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#201 Narufan85

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 05:16 PM

Finally got to see this movie last week, and I was pleased. It was fun, it entertained both my kids from beginng to end, and for once both my husband and I could sit in peace and watch a movie without a hitch. I'm really happy that our sons watched the originals. Seeing old characters return got them excited. My nerdy heart melted when Han came out, the entire theatre was quite, and there goes my oldest screaming "Mommy it's Han Solo and Chewbacca!!" He was thrilled and that's just one reason why I loved this movie, it truly felt magical to my son and that's what I felt when I first watched Star Wars. Once the movie was over I asked my kids what they thought. Our little one kept saying "Star Wars yay!!" over and over again while our oldest said he loved it, but he was sad when Han died, and I agreed since he's my favorite character. Anyhow at the end of the day I can careless who hates this movie and the billion reasons why they do because my family loved it, and it was something we could enjoyed together, and we most certainly did

 

Yeah. The movie has problems, for sure, but I left feeling so absolutely thrilled with the film and I'm ready to see what direction the next two take. 

 

her duel with vader will be one of the best in star wars history so many predictions for tht fight anything can happen but if dave decide to kill her i hope she goes down saving someone

 

She pretty much has to die, right? I can't imagine a way to fit her into the existing canon if she somehow survives. Admittedly, I haven't seen all of Rebels, but I don't like the inclusion of Leia. It sets up too many continuity issues with the original trilogy.



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Posted 27 January 2016 - 11:37 AM

 

Yeah. The movie has problems, for sure, but I left feeling so absolutely thrilled with the film and I'm ready to see what direction the next two take. 

 

 

She pretty much has to die, right? I can't imagine a way to fit her into the existing canon if she somehow survives. Admittedly, I haven't seen all of Rebels, but I don't like the inclusion of Leia. It sets up too many continuity issues with the original trilogy.

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Posted 28 January 2016 - 02:31 AM

It's Disney, she could escape and go into hiding or become one with the force and appear to Ezra later.

 

 

I'll give Dave the benefit of the doubt though and say that the likelihood is she dies.


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Posted 28 January 2016 - 05:29 AM

She doesn't have to be killed off. If we go by that logic. Then Kanan and Ezra also must go!


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Posted 28 January 2016 - 06:42 PM

I could never be mad at you haha
I was just making fun of people here, you know how I am.
 
At least you arent telling me to leave the thread over a joke unlike some people.

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#206 Narufan85

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Posted 28 January 2016 - 08:55 PM

She doesn't have to be killed off. If we go by that logic. Then Kanan and Ezra also must go!


But they do. Otherwise how do you explain the fact that none of them are mentioned in Ep.4-7? I can't think of a plausible way to fit them into the continuity.

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Posted 29 January 2016 - 06:10 AM

But they do. Otherwise how do you explain the fact that none of them are mentioned in Ep.4-7? I can't think of a plausible way to fit them into the continuity.

 

Heck how do I know! :lmao: They can think of plenty reasons. I just don't think they'll kill of the main cast for Rebels, when it's intended for children!


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 06:26 AM

I was upset with rebels because originally captain rex was part of the 501st legion that marched on the jedi temple and killed the jedi but they retconned and forgave rex completely because this is disney 



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Posted 30 January 2016 - 11:14 AM

 

Heck how do I know! :lmao: They can think of plenty reasons. I just don't think they'll kill of the main cast for Rebels, when it's intended for children!

well if ahsoka and rex do get killed then im almost positive ratings will go down but whatever dave has planned ill accept it though lets say he were to kill them off to me i would consider it forced


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 11:17 AM

well if ahsoka and rex do get killed then im almost positive ratings will go down but whatever dave has planned ill accept it though lets say he were to kill them off to me i would consider it forced

 

Agree with you!


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 06:41 PM

Rex can't die (at least not until the time of RotJ) because he's been retconned into the original trilogy, though the other clones (Wolffe and Gregor) could.  Ahsoka could, as well, and it almost seems likely.  Any of the regular Rebels cast could die (I'm thinking Kanan is the most likely to die, as the "mentor" often dies in a show like this... though Kanan is kind of young for that archetype), but it's unlikely they'll kill EVERYONE off.

 

I doubt the death count in Rebels could match that in Clone Wars, even if the series became just as "adult" (ugh; I hate that word in this context) as its predecessor.  There aren't enough cast members to kill off as many named characters, nor as many pitch battles between thousands of people on both sides, and even in Clone Wars 90% of the deaths were unnamed clones and droids.  Depending on how long this series goes, though, it just might get that deadly.


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#213 Narufan85

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 08:10 PM

Rex can't die (at least not until the time of RotJ) because he's been retconned into the original trilogy, though the other clones (Wolffe and Gregor) could.  Ahsoka could, as well, and it almost seems likely.  Any of the regular Rebels cast could die (I'm thinking Kanan is the most likely to die, as the "mentor" often dies in a show like this... though Kanan is kind of young for that archetype), but it's unlikely they'll kill EVERYONE off.

 

I doubt the death count in Rebels could match that in Clone Wars, even if the series became just as "adult" (ugh; I hate that word in this context) as its predecessor.  There aren't enough cast members to kill off as many named characters, nor as many pitch battles between thousands of people on both sides, and even in Clone Wars 90% of the deaths were unnamed clones and droids.  Depending on how long this series goes, though, it just might get that deadly.

 

Who is Rex and how was he retconned into the OT?

 

I suppose I come back to my original question: How can you justify any of the main characters surviving if they aren't mentioned at all in the Original Trilogy. I suppose you could justify it by saying Leia and Luke talked about them off screen, or that Ahsoka isn't "technically" a Jedi, but all of those ring hollow to me. 

 

Having someone like Ahsoka or Ezra survive, to me, weakens the importance of Luke's entire OT narrative.



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Posted 01 February 2016 - 10:59 PM

Ok guys I have no idea what you're talking about since I don't know anything about sw except this mobie but

Who do you think is Rey's real family? There are a lot of theories around that on YT. Is Luke her dad? Idk since Maz said the ones that left her on Jakuu wouldnt be coming back, but Luke would. Maybe she was taken from her real family then. I understand family is an important sw theme, not just bonds but blood as well. I at least hope she's not just a random trash collector.

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 11:10 PM

 

Who is Rex and how was he retconned into the OT?

 

I suppose I come back to my original question: How can you justify any of the main characters surviving if they aren't mentioned at all in the Original Trilogy. I suppose you could justify it by saying Leia and Luke talked about them off screen, or that Ahsoka isn't "technically" a Jedi, but all of those ring hollow to me. 

 

Having someone like Ahsoka or Ezra survive, to me, weakens the importance of Luke's entire OT narrative.

 

He's not got a speaking role, but (as TVTropes puts it) Word of God is he's the white-bearded guy who was part of Han and Leia's team on Endor.  His character design in Rebels is also modeled on that guy.

 

As far as Ahsoka or Ezra surviving, it's just as likely as it was in the Legends continuity, and there were dozens of survivors in Legends.  (And the idea might be that Luke's Jedi trainers feared that, if he knew about the existance of other Jedi, his training would be compromised, and therefore he was never told about any other Jedi survivors.  Or at least a half-truth "from a certain point of view," as none of the remaining Jedi were ever knights.  Of course, in the Legends continuity, it was simply that every Jedi or group of Jedi believed themselves to be the only survivors, and never attempted to contact any of the others)

 

I will note that one of the things Rebels does is do a lot of call-backs to the "first draft" material from the Original Trilogy (the original concept art from Ralph McQuarrie, certain character backgrounds, etc).  Well, one of the original plans for "Return of the Jedi" had it that Leia was NOT Luke's sister, and the "other" Yoda spoke of was another apprentice on another planet (who Luke finding and rescuing was the subject of a proposed 4th movie; the reason they made the "other" Leia, instead, was that they decided they wouldn't be doing that 4th movie, after all).  So, perhaps Ezra is going to be that "other," and Obi Wan's Force Ghost was again only telling Luke something "from a certain point of view."


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Posted 17 February 2016 - 04:53 AM

The guys from How it should've ended finally made this:


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 01 March 2016 - 09:45 AM

 

Who is Rex and how was he retconned into the OT?

 

I suppose I come back to my original question: How can you justify any of the main characters surviving if they aren't mentioned at all in the Original Trilogy. I suppose you could justify it by saying Leia and Luke talked about them off screen, or that Ahsoka isn't "technically" a Jedi, but all of those ring hollow to me. 

 

Having someone like Ahsoka or Ezra survive, to me, weakens the importance of Luke's entire OT narrative.

 

 

Who is Rex and how was he retconned into the OT?

 

I suppose I come back to my original question: How can you justify any of the main characters surviving if they aren't mentioned at all in the Original Trilogy. I suppose you could justify it by saying Leia and Luke talked about them off screen, or that Ahsoka isn't "technically" a Jedi, but all of those ring hollow to me. 

 

Having someone like Ahsoka or Ezra survive, to me, weakens the importance of Luke's entire OT narrative.

ezra is falling to the darkside https://youtu.be/Lx1YzsOwC8U


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Posted 18 March 2016 - 11:15 PM

https://youtu.be/BJTF77uy0iQ their long awaited meeting has come at last


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Posted 18 March 2016 - 11:29 PM

https://youtu.be/BJTF77uy0iQ their long awaited meeting has come at last

 

 

THE EMOTIONS MAN 

 

Holy I don't think I contain them for this... 


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THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!


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Posted 19 March 2016 - 12:10 AM

 

 

THE EMOTIONS MAN 

 

Holy I don't think I contain them for this... 

im friends with the voice actor and im meeting her again at wondercon


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