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#1 Dr. Crow

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 07:57 AM

I had to admit when I found out Asuma was the 3rd's son my first thought was 'how did I miss that!?' I mean the evidence was pretty clear especially through just vol 8-10 maybe more, but that's all I got up too. They even smoke in a similar fashion for god sakes. Argh got off topic. Anyway I happen to be on Wikipedia the other daay and I was looking through the Chunin list on wiki I happen on two different theories one could be right, but then again I'm probably wrong if you think I'm on to something let me know and tell a friend.

Before you read this if you have seen or read something similar especially here, then I am so sorry for wastimg your time it was just I don't remember seeing anything like this before anyway enjoy....


I put it as a spoiler because it could be besides it builds dramatic tension. Well as I was saying I was looking through the Chunin list on Wikipedia and I notice that Rin's markings on her face is similar to that of the ones Kiba, Hana, and Tsume Inuzuka. I began to contemplate this and I remeber the picture you see in the early manga chapters I notice that Rin (although, I didn't know her name at the time) looks like Sakura except for those strange markings on her face. I just figured you know she was drawn that way so she wouldn't look like Sakura. Of course most fans think that Rin is indeed Sakura's mom, but we don't know Rin's clans name (hence while I brought this up). I thought you know IF Rin is the mother, then who is the father? I have two different theories, I know two again but like they say the best things in life come in twos. One is that Skaura's father is an unseen character who hasen't been introduced yet and the only reason they hook up was because she was tired of waiting for Kakashi. Well I don't think that is likely especially when I discovered my 2nd & most important theory if Rin is the mother. I discovered it when I was checking Sakura and Rin's blood types on Wiki. They weren't a match I thought she must get her blood type from her father. Anyway sine I was on Sakura I started going to the links that were on her teamates, Naruto, then Sasuke, and then omfg.gif ! Kakashi's and Sakura and have the same blood type! If you look at the triva thing in both of their profiles Haruno means spring field while Hatake means cultivated field . Now this is only speculation and could be coincidence, but if it's not then Masashi Kishimoto is one sly devil. I do have bore to say about the possibility that Sakura might be the child of Rina and Kakashi, but that will wait until later, because I'm tired and I aslo what to see what you think of my theories so far.

check for yourself
http://en.wikipedia....i/Haruno_Sakura
http://en.wikipedia..../Hatake_Kakashi
http://en.wikipedia....oha_Chūnin#Rin

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 08:33 AM

i dont think so, there's too many flaws in that idea, first, even though Kakashi's and Sakura's blood types are the same, you would have to point out that Kakashi was indeed that father. Another thing is, if Kakashi was the father along with Rin as the mother, then they would've had the baby when Kakashi was only 14 or 15? Because it says in Part II, Kakashi is 29 and Sakura is 15 or 16.. Also, Kishi would'nt have hid it since they never said if Sakura's perents were deceased or not, and obviously, Sakura wouldn't have just ignored the fact the Kakashi was the father, especially when Kakashi was her sensei. Also.. anyone can enter info on wikipedia sleep.gif

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 11:55 AM

Also, the fact that Kakashi himself said that everyone that he cares about are dead will also go against your theory.

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 05:12 PM

Though this isn't much to go on, but when Naruto impersonates Sasuke, leaves and then the real Sasuke pops up and briefly interacts with Sakura, she makes a point about how Naruto doesn't have parents to tell him off.

This implies that she knows atleast one of her parents (and assumably interact with one on a daily basis). If this holds true and it assumes that Rin really was a parent, then why doesn't Sakura would have more techniques under her belt than just the academy ones?

I like the theory though, Dr Crow. Makes for interesting thoughts when considering if Sakura has any sort of semi-important background (much like Ino's).

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 10:03 PM

You're right Vespar because to be honest Sakura really didn't have much to go on starting out. She didn't have the unlimited charka like Naruto nor powerful bloodline like Sasuke, all she really had big intelience forehead & split personality.

Too bad Kishi never got into detail of how Sakura has split personality. Which sorta makes you wonder had her childhood been that messed up for her to creat another personality? Imagine if Sakura ever made use of that she can become quite lethal remember with two minds she cannot be control as demostrated in her match against Ino.
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 05:32 PM

Hopestar - I think I remember Kishimoto replying about Sakura on that once. Something about emphasis on how different Sakura's feelings were on the inside, as to her well-mannered and polite outer-appearance.
Looks to me though, that it became its own story element.

(I think it was in one of the early manga chapters; one of the pages with notes on characters - Can someone confirm/refute this for me? I don't have the manga on me at the moment.)

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 05:49 PM

There are many problems with this, indeed. If Rin was the mother of Sakura and Kakashi was the father, we'd know. Kakashi would respect anything of Rin's due to the fact that Obito loved her, and Kakashi would never disrespect Obito. Every habbit Kakashi got, he got from Obito, and since he loved her, Kakashi would be a good husband to Rin as well as a father if he did have kids.

As for Inner Sakura, I believe that's just bottled up emotions that Sakura can't let loose on the world because she has to keep her image.


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Posted 12 August 2006 - 06:29 PM

SOme people think like that. But i think that Kakashi and Rin would be so irrespocible to make babies while they're just starting puberation...
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 08:47 PM

Well there may be possibilty that Rin & Sakura are realted but I about its mother-daughter because she would have alot more to start out besides the basics. Maybe as sisters, consins, or aunt-niece but not mother-daughter. Besides I think Kakashi would've said something of that relation anyway if that were true,because him, Jiraiya & Tsunade compares Naruto to the Yondaime alot.
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Posted 21 August 2006 - 07:28 PM

QUOTE (Hopestar @ Aug 9 2006, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're right Vespar because to be honest Sakura really didn't have much to go on starting out. She didn't have the unlimited charka like Naruto nor powerful bloodline like Sasuke, all she really had big intelience forehead & split personality.

Too bad Kishi never got into detail of how Sakura has split personality. Which sorta makes you wonder had her childhood been that messed up for her to creat another personality? Imagine if Sakura ever made use of that she can become quite lethal remember with two minds she cannot be control as demostrated in her match against Ino.


She doesn't have a split personality. In life, have you ever said one thing while you were thinking another? Those little voices in your head saying this or that? They simply visualized that in Naruto with inner-Sakura.

My assumption is that Rin died at some point, perhaps in the Kyuubi attack, along with Iruka's parents. I doubt she's Sakura's mother either. I get the feeling that if Sakura's mother was very skilled or a ninja, we would know about it. Look at all the other core Naruto characters. The ones that have/had ninja parents or come from a ninja clan, we learn about them or see them. Sasuke, Chouji, Kiba, Hinata, Shikamaru, Neji, Shino etc. It kind of tells me that Sakura's parents aren't ninja, and if she did come from a special ninja clan, we would know about it.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 05:12 AM

QUOTE (TheVileOne @ Aug 21 2006, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Hopestar @ Aug 9 2006, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You're right Vespar because to be honest Sakura really didn't have much to go on starting out. She didn't have the unlimited charka like Naruto nor powerful bloodline like Sasuke, all she really had big intelience forehead & split personality.

Too bad Kishi never got into detail of how Sakura has split personality. Which sorta makes you wonder had her childhood been that messed up for her to creat another personality? Imagine if Sakura ever made use of that she can become quite lethal remember with two minds she cannot be control as demostrated in her match against Ino.


She doesn't have a split personality. In life, have you ever said one thing while you were thinking another? Those little voices in your head saying this or that? They simply visualized that in Naruto with inner-Sakura.

My assumption is that Rin died at some point, perhaps in the Kyuubi attack, along with Iruka's parents. I doubt she's Sakura's mother either. I get the feeling that if Sakura's mother was very skilled or a ninja, we would know about it. Look at all the other core Naruto characters. The ones that have/had ninja parents or come from a ninja clan, we learn about them or see them. Sasuke, Chouji, Kiba, Hinata, Shikamaru, Neji, Shino etc. It kind of tells me that Sakura's parents aren't ninja, and if she did come from a special ninja clan, we would know about it.

Unless something important about her is going to be incorporated into the story, but I doubt that.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 05:56 AM

I'm simply saying, if Sakura's mother was a ninja or she came from a great clan in the story, we would've known by now.

When Tsunade was introduced we found out that she's the grandson of one of the hokage. We know that Yamato is related or comes from one of the hokage clans.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 03:17 PM

Actually, in one of the manga chapters Orochimaru kind of hints heavily at the fact that Yamato is an experiment of his, so to speak. Orochimaru wanted the first Hokage's techniques and abilities, so he tried to graft the DNA of Shodaime into somebody, and Yamato was the only one that survived, unbeknownst to Orochimaru at least. But you never know, Kishimoto could be holding Rin back for something, but most likely, with Kakashi's statement to Sasuke, with all of his precious people being dead, it means that Rin is gone as well.

Also, the Sakura's mother thing would be an incredible plot device to hold back as well, but one would assume some kind of foreshadowing from Kakashi were this to be the case. In fact, it's strange that the two possible links to his old team, meaning Naruto, possible son of Yondaime, and Sakura, possible daughter of Rin, are kind of overlooked for Kakashi's last link to Obito. Ah, how history repeats itself. Sort of. If that's the case, then Naruto has a great chance of being Hokage. Sarutobi taught Jiraiya who taught Yondaime. Then we get Yondaime who taught Kakashi who teaches Naruto. He's a shoo-in, I tell you.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 05:11 AM

ah excellent I got a couple of replies. I just want to remind people I didnt really believe I found something I just thought it was mostly a strang coincidence. I originally thought she was an Inuzuka, but as I was doing a little research. Even though I dont think I'm right I will defend it.

here goes...

I want to know that yes I know Kakashi said that most everyone precious is dead to him. Of course Kakashi at least means Obito, the 4th Hokage, possibly his father and mother, but while Rin might be/not be on that list they dont think Kakashi couldn't have other family or friends on that list. Also I agree that Kakashi and Rin having uh "relations" at such a young age is indeed creepy as hell, but if you pick up Shaman King vol 9 of the Manga and look a little bit up on Wikipedia you'll know that at age 13 Yoh and Anna have "relations" before going to the Shaman Fight. After the series is over and they do another story or something it shows the future they have a child name Yoana (cant remeber if he be a boy or a girl, but either way poor kid) and the child is the same age since then. So even though it is disgusting it still very possible. Sono you said Kakashi would be disrespecting Obito by doing something like that I just don't see it like that. Obito wanted Rin to be happy and to be taken care of so I dont think he would be disrespecting Obito if he love Rin. I also believe that most likely that if they did have "relations" it would be just something similar to Wolfword/Milly from Trigun and they might have had "relations" after consoling each other over the death of Obito.

Another theory I have is that Sakura doesnt know her father or that Rin and Kakashi never got married and Rin married another man and Sakura thinks her step dad is her father. A few of you mention Sakura not having any super moves well their is your answer and she doesnt know and that would explain why she doesnt have and sweet moves. Of course if she IS Kakashi's daughter doesnt mean she would be as powerful as Kakashi I mean for example if a child's father is an alcoholic that doesnt mean the child will be one now does it? Of course not.

Another theory is that Kakashi doesnt even know that Sakura is his daughter. I know unlikely but lets just suppose that after Obito's death Kakshi goes home, breaks into his late father's wine cabinet or maybe steals a couple of drinks from someone (after all he is a ninja), Rin comes to see him, drinks are and words are exchange, "relations" are exchange through druken passion, Rin awakes first realizes what a mistake it was (not because it was Kakashi, but because why they did it and/or how old they were), she hurries out of the house, Kakashi wakes up with a vauge sense of what happen and is not entierly sure and doesnt bring it up with Rin, Rin gets another boyfriend because it's just to hard for her, 9 moths later pink haired child is born, Kakshi fearing it might be his or even Obito's asks her she says no, and he believes her. Of course this happening is a pretty long shot, but it could happen.

Well I'm getting tired even though I could continue I wont. I hope i gave you a little more to think about on this subject and I hope I did not offend anybody or aanything like that I also like to hear if you think I made any good points (not likely) or the opposit of good points (More than likely). Until next time.

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 02:23 AM

Nyeeh, I just don't see it. And I don't know why, but I always had the impression that Sakura at least had a mother and an older sister. (I'm not sure where I got that idea from, but it's stuck for a while.) As for Rin, I'm sure she's going to be a pivotal part of the story, though I just can't see how yet.

And funny how not only is Naruto compared to the Yondaime a lot, but just look at how similar Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke are turning into copies of their late senseis, the legendary three....



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Posted 12 October 2006 - 11:29 PM

Er, I guess that theory is possible, though it is hard to tell.
And Sakura could have a secret background, but I think if she did it would've already been incorporated.

QUOTE (Dr. Crow @ Aug 25 2006, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After the series is over and they do another story or something it shows the future they have a child name Yoana(cant remeber if he be a boy or a girl, but either way poor kid) and the child is the same age since then.
Actually, it's a boy and his name is Hanna.




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