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[CaramelMiki]

Do you think the series is gonna be over after the war?

Do you think the final fight will occur in this arc?

For me, I don't want it to end yet




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Edited by CaramelMiki, 06 September 2011 - 02:01 PM.

[Darth Krypt]

Yes please. I don't think you can top a war where secrets are being revealed and all the past dead characters making a comeback to resolve their issues.

[Blazing CobaltX]

Please, please do so Kishi, it's getting boring and the pairing wars should end soon.

[Smiter]

Hmm, has the anime got to the war arc yet? I'm not sure myself, as I don't watch the anime and it seems to be just filler material at the moment.

If it's not covered yet, then this topic will be moved to the manga forum as the general forum isn't meant to have spoilers that the anime hasn't reached yet.

Anyway, I believe that Naruto will be over when the war ends, with an epilogue chapter or two. After all, everything has been building up towards a big climax, with old characters returning and certain current characters making their appearance. When you get a big gathering like that in a manga series, that's usually the signal that it's reaching the final part of the story.

How long the war will last, who can say? I'm thinking Naruto could well end in 2012 (hopefully with a certain pairing becoming canon - cut the trolling and hop to it, Kishi!).

[K9ofChaos]

I don't think that the series will end after this arc because of my firm belief (which I can back up with the writers note of Volume 48) that the series will last much longer then what so many Naruto fans seem to believe. Though I will admit that I believe that last arc of Part 2 will hold the last battles of the Fourth Great Shinobi War and most likely end there. But I won't through away the possibility of a Part 3 being made by Kishi that would include lots of world-building and such.



That's my opinion and I hope that it comes true in some sort of a certain form. :True:

[Amy-chan]

I'll be glad if it doesnt end, but its really all up to kishi.

Edited by Amy-chan, 06 September 2011 - 06:28 PM.

[Cupcake-chan]

Hopefully it'll end after the war, and hopefully that'll be in the end of this year or the middle of next year. The series has dragged on for too long.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I think its going to end after the war. Unless Madara pulls a B.S move and runs away before he dies or something along the lines of that.

[Anguyen92]

Well, this is a big time arc that would end part two. But, I don't expect Kishi to end the series there. Though I would not mind like 50 or so chapters about the aftermath of the war and a brief summary of where everyone is, etc.

[Torxe]

I say it isn't atm I see two plots:
- Madara trying to take over the world
- Sasuke needs to be killed or rescued

My guess is one of the two survives by using the other as some kind of scapegoat... How is up to Kishi but there you have the beginning of another arc...
EDIT: probably the one that survives is given another power up of some kind

Edited by Torxe, 07 September 2011 - 09:42 AM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

I hope so. If it doesn't end after the war, then it'd better end really soon afterwards.

[Giosoccer]

I said no because i think once the war is finished they have to explain some stuff and throigh in a great ending to finish it off so i guess my vote is sorta a yes/ no answer, i guess. Maybe.....

[Paul Smith]

Yes please. I don't think you can top a war where secrets are being revealed and all the past dead characters making a comeback to resolve their issues.

I also think so.

[Fenris]

I think that itll end with Naruto and Sasuke dying, and Naruto doing heroic before his ''death'' that makes the war have a huge advantage on their side, then he wakes back up, declared a hero to Kohona (somehow like Gaara was on his "Death") becomes Hokage, and as Hokage, he tries to help Sasuke as much as possible if he's still alive after the fight. Sakura confesses her love to Naruto, they become like Kushina and Minato, blablabla,, the Uchiha clan, if Sasuke lives, would be restored with Karin/Sasuke/Team Taka, idek. Something along the lines of that is what I thought of last night. Then it could end.. happily I guess? Although no matter how it ends everyone will all have a different opinion on it.. As long as Naruto becomes Hokage, lives, and Sakura becomes his love, i'll be fine.

Edited by iamfenris, 14 September 2011 - 10:45 AM.

[Phantom_999]

I'll be glad if it doesnt end, but its really all up to kishi.

Same here Amy-chan

[desaix]

Um, to me, it isn't so much a matter of whether 'topping' a war is possible, it is whether the story is best served by ending it after the war.

I don't believe it is. I think it unlikely that Sasuke's redemption (or, alternatively, Naruto's decision to give up on his redemption and taking Sasuke down in a satisfactory way) can be resolved in the war. Even if the War cannot be topped, there's likely to be more STORY to be told.

Examples from other shows, manga, books, etc.:
1. In Babylon 5 (One of the most respected science fiction TV series of all time), it wasn't exactly possible to top the Shadow War, but even discounting all of the 5th season (which was sort of tacked on), you still had to reclaim Earth from its oppressors -- that was a whole other story arc. And that was good.

2. In the Honor Harrington series (bestselling sci-fi novels by David Weber, for the uninitiated), the fall of the Committee of Public Safety seemed to be the end of the major enemies, and it would be hard to out-do that... but there was still a lot of political machinations that needed to be dealt with, so there've been three (published, with two others announced) main storyline novels written afterwards. And they've been good... (though some of the spinoff series are starting to stretch the story out a bit more than it should, IMO)

3. Mightiest Disciple Kenichi (manga): Well, gee, how are you going to top Kenichi beating Odin? After all, he put together everything he was learning, and utterly destroyed the leader of the band that he'd been fighting from the start of the series. Oh, wait, Kenichi's still not ready to be the one to 'protect Miu' (the stated goal of the main character), so let's start another arc (that, surely, cannot possibly be topped... until the next one, of course) that might end with him in that position.

Naruto's goal from the start of the series is to become the "hokage greater than any other hokage." (and, of course, to win Sakura's heart)
His goal from the start of Part 2 is to "bring Sasuke back to Sakura" (presumably in a redeemed state)

How will either of these goals be resolved by the conclusion of this war without bringing about more story? He's not likely to be made hokage immediately after the war (when Tsunade was out of it, he wasn't even mentioned as a candidate -- the line of succession went from the late Danzo to Kakashi). Sasuke isn't ready to be redeemed, and if there's a battle between him and Naruto in this war, resolving what to do with Madara will either overshadow it (by losing in an epic duel with, presumably, Naruto) or will lead to its own additional story arc (by Madara sacrificing Sasuke in order to escape, robbing Naruto of his chance to fulfill the 'promise of a lifetime' and creating a situation where 'doing something with the escaped Madara' becomes Naruto's new goal).

Nah... the War isn't the end of the story. It might move it on to another phase, however... (another timeskip for the 'next generation' he said\hinted at bringing the story into, perhaps? Something to do with the Daimyo? The zombi ninja being released, and suddenly multiple generations of S-class ninja are -- instead of lining up in a giant army and becoming easily targetable -- suddenly moving on to launch a thousand of their own plans, any of which could be as bad -- if not worse -- than Madara's? The 5 great ninja nations collapsing as infighting about which will lead causing them to fall apart again, forcing someone like Naruto to bring them back together? An invasion from barbarians (i.e., a ninja-oriented version of Japan's Mongolian Invasion in the just-united-from-the-Warring-States-period)? Something else entirely?)

There is a lot being revealed in recent chapters... but much of it is more expansion of the fictional universe (which should create MORE room for additional storylines), not resolution of the existing storylines.

So, no, I definitely do not believe the War will be the last arc of the story.

[Kuraudo]

I don't think that the series will end after the war.

We still have:

-Fight with Madara
-Final fight with Sasuke

[tricksie]

Um, to me, it isn't so much a matter of whether 'topping' a war is possible, it is whether the story is best served by ending it after the war.

I don't believe it is. I think it unlikely that Sasuke's redemption (or, alternatively, Naruto's decision to give up on his redemption and taking Sasuke down in a satisfactory way) can be resolved in the war. Even if the War cannot be topped, there's likely to be more STORY to be told. ...

Naruto's goal from the start of the series is to become the "hokage greater than any other hokage." (and, of course, to win Sakura's heart) His goal from the start of Part 2 is to "bring Sasuke back to Sakura" (presumably in a redeemed state)

How will either of these goals be resolved by the conclusion of this war without bringing about more story? He's not likely to be made hokage immediately after the war (when Tsunade was out of it, he wasn't even mentioned as a candidate -- the line of succession went from the late Danzo to Kakashi). Sasuke isn't ready to be redeemed, and if there's a battle between him and Naruto in this war, resolving what to do with Madara will either overshadow it (by losing in an epic duel with, presumably, Naruto) or will lead to its own additional story arc (by Madara sacrificing Sasuke in order to escape, robbing Naruto of his chance to fulfill the 'promise of a lifetime' and creating a situation where 'doing something with the escaped Madara' becomes Naruto's new goal).

Nah... the War isn't the end of the story. It might move it on to another phase, however... (another timeskip for the 'next generation' he said\hinted at bringing the story into, perhaps? Something to do with the Daimyo? The zombi ninja being released, and suddenly multiple generations of S-class ninja are -- instead of lining up in a giant army and becoming easily targetable -- suddenly moving on to launch a thousand of their own plans, any of which could be as bad -- if not worse -- than Madara's? The 5 great ninja nations collapsing as infighting about which will lead causing them to fall apart again, forcing someone like Naruto to bring them back together? An invasion from barbarians (i.e., a ninja-oriented version of Japan's Mongolian Invasion in the just-united-from-the-Warring-States-period)? Something else entirely?)

There is a lot being revealed in recent chapters... but much of it is more expansion of the fictional universe (which should create MORE room for additional storylines), not resolution of the existing storylines.

So, no, I definitely do not believe the War will be the last arc of the story.

Your post is very heartening. And so true. From a creative standpoint, the story is not best served by ending it after the war. None of the goals set for Naruto would be necessarily achieved by winning the war. And, in fact, we know that the fight with Sasuke is going to be one-on-one, so it's going to have to be outside the context of a war scenario.

Madara is the one with the greater issue of world domination, so he is the driving force behind this war. Sasuke is just the conductor at the front of his own personal crazy train. He's going to do whatever the hell he wants, whether there's a war going on around him or not. So, looking at it from a motive standpoint, there has to be more coming beyond the war.

However there is another aspect that eclipses Kishimoto's creative choices here (meaning whether he feels the story is ready to end or not), and that is the marketing of the top-grossing manga to a worldwide market. Kishimoto may not have a choice as to when he'd like to end it. If it's at the top of its market, his editors, publishers and distributors may push him to keep writing well past a point he'd like to have stopped. But all that has to do with his contracts and who holds the reins.

I just think that as long as it's making money, doing well, sitting at the top, Kishimoto's editors/publishers are going to push him for more. Because as long as the main characters are still going strong — there's still a her, rival and love interest — then any arc that might look it's the last could easily be just another Pain arc (mass destruction and death, followed by a redmption and reset button).

...Lastly, I want it to continue as long as possible so I can continue to write my fanfic withouth feeling guilty that I've outlasted the manga!

[Fenris]

I agree with you guys. I think, it'll end way after the war when Naruto becomes Hokage (and does all the things he said he was going to do, like change the Hyuga clan in part 1) and all the pairings that were set on the back burner, are figured out. etc.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I don't think kishi can top this arc. Important people who died are coming back, Itachi, asuma, (fourth hokage??) I think, previous kages, jinjurikis with rinnegan and sharigan, madara, sasuke, 100s of people dieing, war ,blah blah blah..... The series will end somewhere around the middle of next year probably. In my opinion, it will be an EPIC FAIL if kishi did another arc after the war, but hey, beggers can't be choosers.

The 4th Hokage cant come back Orochimaru already tried that.