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[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Can't argue with that. I'm don't understand how Sauke doesn't understand that all shinobi might be already dead (drained of chakra) by the time he and Naruto defeat Madara.

Neither do I I mean all it shows is that Sasuke does not care about people and wouldn't be a good Hokage.

[narusaku256]

That doesn't help that much though. Here's a question, what do you think she thinks along that line.

A) He doesn't care...My love...just keeps fading...
B) He doesn't care...Team 7...isn't the same...

That's the problem. We don't know if it's about Team 7. We don't know if it's about her love. It's vague to know what is the main reason behind it.

Man, you put me in a fix XD. Okay I have to reconsider why I think that way. But since you have asked that question, I'll tell what I think and why is it so. The moments she shared with Naruto, everyone's opinion on Sakura's feelings, I agree with all of them. Now, it seems as if she sub-consciously loves Naruto and not consciously because she seems to shrouded by, 'But I love Sasuke kun' thing. This cannot be the reality as we all know. Maybe she did have feelings for Sasuke but presently she just 'convinces' herself that she still trusts Sasuke. I'll give you an example. When Sai had asked Sakura about her opinions on Sasuke coming back, what she replied was 'Its good Sasuke kun came back and....I trust him'. Now Sai cannot be lying about her fake smile since he was once fooled by it and fooling him second time in case of smiles was next to impossible. So since, Sai cannot lie it does mean Sakura was lying. Following thought might have flashed Sakura's mind, 'Sasuke kun is back on our side. But I think he has ulteriour motives. Can I...trust him? No, I should trust him, he does not have ulterior motives'. Even she knows that's not true but she just convinces herself that what she is thinking is not true. I am not saying it is like this, but it CAN be like this. In the same way, maybe she knows she doesn't love Sasuke anymore but she just keeps convincing herself that she still loves Sasuke and that is why continues to get affected by him when she shouldn't. And because she keeps convincing herself she cannot move on, but apprently true feelings surface in one way or the other in her case, the dire situations. When she is put in a dire situation, her true feelings for Naruto surface and apparently she doesn't know it. It just happens naturally because obviously she has feelings for Naruto. This goes in line with her expressions we got when Yamato said 'Sakura just by looking at you I can tell that you really...'. Sakura knew right what Yamato had to say and her expressions were that of an astonished girl. That's why I say in dire situations, her true feelings come up and apparently they come out 'naturally' and she is not aware of them and this is exactly why she still thinks she loves Sasuke and keeps convincing herself for that. Not saying it is this way, but it can be that way since what I can do is just estimate behind the curtain scenario. I don't know for sure, but based on a similar experience, I say this.

[Shashank95]

I really don't get SS and NH fans..

 

So, yesterday 678 came out and it could not be more clearer that Sasuke does not really care about Sakura or respect her either, and that the naruhina moment was a dream that was not even going to come true :| because all of their dreams were about things that were unreachable or weren't going to happen, and it's clear as day that it paralleled Lee's and Ino's dream.

 

So anyways, I went on tumblr to see what the ships had to say about this chapter (which is probably a mistake I'll never make again) and I was like...really?

 

SS fans are saying that this means something big is going to happen between Sakura and Sasuke

 

And NH fans are saying that the dream counts and this proves that NH will be canon and they are saying since it was a just dream to us then the CPR moment is just CPR and in RTN when Naruto saved Sakura, was just a movie and they were in a genjutsu :|

 

And they also just love to point out the fact that Sai asked Naruto on his feelings for her before the confession, and that Naruto has never said he loves her :|

 

Sighs I sighed and facepalmed myself so much yesterday, I was like what is wrong with these people? what are they not getting? lolll what?

After reading the excuses, I'm like.....

[narusaku256]

 
And I forgot to add that Sasuke is a poor leader. A good one knows that all human resources should be used when the situation is between life and death. He sees only one threat (Madara) and forgets about the Tree and its prisoners. That's an evident  error of judgement.

Apparently he tries to control everyone whereas a true leader shows people the right way and guides them and not control them, like Naruto.

[Dalton.T.R]

I really don't get SS and NH fans..

 

So, yesterday 678 came out and it could not be more clearer that Sasuke does not really care about Sakura or respect her either, and that the naruhina moment was a dream that was not even going to come true :| because all of their dreams were about things that were unreachable or weren't going to happen, and it's clear as day that it paralleled Lee's and Ino's dream.

 

So anyways, I went on tumblr to see what the ships had to say about this chapter (which is probably a mistake I'll never make again) and I was like...really?

 

SS fans are saying that this means something big is going to happen between Sakura and Sasuke

 

And NH fans are saying that the dream counts and this proves that NH will be canon and they are saying since it was a just dream to us then the CPR moment is just CPR and in RTN when Naruto saved Sakura, was just a movie and they were in a genjutsu :|

 

And they also just love to point out the fact that Sai asked Naruto on his feelings for her before the confession, and that Naruto has never said he loves her :|

 

Sighs I sighed and facepalmed myself so much yesterday, I was like what is wrong with these people? what are they not getting? lolll what?

It's best to just ignore them. At this point, they'll pull anything out of the sky to support their ship. Seriously...save yourself the headache and limit the number of Naruto related websites you go to because you'll leave with a headache from the amount of BS you just read. YouTube is pretty high on a list of places not to go to. Unless it's a page I found here, I don't even bother with Naruto related stuff on the internet...period.

 

This is just the beginning of the 'excuses' they'll be coming up with to support their ship.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Man, you put me in a fix XD. Okay I have to reconsider why I think that way. But since you have asked that question, I'll tell what I think and why is it so. The moments she shared with Naruto, everyone's opinion on Sakura's feelings, I agree with all of them. Now, it seems as if she sub-consciously loves Naruto and not consciously because she seems to shrouded by, 'But I love Sasuke kun' thing. This cannot be the reality as we all know. Maybe she did have feelings for Sasuke but presently she just 'convinces' herself that she still trusts Sasuke. I'll give you an example. When Sai had asked Sakura about her opinions on Sasuke coming back, what she replied was 'Its good Sasuke kun came back and....I trust him'. Now Sai cannot be lying about her fake smile since he was once fooled by it and fooling him second time in case of smiles was next to impossible. So since, Sai cannot lie it does mean Sakura was lying. Following thought might have flashed Sakura's mind, 'Sasuke kun is back on our side. But I think he has ulteriour motives. Can I...trust him? No, I should trust him, he does not have ulterior motives'. Even she knows that's not true but she just convinces herself that what she is thinking is not true. I am not saying it is like this, but it CAN be like this. In the same way, maybe she knows she doesn't love Sasuke anymore but she just keeps convincing herself that she still loves Sasuke and that is why continues to get affected by him when she shouldn't. And because she keeps convincing herself she cannot move on, but apprently true feelings surface in one way or the other in her case, the dire situations. When she is put in a dire situation, her true feelings for Naruto surface and apparently she doesn't know it. It just happens naturally because obviously she has feelings for Naruto. This goes in line with her expressions we got when Yamato said 'Sakura just by looking at you I can tell that you really...'. Sakura knew right what Yamato had to say and her expressions were that of an astonished girl. That's why I say in dire situations, her true feelings come up and apparently they come out 'naturally' and she is not aware of them and this is exactly why she still thinks she loves Sasuke and keeps convincing herself for that. Not saying it is this way, but it can be that way since what I can do is just estimate behind the curtain scenario. I don't know for sure, but based on a similar experience, I say this.

I'll say this: I do believe she's trying to convince herself rather than being truthful. That said it still doesn't indicate it's about love. It's about Team 7 being together once again. It could include love but we don't know yet. We only know that it has more on Team 7 so far. When Sasuke shows up, it has been nothing but Team 7 related. I'm surprised that no one said this part. And what separates from Naruto's part is that Sakura refers to him alone. This is why 663 has so much edge over anything because maybe Sakura should refer Naruto to Team 7 like "don't die. Team 7 is back. We can't lose you." But no, it's about his life and dream. That's solo talk.

So, I understand why you feels this way. It's just I'm not convinced if it's about love at this time. I don't know the true moral of this whole thing, but soon, we'll know.

[narusaku256]

I'll say this: I do believe she's trying to convince herself rather than being truthful. That said it still doesn't indicate it's about love. It's about Team 7 being together once again. It could include love but we don't know yet. We only know that it has more on Team 7 so far. When Sasuke shows up, it has been nothing but Team 7 related. I'm surprised that no one said this part. And what separates from Naruto's part is that Sakura refers to him alone. This is why 663 has so much edge over anything because maybe Sakura should refer Naruto to Team 7 like "don't die. Team 7 is back. We can't lose you." But no, it's about his life and dream. That's solo talk.

So, I understand why you feels this way. It's just I'm not convinced if it's about love at this time. I don't know the true moral of this whole thing, but soon, we'll know.

Yeah I undestand. While I generally agree with your interpretations and ofcourse others as well, its just that. for these two scenes, I cannot. But as you say, we'll get answers to our questions soon . Oh! I forgot btw, the thing you said about Team 7 when it is Sasuke and Sakura addressing to Naruto individually and not as Team 7, that made a lot of sense. One evidence comes up, the other contradicts it. Much like Heisenberg's uncertainty principle(quantum physics, like Pepsi stated).

Edited by narusaku256, 29 May 2014 - 03:01 PM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Apparently he tries to control everyone whereas a true leader shows people the right way and guides them and not control them, like Naruto.

Sasuke wants to be a dictator! I knew he was related to Kim Jong Un somehow...it's the hair right?

[narusaku256]

Sasuke wants to be a dictator! I knew he was related to Kim Jong Un somehow...it's the hair right?

LOL XD. How the hairs btw?

[Dalton.T.R]

LOL XD. How the hairs btw?

Because they both have weird hair...admit it, you've wanted to know where Sasuke gets all the static electricity to keep his hair sticking out like that. He must carry a balloon around and use it when nobody's looking.

[narusaku256]

Because they both have weird hair...admit it, you've wanted to know where Sasuke gets all the static electricity to keep his hair sticking out like that. He must carry a balloon around and use it when nobody's looking.

Lol. I always thought, Sasuke's hair style resembled a duck, no?

[Dalton.T.R]

Lol. I always thought, Sasuke's hair style resembled a duck, no?

True. Actually, now that I think about it, Calvin from Calvin and Hobs seems like a better match up

[narusaku256]

True. Actually, now that I think about it, Calvin from Calvin and Hobs seems like a better match up

Anyone has a better 'match up' than Sasuke XD

[TacticalFox88]

You know what? I'm at the point now where, although NS happening would be utterly kittening fantastic, if at the very LEAST, Kishi killed any chance of NH/SS from happening, then I'll be satisfied so long as these sh*theads don't get their pairing. 

[Syn11]

Now SS-fans are saying that it doesn't matter that Sasuke is an as... bad person. Sakura's love will turn him into a better man.

Seriously?

Edited by Syn11, 29 May 2014 - 04:24 PM.

[TacticalFox88]

Their in love with the IDEA of the two together. Not them being together in general.

[Chatte]

Hey guys, my name's Kerry! Nice to meet you! I've been a guest here for the longest time, but finally decided to make an account here for a few reasons. One of which being to respond to the following quote. I'va also got account over at narutobase, my name over there is AllHailKurama (thus AHK), if anyone here has an account therem feel free to hit me up!!
   
   
Not gonna lie, I was teetering for the longest time about whether or not to create an account here, but this pushed me over the edge. I realize I'm late on this, but I didn't know that your account had to be verified by an admin or this response, else this response would have come a lot sooner!
 
To start, whenever anyone asks you for panels of romantic development for NS, you can start by cramming all of these in his face:
 
(see edit)
 
And those are all just Sakura's point of view, if they wants Naruto's perspective, I can give you those too.
 
You could also ask them to consider whether Hinata's "love" is truly love as opposed to an obsession. Love implies that both parties consider the feelings of the other person involved. Just ask anyone that you debate with to provide you a scan of where Hinata actually considers Naruto's feelings. But don't wait for a response on that, you won't get one, because Hinata has only ever thought of herself in the relationship. NS is the only pairing where both parties conciously put the feelings of the other person above their own.
 
You could also bring up the point that Hinata knows nothing about Naruto except that which she has been told, while Sakura actually understands him on a much more intimate level. Naruto and Sakura have both grown and suffered together, Hinata has always just watched.
 
And I guess with the release of the last chapter, you could also make the assumption that NH happening is about as likely as Kiba becoming Hokage, or Sai and Sasuke fighting over Ino (buh-zing) lol
 
Speaking of the last chapter, was anybody pissed off at Sasuke for his comments? That's the first time that Kishi has actually been able to get a rise out of me in the longest time...I had hoped Naruto would slug the kitten outta him, so I was slightly disappointed. But I was happy that he got pissed off at Sasuke. Sakura's face made me cringe a lil bit...
 
Edit: oops, for some reason the images don't work, I'll just put a link in in a minute
 
Here is the link to the group I have at NarutoBase. It's called the Church of NaruSaku lol if you look in the Got Scans section, you'll see all the scans that I have that show the development between both Naruto and Sakura , from each persons point of view. The links to the pics are prvided under the pics:
 
http://narutobase.ne...hp?groupid=3008

If it's Crystal Chakra you're fighting with on NB, I'd say don't consume your energy... Trust me.

[AHK]

Now SS-fans are saying that it doesn't matter that Sasuke is an as... bad person. Sakura's love will turn him into a better man.

Seriously?

 

Yeah, its pretty sad, really. I've heard that's all their saying on tumblr. That and "Sasuke was trying to protect her, in his own special way"

 

If it's Crystal Chakra you're fighting with on NB, I'd say don't consume your energy... Trust me.

 

Lol CC among others, but I pretty much stopped arguing with CC when he tried to tell me that Hinata is more like Kushina than Sakura is because both Hinata and Kushina have "Hina" in their name, similar head shape, the same breast sizes, long hair, and the fact that they have both changed the man that they love. The amount of fail in that post was in a whole new realm of stupid. I occasionally chime in to argue with CC every now and then, but I tend to focus on the others now lol

Edited by AHK, 29 May 2014 - 04:40 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Syn11@ why bother reading their arguments? Its a waste of time. Just ignore it the sameway they have ignored the NS development in the manga.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I feel like joining NB and put a smackdown. But I'm too nice...