Well, we all Naruto fans hate fillers, unless its relevant to the canonical storyline of the manga...
... but Japan LOVES it! So this is likely proof that Studio Pierrot is doing the fillers for the ratings.
This link here, courtesy from Mangahelpers, shows how fillers like the Outbreak and Inari's Courage episodes had done over the majority of the Pain Arc episodes (apparently the Mary-Sue Hinata and Whack-a-Pain episodes did not fair well too, thank goodness).
Oh Japan, you are becoming like America in TV standards..
Naruto Fillers = RATINGS!
Started by Derock, Jan 21 2011 05:50 AM
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 05:50 AM
What's Happening with the Naruto series as of now!
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 06:58 AM
You have to remember, Japanese standards and American standards are different. Something that you or I find annoying or offensive may be highly amusing or entertaining to the Japanese viewers.
It isn't as if this is new, after all. That god awful filler hell from Part I had high ratings from the Japanese viewers the entire time.
The Whack-A-Pain episode getting crap ratings makes sense: The artwork was so far below standards it isn't even funny, like some of the other art flubs have been. I could barely stand to finish it, and I'm sure a lot of people couldn't.
It isn't as if this is new, after all. That god awful filler hell from Part I had high ratings from the Japanese viewers the entire time.
The Whack-A-Pain episode getting crap ratings makes sense: The artwork was so far below standards it isn't even funny, like some of the other art flubs have been. I could barely stand to finish it, and I'm sure a lot of people couldn't.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:41 AM
Well, think of it like this, you've already seen the manga, so why should we watch the anime?? this is pretty much the reason why those people like watching fillers. But jeez, at least make some decent ones like the Shikamaru episode and Iruka gaiden plus the Kakashi episode.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 06:46 PM
I think this is a sign the japanese audience is actually very tasteless on their preferences, if they like more steriotipyed episodes with bad scripting, rather than a cannon episode, their capacity of actually enjoying a episode were the character are themselfs is non existent. Well, this makes everything even more horrible, it seems that pierrot don't even care on making filler episodes, but they need to create more episodes for the sake of the audience.
Edited by alexander, 21 January 2011 - 06:47 PM.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:18 PM
Here are the full percentages of viewers who watched the entire Shippuden series thus far in Japan:
http://mangahelpers....mp;postcount=41
The highest arc is the Sasuke and Sai arc while the lowest is the Pain arc.
http://mangahelpers....mp;postcount=41
The highest arc is the Sasuke and Sai arc while the lowest is the Pain arc.
What's Happening with the Naruto series as of now!
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:30 PM
QUOTE (Derock @ Jan 24 2011, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are the full percentages of viewers who watched the entire Shippuden series thus far in Japan:
http://mangahelpers....mp;postcount=41
The highest arc is the Sasuke and Sai arc while the lowest is the Pain arc.
http://mangahelpers....mp;postcount=41
The highest arc is the Sasuke and Sai arc while the lowest is the Pain arc.
So, in the end, Japanese people also hate magical resurrections XD
That's weird, I thought NaruHina fans would like to see the confession moment.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 10:39 PM
Hahaha i see. SO that's why we always have to watch filler, its because the Japanese audience adores it hahahaha...... 
. NO this means that we can expect a lot more filler in the future. Heck i bet that by the time we get to the fourth ninja war arc it will be mid 2012 
. NO this means that we can expect a lot more filler in the future. Heck i bet that by the time we get to the fourth ninja war arc it will be mid 2012
Edited by Master Sage, 24 January 2011 - 10:40 PM.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 01:01 AM
It's been a couple years since I watched the amine! Have they done the sakura confession yet?
Fillers... there are some decent ones and I will stress the word DESCENT...
Fillers... there are some decent ones and I will stress the word DESCENT...
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 01:09 AM
QUOTE (Derock @ Jan 24 2011, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are the full percentages of viewers who watched the entire Shippuden series thus far in Japan:
http://mangahelpers....mp;postcount=41
The highest arc is the Sasuke and Sai arc while the lowest is the Pain arc.
http://mangahelpers....mp;postcount=41
The highest arc is the Sasuke and Sai arc while the lowest is the Pain arc.
What I get from that is that the Pain arc Mary-Sue Hinata went over like a lead balloon with the Japanese audience. I did notice that the animators haven't used Hinata in this filler hell like they did in part 1's. Hinata has never been anywhere near as popular with Japanese fans as with American fans. Now, Sasuke is as popular with Japanese fans as with American fans, so no surprise that arc got the highest ratings, but interesting that it got a higher rating than Sasuke's final fight with Itachi.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 01:38 AM
The Sasuke and Sai arc getting high ratings makes sense. Sasuke hadn't been in the anime for long time, due to the obscene amount of Part 1 filler. So, people were excited to see what his reintroduction was going to be like.
It was also rather early on in Part 2, and people still held out hope that Naruto had improved during the time skip, and most likely wanted to see what he could do. I know I felt like that. And then I was sad.
I can also understand the Pain arc getting low ratings. Pain was a pretty terrible villain, and the only Konoha shinobi that got decent fights were Kakashi and Naruto. And they both lost. Again.
Combine that with what ciardha said about the way the Japanese audience feel about Hinata, and you have a lot of disappointed fans.
It was also rather early on in Part 2, and people still held out hope that Naruto had improved during the time skip, and most likely wanted to see what he could do. I know I felt like that. And then I was sad.
I can also understand the Pain arc getting low ratings. Pain was a pretty terrible villain, and the only Konoha shinobi that got decent fights were Kakashi and Naruto. And they both lost. Again.
Combine that with what ciardha said about the way the Japanese audience feel about Hinata, and you have a lot of disappointed fans.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 04:08 PM
Well, I'll agree some filler makes sense to give the audience something different from the manga. However, Naruto's use of fillers is rather excessive, and especially does not make sense now to make strings of fillers based on their Part 1 selves. I'd imagine that most of the fillers are done because they attract a larger amount of young children (who tend to prefer more comedic elements as opposed to anything more sophisticated), since they're the most likely demographic to spend most of their time at home watching tv (older kids usually have something else going on).
Even with the theory of "something different than the manga", it's usually not a good idea to do too much filler for too long if you're trying to follow the manga faithfully. Rurouni Kenshin couldn't even finish because of a mere single season of filler; had filler between 2 different series been viewed the same, the Naruto anime would have ended a long, LONG time ago. As I said, I think it's merely because most of these fillers are more appealing to little kids.
As for Japan's taste regarding canon, I don't think any of us can objectively measure that. However, assuming many share the same opinions as me, I'd imagine why canon has not been doing well as of late is because Shippuden is a poor adaptation of the manga. It is following the story rather faithfully, while at the same time using filler to buy time. That's nothing new, all series of this type do this. However, Shippuden's use of filler is so tedious that it takes away from canon; they find a way to extend the same scene for 15 minutes, followed by unusually long flashbacks (sometimes from scenes in the same episode!) DBZ would be a good example of another series that does this; however, it's not to the same magnitude and they put some effort into keeping the viewer's attention. It was fun watching Goku power up and nearly destroy wherever he was in order to save the place, they would switch to what other characters were up to (even if it didn't make sense), and most anything extra they added was fun to watch. Plus, they did add a few different things to each fight, just make to them more interesting and fun. Also, as time went on, the animation actually improved and gave some absolutely stunning fights. Naruto Shippuden generally failed to add anything to a canon fight to make it more interesting, and if anything all the way from the VoTE, the animation actually got worse. Compared with all this plaguing the canon material, the filler episodes are probably more compact, digestible and maybe even better animated in comparison. At least with Pierrot's own stories, they can make them exactly how they want them more or less, compared with Kishimoto's work which they seem to have dropped the ball on.
Even with the theory of "something different than the manga", it's usually not a good idea to do too much filler for too long if you're trying to follow the manga faithfully. Rurouni Kenshin couldn't even finish because of a mere single season of filler; had filler between 2 different series been viewed the same, the Naruto anime would have ended a long, LONG time ago. As I said, I think it's merely because most of these fillers are more appealing to little kids.
As for Japan's taste regarding canon, I don't think any of us can objectively measure that. However, assuming many share the same opinions as me, I'd imagine why canon has not been doing well as of late is because Shippuden is a poor adaptation of the manga. It is following the story rather faithfully, while at the same time using filler to buy time. That's nothing new, all series of this type do this. However, Shippuden's use of filler is so tedious that it takes away from canon; they find a way to extend the same scene for 15 minutes, followed by unusually long flashbacks (sometimes from scenes in the same episode!) DBZ would be a good example of another series that does this; however, it's not to the same magnitude and they put some effort into keeping the viewer's attention. It was fun watching Goku power up and nearly destroy wherever he was in order to save the place, they would switch to what other characters were up to (even if it didn't make sense), and most anything extra they added was fun to watch. Plus, they did add a few different things to each fight, just make to them more interesting and fun. Also, as time went on, the animation actually improved and gave some absolutely stunning fights. Naruto Shippuden generally failed to add anything to a canon fight to make it more interesting, and if anything all the way from the VoTE, the animation actually got worse. Compared with all this plaguing the canon material, the filler episodes are probably more compact, digestible and maybe even better animated in comparison. At least with Pierrot's own stories, they can make them exactly how they want them more or less, compared with Kishimoto's work which they seem to have dropped the ball on.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:12 AM
Ouch! Some of those ratings don't look too good for Naruto right now...
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Posted 08 February 2011 - 02:58 PM
Perhaps they like it better, because it seems more interesting if it hasn't been in the manga already. I can imagine some things beeing more interesting if you don't know what is going to happen. Does somebody get my point? It's rather hard to describe.
EDIT: posted without reading the link above and it pretty much says what I'm trying to say here. Srr
and Anyone else noticed that the best non-filler episode was 175 (Naruto's return to the village and Sakura's hug) with 6,1%?
EDIT: posted without reading the link above and it pretty much says what I'm trying to say here. Srr
and Anyone else noticed that the best non-filler episode was 175 (Naruto's return to the village and Sakura's hug) with 6,1%?
Edited by Torxe, 08 February 2011 - 03:06 PM.
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