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#19641 Gojira

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 04:42 AM

I think it because came out in SJ is 85% likely to be written by an editor


so legit then? I'm a little confused because of how you worded it.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 05:21 AM

 

so legit then? I'm a little confused because of how you worded it.          

Well it is true that I'm not 100% sure, it is best to wait to see what others think and know, but I think that if it is written by an editor because is a short description of a character  in SJ

I think that when the analysis is much more extensive and summarizes several chapters outside of the central ítems, is much more likely to be done by the opinion of a journalist,


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 06:44 AM

 I have not seen this before. Nice find.

 

i'd like to know as well.

 

I'm not 100% sure, since I found it looking through google Its impossible to know what the raw of it said (though it was most likely something similar)

It looks like one of the character profiles that are in SJ but I'm not sure if those are written by the mangaka or someone else.

 

If it's in an official book... Kishi would of had to have wrote that. 

 

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That's from this book:

 

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As you can see, it's called an "official" character data book and Kishimoto is listed as the sole author.  That means it is meant to be a companion or guide to canon.

 

So are we counting it as legit or bs?

 

 

The panel is "legit" as shown, and legitimately written by Kishimoto.  Keep in mind, however, that Kishimoto has deviated a few times from the information he wrote in this databook.  That leads many people to discount the contents of the databooks entirely.  Use it as evidence at your own peril.

 

Also, since it is the English version you are depending on the translators at Viz Media to have accurately represented what Kishimoto wrote in the original Japanese version.



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:12 AM

Thank you SO much!

 

I don't remember that because was a long time ago  perfect!

 

By the way I love megumi0505 review about NS this part is funny :

 

 

....I just, NaruSaku’s development is so fleshed out and so beautiful and gradual to the point where if you’re not paying attention you will miss it, it’s just so masterfully done. I can’t imagine the author not going all the way with it. 

Naruto is sort of the author’s own self-insert character and in real life, he married a woman like Sakura, so I can imagine the author being biased towards his own self-insert character getting with a character in the story who’s like his wife. 

 

http://megumi0505.tu...sakus-happening

 

xD and yeah Kishimoto admitted that Kushina is inspired for his wife in his interview about Mario


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:22 AM

I always ask to Naruto what I can answer to NH fans

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You nailed it lol


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:54 AM

Thank you SO much!
 
I don't remember that because was a long time ago  perfect!
 
By the way I love megumi0505 review about NS this part is funny :
 
 
http://megumi0505.tu...sakus-happening
 
xD and yeah Kishimoto admitted

that Kushina is inspired for his wife in his interview about Mario


And according to Oda she looks exactly like Sakura.

Also someone here was talking about another interview with Kishi where he talks about how when he was a kid he was a troublemaker child on a baseball team, who had a crush on a girl who ended up going out with the best player on the team who from what I hear was a jerk....apparently years later after college Kishi met the girl again who was single at the time, they went out got married and had kids.

Not sure if this interview is legit or not (because well I'm just too lazy to check) but this seems eerily similar to the Team 7 dynamic.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:10 AM

And according to Oda she looks exactly like Sakura.

Darn you Kishi XD. Lucky you. I envy him XD

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 09:11 AM

AntiSasuSaku_PROOF_DONT_FAVE_by_AntiSasu
That's from this book:
 
DB3.jpg
 
As you can see, it's called an "official" character data book and Kishimoto is listed as the sole author.  That means it is meant to be a companion or guide to canon.
 


 
The panel is "legit" as shown, and legitimately written by Kishimoto.  Keep in mind, however, that Kishimoto has deviated a few times from the information he wrote in this databook.  That leads many people to discount the contents of the databooks entirely.  Use it as evidence at your own peril.
 
Also, since it is the English version you are depending on the translators at Viz Media to have accurately represented what Kishimoto wrote in the original Japanese version.

Like what for example?

Viz's translation didn't change the subject to being pro SS which is unlike them and that's a good sign though I guess we could ask someone who has the raw data book to be sure there's gotta be someone lurking around here or NF like that

It seems pretty consistent with Part 2 Sakura atleast up till the end of the Pein arc whenever Sasuke was brought it was never in a romantic light it was always seemingly platonic and quite frankly paled in comparison to how obsessed Naruto was with him. The only real thing that seems to contradict it is Sai and Naruto's statements in LOI and 540 which is fine since those are debatable anyway.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 11:59 AM

Like what for example?

Viz's translation didn't change the subject to being pro SS which is unlike them and that's a good sign though I guess we could ask someone who has the raw data book to be sure there's gotta be someone lurking around here or NF like that

It seems pretty consistent with Part 2 Sakura atleast up till the end of the Pein arc whenever Sasuke was brought it was never in a romantic light it was always seemingly platonic and quite frankly paled in comparison to how obsessed Naruto was with him. The only real thing that seems to contradict it is Sai and Naruto's statements in LOI and 540 which is fine since those are debatable anyway.

I don't mean to sound like an Idiot but what is this LOI you keep talking about ??


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 12:15 PM

I don't mean to sound like an Idiot but what is this LOI you keep talking about ??

Land of iron but I keep thinking it's laugh out loud. Just say kage summit arc.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 12:15 PM

I don't mean to sound like an Idiot but what is this LOI you keep talking about ??

Land Of Iron

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 12:50 PM

Well, if I can beat Dark Souls 2 tonight, good things come. if not, it's all guessing game.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 12:57 PM

Ohhhh  :wot:  :wot:


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:18 PM

a Naruhina tard said this"please tell me the last chapter that contained a narusaku moment that wasnt used for comedy? all u can say about sakura and naruto is that sakura only acknowledges him as a good friend and teammate so "we can say sakura has no romantic feelings for naruto and call it a day"

 

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:22 PM

a Naruhina tard said this"please tell me the last chapter that contained a narusaku moment that wasnt used for comedy? all u can say about sakura and naruto is that sakura only acknowledges him as a good friend and teammate so "we can say sakura has no romantic feelings for naruto and call it a day"

 

<< I need a badass reply.

Please tell me the last chapter that contained a naruhina moment that wasn't used for confidence boost?


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:28 PM

a Naruhina tard said this"please tell me the last chapter that contained a narusaku moment that wasnt used for comedy? all u can say about sakura and naruto is that sakura only acknowledges him as a good friend and teammate so "we can say sakura has no romantic feelings for naruto and call it a day"
 
<< I need a badass reply.

Please tell me the last chapter where Naruto gave a kitten to Hinata's romantic feelings for him.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:29 PM

Luffy@ you hit the nail on the head this^. A cookie for you.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:34 PM

OMG I'M SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!!!   Hinata tard replied to a NaruSaku fan.

"Downplaying moments, how sad, I guess trying to make it look like friendship is all you can do.

considering that NaruSaku has been given no romantic development, so you are going to try and discredit the NaruHina development in the last 240+ chapters, still on the defensive there I see, at least come up with something original and at least try to back up with credible evidence. so far NaruSaku supporters have not produced evidence that can justify their pairing. while Chapter 615 is a real stand out for NaruHina, if that was really a friendship moment then Naruto would never have held Hinata's hand, you know just saying. you can go with that friendship argument, but that will not stand for too long, it also makes your argument look weak and also makes you look desperate. as I said come up with some credible evidence, and no don't Sai, because if you do, you basically lose the argument."


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:47 PM

OMG I'M SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!!!   Hinata tard replied to a NaruSaku fan.

"Downplaying moments, how sad, I guess trying to make it look like friendship is all you can do.

considering that NaruSaku has been given no romantic development, so you are going to try and discredit the NaruHina development in the last 240+ chapters, still on the defensive there I see, at least come up with something original and at least try to back up with credible evidence. so far NaruSaku supporters have not produced evidence that can justify their pairing. while Chapter 615 is a real stand out for NaruHina, if that was really a friendship moment then Naruto would never have held Hinata's hand, you know just saying. you can go with that friendship argument, but that will not stand for too long, it also makes your argument look weak and also makes you look desperate. as I said come up with some credible evidence, and no don't Sai, because if you do, you basically lose the argument."

If there's no reasoning just laugh and ignore.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 03:51 PM

OMG I'M SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!!!   Hinata tard replied to a NaruSaku fan.
"Downplaying moments, how sad, I guess trying to make it look like friendship is all you can do.
considering that NaruSaku has been given no romantic development, so you are going to try and discredit the NaruHina development in the last 240+ chapters, still on the defensive there I see, at least come up with something original and at least try to back up with credible evidence. so far NaruSaku supporters have not produced evidence that can justify their pairing. while Chapter 615 is a real stand out for NaruHina, if that was really a friendship moment then Naruto would never have held Hinata's hand, you know just saying. you can go with that friendship argument, but that will not stand for too long, it also makes your argument look weak and also makes you look desperate. as I said come up with some credible evidence, and no don't Sai, because if you do, you basically lose the argument."

Yes yes, kittenin ban everyone Yamato, Sai, Kakashi everyone who supports NS. Yes, we discredit NH developments which were not there in the first place, but still yes we do discredit them because NS has been in constant development for past 678 chapters. If they rely on Naruto's feelings, I don't remember a single moment where Naruto acted with her like he does with Sakura, selflessly. If you can ask them an evidence of Naruto's changing feelings. NO ROMANTIC DEVELOPMENT! I really don't know whether I should laugh or get angry. One more thing, if we rely on friendship, ask them whether Hinata and Naruto share such a close bond as Naruto and Sakura? No right? So, how can they love each other, if they don't know each other that well?

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