was to provide a way for Naruto to become interested in Neji's story through her plight and thus both the supporting characters got their roles, after that her part was done and wasn't mentioned until part 2.

Her stalking Naruto doesn't count. I mean interaction.

As per Sakura's feelings for Sasuke? I think it was an infatuation, which became stronger as they were part of the same team. Sasuke was still mysterious, cool and popular but Sakura didn't know the real Sasuke until the end of part 1. during the time skip she research about the Uchiha massacre and then we can say that she found out Sasuke's true problem but before than even during her confession she didn't really know the real Sasuke. She knew the Sasuke that was being affected by Naruto and was growing fond of his team mates but she never truly understood the darkness that resided within him. this is where Naruto connected with Sasuke and hence Sakura's words that he is the only one who can save Sasuke.

I think she was ready to give up on Sasuke during the hospital scene in part 1 but it was Naruto's words that gave her hope and when she went to Tsunade it wasn't just Sasuke in her thoughts. Naruto unknowingly had already made his place within her heart. Now, Sakura is discovering more and more about Naruto as time goes on and this shows that she is capable of moving on as well.

I concur with everything stated here. Both Hinata and Sasuke were acting more like idolizing fanatics more than anything...Not saying that Hinata/Sakura couldn't have loves Naruto/Sasuke...

[Wilson]

Just wondering, are we comparing the advantages or disadvantages here?

SS really can't compare to NH. The SS moments we had, was actually only in part 1 really. Where Sakura mostly only fangirls. NH had nice moments, friends and some cute moments.

I still prefer NH more. Waiting for arguments here. XD

[narutokage]

Just wondering, are we comparing the advantages or disadvantages here?

SS really can't compare to NH. The SS moments we had, was actually only in part 1 really. Where Sakura mostly only fangirls. NH had nice moments, friends and some cute moments.

I still prefer NH more. Waiting for arguments here. XD

To tell you the truth if I let my bias come in then I would have to say that I like NH more than SS just because I don't think Sasuke is capable of loving Sakura as she would like her partner to but thats just my opinion.

At the end of part 1, I lost faith in Sasuke and I seriously don't like SasuSaku. Like I said its my bias but I don't see Sakura with Sasuke no matter how much people say. She just doesn't fit.

I think I stated somewhere else as well that I have read the arguments that SasuSaku people provide. I went on NF and other forums to read about different sides and I read fanfics and hell I even tried writing it myself just to see if I get it.

I couldn't even begin to write and still keep them in character. The story becomes filled with angst and it seems usually Sakura makes the compromise.

With NH, I guess its the bias coming in again as I see Naruto in there but I still don't see it working out. Can I imagine a strong Hinata. Sure I can. But if you change her personality then there is no more Hinata left. Its a new girl with strong moves. In the future I see Hinata as a gentle girl who is strong enough to protect her precious people. she doesn't need Neji or her clans protection and is more than capable of taking care of herself. But she is still soft spoken and stutters a little bit in front of Naruto. Thats how I see her.

But then when I read fanfics with NH...people change the initial Hinata. she becomes more confident and then her power level increase and she goes from Hinata to another version of Sakura just a little bit different personality wise.

I don't know if I made sense during my rant or not but I might have something fundamentally wrong with my understanding of NH and SS. I keep on thinking thats not them for some reason.

[whoamii]

To tell you the truth if I let my bias come in then I would have to say that I like NH more than SS just because I don't think Sasuke is capable of loving Sakura as she would like her partner to but thats just my opinion.

At the end of part 1, I lost faith in Sasuke and I seriously don't like SasuSaku. Like I said its my bias but I don't see Sakura with Sasuke no matter how much people say. She just doesn't fit.

I think I stated somewhere else as well that I have read the arguments that SasuSaku people provide. I went on NF and other forums to read about different sides and I read fanfics and hell I even tried writing it myself just to see if I get it.

I couldn't even begin to write and still keep them in character. The story becomes filled with angst and it seems usually Sakura makes the compromise.

With NH, I guess its the bias coming in again as I see Naruto in there but I still don't see it working out. Can I imagine a strong Hinata. Sure I can. But if you change her personality then there is no more Hinata left. Its a new girl with strong moves. In the future I see Hinata as a gentle girl who is strong enough to protect her precious people. she doesn't need Neji or her clans protection and is more than capable of taking care of herself. But she is still soft spoken and stutters a little bit in front of Naruto. Thats how I see her.

But then when I read fanfics with NH...people change the initial Hinata. she becomes more confident and then her power level increase and she goes from Hinata to another version of Sakura just a little bit different personality wise.

I don't know if I made sense during my rant or not but I might have something fundamentally wrong with my understanding of NH and SS. I keep on thinking thats not them for some reason.

Wow, deep. And I agree. NaruHina is definitely a pair that has a more likely chance. Sasuke with anyone is hard to see. It's just how/who he is. I definitely do not see Sasuke with anyone with his current attitude. He's way to absorbed in his own things to pay attention to anyone around him, much less a girl; a girl who he will probably deem as worthless.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

You are all wrong, actually.

The true pairing for Sasuke is:

[whoamii]

You are all wrong, actually.

The true pairing for Sasuke is:

Come on, again? hahas...i still laughed after seeing this for the fifth time.

[Leney]

Got three words to say about that:
Bros before hos.

Really.

[narutokage]

Got three words to say about that:
Bros before hos.

Really.

hahahahahahahahahah...............lol..........so true

though be careful is Yoshimoto. He might give you the Sasuke pairing formula

[FullmetalNinja25]

Neither pairing would work period.

[whoamii]

Got three words to say about that:
Bros before hos.

Really.

Clever!

[narutokage]

Neither pairing would work period.

see to the point and end of discussion kind of remark :thumbs:

you get 10/10

The truth cannot be denied

[PhantomCat]

I dislike both but I'd say sasukexsakura more because Sasuke was pretty much hostile to Sakura almost the whole time. I felt like Sakura was humilating herself the whole time of her crush on Sasuke. As for narutoxhinata it's just not plausable. Just like Sakura had a crush on her illusion of Sasuke, Hinata has a crush on her illusion of Naruto. At least though in her case Naruto was kind to her as a friend, and wanted revenge when Neiji trashed her in the Chunnin exams, because he saw her as someone weaker that needed to be protected (Sasuke had a bit of the later mentality about Sakura, but it just worked to make her feel even less confident in herself, at least on Hinata's side when Naruto expressed that it made her feel more confident and want to fight harder) But neither work at all because neither are about seeing a real person, but worshipping an illusion.

I totally agree!

[twintailednin29]

to be honest I dislike both SasuSaku and NaruHina. NaruHina just seems so random, Like some one just decided one day "lets put Naruto, the loud, crazy, off the walls , main character with a shy , no screen time , Hinata!"

And dont even get me started on SasuSaku

[Kamden]

Although I dislike NaruHina, I do prefer it to SasuSaku, because I utterly detest SasuSaku. The way Sasuke treated Sakura just makes my skin crawl. He only made her cry and feel worse about herself. True, he did care for her as a teammate, but he didn't show and interest in her on a personal level.

I don't like NaruHina as a Hinata fan for two main reasons (other than its lack of development): I don't like "opposites" pairings, and I don't like the fact that she puts Naruto on a higher plane above herself. I like pairings with people who see each other as equals and companions (like NaruSaku XD), and Hinata doesn't view herself as equal to Naruto. The databook says that she wants to "get closer to Naruto's back," not his side. Still, NaruHina has less glares and tears in it, so I prefer it slightly.

[naruto_han]

i would say i prefer NH more, i admit it can be cute (in fandom only). i despise sasusaku though it makes me raghhhhr :headbash: and the fact it still has at least a reasonable chance of happening makes me so

i have actually tried reading a sasusaku fic on ffnet and i literally became ill, not to mention 85% of them are highschool or sasuke is some lame vampire fics

Edited by naruto_han, 02 March 2008 - 11:06 AM.

[wakatebayo]

I've noticed that most NaruSaku peoples tend to like NaruHina also (or at least be okay with it), and hate SasuSaku. And I loathe NaruHina about 98174987298578 times more than'll I'll ever hate SasuSaku, so I was kinda curious... basically, what do you hate more, SasuSaku or NaruHina, and why?

(answering her own question xD) I don't like N/H because a] the personality difference, b] Hinata , c] they don't even look good together, and d] main character/pointless side character who hasn't been seen for such a long time I've forgotten how long ago it was? Yeah, not gonna happen. I prefer S/S mainly because I actually understand the fan's (the sane ones) reasoning and opinions (some of them). I don't agree with them, but at least I get where their going with it, whereas NaruHina - sense = NaruHina, thus according to the laws of mathematics, sense = none.

Penny for your thoughts. :thumbs:

why the hell is this in the icha icha narusaku forum??????????????