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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:53 PM

Really excited to see what other power-ups Sakura's gonna get. Hopefully this power-up or the next one will put a rest to the ridiculous debate of Hinata being on par and/or being stronger than Sakura. Lol pure madness.

 

I'm afraid that would chage nothing. Biased people are always in denial and haters always gonna hate. Even if Sakura should save the world with a her jutsu, haters will always bash her by telling something like "That was a Naruto's job along Hinata!!! kitten!"


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:59 PM

I view Hinata as the timid girl in the corner(if you leave Naruto out of this), she would fit in the 1800's. I don't really like that, because I hate the discrimination of that time.

 

Sakura is the opposite, she doesn't take kitten. She would say "I don't belong in the kitchen :fan: !" :lol:

Naruto seems the quite of guy that enjoy a relationship with a tsundere, i think she doesnt fit with Hinata and due to the paralles and why he loves Sakura i strongly believe that he doesnt feel attracted to Hinata.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 11:01 PM

 

I'm afraid that would chage nothing. Biased people are always in denial and haters always gonna hate. Even if Sakura should save the world with a her jutsu, haters will always bash her by telling something like "That was a Naruto's job along Hinata!!! b*tch!"

 

Not majority, but i believe some will change. Acknowledgement from the god of ninja, activating the yin seal, managing a summoning, and standing side by side next to two monsters of a teammate. She's only getting warmed up, bro   :eager:


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 11:20 PM

Really excited to see what other power-ups Sakura's gonna get. Hopefully this power-up or the next one will put a rest to the ridiculous debate of Hinata being on par and/or being stronger than Sakura. Lol pure madness.

Funny because I already see her stronger than any Kunoichi in there. But if people wants to be debate, well, don't tell them I didn't warn them...

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:39 AM

Really excited to see what other power-ups Sakura's gonna get. Hopefully this power-up or the next one will put a rest to the ridiculous debate of Hinata being on par and/or being stronger than Sakura. Lol pure madness.

 

pfft XD Sakura doesn't need to release any more power to beat Hinata at this point.

 

heck~ Sakura can probably take all of the konoha 9 right now (ya know...excluding Naruto and Sasuke)


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:44 AM

I just ran across some comments that praise Tsunade for making a "useless character" stronger. :twitch:

 

Haters are feeling butt hurt because they know the character they hate so much has become stronger than a certain Hyuuga princess. :fan:


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:52 AM

After seeing the hate of the past two weeks towards Sakura and NaruSaku, its just reached a level of well, its run off, I mean 2 weeks ago, there was a meltdown due to the Sakura-Kushina event. The last week we got people leaping all over how Sakura reacted to Sasuke but not Naruto, now we have this internal moment of Hinata just using Neji's instruction and Naruto's determination to complete her skill and just keep moving forward. Haters to me now act like they are trying to find something that undermines or overtakes 631's Sakura-Kushina event, but this is a not happened and I just don't see how it can be overtaken, undermined, or redone. I mean minato is not going to go, "oh that Hyuga girl must be Naruto's girlfriend." or "Kushina is wrong." Basically almost anything for Hinata or SS, people are trying to act like it does something but nothing happened to Kushina's foreshadow, the Sakura-Kushina parallel just was built upon it and it will continue forward. If anything another parallel was confirmed in full with the summonings, now the Sannin parallel has been fulfilled, all of team 7 has their instructors teachings shown within them. I feel that the start of 631 however is only the beginning, as haters may not like it 631 could only have been the start of NS stuff. In other words, NS has a lot of ammo left.

 

The big guns, basi:

-Kushina's foreshadow, recently built on due to the Sakura-Kushina parallel from Minato, this will resurface later most likely with other past development between in NS.

-The forehead compliment, if this arises, it may be an imminent event for NS to come forward, the whole parallel, similar background of events between Naruto-Sakura and Minato-Kushina could come forward. Heck you can count Sakura's forehead seal as a reason for this too.

-The final fight, Naruto vs. Sasuke, Sakura has always been caught between these 2, this can be the point she turns if not yet at this point. In other words, Sakura has a lot of importance here, worried over them dying, I say this is the ace in the hole.

 

Other elements which can come up:

- Sakura's knowledge of Naruto loving her- has not been touched upon since after the confession, if she brings it up or Naruto does himself, she can reveal she knew because of Sai. This is not insane to think, this is reasonable.

- Addressing the land of iron events, its possible unless Naruto really is the forgive and forget type, he knew why Sakura did it, for him and his wellbeing. No reason to think he would be angry at her.

- Naruto's clarifying his feelings for Sakura, to some 631 may not have been enough so unless we see something more direct or obvious by a thought or comment, then that can clear some stuff up.

- Sakura putting Naruto over Sasuke, again she has done this in the past a few times, it can happen again.Something like her siding with Naruto for hokage or putting concern for him above Sasuke in the vs. Sasuke fight.

- Furthering Yamato's and Sai's perception, this can come back in a flashback, mainly if we get some scene of Sakura realizing how Naruto likes her and if she truly loves Naruto.

- Further input from Minato, long as he is there this can come up again.

- Sasuke giving Sakura a kakashi-rin I'm not the right guy, or "that was not me on that day" type ordeal speech. If Sasuke talks to Sakura the same way over his actions like Kakashi did to rin, that fits a parallel, if not but we get something like Sasuke only remembering what he said to Sakura that day (about being alone) then that would trigger the forehead compliment event.

 

 

Heck there are more then this I bet, but already 9 extra things in reserve, this is all I can think of but NS has 3 big guns it can use and a few more left in reserve as reoccuring or minor events. Still this is quite a nice lineup. So yeah, we got a few shots left and 631 was the opening and just the start. Heres hoping this things or stuff like them comes forward. :thumbsup:



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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:04 AM

 

Haters are feeling butt hurt because they know the character they hate so much has become stronger than a certain Hyuuga princess. :fan:

 Haters hate Sakura, because they knew deep inside that Sakura was always stronger then ssj Hinata

 

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:37 AM

sakura now reach sannin level aka kage level(low to mid tier).

and if people try to deny that, than i ask, what is tsunade power level?

 

because i think, all rookie at least get to their parent level.



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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:59 AM

Sakura has shown that she cares about Naruto, but has she ever shown any affection?



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Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:26 AM

Sakura has shown that she cares about Naruto, but has she ever shown any affection?

 

The first two major things I can think of right now would be the hug and when she was about to feed Naruto. Those just screamed "affection" to me. 


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:56 AM

 
The first two major things I can think of right now would be the hug and when she was about to feed Naruto. Those just screamed "affection" to me. 


If you ask me, I would add Sakura crying when she learns about the death of jinchuriki when their bijuu is removed and at the tenchi bridge where she nearly sacrifices her life just to have Naruto return to his former self should be added to the list of "Affections"

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:11 AM

There's many of affections scene when she still doesn't know. That's what make the DB3 very accurate.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:54 AM

Do you guys think Hinata doesn't know about Naruto's affection for Sakura?

 

She might now know the extent of his feelings ( If someone is watching someone from afar for years, I would think she would know but w.e) , but it's pretty far fetched to think she might not know he's at least interested. What's odd is that she is never shown thinking about his feelings for her. Not once do i recall her acknowledging that he is romantically interested in another girl. It's odd to think she's madly in love with him, but never noticed this about him. 


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 05:47 AM

Do you guys think Hinata doesn't know about Naruto's affection for Sakura?

 

She might now know the extent of his feelings ( If someone is watching someone from afar for years, I would think she would know but w.e) , but it's pretty far fetched to think she might not know he's at least interested. What's odd is that she is never shown thinking about his feelings for her. Not once do i recall her acknowledging that he is romantically interested in another girl. It's odd to think she's madly in love with him, but never noticed this about him. 

 

I don't remember her once thinking anything besides things centered around Naruto. I don't mean to sound so harsh on her character but that's what I see. Even with Sakura's hug scene, Hinata's thoughts were interestingly left unheard. Yes she smiled, but what were her thoughts? Anyways, if she does or does not know, I do not think it really matters because she is still thinking of Naruto, in my opinion, romantically and will try to confront him again  :smile:  if that is what Kishi will do. I think a conversation with Naruto will do her character some good. Even when he loves another girl, Hinata still loves him.


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:02 AM

 

I don't remember her once thinking anything besides things centered around Naruto. I don't mean to sound so harsh on her character but that's what I see. Even with Sakura's hug scene, Hinata's thoughts were interestingly left unheard. Yes she smiled, but what were her thoughts? Anyways, if she does or does not know, I do not think it really matters because she is still thinking of Naruto, in my opinion, romantically and will try to confront him again  :smile:  if that is what Kishi will do. I think a conversation with Naruto will do her character some good. Even when he loves another girl, Hinata still loves him.

I guess I find it strange...If she truly wants to physically pursue something romantic with Naruto, wouldnt she acknowledge that he has feelings for someone else at some point? Even just once.It's strange to think she wants to be with him romantically, without ever thinking about feelings he's had for the same girl since he was a little kid.

 

If you were in her place and decided you wanted to be with a person romantically, wouldnt you think about how the would work if that person obviously has long term feelings for someone else?


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:57 AM

If a relationship with Naruto was the last thing Sakura wanted she wouldn't have confessed her love to him at all. It's because she feels something for Naruto that she was able to say I love you. The dishonesty of her confession comes from the fact that she still has feelings for Sasuke, not about not feeling love for Naruto. To a smart person that should've been obvious.

 

I think until we get some confirmation in the manga, that point will still be debatable.

 

 

 

You're talking about the Cinderella archetype when a humble girl gets everything after tons of hard work. I hate that fairy tail. Nevertheless, oriantal societies prefer the submissive type too, marriage-wise. Actually, in Europe (including Russia) most women are neither quiet nor shy. And men just deal with that or fantasize about submissive dolls. Well, those boys have nothing in common with Naruto. 

 

Also known as the Shrinking Violet.

 

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:16 AM

- Sasuke giving Sakura a kakashi-rin I'm not the right guy, or "that was not me on that day" type ordeal speech. If Sasuke talks to Sakura the same way over his actions like Kakashi did to rin, that fits a parallel, if not but we get something like Sasuke only remembering what he said to Sakura that day (about being alone) then that would trigger the forehead compliment event.

No, i would never want this to happen because

 

1) this would put Sasuke OOC

 

2) Sakura would potentially regress to part 1 without the fangirling just so sasuke could say this... it's not worth the damage Sakura's character would recieve for this


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:26 AM

No, i would never want this to happen because

 

1) this would put Sasuke OOC

 

2) Sakura would potentially regress to part 1 without the fangirling just so sasuke could say this... it's not worth the damage Sakura's character would recieve for this

Not to mention Sasuke turning her down and saying he isn't the right guy is still like making Naruto second choice.

 

Sakura needs to figure out her feelings on her own or get a small push from someone other than Sasuke.



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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:46 AM

people are always talking about how eastern societies uphold that submissive women are the preference, but  then why in the world is the rough aggressive love interest so popular in anime and manga?

 

These are just some dubbs that I started watching as a child. I'm sure more advid manga reader and anime watchers could add to it.

 

Dragonball and Dragonball Z: Chi-chi and Bulma are both love interest to main characters,  and are both more aggressive than submissive. Videl too

Rurouni Kenshin : Kaoru and Megumi. While Megumi's affections were not returned, both she and Kaoru can be tough and even physical with the male leads.

Inuyasha: Kagome and Sango both share that same Tsundere trait. Both are love interest as well.

and we already know Naruto : Shikamaru's mom, Sakura, (though she has not made her way to the actual series Kishi did write her character in the movie, so im including Sakura's mother) Kushina and Tsunade all lean more towards being aggressive over submissive and quiet. All to different degrees. 

 

LOL. Maybe it's just the animes they chose to dub, but from what I see, Hinata is pretty much the only prominent to semi prominent female character that is not prone to smacking around men or giving them an ear full for being ridiculous.


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