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#19841 Dalton.T.R

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 03:54 AM

@Night Hawk. That was the most garbage I read in a while. Right now I'm free of seeing any negative stuff regarding Sakura or NS since I don't go on any other Naruto sites besides this one. I don't even watch NS videos on youtube anymore.

I know. Stuff like that is why I rarely go to any other Naruto sites. It's enough to drive you insane, and I get sick of seeing such levels of stupidity.

 

@ AHK: Uh...let's shoot for ten attempts of murder until they get the point. I mean, we're halfway there so why not? If they don't get the hint by then...then...I dunno... 

 

But seriously, Sasuke could push Sakura off a cliff and they'd still say "He did it with love"

 

But I guess it would make one thing clear: Sakura is still...FALLING for him hahahah...yeah that wasn't funny...shutting up now.


Edited by Night Hawk, 29 May 2014 - 05:02 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 04:36 AM

I know. Stuff like that is why I rarely go to any other Naruto sites. It's enough to drive you insane, and I get sick of seeing such levels of stupidity.
 
@ AHK: Uh...let's shoot for ten attempts of murder until they get the point. I mean, we're halfway there so why not? If they don't get the hint by then...then...I dunno... 
 
But seriously, Sasuke could slice push Sakura off a cliff and they'd still say "He did it with love"
 
But I guess it would make one thing clear: Sakura is still...FALLING for him hahahah...yeah that wasn't funny...shutting up now.


Lol I really hope he gets his ass beat in the upcoming chapters. You would think that after getting solo'd by his own sword and meeting the sage he might be at least a little bit humble, but no, he's still the arrogant douche he's always been. "He said those things because he loves her"...my ass lol

I wonder how the SS fandom would react if she openly tells Sasuke that she doesn't trust him, and then decks him into next year...

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#19843 Dalton.T.R

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:00 AM

Lol I really hope he gets his ass beat in the upcoming chapters. You would think that after getting solo'd by his own sword and meeting the sage he might be at least a little bit humble, but no, he's still the arrogant douche he's always been. "He said those things because he loves her"...my ass lol

I wonder how the SS fandom would react if she openly tells Sasuke that she doesn't trust him, and then decks him into next year...

Next year? If Sakura starts fighting with Sasuke he's practically the next rocket design in the Kerbal Space Program. Because I guarantee you he won't remain on the planet after she's done with him.

 

LOL! I just love the thought of Sakura kicking Sasuke's @ss and seeing him just drifting along in space.

 

SS fans - Aww, aren't they just the cutest couple? 

 

Sure...if it's okay to try and kill each other a couple dozen times and send the groom half way to the next galaxy...


Edited by Night Hawk, 29 May 2014 - 05:03 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:04 AM

Okay...what? I recommend not clicking the 'spoiler' tag unless you have a table to flip close by. 
 

You got a table yet?

 
Now if you excuse me...I have a table to flip.
 
Found this on a Facebook page and slammed my head onto my desk a couple dozen times. Never mind my skull being caved in, I need a new desk.

Here, let me fix that for him...

"I don't understand these NH fans. How can people be so blind and delusional? They act like the manga supports them when it doesn't even have to do with Hinata. Also, how can people like Hinata? She's useless. Has she ever helped Naruto? No. Has she ever been there for him? No. Has she shown that she cares for him and his happiness at all? No. How do people support NaruHina? It doesn't make any since to me! If there's anybody that deserves to be with Naruto its Sakura! She has always been there for Naruto from the start. She helped him with the Bell Test, with Itachi's gengutsu, with healing his arm and she kept his heart beating in this war, and Naruto mentioned that she is more or less his girlfriend, which means Naruto has to be with her in the end, right? I think that makes sense. He doesn't need Hinata. She never helps him unlike Sakura and Sakura actually cares for Naruto's dream instead of her own selfish desires."

Now, bear in mind that this is just flipping the argument around so any character bashing in the previous argument flip is not intended. Just wanted to give our friend here an idea so that he could make the guy who wrote this comment taste his own medicine (well, taste a stonger one since his was weak).

Edited by Shadow Wolf, 29 May 2014 - 05:09 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:26 AM

NH is sad, but SS is just outright delusional.

 

Actually SS has a chance at happening if you think about it. They've spent a lot of time together and have developed from what they once were, so I do believe SaiSaku could make it as canon. :hehehe:

 

But at this point NaruSaku might as well be canon.( Which it will eventually.) :yes:


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:53 AM

Something was never brought up is that interview with Kishi legit?

The one where Team 7 was an obvious parallal to him, his girlfriend (eventual wife) and her ex boyfriend (who apparently was an arrogant prick)?

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 06:08 AM

Something was never brought up is that interview with Kishi legit?

The one where Team 7 was an obvious parallal to him, his girlfriend (eventual wife) and her ex boyfriend (who apparently was an arrogant prick)?

Here is the quote from Ausakura. She posted it some times ago: 

 

It comes from Kishimoto's writing style this thing of unilateral undying pure passion. Did you notice that almost all of his characters doesn't have a healthy love life? The only ones who truly had (Minato & Kushina and Yahiko & Konan) died tragically. It comes alot from his personal life. This karma relationship between Naruto and Sakura (and several characters), taking reference from a radio interview on Japan with Kishimoto and his wife, came from his own love life. When Kishimoto was a teenager, he entered in a baseball group in his school (what inspired him to write BENCH, wich was a failure and refused by all editors he presented the first oneshot for being "too heavy for young boys", the shonen genre). He was in love with a girl who was in love with the team's capitain who didn't cared for anyone. Apparently nothing have gone right for any of them (or she have started to date the capitain), he got transfered and never saw the girl anymore... Then, 3 years later he and this girl reunited at college and started to know each other very well. She was single at that time, but nowadays this girl is his wife. Only a few people know about this interview, I just have this information because a friend of mine who lived in Japan and heared the whole interview. As there's no way of how to prove it, being an extra-official interview non relationated with JUMP's productions, it's not well spoken. But, well, if it's true, you can start to understand why Kishimoto puts his characters in such heavy love karma. Well, almost all writers do reflect things of their personal lifes on their stories, so it's understandable. If he have empathy for all of them, it's certain that they'll have an nice conclusion.

 

There is no proof if it's true or not, it's up to you to trust her/him. Since it's a radio interview, you won't find a real proof on the net. 


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 06:27 AM

The lengths some people go for their pairing is impressive. Some kid right now on narutobase is trying to tell me that Sasuke cares about Sakura "in his own special way". I can't even begin to describe the stupidity of it. I don't know how many times Sasuke has to try to kill her or degrade her before people realize that he actually doesn't care about her...

 

When I last read Naruto (and I'm pretty sure this is still true), NS and even NH both came off as so much healthier couples than SS. I mean, SS is akin to Bella and Edward in terms of healthiness. One reason I really liked NS was because of the mutual respect Naruto and Sakura had grown for each other as friends, and you could totally believe it leading to something more. And, boys, may I remind you, only in Naruto's most immature stage of life did he complain about being friendzoned! (And let me tell you, nothing turns me and many other girls off faster than a guy complaining about the non-existent friendzone.) I mean, I didn't view NS as perfect, but hey, better than SS, for sure. 


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 06:55 AM

Lol

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Edited by Pepsi, 29 May 2014 - 06:55 AM.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 06:56 AM

Damn, the power of photoshop is strong.



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 06:58 AM

ahahahahah


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:00 AM

Lol

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Tsunade had the right idea.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:46 AM

Here is the quote from Ausakura. She posted it some times ago: 
 
There is no proof if it's true or not, it's up to you to trust her/him. Since it's a radio interview, you won't find a real proof on the net.


Thank you. I'll believe its true since it would actually explain a lot of things.

My confidence in NS is starting to rise back up again with this along with the parallels in Mario, and the several pairing references in this chapter I'm starting to regain confidence that there won't be an open-ending

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 08:18 AM

Thank you. I'll believe its true since it would actually explain a lot of things.

My confidence in NS is starting to rise back up again with this along with the parallels in Mario, and the several pairing references in this chapter I'm starting to regain confidence that there won't be an open-ending

 

Even if it's not the plain truth, it could be not so far away from the truth because IMO authors always write about WHAT THEY KNOW.

so it's often about their personal life.

 

I have always thought that Kishi write in correlation with his life/feelings/view of life.

 

http://minhafome.tum...ost/85726989175 --> can someone be kind enough to translate this please ?


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:37 AM

Well since everyone answered my question, I'll put my two cents.

If NaruSaku never exist, and when I say never exist, I mean no developments between them at all, not even friendship, would my opinion change on NH? My answer is no, though I would say that it's the main event level of romance of the series because it's the only one dealing with the protagonist himself. My opinion on it won't change much, just would say the grade of the romance would be "average". I wouldn't start investing NH because it does have the level of open ending being in 70% possibility. Plus it's something I have seen many times in other series or movies. Would I think it's nice to see them together, oppose to the current me thinking it's "whatever?" Well, this is the reason why I included "if NaruSaku never exist".

The main objective was to give others a different thought without the need to compare their main pairing, in this case, NaruSaku. I have read some posts from forums saying that Hinata's dream in chapter 678 is "romantic" but boring, especially compare to NaruSaku. So I thought to myself, "if NaruSaku never exist, would they say otherwise?" So to answer myself on what would I think it's nice to see them together, I can't say 100% sure that I think it wouldn't matter much. Part of me do like romance in a story, when not being disrupted badly, and if NaruHina is the only primary romance, I might say I will be forced to like it. Hard to say, if only NaruSaku never exist, it's hard to not think about it.

Yes, Hinata will do same thing she does in the manga, with or without NaruSaku I existence, but those kind of girls do that in other series, being glued on one character to the end. Do they win? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. In here, it will be no. The other part to mention is that NaruHina romance seems to be the old school way of doing, if not a way to write it without putting too much effort that will make Akira Toriyama a "A+" romance writer, while NaruSaku seems to be the next generation or something that should be done more often. Not the exact same, but be more deep about it, like selfless acts, dreams believer, etc. It feels like that one movie where one has old school love story, with two meet each other the first time, then boom, love, and later, shows the developmental of romance from scratch (friendship) that leads to true love. The winner ended up being the latter.

So I can't say I'm 100% sure that my opinion wouldn't change at all on NaruHina. I mean I won't invest it like I do with NaruSaku, let alone I hardly ship anything in any series, but I don't know if I would think it's adorable or anything. But I guess that's the world of what if for you.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:42 AM

Lol

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You have to love this world of Naruto.
Full of western influences but no nationalism, banking, railroads, have security cameras but no TV's.
Ultrasonography and walktalkies but still use birds to send messages.
Some computers were shown but without any cable plugged,
Now western marriage type but the religions are all buddhism influenced.

I wont even talk about why they are using suits, on a feudal world.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:51 AM

You have to love this world of Naruto.
Full of western influences but no nationalism, banking, railroads, have security cameras but no TV's.
Ultrasonography and walktalkies but still use birds to send messages.
Some computers were shown but without any cable plugged,
Now western marriage type but the religions are all buddhism influenced.

I wont even talk about why they are using suits, on a feudal world.


Oonoki is dressed more traditionally. Probably because of his age.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:03 PM

Maybe it's because of the dream. I mean this is the Mizukage's dream. She'd probably want it grand :P


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:15 PM

Maybe it's because of the dream. I mean this is the Mizukage's dream. She'd probably want it grand :P

That's most likely the point.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:20 PM

Well I don't know how Kishimoto could possible insult NH/SS any worse than he has now..... unless he kills Hinata and sasuke.


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