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#1961 Chatte

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 09:55 AM

Oh, please. That old over-used "She wanted to leave the village with Sasuke"... We all know that she said that in order to draw some more time because when she saw that Sasuke was determined to do that, she told him she's gonna scream if he leaves. She just did everything that was in his power to stop him or draw some time, she wasn't going to leave with him.

 

Her target was to STOP Sasuke, that's why she said to Naruto... I Couldn't STOP him, you're the only one, Naruto.

 

It takes a little bit of less selective reading for bashing purposes.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 09:58 AM

Funny enough, it is not the haters I am worried about....*looks at this forum*

Oh that... Well, what can you do? It's a pairing community after all, the one thing people is concerned about the most is the fate of NS I believe. That's why our fandom jumps out of pants every time there's SS or NH "hints". Even if there's NO romantic subplot people see the danger.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:00 AM

Oh that... Well, what can you do? It's a pairing community after all, the one thing people is concerned about the most is the fate of NS I believe. That's why our fandom jumps out of pants every time there's SS or NH "hints". Even if there's NO romantic subplot people see the danger.

I don't jump at all. It's been obvious since Day one where Kishi was going with this. 

The "loser" gets the girl. Of course it would be the Main Girl. That's how these things almost ALWAYS work. 

Now, if there were TWO main girls, there would be more trouble with figuring this out, but there is only one despite what many others would like to believe >___>


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:05 AM

I don't jump at all. It's been obvious since Day one where Kishi was going with this. 

The "loser" gets the girl. Of course it would be the Main Girl. That's how these things almost ALWAYS work. 

Now, if there were TWO main girls, there would be more trouble with figuring this out, but there is only one despite what many others would like to believe >___>

I think that is one of the main problems, many want to believe that Hinata plays an important role in the main plot. The answer is she doesn't, she is a side character and that isn't going to change.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:09 AM

 

The amount of disrespect for that character in that panel was so high and half of it didnt even make sense. If you want to make fun of sakura, what about not making fun of it on heaven and earth where we're all fans of the character. And im sorry, but is it that when you call your friends names ur fangirling or fanboying? I missed that part. What about you analyze properly before you come to biased conclusions. Thanks :)

 

 

I don't know what brought you here. If you don't like Sakura, you can leave this site. Don't bother get into trouble again. I don't want you go up bashing in this forum.

 

I dont want to be annoying or what but srsly he was disrespectfull but this whole "if you don't like Sakura, you can leave this site". 
Sincerely i dont like Sakura's character but it doenst imply that i cant access this place.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:14 AM

 

 

I dont want to be annoying or what but srsly he was disrespectfull but this whole "if you don't like Sakura, you can leave this site". 
Sincerely i dont like Sakura's character but it doenst imply that i cant access this place.

The problem was he was bashing her pretty hardcore. If someone doesn't have a nicer way to go about debating a character than they shouldn't bring it up in the first place.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:14 AM

To Beastbomb - No, because her flaws are gapingly open. She's gotten enough exposure to show just how detrimental she is to those around her. She is far more like Sasuke than she'd like to admit. And she does little to address her personal faults. Her skills? Yeah, even though it takes her over a hundred chapters to realise that she's using Naruto and Sasuke as a crutch and has no real definite or passable skill set outside of her book knowledge. At least Tenten is skilled in combat, and same with Hinata. At least Hinata is there as emotional support and to spur Naruto on, which Sakura almost never does because she shows a fundamental failure to understand either of her teammates on any level deeper than the surface and the superficial. Sakura is entirely reliant on chakra for anything to do with ninja skills. And I don't mean that in a general sense. Without her chakra, her strength is absent and her taijutsu technique is useless. If you say that for Hinata, you'd be wrong. The actual stances and techniques for the Gentle Fist are as applicable without chakra as with it as can be seen from the actual martial art it is based upon, Baghua Zhang. Even the characters who are supposed to be minor supporting characters show more emotional ties and commitments to their comrades and allies than Sakura does. They've never once given thought to following a traitor outside the village because it's what they might want.

 

Don't forget, your talking about a world where if you leave your village and have become a part of the main ninja system, they either put out a bounty on you or send Hunter Nins to take you out...because even the slightest thing you take for granted might be something that an enemy village can use against your former village, and if you have techniques there's the risk they could use them against your former village too. If Tsunade hadn't caved to holding off when it came to Sasuke, he would've been hunted by every bounty hunter or ninja in the elemental nations and would've been dead by now.

 

As for slap comedy...slap comedy is just a cry for help when you realise you have no idea on how to properly develop a character outside set constraints.

I dont like her character overall but srsly she's above Hinata and Tenten, she understand Naruto better than Hinata which is proven on 631 and an huge ammount of chapters before and most importantly if we are going to talk about originality why you put Hinata on a pedestal saying that her skilled in combat when it's basically weaker than Neji and funny how you say "Without her chakra her strength is absent".
Funny because even Naruto without any chakra can do nothing.

gentle firsts are not applicable without chakra on Naruto's world nothing is applicable without chakra.

They need chakra to do basically everything, to activate byakugan and etc...

 

@Zatheko 
I pointed he was disrespectfull but i dont buy this whole "if you dont like Sakura's character you dont belong here".
Ofc he's trolling it's kinda obvious due to his posts and the huge ammount of double standards.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:19 AM

I dont like her character overall but srsly she's above Hinata and Tenten, she understand Naruto better than Hinata which is proven on 631 and an huge ammount of chapters before and most importantly if we are going to talk about originality why you put Hinata on a pedestal saying that her skilled in combat when it's basically weaker than Neji and funny how you say "Without her chakra her strength is absent".
Funny because even Naruto without any chakra can do nothing.

gentle firsts are not applicable without chakra on Naruto's world nothing is applicable without chakra.

They need chakra to do basically everything, to activate byakugan and etc...

 

@Zatheko 
I pointed he was disrespectfull but i dont buy this whole "if you dont like Sakura's character you dont belong here".
Ofc he's trolling it's kinda obvious due to his posts and the huge ammount of double standards.

Oh I agree with you, just because someone doesn't like a character doesn't mean he/she isn't allowed here, in a way I actually like them to come. It gave me someone to debate with for a few hours, speaking of which I am really tired now, 3am here  :sweat:


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:21 AM

Oh I agree with you, just because someone doesn't like a character doesn't mean he/she isn't allowed here, in a way I actually like them to come. It gave me someone to debate with for a few hours, speaking of which I am really tired now, 3am here  :sweat:

This reminds me when i had to wake up 3.00am because i was eager to see Naruto's chapter 616 expecting trolling from Kishimoto.
i'm going to rate you a 5-star because you destroyed his arguments, it was very easy dont you think?


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:22 AM

Can we make another thread for people that wants to do bashing?

 

This place is supposed to be a haven for NaruSaku fans who can't enjoy loving NS in other forums. We can direct the troll to another thread. And people that wants to argue the troll can do it there.

Is this hard to ask?  :sweatdrop:


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#1971 Zatheko

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:23 AM

This reminds me when i had to wake up 3.00am because i was eager to see Naruto's chapter 616 expecting trolling from Kishimoto.
i'm going to rate you a 5-start because you destroyed his arguments, it was very easy dont you think?

Yeah didn't really take much thinking lol, a lot of times he kind of contradicted himself as well, especially with the whole "what if" scenarios :D

 

Well I am off, too tired.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:23 AM

Can we make another thread for people that wants to do bashing?

 

This place is supposed to be a haven for NaruSaku fans who can't enjoy loving NS in other forums. 

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:26 AM

Can we make another thread for people that wants to do bashing?

 

This place is supposed to be a haven for NaruSaku fans who can't enjoy loving NS in other forums. We can direct the troll to another thread. And people that wants to argue the troll can do it there.

Is this hard to ask?  :sweatdrop:

Well that's the definition of trolling we cant take in to another place because he jumped on this thread.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:29 AM

Lol. That's true. 

 

We can at least direct him to post his opinions in another thread though. 


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:29 AM

Lol. That's true. 

 

We can at least direct him to post his opinions in another thread though. 

Well that's work of mods.
But they are likely going to use banhammer instead of directing his posts to another thread, since this thread is supposed to be general.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:31 AM

Lol. That's true. 

 

We can at least direct him to post his opinions in another thread though. 

 

I am not sure if he went here to debating "about" Sakura. He went here purposely in order to bashing and destroying her character... I think that it would be only a waste of time by giving him some credit.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:32 AM

I actually theorized the same thing not to long ago lol, that is the only way I can accept Sakura dying, by her saving Naruto and being revived by a tnj'd Obito

 

And still if that happens the haters will still hate her. :zaru:


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:33 AM

 

And still if that happens the haters will still hate her. :zaru:

I feel it's more butthurt than hate.
Butthurt because Naruto loves Sakura and due to the recent events he's not going to move on.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:37 AM

Oh well, I guess the least we could do is ignore the trolls. The recent chapters are making them miserable as it is. No need to add salt to their injury  :P

 

We're nice people remember?  :D


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 11:06 AM

I think that is one of the main problems, many want to believe that Hinata plays an important role in the main plot. The answer is she doesn't, she is a side character and that isn't going to change.

Honestly, I have no idea where people even get the IDEA that Hinata is a main Character. Just look at her panel time! not to mention that she has had next to no effect on the main story line nor events that have happened in the long term.

What, do people need a guide on how to deduce whether or not someone is a main character? Talk about lack of reading cognition...

 


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