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#1941 Poison_In_Your_Coffee

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:34 AM

QUOTE ({Jade~Rabbit} @ Jan 2 2013, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's annoying about it is that she goes from giving a badass lecture to cupping the guys face and fangasming for holding his hand.

Why on earth annoying? I thought it was really cute and funny. She can give badass speeches and prepare to try to kick some ass and have a cute moment about the guy she likes.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:34 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 2 2013, 01:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't she cup his face before giving the speech? lol


She cupped his face throughout the entire thing lol

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

I think we will all agree that Hinata's character is only, ONLY about Naruto. It has been established many times. Hence her character development is also about Naruto ONLY. Which has been completed in 615 - she had her desired physical contact, he acknowledged her ('thank you') and that's all. Her (narrow) development is complete. We actually cannot ask for more from Kishi since she's just a side character. It would be impossible to fully develop side characters given we only get up to 20 pages per week.

Main characters, however, has to be fully developed - in strenght, in mind, in love, etc. And we get this complex development in Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura.

All the other characters appear in manga mostly with one purpose and they reach for it. For example:

Neji - proving better than the main house;
Lee - proving the value of hardwork;
Shikamaru - going from lazy deadlast in class to genius strategist;
Gaara - going from hated by everyone and hating everyone to Kazekage;
Chouji - going from fat sissy to powerful soldier;
etc etc.

Some side characters just are there without any development and it's okay as it is, e.g. Kiba, Shino... Of course, they get stronger, but every shinobi gets stronger with time, so it doesn't count.

And here we have Hinata. Her only purpose was to be next to Naruto. Now she is and that's as far as her character should go.

That's why her taking the spotlight of a heroine would be ridiculous. She achieved her purpose, now time to retreat back to the shadows or bushes or wherever she was.

If in the next chapters Hinata fights alongside Naruto as equal, that would be pure BS.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 1 2013, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pfft, that will never happen.


One time was enough and it was positive to her character development, doubt Kishi will do it again. Can't forget Hinata is not the only one in the field Kishi is going to focus on the other rookies.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE ({Jade~Rabbit} @ Jan 2 2013, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one's discounting that she encouraged Naruto beautifully. What's annoying about it is that she goes from giving a badass lecture to cupping the guys face and fangasming for holding his hand.

That's like if Sakura were to say "Omg Sasuke-kun's sooooo warm I can feel his muscles!" when she hugged him from behind after he flipped out on the Sound-nin during the Chunin Exams.

That's distasteful period - fangasming during a serious situation. I'm glad Sakura DIDN'T do that.

Yeah haha, she even said his hand made her feel safe.

I just want to tell her "Hey, Hinata! This is not a place to feel safe and calm!" 111193.gif

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

She started the lecture after the slap right? Idk, I couldn't go reread it after the panels of Neji laying there dead. Just couldn't handle it. =(

Either way it's all the same. She's still thinking about romance with the guy after her cousin just died and there's a war going on....

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

QUOTE (mone_ @ Jan 2 2013, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we will all agree that Hinata's character is only, ONLY about Naruto. It has been established many times. Hence her character development is also about Naruto ONLY. Which has been completed in 615 - she had her desired physical contact, he acknowledged her ('thank you') and that's all. Her (narrow) development is complete. We actually cannot ask for more from Kishi since she's just a side character. It would be impossible to fully develop side characters given we only get up to 20 pages per week.

Main characters, however, has to be fully developed - in strenght, in mind, in love, etc. And we get this complex development in Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura.

All the other characters appear in manga mostly with one purpose and they reach for it. For example:

Neji - proving better than the main house;
Lee - proving the value of hardwork;
Shikamaru - going from lazy deadlast in class to genius strategist;
Gaara - going from hated by everyone and hating everyone to Kazekage;
Chouji - going from fat sissy to powerful soldier;
etc etc.

Some side characters just are there without any development and it's okay as it is, e.g. Kiba, Shino... Of course, they get stronger, but every shinobi gets stronger with time, so it doesn't count.

And here we have Hinata. Her only purpose was to be next to Naruto. Now she is and that's as far as her character should go.

That's why her taking the spotlight of a heroine would be ridiculous. She achieved her purpose, now time to retreat back to the shadows or bushes or wherever she was.

If in the next chapters Hinata fights alongside Naruto as equal, that would be pure BS.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 1 2013, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One time was enough and it was positive to her character development, doubt Kishi will do it again. Can't forget Hinata is not the only one in the field Kishi is going to focus on the other rookies.

Damnit, stop ignoring my replies to your posts!! o: <

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE ({Jade~Rabbit} @ Jan 1 2013, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She started the lecture after the slap right? Idk, I couldn't go reread it after the panels of Neji laying there dead. Just couldn't handle it. =(

Either way it's all the same. She's still thinking about romance with the guy after her cousin just died and there's a war going on....

Yes, she did. Is that the only thing on her mind? No. Is that the main thing on her mind? No. What is? Fighting this war with Naruto.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jan 1 2013, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damnit, stop ignoring my replies to your posts!! o: <


Oops sorry looks like I added you to my ignore list that's why I couldn't reply to you. fu.png

Edited by Gravenimage, 02 January 2013 - 01:38 AM.

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#1951 Poison_In_Your_Coffee

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:39 AM

QUOTE ({Jade~Rabbit} @ Jan 2 2013, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She started the lecture after the slap right? Idk, I couldn't go reread it after the panels of Neji laying there dead. Just couldn't handle it. =(

Either way it's all the same. She's still thinking about romance with the guy after her cousin just died and there's a war going on....

No, she is lecturing Naruto about not forgetting Neji's sacrifice. It is Naruto who almost flips Neji the bird by falling in despair. This chapter has the villain's speech affect Naruto making him almost falter and forget the war and sacrifices of everyone. Hinata reminds him of that. So it's in fact exactly the opposite of what you suggest.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:39 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 1 2013, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oops sorry looks like I added you to my ignore list that's why I couldn't reply to you. fu.png


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:39 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 2 2013, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oops sorry looks like I added you to my ignore list that's why I couldn't reply to you. fu.png

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 1 2013, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oops sorry looks like I added you to my ignore list that's why I couldn't reply to you. fu.png

Yet you replied to my other post. Pfft, a fool can't fool me. th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 1 2013, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People still believe NH being canon is good writing?


I never said otherwise. You can complain about how NH is bad writing as much as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that whatever pairing happen in the end, it's gonna be an asspull, especially Narusaku. In fact, narusaku would be more of an asspul than naruhina if it happens right now.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (Askia31 @ Jan 1 2013, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never said otherwise. You can complain about how NH is bad writing as much as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that whatever pairing happen in the end, it's gonna be an asspull, especially Narusaku. In fact, narusaku would be more of an asspul than naruhina if it happens right now.

In your words, what will make NS an asspull? Please tell me this because I want to know.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:41 AM

I think people are being too mean now. confused.gif to halfstar but two posts came right after lol tongue.gif

Edited by sushi., 02 January 2013 - 01:42 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (Askia31 @ Jan 2 2013, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never said otherwise. You can complain about how NH is bad writing as much as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that whatever pairing happen in the end, it's gonna be an asspull, especially Narusaku. In fact, narusaku would be more of an asspul than naruhina if it happens right now.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:42 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 1 2013, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oooh, want some ointment for that burn?


Lol back on topic although I think this was for the best time to cool down on the tension that was forming.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:42 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 1 2013, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think people are being too mean now. confused.gif

That tends to happen when people can't give a good argument. Can't blame them. It's not their fault their mother did all types of drugs when she was pregnant with them. xD




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