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#19621 Hiraishin

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 06:03 PM

Kishi will probably take the "NH was planned since the beginning (even though I said last week that the ending was only planned 3 months before)!" to his grave.


Did he really say that? Does anyone have a link to that?

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 06:51 PM

I HATE RON WITH A PASSION. I CANNOT STAND HIM. If I ever hated a character and his uglee ass it would be ron.


I've moved to writing HP fanfics now. I'm a Dramione shipper. I love the whole pureblood muggleborn relationship really sweet and awesome.

I ship Draco x Hermione, Harry x Hermione( not much since I gotten used to him with Ginny), and Tom aka Voldermort x Hermione( Time Travel stories if written properly are great.

THANK YOU!! I also hate Ron, I tried liking him since he is Harry's "best friend" and all but he is really just a whiny little b*tch who is constantly jealous of Harry and Hermione over the pettiest little things. He's also insecure and shallow. Hermione deserved SO MUCH better, what the kitten was JK thinking?
And yeah, his face is ugly no offense Rupert Grint.

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 07:56 PM

Some dumbass on a Naruto forum said Naruto was better than Harry Potter because it focused on "romantic love" and all these bullsh*t crushes while HP focused on boring "family love".  This kitten obviously doesn't love his family or have any depth to him other than wanting p*ssy or staring at Hinata's t*ts.  YA'LL HEAR THAT!??  This kitten says Naruto is better than Harry Potter BECAUSE of all the horrible unrequited crushes and trashy love triangles!!  Now, HP isn't perfect but only an idiot would think that Naruto is better!!!  Naruto is one of the trashiest lamest animes I've ever seen and nothing can compare to that monstrosity.  I think that lame weeboo was just mad that HP is a far more successful franchise than Naruto will ever be and that one Harry Potter movie made more money than the entire sh*tty Nardo franchise combined.  

Gawd...another proof that these people are just spoilt teenagers who don't understand a thing about life (and literature)...

Manga or not, family  is way more important than anything else, plus, Naruto is known to have the kittentiest love triangle in all the literary universe, so they should stop spewing kitten just like Kishi does.

Plus this is like comparing JK Rowling to Kishi... like...seriously ???? o_o 


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Posted 10 May 2015 - 08:17 PM

Gawd...another proof that these people are just spoilt teenagers who don't understand a thing about life (and literature)...

Manga or not, family  is way more important than anything else, plus, Naruto is known to have the kittentiest love triangle in all the literary universe, so they should stop spewing kitten just like Kishi does.

 

Most Narutards are ignorant little teenagers.  Except Forneverworld who's stuck in puberty forever.

 

All of Ron's good attributes were given to either Hermoine or Harry in the movies, but I know he's a precious baby in the book and I haven't even read them. :c But I don't see jealousy as a problem unless people act on it, which Ron avoided for the most part. The movies ruined both Ron and Ginny tbh.

 

I read all 7 books and Ron is still his jealous whining self in them.  Trust me, Ron's jealousy is a bad thing, he's made Hermione cry over it and abandoned Harry in the middle of their Horcruz-destroying mission (he also ditched Harry when everyone was ignoring him cuz he got picked for the Triwizard tournament.  Ron thought Harry snuck himself into the tournament for glory and was jealous, when it was really people trying to kill Harry)

Ginny was boring as hell in the movies but she wasn't much likeable in the 6th book either being a snarky b*tch to her brother's fiance Fleur. 



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Posted 10 May 2015 - 08:53 PM

Guys were getting off topic

 

I don't think anything should be compared to the travesty that is Naruto.  :ermm:



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Posted 10 May 2015 - 11:18 PM

Why do you hate Ron so much O.o?

Ron is male version of sakura.

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 11:58 PM

Pretty much fans give him so much hate because he did not lick the boots of Harry and got in the way of their ship. Draco x Hermione never made much sense canon wise, although, still my favorite crack pairing. I just wished that Draco had gotten deveoplment to the point where he was able to stand up to his parents and stood with Harry in the end and this would have been a better outcome. Of course, they forget that the reason Ron dropped them in seven was due to the Horcuzx messing with his mind
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Posted 11 May 2015 - 12:09 AM

Did he really say that? Does anyone have a link to that?

 

I don't remember where it's from, but I know it was from an interview after the series came out. 



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Posted 11 May 2015 - 02:24 AM

Did he really say that? Does anyone have a link to that?

It was during the weeks after Chapter 700 and not long after The Last came out, IIRC.

In one interview, when asked about the planning for the ending, he said it was planned only three months prior to the ending.

The very next week, another interview came out with a similar question asked, but this time, Kishi said that the ending was planned since the very beginning (which goes completely against not only what he said the previous week, but in a number of data books and other things he said over the years) and, IIRC, had all that stuff about the NS parallels being "red herrings" and that the fans must have "misread" things, which, even to this day, still pisses us off and killed any future and trust that he had as a mangaka (outside of extremist NH/SS fans) since he basically is trying to pass blame for the hatred of the ending from himself, for not being able to come up with anything himself and just giving into whatever later editors and Studio Pierrot wanted, onto the very people that were truly responsible for keeping him and the franchise afloat - us, the majority of actual fans of the story in its entirety.


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Posted 11 May 2015 - 02:45 AM

Who here still keeps up with the anime? Not me.

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 03:14 AM

Who here still keeps up with the anime? Not me.

 

Naruto anime sucks bad.  Don't watch it.

 

Ron is male version of sakura.

 

Not really.  Sakura is extremely helpful in Shippuden and is mostly hated out of petty reasons that have to do with shipping..  Ron is disliked by most HP fans for being an overall kitten and having a whining lame attitude

Pretty much fans give him so much hate because he did not lick the boots of Harry and got in the way of their ship. Draco x Hermione never made much sense canon wise, although, still my favorite crack pairing. I just wished that Draco had gotten deveoplment to the point where he was able to stand up to his parents and stood with Harry in the end and this would have been a better outcome. Of course, they forget that the reason Ron dropped them in seven was due to the Horcuzx messing with his mind

 

Most people dislike Ron because he's a jerk and is kinda useless, not cuz he doesn't "lick the boots" of Harry.  Ron F-ing up Harry/Hermione does exacerbate my dislike of him, but it's not the reason I hate him.  I don't hate Ginny. 

Harry and Hermione also wore the horcux but they didn't abandon the group or start any fights.  The horcrux brought out the bad things that were already there in Ron.  His worst nightmare was also confirmed to be Harry and Hermione making out (not his family dying or something more significant) which is kinda lame since there was never any romantic feelings between Harry & Hermione to begin with,



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Posted 11 May 2015 - 03:35 AM

Pretty much fans give him so much hate because he did not lick the boots of Harry and got in the way of their ship. Draco x Hermione never made much sense canon wise, although, still my favorite crack pairing. I just wished that Draco had gotten deveoplment to the point where he was able to stand up to his parents and stood with Harry in the end and this would have been a better outcome. Of course, they forget that the reason Ron dropped them in seven was due to the Horcuzx messing with his mind

I like Ron, never hated him at all infact I never hated anyone...I thought he would end up with Hermione since forever while I used to crush on Harry (:lulz:)

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 03:54 AM

This is going to be brief but comparing JKR to Kishimoto or Stephanie Myer is like me comparing apples to bananas. Since J.K.R can write while the other two can not write a decent novel if it hit them in the behind.


Also, I am just debating about Ron he is a jerk don't get me wrong but I don't understand the hate he gets from the fandom. He is a middle child and yes their will be flawed characters with middle children in stories. He seemed real to me instead of having him worship Harry, he treated him like a sibling would do he became jelous of the attention he had been given in the Tiwzard Tourment. That jealousy also was amplified by the Hourcux in seven to make him leave the group.
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Posted 11 May 2015 - 03:57 AM

@aizen
Sound like sakura to me.

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 03:59 AM

I like Ron, never hated him at all infact I never hated anyone...I thought he would end up with Hermione since forever while I used to crush on Harry (:lulz:)
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Same I never hated Ron for acting like he did because I knew he was one of the children of five slibings and added a sixth with Harry who became somewhat of a adopted family member.
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Posted 11 May 2015 - 04:11 AM

Same I never hated Ron for acting like he did because I knew he was one of the children of five slibings and added a sixth with Harry who became somewhat of a adopted family member.

Pretty much, I just feel the hate is unnecessary because he may be a jerk, but he still is a good person as he basically treated Harry as a brother

Ohh we probably went off topic for too long, sorry about that

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 04:41 AM

This is going to be brief but comparing JKR to Kishimoto or Stephanie Myer is like me comparing apples to bananas. Since J.K.R can write while the other two can not write a decent novel if it hit them in the behind.


Also, I am just debating about Ron he is a jerk don't get me wrong but I don't understand the hate he gets from the fandom. He is a middle child and yes their will be flawed characters with middle children in stories. He seemed real to me instead of having him worship Harry, he treated him like a sibling would do he became jelous of the attention he had been given in the Tiwzard Tourment. That jealousy also was amplified by the Hourcux in seven to make him leave the group.

 

I agree with this, the subject of HP & Naruto only came up because I was mad about some guy saying Naruto was better than Harry Potter.  I wasn't comparing the two series, only saying why I don't like Ron. 

I disagree with the 2nd bolded though, none of the characters worshiped Harry except for Colin Creevey, and I don't think it's normal behavior for siblings to ditch eachother out of jealousy.  It has to do with their insecurity.  Harry said Hermione was "like a sister" to him in the 7th book and she didn't get jealous when he got picked for the Triwizard tournament.

As for Ron, well, I don't want to hate him so I try to see his good points.  It's hard though because his vices seem to outweigh his virtues.  JKR herself said she considered killing off Ron and I wish she had hehehe.

 

@aizen
Sound like sakura to me.

 

Comparing Ron to Sakura is stupid.  None of the characters from HP resemble Naruto enough to make a legit comparison.


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Posted 11 May 2015 - 05:26 AM

Harry and Ginny should of had a bit more development. Rowling waited until the last two books. I thought that HarryxLuna would have been an interesting pairing. At least Rowling had the good sense to not continue the series with the next generation. Or extend it after Voldemort's death.

Wish I could say the same for a certain manga writer

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 05:32 AM

Harry and Ginny should of had a bit more development. Rowling waited until the last two books. I thought that HarryxLuna would have been an interesting pairing. At least Rowling had the good sense to not continue the series with the next generation. Or extend it after Voldemort's death.

Wish I could say the same for a certain manga writer

 

I wonder who is he... :pimp:


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Posted 11 May 2015 - 07:02 AM

Who here still keeps up with the anime? Not me.

 

I haven't truly kept up since after Jiraiya vs, Pein. I did check back in to see how Naruto vs. Pein would look and got that whole eyeful of QUALITY animation (outside of SP's precious Hinata-sama, probably who they spent their entire episode budget on animating every little detail along with that extended "rescue attempt" by her that never originally existed before). Otherwise, I haven't watched a single episode since.


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