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[Outran]

Years removed--needed an OTP fix.

 

Going through the movies (sans one in particular maybe) should satisfy me--and my heart.

 

Two small (cute!) credits images from the 3rd movie is still in my mind, glad I remembered quick:

 

 

 

ICONIC.

 

 

[jak123]

 

Years removed--needed an OTP fix.

 

Going through the movies (sans one in particular maybe) should satisfy me--and my heart.

 

Two small (cute!) credits images from the 3rd movie is still in my mind, glad I remembered quick:

 

 

 

ICONIC.

 

 

 

They were advertised together so much. People are morons if they don't think that Sakura is the female lead of Naruto. 

[ultranx]

 

I just feel really that a lot of the characters in Wing could have been better in development, since on paper, the idea is plausible, but it failed.

OK, here's some Tumblr articles for Naruto stuff, guys, like mostly just calling out the BS about a "happy" NaruHina family and how NaruSaku was really happy.

http://bubblegalaxyl...o-happy-yes-100

https://neonnerdrage...-i-did-it-again

I'm probably the oddball since I always prefered g gundam over gundam wing xD 

[ultranx]

 

I think it's cool to ship whatever you want, canon or not. However, to act like it's the absolute truth and insult people who disagree with your OTP is totally stupid. That's the difference between true shippers and obsessive fans. 

yeah shipper fanatics are what ruined deviantart and finally made me decide to quit having an account there period.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I'm probably the oddball since I always prefered g gundam over gundam wing xD 

 

Yeah, G Gundam is a guilty pleasure to me too since it's the most unique Gundam anime :)

[James S Cassidy]

But the lack of integrity destroyed Hinata as well. She was supposed to be better. She wasn't supposed to marry Naruto. Marrying Naruto is exactly what makes her worthless, as inexorably as what they did to Sakura.

No, it was not a lack of integrity, but too much integrity from people who weren't Kishimoto. She not only was NOT supposed to be Naruto's wife, but she wasn't supposed to be anything more than a one-off background character period, but it is her fans that ruined everything.

I am not talking about Sawyer7mage either, I am talking about her obessed fans at the head of SP and their intentions to make Hinata more important than she actually by focusing so much attention on her. The head of the Studio Pierrot who thought: "You know? kitten all the other characters, let's focus all of it on Hinata."

"Hinata was destroyed as well." No, she wasn't, because you have to have something there first before something can be destroyed. Hinata has nothing before that. She was nothing. This is why she had nothing else going for her except the stupid obsession she had. This is why she was never in the manga at all because Kishimoto did not care about her. No, she was not destroyed...she was created. She was created to be better than even the main character himself. The only reason why she isn't in more fights is because she doesn't have to be because they always make "Naruto-kun" rescue her or one of the other people to do it.

"Naruto?" More like "Hinata Hyuga and her slaves."

You know she has to be so perfect that even her daughter offspring can beat Naruto. What happens when a "fan fantasized" Mary Sue produces as actual Mary Sue?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 10 February 2018 - 03:23 AM.

[LuckyChi7]

You know what I love about Square Enix, they don't mess around with the fans when it comes to pairings in their stories, and that's the one thing I respect about them.  Even with FFXV's initial story issues when the game first came out you could tell, and Final Fantasy XII is no exception to that rule either.  I mean just take a look at this: 

 

 

 

 

In case anyone is wondering, there was a confusion among some of the fans, and Square Enix had to come out to say they're an official couple not friends even the ending of Revenant Wings established this too. My other point is in this one scene between Vaan and Penelo I felt more chemistry between them than NH/SS ever did throughout the entire story of Naruto. Plus, am I the only one who senses some NS vibes from these two? 

[jak123]

You know what I love about Square Enix, they don't mess around with the fans when it comes to pairings in their stories, and that's the one thing I respect about them.  Even with FFXV's initial story issues when the game first came out you could tell, and Final Fantasy XII is no exception to that rule either.  I mean just take a look at this: 

 

 

 

 

In case anyone is wondering, there was a confusion among some of the fans, and Square Enix had to come out to say they're an official couple not friends even the ending of Revenant Wings established this too. My other point is in this one scene between Vaan and Penelo I felt more chemistry between them than NH/SS ever did throughout the entire story of Naruto. Plus, am I the only one who senses some NS vibes from these two? 

Is it weird that I thought Vaan and Ashe had more chemistry than Vaan and Penelo? I was actually kinda disappointed when it went Vaan/Penelo.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I'm probably the oddball since I always prefered g gundam over gundam wing xD 

As Bryon can attest to, I also MUCH prefer G Gundam over Wing and even SEED, SEED Destiny, and the second half of 00 and its movie. At best, Wing was average to me. G Gundam had a more unique setting (having pretty much entire countries carved out into space rather than the usual space colonies, as well as no "Earth vs. Space" tensions / conflicts going on by the start of the series; opting for the Gundam Fight instead years before), the mobile fighters were unique and interesting (if weird for a number of them, lol), the characters were still interesting and got development, the twists were cool and the emotion felt real, and the ending felt like an actual ending that wrapped things up without really leaving too many holes and plot-related questions. The very little use of any politicking probably helped in that regard as it was made relatively simple (Gundam Fighters beat the crap out of each other until there's one left standing, then the country they represent is in charge for four years, lol) and, instead, went to the "guys who want to rule over everyone" bad guys rising up. Simple? Yes, but then again, it's always been strictly about Domon and his journey, not about the WHOLE Future Century world.

[Phantom_999]

No, it was not a lack of integrity, but too much integrity from people who weren't Kishimoto. She not only was NOT supposed to be Naruto's wife, but she wasn't supposed to be anything more than a one-off background character period, but it is her fans that ruined everything.

I am not talking about Sawyer7mage either, I am talking about her obessed fans at the head of SP and their intentions to make Hinata more important than she actually by focusing so much attention on her. The head of the Studio Pierrot who thought: "You know? kitten all the other characters, let's focus all of it on Hinata."

"Hinata was destroyed as well." No, she wasn't, because you have to have something there first before something can be destroyed. Hinata has nothing before that. She was nothing. This is why she had nothing else going for her except the stupid obsession she had. This is why she was never in the manga at all because Kishimoto did not care about her. No, she was not destroyed...she was created. She was created to be better than even the main character himself. The only reason why she isn't in more fights is because she doesn't have to be because they always make "Naruto-kun" rescue her or one of the other people to do it.

"Naruto?" More like "Hinata Hyuga and her slaves."

You know she has to be so perfect that even her daughter offspring can beat Naruto. What happens when a "fan fantasized" Mary Sue produces as actual Mary Sue?

 

Yeah, since when was Hinata's character destroyed? If anything her character is the only one that stayed intact, and to a way lesser degree Sasuke, but that is besides the point. The fact is, Hinata is as consistent as the day she was created, N-Naruto-kun, his "never give up attitude" and his JUICY C*%&  are ALL that is on her mind, and takes priority over anything else in her life. Her brats don't matter, (she abandoned them to go try and FAIL to rescue her beloved man candy in the Boruto movie), her sister doesn't matter ( everyone remembers how she was fussing more over a scarf that whe was making for Naruto/Boruto's dad when Hanabi' eyes were taken right?), and her FAMILY ISSUES DON'T MATTER as she couldn't care less about the whole scrutiny between the Hyuga's main family and the branch family, nor that her cousin and uncle died as slaves to that biased system as long as she can get that hunky, sex on legs plus personality that she wished she always had, "N-NARUTO-KUN!!!!!!" And no I'm not exaggerating, this comes STRAIGHT FROM all source materials  

Edited by Phantom_999, 12 February 2018 - 08:28 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

Is it weird that I thought Vaan and Ashe had more chemistry than Vaan and Penelo? I was actually kinda disappointed when it went Vaan/Penelo.

 

No it's not weird at all, there a number of people who thought the same thing. as far as Final Fantasy XII goes for me personally, I saw it going both ways, and I would've been fine with Vaan and Ashe as a pair, but given the moments planted in the story I definitely saw  Vaan and Penelo as the endgame pairing especially with the ending the story presented it just seemed perfect. That's just from my perspective though. 

[Yyubie]

You know what I love about Square Enix, they don't mess around with the fans when it comes to pairings in their stories, and that's the one thing I respect about them.  Even with FFXV's initial story issues when the game first came out you could tell, and Final Fantasy XII is no exception to that rule either.  I mean just take a look at this: 

 

 

 

 

In case anyone is wondering, there was a confusion among some of the fans, and Square Enix had to come out to say they're an official couple not friends even the ending of Revenant Wings established this too. My other point is in this one scene between Vaan and Penelo I felt more chemistry between them than NH/SS ever did throughout the entire story of Naruto. Plus, am I the only one who senses some NS vibes from these two? 

I play FFXII when i'm still in high school ... it's nostalgic remembering that time i play it like crazy until midnight when i look at the clock it's already 4 AM and i just like ... aahh... F-it , i just goes all the way without sleep and goes to school xD , that's just how good the game is , i put like thousand of hour ... i remember farming the Zodiac Spear from those barrel , the customize the gameplay and explorations and amazing graphics at that time , sadly i don't know the story i'm still consider myself a kid back then so i don't care about it. But what i'm know for sure is Vaan should end up with Ashe (i thought hero and heroine/princess is always a think in final fantasy game back then). I didn't complete the game because i was lost , i don't know the objective and i came into this dungeon like area and the monster is insanely hard and i died over and over again and eventually i stop. Sorry i ended up talking out of topic.

 

So Vaan didn't end with the princes?? ... this really makes me bit scared now and i have to think twice before shipping hero with heroine.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

You know what I love about Square Enix, they don't mess around with the fans when it comes to pairings in their stories, and that's the one thing I respect about them.  Even with FFXV's initial story issues when the game first came out you could tell, and Final Fantasy XII is no exception to that rule either.  I mean just take a look at this: 

 

 

 

 

In case anyone is wondering, there was a confusion among some of the fans, and Square Enix had to come out to say they're an official couple not friends even the ending of Revenant Wings established this too. My other point is in this one scene between Vaan and Penelo I felt more chemistry between them than NH/SS ever did throughout the entire story of Naruto. Plus, am I the only one who senses some NS vibes from these two? 

Well... SE hasn't ALWAYS been clear....Cue 15yr Love Triangle Debate over Cloti/Clerith. 

Which they then finally settled via an ultimania page "For the one I love." I mean the ending of the original ff7 could be seen as ambiguous, but the rest of the compilations made it pretty freaking clear but the fights just raged on  Good times. 

[jak123]

I play FFXII when i'm still in high school ... it's nostalgic remembering that time i play it like crazy until midnight when i look at the clock it's already 4 AM and i just like ... aahh... F-it , i just goes all the way without sleep and goes to school xD , that's just how good the game is , i put like thousand of hour ... i remember farming the Zodiac Spear from those barrel , the customize the gameplay and explorations and amazing graphics at that time , sadly i don't know the story i'm still consider myself a kid back then so i don't care about it. But what i'm know for sure is Vaan should end up with Ashe (i thought hero and heroine/princess is always a think in final fantasy game back then). I didn't complete the game because i was lost , i don't know the objective and i came into this dungeon like area and the monster is insanely hard and i died over and over again and eventually i stop. Sorry i ended up talking out of topic.

 

So Vaan didn't end with the princes?? ... this really makes me bit scared now and i have to think twice before shipping hero with heroine.

While Ashe is super prominent, you could also look at like Penelo is the heroine. 2 commoner best/childhood friends caught up in this Kingdom conspiracy.

Edited by jak123, 11 February 2018 - 06:22 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

While Ashe is super prominent, you could also look at like Penelo is the heroine. 2 commoner best/childhood friends caught up in this Kingdom conspiracy.

 

And sometimes, it isn't about the hero and heroine getting together in fiction, even if it can be SUPER BAD when it's not done right, like what Naruto did to justify the end game pairings, or DIgimon Adventure 02 trying to justify having Sora and Matt suddenly together without any reasoning behind it or explaining about that development Tai and Sora had. XP

[Yyubie]

While Ashe is super prominent, you could also look at like Penelo is the heroine. 2 commoner best/childhood friends caught up in this Kingdom conspiracy.

I only remeber the first moment , Vaan is adventurous , he likes to explore and his dream is to be sky pirate if i was correct and get an airship of his own and he is a very curious person and Penelo is like the bossy type always wants Vaan to stop and warn him not to get into trouble (these type of girl very typical/common in anime world , that girl that usually childhood friends and always sneaking to MC's bed and waking him up "Oniiii-chan Hayakuuu okiroooo" ) , i can already see Penelo has a thing for Vaan but Vaan is more focus on his hobbies. And yeah i remember a bit , there's nothing really going on between Vaan and Ashe , just a trustworthy comrade in arms nothing more. Ashe is definitely like Yuna and Garnet ... typical FF heroine that always think about Duty first and cast aside their personal feelings.

 

You remember that when Sakura still young she wear a ribbon right?

 

I believe there's more story about that ribbon she always wears. I always imagine Naruto is the one that gives her that pink ribbon. They both use to be friend during that time but they got bullied , while Naruto tries to tough it up and stand against his hater , Sakura decide to follow her bullies , she leave Naruto and pretend to hate him because she thinks stay to close to him is bad , everyone love Sasuke and she thinks that's cool so she pretend to love Sasuke too. ........ At least i think there should be story in the past between Naruto and Sakura and that pink ribbon that Sakura's wear is gift from Naruto.

[DrK]

I believe there's more story about that ribbon she always wears. I always imagine Naruto is the one that gives her that pink ribbon. They both use to be friend during that time but they got bullied , while Naruto tries to tough it up and stand against his hater , Sakura decide to follow her bullies , she leave Naruto and pretend to hate him because she thinks stay to close to him is bad , everyone love Sasuke and she thinks that's cool so she pretend to love Sasuke too. ........ At least i think there should be story in the past between Naruto and Sakura and that pink ribbon that Sakura's wear is gift from Naruto.

The thing I don't get about that page is why was Sakura shown to be so concerned? She didn't care about Naruto. She wanted to leave Konoha right after that and let whatever happened to Naruto happen. And they aren't close after that. She should have been depicted as being happy in that panel because Sasuke was winning. Kishimoto storyboarded this crap before changing the ending and then just did it anyway even though it didn't make sense

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I only remeber the first moment , Vaan is adventurous , he likes to explore and his dream is to be sky pirate if i was correct and get an airship of his own and he is a very curious person and Penelo is like the bossy type always wants Vaan to stop and warn him not to get into trouble (these type of girl very typical/common in anime world , that girl that usually childhood friends and always sneaking to MC's bed and waking him up "Oniiii-chan Hayakuuu okiroooo" ) , i can already see Penelo has a thing for Vaan but Vaan is more focus on his hobbies. And yeah i remember a bit , there's nothing really going on between Vaan and Ashe , just a trustworthy comrade in arms nothing more. Ashe is definitely like Yuna and Garnet ... typical FF heroine that always think about Duty first and cast aside their personal feelings.

 

You remember that when Sakura still young she wear a ribbon right?

 

I believe there's more story about that ribbon she always wears. I always imagine Naruto is the one that gives her that pink ribbon. They both use to be friend during that time but they got bullied , while Naruto tries to tough it up and stand against his hater , Sakura decide to follow her bullies , she leave Naruto and pretend to hate him because she thinks stay to close to him is bad , everyone love Sasuke and she thinks that's cool so she pretend to love Sasuke too. ........ At least i think there should be story in the past between Naruto and Sakura and that pink ribbon that Sakura's wear is gift from Naruto.

 

A nice fanon idea for sure.

[jak123]

The thing I don't get about that page is why was Sakura shown to be so concerned? She didn't care about Naruto. She wanted to leave Konoha right after that and let whatever happened to Naruto happen. And they aren't close after that. She should have been depicted as being happy in that panel because Sasuke was winning. Kishimoto storyboarded this crap before changing the ending and then just did it anyway even though it didn't make sense

Definitely this. There's no logical explanation to Sasuke and Sakura when all the development in the story is about Naruto and Sakura. Honestly up until 699, you could say Naruto and Sakura would get together. That's incredibly bad writing.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

What was the point in showing Sakura there at all tbh? She had no importance to Sasuke neither in the past, nor in the present therefore her appearance had nothing to do with him. But she WAS liked by Naruto as a child, and presumably also in the present before things went to kitten. 

So we have to assume her appearance was meant to mean something to NARUTO....only we all see how that turned out in the end Just another red herring gaiz.