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[redragon88]

What might have happened between Kakashi and Rin has been a marble rolling around in my head for ages. The romantic in me has kind of always hoped that Kakashi had feelings for Rin too, but knowing that Obito loved her, and ultimately died for both of them, Kakashi never allowed himself to act on those feelings. Kishimoto has portrayed Kakashi as sort of a case of arrested development. A mild case, perhaps, but still. He has depth, and feelings, but honor and duty have prevailed in a curiously emotionless way -- but with a side of perviness. The trauma of their triangle could explain all that.

The other thing is the parallel between Rin and Sakura. What Rin did -- confessing to Kakashi before Obito's body was cold -- was something I could see early Part I Sakura doing. She would have mourned Naruto, and wouldn't have wanted to hurt his feelings or his memory, but in her immaturity I don't think a confession from Naruto before his death would have swayed her from Sasuke at that time either. But now?

It would be an interesting backstory if Kakashi was the one feeling guilty about Obito and therefore kept rejecting Rin, but as far as we know Kakashi never had any romantic interest in Rin at the moment of her confession given that just hours before he was willing to let her die. On the other hand, he could've developed feelings for her afterwards. If I'm honest the romantic in me would rather see Rin reflecting back on her past with Obito and slowly developing more intense feelings for him.

It would be interesting to see her grow more fond of the memories of Obito, but at the same time realizing that he was no longer with them. The consequence would be that the more she cherishes Obito the bigger and more painful the hole in her heart (created by his absence) becomes and it gets to the breaking point where it affects her ability to perform as a ninja which could be the cause of her death. I would really like the flashback to develop that way.

Edited by redragon88, 03 July 2012 - 07:04 AM.

[Codus N]

Probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but Kakashi already got an entire gaiden dedication to his back story AND the chat with his dead father's spirit. Plus, he was practically chosen to be the next Hokage and got a serious battle scene with Zabuza and co.

Should he get something, I hope that its brief like Tsunade's was.

Does anyone remember the sketchy rumor that Kishi confirmed Tobi is Obito in the RtN thread a few days ago?? well, if this is true, then I think that would be the moment for his character development. Moreover, as it stands now, Madara seems to be the final villain for the series when you consider that he represents everything Naruto stands against.

So, drawing from that, I think Kakashi will be the one to take on Tobi if he is indeed Obito to finally put his past to rest. And perhaps he'll be the one to put him to rest by saying something like "Rin loved you, Obito. Now you can join her forever."

[Branden]

Does anyone remember the sketchy rumor that Kishi confirmed Tobi is Obito in the RtN thread a few days ago?? well, if this is true, then I think that would be the moment for his character development. Moreover, as it stands now, Madara seems to be the final villain for the series when you consider that he represents everything Naruto stands against.

So, drawing from that, I think Kakashi will be the one to take on Tobi if he is indeed Obito to finally put his past to rest. And perhaps he'll be the one to put him to rest by saying something like "Rin loved you, Obito. Now you can join her forever."

I sure as hell hope so! When I saw Obito crushed by a rock I instantly thought "It's Tobi!"

Also that would a huge revelation! We would probobly get to hear how he survived and what his motive was afterwords. Maybe Madara was his master or something? I'm almost certain though he has some form of Zetu mutation though. It would explain why his limbs keep getting destroyed only to be miraculously grown back. It would also explain how he survived getting crushed.


But as for him getting shocked by Rin's love, he probobly wouldn't care. I think Tobi is beyond the point that anything will stop him. I really hope that he doesn't pull a Kurama on us. It's bad enough the evil demon fox turned into a cuddly fluffy kitten, the last thing we need is for the main villain to be one as well.

[Jake]

Does anyone remember the sketchy rumor that Kishi confirmed Tobi is Obito in the RtN thread a few days ago?? well, if this is true, then I think that would be the moment for his character development. Moreover, as it stands now, Madara seems to be the final villain for the series when you consider that he represents everything Naruto stands against.

So, drawing from that, I think Kakashi will be the one to take on Tobi if he is indeed Obito to finally put his past to rest. And perhaps he'll be the one to put him to rest by saying something like "Rin loved you, Obito. Now you can join her forever."

There is a huge problem with that and that is Madara had two Sharingans when he fought Konan and used Izanagi, that is why he has the Rinnegan in his left eye because he lost his Sharingan (although I'm pretty sure he was going to do that anyway).

[Branden]

There is a huge problem with that and that is Madara had two Sharingans when he fought Konan and used Izanagi, that is why he has the Rinnegan in his left eye because he lost his Sharingan (although I'm pretty sure he was going to do that anyway).

please refer to him as Tobi. Ever since SPOILER ALERT Madara was revived it's been confusing me when people talk about Tobi as Madara.

[Jake]

please refer to him as Tobi. Ever since SPOILER ALERT Madara was revived it's been confusing me when people talk about Tobi as Madara.

Sorry , I can't beleve I made that mistake .

[narulsaku]

Sorry , I can't beleve I made that mistake .

what do ya mean . um i am confuse in that too. are tobi and madara same

[Tendo Ryuken]

what do ya mean . um i am confuse in that too. are tobi and madara same

since when is this become tobi thread?!

hey guys im new here. im currently exploring the net for narusaku's proof. well, i have a friend who is a naruhina fan and unfortunately hes smarter than me (i hate to admit this, lol) and im here to 'cheat' our fight . meh, i believe he cheated as well, since its weird for him to has so many proofs while he is as lazy as shikamaru . here, i will offend narusaku and defend naruhina like my friend did. please oppose me with the best you can. before i start. please check this post from another forum. that guy is a narusaku fan but he made a huge mistake, he denied hinata's love for naruto. at the end, i oppose him . ok lets start.

1. Naruto the Hero x Sakura The Heroine. The hero deserve the heroine. The problem is the defenition on Wikipedia. so, who is the heroine? Sakura, Tsunade, or Hinata?. then who is fairy tail's heroine? lucy heartfilia or erza scarlet?

2. Sakura is Naruto's dream, seconded to his dream to become a hokage. and Naruto is a Gutsy Ninja who is never give up on his dream. BUT ..

according to this --Click here to view--

and

this --Click here to view--

Naruto Thinks that Sakura is still loving sasuke. yet he still want to save sasuke. he is fully awared that he cant get sakura if there is sasuke around. he may be wrong about sakura's feeling but we cant deny the fact that he has never put his gutsiness to WIN sakura. but for sakura's HAPPINESS.

3. Part I: Hinata>Naruto>Sakura>Sasuke. but in part II, its much more complicated. Hinata love naruto. no doubt about it. as for naruto, there is strong evidence that he is still loving sakura. but hinata's confession is something we have to take notice, Naruto may reject her, but he cant ignore her. as for sakura, her feeling for naruto has grown over time. but there is no strong evidence that she already forget sasuke. then come sasuke. well, sasuke is the problem here. in my friend's opinion, and i agree with him, that sasuke want to crush naruto and sakura for the same reason, deep inside his heart, he is still loving them, which mean they are obstacles for his hatred. i may come up later with proofs about this. so, the current situation is more like this:
Hinata >>> Naruto
Hinata < Naruto >> Sakura
Naruto << Sakura > Sasuke
Sakura <Sasuke>Naruto (whatever this mean is up to you )

4. kushina's statement about girl. Eat that naruhina fans !!! Lololololol !! .......... but (yeah its a 'but' again) kishi trolled us on the next chapter. as we can see, naruto didnt mention about it even a little. so sad..

5. sakura's confession. goddam why the hell didnt kishi make that much better? the confession itself is awesome. but the annoying part is naruto's response

why me, of all people? --Click here to view--

. is it mean that naruto has never thought that he is special to sakura? forget about sasuke, naruto thought that he is her 'normal' friend just like shikamaru, sai, kiba, lee and the other. and this

i really wanted to kick naruto's ass this time --Click here to view--

he didnt even ask the truth about it. and if im not wrong, there are two another 'i love you' toward naruto and his response was much better.

from hinata --Click here to view--

for narusaku's sake, his response should be atleast like this "what the hell are you talking about!! its not the time for that!! get out of here!!". but as we can see, he was speechless.

from kushina --Click here to view--

6. Hinata's confession. at last i come to this. this is my dead end weakness on debating. im not saying that naruto should have return hinata's feeling. HELL NO. BUT i cant deny hinata's pure love for naruto.

i cant help but thinking like this --Click here to view--

Hinata's confession. i really hoped that it was sakura who did that. but according to the situation, it was hinata. why? obviously, hinata got the byakugan and she was watching the whole fight DIRECTLY. while sakura was with someone from hyuuga and following the fight INDIRECTLY. and don't forget that byakugan can see chakra, she knew that naruto couldnt move by seing his chakra flow. what? naruto can resist chakra control like he did while face to face with nagato. yes! he can resist it in SAGE mode. enough about this, hinata's act that time was fool, really idiot. but if you think again, place yourself on hinatas position then her act is acceptable. just before she jumped to the fight, she was never thinking her act would exactly safe naruto. she was never thinking that naruto would come kyubi mode. she was NOT hoping that SHE WOULD STAY ALIVE and she was never imagining NARUTO TO APPRECIATE HER ACTION AND LOVE HER BACK WITH HER LAME CONFESSION. i repeat again, hinata KNEW that she WOULD DIE (even a kage would think twice before opposing a rinnegan who destroyed a ninja village easily, lol). she was just cant stand watching naruto die while doing nothing. she was accepting death for the slightest chance to safe naruto, even she didnt have any idea how it would happen, even naruto would say BAKAYARO!!!!. fool, unreasonable, and everything you can blame her. but wont deny the fact that she did it. one more. have you ever face and accept death? if you ever had, you will understand that it would lift all of your fear up (hinata feared so many thinks and the word 'i love you' toward naruto is the top most of that. lol silly heiress). hinata didnt plan to confess that time, naruto asked her why jumped to an impossible fight and she, with all of her fear lifted up, answered honestly. no need to worry since she was going to die anyway. and that was the last chance for her to tell naruto.

honestly. this is the reason i cant stand people blaming hinata. hey!! i cant stand people blaming sakura as well. but i would love to see people blaming kishi . and then take notice at this.

hinata's smile --Click here to view--

"N..Naruto-kun.. I..I did .. everything.. f..for you ... b-but you didnt even ...n..notice.. me.. Y-You Prefer S-Sakura instead" its irrelevan with the picture. hinata smile watching sakura hug naruto. so whats my point? hinata would be happy if naruto prefer sakura. its PURE love and NOT selfish.

well. i think its enough for now. i may come up with another debating stuff later. i may have to say that ive found the fact that its much harder on debating naruhina fans who is not a sakura hater, like my friend. than a lot of blind sakura haters out there. and im sorry if you cant understand my post since im not good at english anyway. i would love to hear your correction.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

according to this --Click here to view--

hinata's smile --Click here to view--

I see what u did there.

this prove that naruto know that sakura loves sasuke and hinata know that naruto loves sakura.
i'm thinking and 'ill reply in 35mins.

Edited by dovahkiin, 03 July 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[Paptala]

1. Naruto the Hero x Sakura The Heroine. The hero deserve the heroine. The problem is the defenition on Wikipedia. so, who is the heroine? Sakura, Tsunade, or Hinata?. then who is fairy tail's heroine? lucy heartfilia or erza scarlet?

Kishimoto stated clearly in one of his interviews that despite Hinata's popularity, Sakura is the heroine - he couldn't have been clearer on the issue. She is the main female character in this manga.

2. Sakura is Naruto's dream, seconded to his dream to become a hokage. and Naruto is a Gutsy Ninja who is never give up on his dream. BUT ..

according to this --Click here to view--

and

this --Click here to view--

Naruto Thinks that Sakura is still loving sasuke. yet he still want to save sasuke. he is fully awared that he cant get sakura if there is sasuke around. he may be wrong about sakura's feeling but we cant deny the fact that he has never put his gutsiness to WIN sakura. but for sakura's HAPPINESS.

Wrong - Naruto feels that's he is not worthy to pursue Sakura until he fulfills the promise of a lifetime - once Sasuke is saved, the logical conclusion given his words in chapter 457 ("have you told he how you feel?" "how can I? I can't even keep my promises") is that he will most likely lay all of his feelings on the table after Sasuke is saved and let things fall where they will. Respecting Sakura's feelings and putting her feelings above his own is an undeniable positive for NaruSaku and speaks to the strength and selflessness of his feelings for her.

3. Part I: Hinata>Naruto>Sakura>Sasuke. but in part II, its much more complicated. Hinata love naruto. no doubt about it. as for naruto, there is strong evidence that he is still loving sakura. but hinata's confession is something we have to take notice, Naruto may reject her, but he cant ignore her. as for sakura, her feeling for naruto has grown over time. but there is no strong evidence that she already forget sasuke. then come sasuke. well, sasuke is the problem here. in my friend's opinion, and i agree with him, that sasuke want to crush naruto and sakura for the same reason, deep inside his heart, he is still loving them, which mean they are obstacles for his hatred. i may come up later with proofs about this. so, the current situation is more like this:
Hinata >>> Naruto
Hinata < Naruto >> Sakura
Naruto << Sakura > Sasuke
Sakura <Sasuke>Naruto (whatever this mean is up to you )

Naruto has shown zero romantic interest in Hinata since her confession - he thanked her for saving him and that was it. No smitten look on his face like when he watched Sakura display her new abilities in the second bell test, no blush, nothing to indicate that he sees her as anything more than a friend he is grateful to.

4. kushina's statement about girl. Eat that naruhina fans !!! Lololololol !! .......... but (yeah its a 'but' again) kishi trolled us on the next chapter. as we can see, naruto didnt mention about it even a little. so sad..

The fact that Naruto hasn't brought it up himself is irrelevant - Kishi had Kushina say what she said - if it's for a reason it will be revisited when it's time to resolve the pairings. It doesn't hurt NaruSaku at all.

5. sakura's confession. goddam why the hell didnt kishi make that much better? the confession itself is awesome. but the annoying part is naruto's response

why me, of all people? --Click here to view--

. is it mean that naruto has never thought that he is special to sakura? forget about sasuke, naruto thought that he is her 'normal' friend just like shikamaru, sai, kiba, lee and the other. and this

i really wanted to kick naruto's ass this time --Click here to view--

Naruto blushed in response to Sakura's confession, showing that he still has romantic feelings for her, and then got suspicious once she started telling Naruto to forget about Sasuke and to drop the promise of a lifetime. Yes, Naruto got angry, but he thought that she was lying so his frustration is understandable, especially when he knows Sakura well enough to know when she is not telling him something ("I knew something didn't feel right - so she was hidin something afterall").

As KnS out it, Naruto obviously wanted to believe what Sakura was saying, but because of what she was saying about Sasuke, he coukdn't bring himself too.

he didnt even ask the truth about it.

He asked her multiple times what had happened to make her come all the way out to the summit at a time when travel was restricted - that's not the kind of thing that you come out to say unless you need to say it now and there isn't time to wait for a more appropriate time and place.

Then he asked Sai to tell him what was going on.

and if im not wrong, there are two another 'i love you' toward naruto and his response was much better.

from hinata --Click here to view--

for narusaku's sake, his response should be atleast like this "what the hell are you talking about!! its not the time for that!! get out of here!!". but as we can see, he was speechless.

from kushina --Click here to view--

Of course he's going to act most favorably towards his mother's words - its something that he's always wanted to know, I'm sure, that he had unconditional parental love. Here was also nothing to take away from the moment like watching the person about to throw themselves against a ruthless opponent she knows she canno beat or hiding something huge underneath what she is saying and mixing falsehoods in.

Naruto's reaction to Hinata's confession was shock - nothing to indicate that he reciprocates her feelings in any way.

6. Hinata's confession. at last i come to this. this is my dead end weakness on debating. im not saying that naruto should have return hinata's feeling. HELL NO. BUT i cant deny hinata's pure love for naruto.

i cant help but thinking like this --Click here to view--

Hinata's confession. i really hoped that it was sakura who did that. but according to the situation, it was hinata. why? obviously, hinata got the byakugan and she was watching the whole fight DIRECTLY. while sakura was with someone from hyuuga and following the fight INDIRECTLY. and don't forget that byakugan can see chakra, she knew that naruto couldnt move by seing his chakra flow. what? naruto can resist chakra control like he did while face to face with nagato. yes! he can resist it in SAGE mode. enough about this, hinata's act that time was fool, really idiot. but if you think again, place yourself on hinatas position then her act is acceptable. just before she jumped to the fight, she was never thinking her act would exactly safe naruto. she was never thinking that naruto would come kyubi mode. she was NOT hoping that SHE WOULD STAY ALIVE and she was never imagining NARUTO TO APPRECIATE HER ACTION AND LOVE HER BACK WITH HER LAME CONFESSION. i repeat again, hinata KNEW that she WOULD DIE (even a kage would think twice before opposing a rinnegan who destroyed a ninja village easily, lol). she was just cant stand watching naruto die while doing nothing. she was accepting death for the slightest chance to safe naruto, even she didnt have any idea how it would happen, even naruto would say BAKAYARO!!!!. fool, unreasonable, and everything you can blame her. but wont deny the fact that she did it. one more. have you ever face and accept death? if you ever had, you will understand that it would lift all of your fear up (hinata feared so many thinks and the word 'i love you' toward naruto is the top most of that. lol silly heiress). hinata didnt plan to confess that time, naruto asked her why jumped to an impossible fight and she, with all of her fear lifted up, answered honestly. no need to worry since she was going to die anyway. and that was the last chance for her to tell naruto.

honestly. this is the reason i cant stand people blaming hinata. hey!! i cant stand people blaming sakura as well. but i would love to see people blaming kishi . and then take notice at this.

hinata's smile --Click here to view--

"N..Naruto-kun.. I..I did .. everything.. f..for you ... b-but you didnt even ...n..notice.. me.. Y-You Prefer S-Sakura instead" its irrelevan with the picture. hinata smile watching sakura hug naruto. so whats my point? hinata would be happy if naruto prefer sakura. its PURE love and NOT selfish.

Don't have the time to go into specifics, but Hinata's love for Naruto is canonically more selfish than Naruto's live for Sakura, and Sakura's feelings for Naruto. Tell me one time when Hinata placed Naruto's feelings before her own - like naruto did with the promise of a lifetime or Sakura did with her confession at the summit.

The last time we saw Hinata and Sakura thinking of Naruto, Hinata is thinking if HER feelings and how she wants Naruto to wait for HER, while Sakura is thinking of the burdens Naruto is tacit and how she will definite help him this time and not let him do things on his own.

Edited by Paptala, 03 July 2012 - 01:17 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Kishimoto stated clearly in one of his interviews that despite Hinata's popularity, Sakura is the heroine - he couldn't have been clearer on the issue. She is the main female character in this manga.

Wrong - Naruto feels that's he is not worthy to pursue Sakura until he fulfills the promise of a lifetime - once Sasuke is saved, the logical conclusion given his words in chapter 457 ("have you told he how you feel?" "how can I? I can't even keep my promises") is that he will most likely lay all of his feelings on the table after Sasuke is saved and let things fall where they will. Respecting Sakura's feelings and putting her feelings above his own is an undeniable positive for NaruSaku and speaks to the strength and selflessness of his feelings for her.

Naruto has shown zero romantic interest in Hinata since her confession - he thanked her for saving him and that was it. No smitten look on his face like when he watched Sakura display her new abilities in the second bell test, no blush, nothing to indicate that he sees her as anything more than a friend he is grateful to.

The fact that Naruto hasn't brought it up himself is irrelevant - Kishi had Kushina say what she said - if it's for a reason it will be revisited when it's time to resolve the pairings. It doesn't hurt NaruSaku at all.

Naruto blushed in response to Sakura's confession, showing that he still has romantic feelings for her, and then got suspicious once she started telling Naruto to forget about Sasuke and to drop the promise of a lifetime. Yes, Naruto got angry, but he thought that she was lying so his frustration is understandable, especially when he knows Sakura well enough to know when she is not telling him something ("I knew something didn't feel right - so she was hidin something afterall").

As KnS out it, Naruto obviously wanted to believe what Sakura was saying, but because of what she was saying about Sasuke, he coukdn't bring himself too.

He asked her multiple times what had happened to make her come all the way out to the summit at a time when travel was restricted - that's not the kind of thing that you come out to say unless you need to say it now and there isn't time to wait for a more appropriate time and place.

Then he asked Sai to tell him what was going on.

Of course he's going to act most favorably towards his mother's words - its something that he's always wanted to know, I'm sure, that he had unconditional parental love. Here was also nothing to take away from the moment like watching the person about to throw themselves against a ruthless opponent she knows she canno beat or hiding something huge underneath what she is saying and mixing falsehoods in.

Naruto's reaction to Hinata's confession was shock - nothing to indicate that he reciprocates her feelings in any way.

Don't have the time to go into specifics, but Hinata's love for Naruto is canonically more selfish than Naruto's live for Sakura, and Sakura's feelings for Naruto. Tell me one time when Hinata placed Naruto's feelings before her own - like naruto did with the promise of a lifetime or Sakura did with her confession at the summit.

The last time we saw Hinata and Sakura thinking of Naruto, Hinata is thinking if HER feelings and how she wants Naruto to wait for HER, while Sakura is thinking of the burdens Naruto is tacit and how she will definite help him this time and not let him do things on his own.

agreed u took the words of my mouth(or fingers).

Just to reinforce it.
Naruto knows that sakura loves sasuke but this didnt make him love sakura less or diminish his feelings for her.
and he stated here

part 11 --Click here to view--

part 11 --Click here to view--

it's a pity that they put like instead of love on purpose.

both sakura and hinata expressed their feelings i think naruto is the only one that needs to express his feelings.

Edited by dovahkiin, 03 July 2012 - 01:51 PM.

[Tendo Ryuken]

Kishimoto stated clearly in one of his interviews that despite Hinata's popularity, Sakura is the heroine - he couldn't have been clearer on the issue. She is the main female character in this manga.

thanks. this is the answer i need for this

Wrong - Naruto feels that's he is not worthy to pursue Sakura until he fulfills the promise of a lifetime - once Sasuke is saved, the logical conclusion given his words in chapter 457 ("have you told her how you feel?" "how can I? I can't even keep my promises") is that he will most likely lay all of his feelings on the table after Sasuke is saved and let things fall where they will. Respecting Sakura's feelings and putting her feelings above his own is an undeniable positive for NaruSaku and speaks to the strength and selflessness of his feelings for her.

you may be right. but the point here is that naruto has never put 'winning sakura' to his gutsiness list. if he ever did, it would delete selflessness from your statement.

The fact that Naruto hasn't brought it up himself is irrelevant - Kishi had Kushina say what she said - if it's for a reason it will be revisited when it's time to resolve the pairings. It doesn't hurt NaruSaku at all.

but also it doest 'completely' remove naruhina, since its not resolved yet.

Naruto blushed in response to Sakura's confession, showing that he still has romantic feelings for her, and then got suspicious once she started telling Naruto to forget about Sasuke and to drop the promise of a lifetime. Yes, Naruto got angry, but he thought that she was lying so his frustration is understandable, especially when he knows Sakura well enough to know when she is not telling him something ("I knew something didn't feel right - so she was hidin something afterall"). As KnS out it, Naruto obviously wanted to believe what Sakura was saying, but because of what she was saying about Sasuke, he coukdn't bring himself too.

please check again. naruto's expression was changed before sakura asked him to forget sasuke and the promise. it was when sakura said that she has no feeling for sasuke anymore. and that was in a condition when naruto's mind, brain and heart is all about sasuke

He asked her multiple times what had happened to make her come all the way out to the summit at a time when travel was restricted - that's not the kind of thing that you come out to say unless you need to say it now and there isn't time to wait for a more appropriate time and place. Then he asked Sai to tell him what was going on.

if someone you like, but you believe he/she like someone else come to confess to you. the first question come to your mind would be "is it true?" then the second would be "how, why, what happened etc etc?" but naruto skipped the first. this is what i mean about asking the truth. (sorry it has to be for my bad english) . i really hope that kishi didnt make it that way on purpose

Of course he's going to act most favorably towards his mother's words - its something that he's always wanted to know, I'm sure, that he had unconditional parental love. Here was also nothing to take away from the moment like watching the person about to throw themselves against a ruthless opponent she knows she canno beat or hiding something huge underneath what she is saying and mixing falsehoods in. Naruto's reaction to Hinata's confession was shock - nothing to indicate that he reciprocates her feelings in any way.

well. i will tell you some of my stupid opinion. you may ignore it since i cant even tell you in a right way

about the word and the feel --Click here to view--

kurama's statement refer to biijus. but i generalize it and found it make sense. even us human being can sense feeling from the other. about the 3 ' i love you' we are talking, I (you may disagree) feel that naruto can sense the love transmitted along with the words from kushina and hinata. this is not a fact. just what i feel while seeing naruto's responses. this also made me come to conclusion that it was kurama who felt hinata's love at her confession. but again, this is not fact.

agreed u took the words of my mouth(or fingers).

Just to reinforce it.
Naruto knows that sakura loves sasuke but this didnt make him love sakura less or diminish his feelings for her.
and he stated here

then we agreed that naruto's love for sakura is selfless. lol paptala stole the spotlight like itachi did to sasuke

part 11 --Click here to view--

part 11 --Click here to view--

it's a pity that they put like instead of love on purpose.

it may be due to mistranslating. but i wonder if someone can correct it for us

both sakura and hinata expressed their feelings i think naruto is the only one that needs to express his feelings.

then the pairing war will end forever

Don't have the time to go into specifics, but Hinata's love for Naruto is canonically more selfish than Naruto's live for Sakura, and Sakura's feelings for Naruto. Tell me one time when Hinata placed Naruto's feelings before her own - like naruto did with the promise of a lifetime or Sakura did with her confession at the summit.

Naruto has shown zero romantic interest in Hinata since her confession - he thanked her for saving him and that was it. No smitten look on his face like when he watched Sakura display her new abilities in the second bell test, no blush, nothing to indicate that he sees her as anything more than a friend he is grateful to.

The last time we saw Hinata and Sakura thinking of Naruto, Hinata is thinking if HER feelings and how she wants Naruto to wait for HER, while Sakura is thinking of the burdens Naruto is tacit and how she will definite help him this time and not let him do things on his own.

i will save this for later

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

you may be right. but the point here is that naruto has never put 'winning sakura' to his gutsiness list. if he ever did, it would delete selflessness from your statement.

Of course not did u read that page i put, naruto will never express his feeling for her until he fullfill his promise it's on the list of things he will do.

but also it doest 'completely' remove naruhina, since its not resolved yet.

it's not "resolved" because pairing stuff tend to be put on the end of the series it's a shounen, but before it has development and sakura develop feelings for naruto, sakura has way more "love" development for naruto than hinata, sakura watched naruto's growth a man that she hates turning a man that she loves, better than hinata's back story love naruto without a logical reason and hide from him, she looked like a pairing fodder.

and dont come at me talking "wahh naruto was a loser but had determination blahblahblah" lee was a loser too and plus he could not use ninjutsu and had the same determination than naruto and she didnt fall in love with lee.

please check again. naruto's expression was changed before sakura asked him to forget sasuke and the promise. it was when sakura said that she has no feeling for sasuke anymore. and that was in a condition when naruto's mind, brain and heart is all about sasuke.

yes because he thinks that sakura still the same girl that he knew when she was 12-13 that fangirl sasuke, later he understand that she was doing this for him, she was going to kill sasuke to take the burden from naruto.
she proved that she could lay down her crush for sasuke, help naruto and decrease his burden and pain.
she offerend her company and herself to naruto if it help diminish the pain and burden.
it's proved again that she is not that selfish girl from classic and she cares more about naruto than sasuke himself.

if someone you like, but you believe he/she like someone else come to confess to you. the first question come to your mind would be "is it true?" then the second would be "how, why, what happened etc etc?" but naruto skipped the first. this is what i mean about asking the truth. (sorry it has to be for my bad english) . i really hope that kishi didnt make it that way on purpose

he said exactly what u are saying but with other words
"this is a joke" works the same with "is it true" but naruto said "it is a joke" as a sign of his imaturity.
and he said "what happened".

kurama's statement refer to biijus. but i generalize it and found it make sense. even us human being can sense feeling from the other. about the 3 ' i love you' we are talking, I (you may disagree) feel that naruto can sense the love transmitted along with the words from kushina and hinata. this is not a fact. just what i feel while seeing naruto's responses. this also made me come to conclusion that it was kurama who felt hinata's love at her confession. but again, this is not fact.

WTF!? i dont even need to explain this.
Kyubbi said that naruto needs to prove himself because kurama had felt two naruto way before the dark naruto and naruto himself, kyuubi wanted naruto to prove that he's still the same guy because he knew that naruto could escape, he just wanted to see if naruto lose his hope or not.

Edited by dovahkiin, 03 July 2012 - 04:48 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Oh no Kurama supports NH.

[Dalton.T.R]

[KnS]

but also it doest 'completely' remove naruhina, since its not resolved yet.

The reality is, there is no NaruHina. There's only Hina.

And frankly, it astonishes me how an entire ship can be built around a self-centered, one-sided crush of a very minor character, and how a zillion people can spend so much time arguing about whether or not it is a legitimate pairing.

There is no "pairing" because Naruto has no romantic interest in Hinata. None. Fans of the NH fantasy can imagine it all they want, and try to twist Naruto's interactions with Hinata into something that suits them and their romantic expectations on Hinata's behalf, but it doesn't change what's on the pages of Kishimoto's story.

Kishimoto has gone to painstaking lengths to demonstrate that Naruto's actions regarding Hinata are those of a future leader/hero only. He has championed her weakness, been grateful for her willing sacrifice, and more recently gave her a cheerful pep talk when her confidence was flagging in the midst of battle. Only the most willfully blind shipper can construe any of those events as being romantic in nature from Naruto's side.

Meanwhile, there's the obvious and inescapable torpedo to the NH ship: Naruto loves Sakura.

[Dalton.T.R]

too many smileys, cant tell who is who in that scene...

Oookaayy...

Sakura:

Hinata:

Sakura:

Hinsta:

Sakura:

Sakura:

Sakura:

Naruto&Sakura:

NaruSaku fans:

NaruHina fans:

[Tendo Ryuken]

Oh no Kurama supports NH.

what?? man you get it wrong. its otherwise. i mean if it was really kurama who feel it then its mean it was NOT naruto. how this support NH? you may didnt read my first post. im a narusaku fan who is looking for proofs around the net.

Of course not did u read that page i put, naruto will never express his feeling for her until he fullfill his promise it's on the list of things he will do.

lol are you telling me that you are paptala?

[Gravenimage]

what?? man you get it wrong. its otherwise. i mean if it was really kurama who feel it then its mean it was NOT naruto. how this support NH? you may didnt read my first post. im a narusaku fan who is looking for proofs around the net.


lol are you telling me that you are paptala?

Just kidding lol.

[CloudMountainJuror]

The reality is, there is no NaruHina. There's only Hina.

And frankly, it astonishes me how an entire ship can be built around a self-centered, one-sided crush of a very minor character, and how a zillion people can spend so much time arguing about whether or not it is a legitimate pairing.

There is no "pairing" because Naruto has no romantic interest in Hinata. None. Fans of the NH fantasy can imagine it all they want, and try to twist Naruto's interactions with Hinata into something that suits them and their romantic expectations on Hinata's behalf, but it doesn't change what's on the pages of Kishimoto's story.

Kishimoto has gone to painstaking lengths to demonstrate that Naruto's actions regarding Hinata are those of a future leader/hero only. He has championed her weakness, been grateful for her willing sacrifice, and more recently gave her a cheerful pep talk when her confidence was flagging in the midst of battle. Only the most willfully blind shipper can construe any of those events as being romantic in nature from Naruto's side.

Meanwhile, there's the obvious and inescapable torpedo to the NH ship: Naruto loves Sakura.

And that's game over. *applause*