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#61 James S Cassidy

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Aug 31 2010, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
4. Naruto is not really a taijutsu person because he's more of a chakra tank.
Reason: KB & A's fighting style is perfect for a chakra tank like Naruto because it requires chakra and is incredibly powerful. It doesn't require fancy moves or difficult combos, it's in the form of basic wrestling.


Wow, you completely missed the point of this statement, didn't you? Everyone in the Naruto universe can do taijutsu, but not every single person has mastery of taijutsu. Sakura has taijutsu, Naruto has taijutsu. It's like "everyone can make shadow clones, but Naruto is the master of it since he can create thousands at a time without tiring." This is what it is meant to be a chakra tank.

You would never say that Naruto has more taijutsu ability than Rock Lee or Gai. Naruto can fight hand to hand, but if he JUST used hand to hand combat. Rock lee would definitely beat him. Don't be an a**hole K9ofChaos. You don't even read the post correctly sometimes and you certainly don't need to insult everyone who differs from you.

Naruto can't really do KB and A's wrestle style because he is not built for it. Look at how they are built. They can perform said moves and not hurt themselves. Naruto wouldn't be able to do it, not because of lack of strength, but because he would probably hurt himself too much in the process.

Do you understand?

As for your "no excuses"....well then I will say "any and all of your opinions from this point on are now null in-void."

Edited by James S Cassidy, 02 September 2010 - 09:12 PM.

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#62 Black Rose

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:04 PM

Whoa, whoa, guys that smells like a fight! Calm down a lil bit! Although I gotta agree with JSC...

 

 


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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:57 PM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Sep 2 2010, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really? I wrote down some arguments and this is what you have to say? This is your comeback to mine? Are you even trying to put effort into debating against my arguments? Do you even have a good argument against mine? Can you even think of one at all? Is all you can think of is being a wise guy by typing one sentence acting like you know everything without putting any effort into forming an argument against someone you disagree with? So far you haven't typed anything that's more then one sentence to even be considered an argument. It seems like you don't have anything to say to disprove my arguments so you use wise cracking statements that only take one sentence to type because you can't think of any evidence to back up your argument that Naruto will become a Ninja Jesus clone (his so called "new form" resembling Ninja Jesus doesn't count as proof so don't use that excuse). Since when were you under the impression that you weren't wishfully thinking yourself? I was referring to yours and others wishful thinking of Naruto having the Rinnegan, all five elements, and the Ten Tailed Beast. If that was a typo and you meant to type "was", trust me, that is wishful thinking that would make Naruto a mary sue. Also if you must know, the "no excuses" part was typed for anyone that wanted to try and debate against my arguments.


I kind of feel bad that you actually thought I was even trying to debate with you and kind of went a little crazy over it. The only reason why I used (laugh.gif) was because I could tell you were getting mad in the first place and over something ridiculous.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 02 September 2010 - 11:01 PM.


#64 K9ofChaos

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 03:27 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Sep 2 2010, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, you completely missed the point of this statement, didn't you? Everyone in the Naruto universe can do taijutsu, but not every single person has mastery of taijutsu. Sakura has taijutsu, Naruto has taijutsu. It's like "everyone can make shadow clones, but Naruto is the master of it since he can create thousands at a time without tiring." This is what it is meant to be a chakra tank.

You would never say that Naruto has more taijutsu ability than Rock Lee or Gai. Naruto can fight hand to hand, but if he JUST used hand to hand combat. Rock lee would definitely beat him. Don't be an a**hole K9ofChaos. You don't even read the post correctly sometimes and you certainly don't need to insult everyone who differs from you.

Naruto can't really do KB and A's wrestle style because he is not built for it. Look at how they are built. They can perform said moves and not hurt themselves. Naruto wouldn't be able to do it, not because of lack of strength, but because he would probably hurt himself too much in the process.

Do you understand?

As for your "no excuses"....well then I will say "any and all of your opinions from this point on are now null in-void."



I find it hypocritical that your telling me not to be an a**hole yet you yourself are under minding me by stating that my opinions don't matter anymore. It's kind of a low blow but your right, I went overboard and I'm sorry about it. I can go overboard from time to time. I make mistakes like everyone else and I'm truly sorry. I didn't choose my words carefully and I'm truly, deeply sorry. I never meant to show hostility towards anyone but I didn't think twice about it. I should've tried to get my point across without offending anyone. I'm so sorry for my stupid brain and meaningless existence. I mean no ill will to anyone and I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire and I'm so truly, deeply, sincerely sorry.


Once again, I'm so sorry and I mean no ill will to anyone.

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 11:25 PM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Sep 2 2010, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's kind of a low blow but your right, I went overboard and I'm sorry about it. I can go overboard from time to time. I make mistakes like everyone else and I'm truly sorry. I didn't choose my words carefully and I'm truly, deeply sorry. I never meant to show hostility towards anyone but I didn't think twice about it. I should've tried to get my point across without offending anyone. I'm so sorry for my stupid brain and meaningless existence. I mean no ill will to anyone and I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire and I'm so truly, deeply, sincerely sorry.


Once again, I'm so sorry and I mean no ill will to anyone.


I apologise if also offended you, i know you like the bijuu cloak mode and i should've respected your opinion more but i didn't like how his new form was being dismissed easily.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 03 September 2010 - 11:28 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2010 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Sep 3 2010, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I apologise if also offended you, i know you like the bijuu cloak mode and i should've respected your opinion more but i didn't like how his new form was being dismissed easily.




Thank you for apologizing too. I was offended about that comment you made about my manga experience (I have a fair amount of expierience with manga but I'm also trying expand on the list of manga/anime I read/watch) but that's all in the past and I'm feeling a lot better now. smile.gif


What I was trying to say was that I think it's unlikely that Naruto would get the Rinnegan, all five elements, and become the Ten Tails Jinchuriki and that I think it would make him a little two overpowered in my opinion. I should of said that so that I would be respecting your opinion. I shouldn't have gotten carried away so I'm sorry about this.


Once again, I'm sorry for this whole incident. I hope that everyones happy and we can put this whole thing aside now. You've apologized, I've apologized, we both apologized. So to lighten up the mood, I present you a funny video as a token of hope that we can learn from our mistakes and respect others opinions and disagree with them respectfully by stating why we disagree with them.





Take care now. happy.gif


NOTE: I just added the video to lighten up the mood in the hopes of making this a little less gloomy. You know, to cheer ourselves up a little so that we can seal the deal and make it official that we both made up after that fight. laugh.gif

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 03:44 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 23 2010, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is so true. It good that Naruto have insanely super powerful jutsu but that could be a pretty good idea to give him, let just say, less destructive attack. I wouldn't mind if Naruto learn some jutsu from other elements, that could be very resourceful.


i agree, i mean he must learn some kind of strong jutsus right? not saying rasengan isnt strong its just weird, seriously
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Posted 21 December 2010 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE (The Sharingan @ Feb 22 2010, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, so I was thinking about this recently: Who has Naruto actually hit with the rasengan? And I mean the regular rasengan, not oodama, shurikan or the other sage-tech one. The only one I can think of is Kabuto... from when he first learned it. I MUST be forgetting someone, 'cause it is Naruto's main jutsu and it wouldn't make sense if it only hit one person definitively. And no, I am not counting the people he hit in the filler, like the guy from the rain village where they go and meet that Idate guy or whatever. Or when he used the rasengan on his ramen to mix it up facepalm.png

Does anyone know who he has actually hit with the basic rasengan?

Well the whole point is that he perfects the technique and the basic rasengan is only like the "practice stage" of the technique. So the reason he never uses it is because he perfected the technique long ago.
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 05:06 AM

Rasengan is very useful. It is the "downgrade" of the tailed beast ball as far as beast to human is concerned.

You can put your own nature manipulation, enhance it, create whirlpools underwater, it can be used for both long range and short range. Short range for any normal person, long range for a senjutsu master.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:44 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Dec 21 2010, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rasengan is very useful. It is the "downgrade" of the tailed beast ball as far as beast to human is concerned.

You can put your own nature manipulation, enhance it, create whirlpools underwater, it can be used for both long range and short range. Short range for any normal person, long range for a senjutsu master.



Pretty much this. What we have to remember is that Minato never finished the technique, only created it. What Naruto's doing is basically completing and enhancing the Rasengan. Although it is pretty annoying that he's had to rely on Shadow Clone and Rasengan, but Naruto's ability to think on the fly and use shadow clones in various, creative and cunning ways, makes him a very versatile fighter. His signature move kinda reflects that too.




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