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[Shadow1275]

Well of course. I already acknowledge that it could mean anything and perhaps just feeling Hashirama's chakra could only mean that he's that strong but who knows. Anyway, yeah, that's a problem isn't it for Kakashi. I don't even know if there's even a fight to begin with. Maybe they will fight, maybe they will do something else. I don't know because remember, Kakashi went straight for attack and Obito was like "Oh!" as in not going to fight. It's why this chapter happened in the first place. So yeah, next chapter, we'll see. As for Sasuke, well I feel like they need to confront each other because they're Uchiha and the feud was setup since the time Kyuubi mentioned him. I don't trust the situation because one question is after taking out the enemy of an enemy, what's next. Again, it feels easy...

Well 629 was sketchy to begin with. First, Kakashi has MS activated but then it turns into regular. Than Obito runs onto Kakashi's Raikiri and turns into Rin so it's obviously genjutsu. My guess though is that the next chapter is either going to be Madara tearing the alliance a new one or the new Kages either arriving on the scene or shown alive. I don't think we will see Sas-ga ahem Sasuke or the Taka/Kage/Orochimaru love train arrive for another couple chapters.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well 629 was sketchy to begin with. First, Kakashi has MS activated but then it turns into regular. Than Obito runs onto Kakashi's Raikiri and turns into Rin so it's obviously genjutsu. My guess though is that the next chapter is either going to be Madara tearing the alliance a new one or the new Kages either arriving on the scene or shown alive. I don't think we will see Sas-ga ahem Sasuke or the Taka/Kage/Orochimaru love train arrive for another couple chapters.

So what do you think how it will go for Kakashi/Obito then?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

An idea that originally Madara came up with it seems. Also the idea that 2 shinobi can comunicate with one another when they are fighting I think it also originated from Hashirama's and Madara's fighting. As for the chaos no. Thou it's possible that Madara and Obito have manipulated the world in starting wars if the y were left undisturbed they would have destroyed the world and peace would have been achieved. Nagato's solution to peace was also a malefic one but still almost reachable if not for Naruto. But Madara and Obito's actions eventually pushed the villages to unite against them, and the fact that they were shinobi with no allegiance but their own the world could unite easily to fight them. But what happens after the alliance wins. It's a temporary peace right now and old grudges or interests will emerge that will plunge the world in conflict again.

Yep, but then he discarded it after the death of his brother, just like many others villains, like Nagato who dropped Yahiko/Jiraiya's dream, Obito who dropped his dream to become hokage and so on...

[Shadow1275]

So what do you think how it will go for Kakashi/Obito then?

I think that they will struggle and Kakashi will gain the upper hand forcing Obito to teleport back to the real world, which would allow for him to be TNJ by Naruto or allow a meeting with Minato.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think that they will struggle and Kakashi will gain the upper hand forcing Obito to teleport back to the real world, which would allow for him to be TNJ by Naruto or allow a meeting with Minato.

Yes could be a good set-up but i feel that Obito wanted to teleport Kakashi there for a reason.

[StriderC]

I'm a ShadowxSaku shipper, It's the most logical pairing. Well next to NS of course

@NaruSaku4Life

I agree, though Madara feeling Hashirama could mean anything. Because Sasuke felt Naruto's power when he was all the way in Konoha. Plus Obito isn't going to listen to Kakashi because he sees kakashi as "fake". Though I would still question Sasuke's and especially Orochimaru's motives. Who's to say Madara won't be able to manipulate Sasuke?

LIESSSSSSSSSS. LOL

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yes could be a good set-up but i feel that Obito wanted to teleport Kakashi there for a reason.

Wasn't it just to prevent Kamui on Juubi or am I missing something?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Wasn't it just to prevent Kamui on Juubi or am I missing something?

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"Looks like you were waiting for it. But i was too." ( Unless the translation is wrong if it is then i'm sorry).
I believe he wants to speak with Kakashi and will have the biggest role on TNJ Obito while Naruto does the finishing blow forgiving him and showing that he is capable of surpassing his past self.
it's even reasonable due to the fact that Naruto doesnt know Obito, Obito never talked about his past to Naruto and i dont think he's going to talk about it with him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 10:00 PM.

[Arachnia]

Yeah, but that's what I mean. Imagine he get TnJ by Kakashi. They go back to the battlefield, Naruto sees them, Obito just do that revival thing, then he dies. The only thing Naruto probably think is what the hell just happened. It feels odd. I don't know, maybe I should just wait for next chapter. For the record, all characters so far got their payback, so Naruto needs to get one. How all this goes down...

Oke here is what i think will happen nxt chapter is battlefield again or maby 2 more Obito chapters and then battlefield, and you see swirling eye portal and only obito comes out of it then its Naruto obito again.
and for the reader it will be horrible because you will find out a view chapters later what would have happend too kakashi dead or alive my gess alive but out of it for the time being.

[TouKen4Life3g]

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"Looks like you were waiting for it. But i was too." ( Unless the translation is wrong if it is then i'm sorry).
I believe he wants to speak with Kakashi and will have the biggest role on TNJ Obito while Naruto does the finishing blow forgiving him and showing that he is capable of surpassing his past self.
it's even reasonable due to the fact that Naruto doesnt know Obito, Obito never talked about his past to Naruto and i dont think he's going to talk about it with him.

Well, Kakashi is about the past, but Obito talks about both. The past was addressed, but who's going to tell him about the future. That was Nagato fighting about before, how things will be the same if you don't take action in a destruction way because in the past, it didn't work out well. I just can't see him being convinced by saying, "Oh, Rin loved you btw." It will help to certain extent, but it's too late, so what about the future? Convince him that they don't need moon eye plan is what I'm trying to say. Naruto and Obito have started their feud of what's truly right. Kakashi can only ask why.

Oke here is what i think will happen nxt chapter is battlefield again or maby 2 more Obito chapters and then battlefield, and you see swirling eye portal and only obito comes out of it then its Naruto obito again.
and for the reader it will be horrible because you will find out a view chapters later what would have happend too kakashi dead or alive my gess alive but out of it for the time being.

That could work. Hm, wonder why Obito don't convince Kakashi to join him. I guess maybe because this is the guy that killed Rin, so he won't allow it. I don't know, shouldn't it matter if you take him to moon eye plan anyway? Everyone will be in matrix.

[bthug]

He says that she was the girl that he liked a lot( on chapter 3) but then he uses the word "love" on the same chapter on the bench scene.
different than the others, the fact that Naruto is the main character and kishimoto showed how he fell in love with her on-screen.

This should pretty much seal everything up? I mean I don't wanna be apart of a world where Hinatas priority is put above THE MAIN CHARACTER (and eventually the main female)

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, Kakashi is about the past, but Obito talks about both. The past was addressed, but who's going to tell him about the future. That was Nagato fighting about before, how things will be the same if you don't take action in a destruction way because in the past, it didn't work out well. I just can't see him being convinced by saying, "Oh, Rin loved you btw." It will help to certain extent, but it's too late, so what about the future? Convince him that they don't need moon eye plan is what I'm trying to say. Naruto and Obito have started their feud of what's truly right. Kakashi can only ask why.

Yes, Naruto could help him but Obito is with the nonsense about fakes, saying Rin loved you could make him think twice about this mindset whatesover, i feel that it's unpredictable because Nagato told him about his past that he was also seeking vengeance, Naruto didnt had a response to all that, he still hated Nagato and could not forgive him after all he've done, but decided to not kill him refusing to join the whole circle of hatred, Naruto reminded him about who he was, Obito knows that Naruto is like him but he's so entitled to his own personal opinion that Naruto is incapable of reaching him unless if Kakashi does break the hardest part which is the mindset about fakes or whatever.


Naruto says that the people who die are only alive if you keep them on your heart but Obito basically replied saying that he doesnt have a heart but it's real that he doesn't have a heart? Rin loving him could make him think twice.
Metaphorically speaking off, fulfilling the moon's eye plan could "bring his heart back".
It's really complicated i dont have any kind of scenario but i believe Kakashi will play a major role(more than Naruto) on TNJ Obito.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 10:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yes, Naruto could help him but Obito is with the nonsense about fakes, saying Rin loved you could make him think twice about this mindset whatesover, i feel that it's unpredictable because Nagato told him about his past that he was also seeking vengeance, Naruto didnt had a response to all that, he still hated Nagato and could not forgive him after all he've done, but decided to not kill him refusing to join the whole circle of hatred, Naruto reminded him about who he was, Obito knows that Naruto is like him but he's so entitled to his own personal opinion that Naruto is incapable of reaching him unless if Kakashi does break the hardest part which is the mindset about fakes or whatever.


Naruto says that the people who die are only alive if you keep them on your heart but Obito basically replied saying that he doesnt have a heart but it's real that he doesn't have a heart? Rin loving him could make him think twice.
it's too difficult to predict your prediction also makes sense.

I feel like Kakashi and Naruto got to work together when it comes to talking to some senses to Obito. Yes, Naruto doesn't know Obito, but perhaps Kakashi is gaining new info to the point he may know what to do. Well, like I always say, next chapter should be clarifying some points.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I feel like Kakashi and Naruto got to work together when it comes to talking to some senses to Obito. Yes, Naruto doesn't know Obito, but perhaps Kakashi is gaining new info to the point he may know what to do. Well, like I always say, next chapter should be clarifying some points.

Yes i'm waiting to see how Kakashi will break Obito's wall which is his claim that he doesnt have a heart because he used that to reject all Naruto's claims, making Naruto unreachable.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 10:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yes i'm waiting to see how Kakashi will break Obito's wall which is his claim that he doesnt have a heart because he used that to reject all Naruto's claims, making Naruto unreachable.

Btw, is he done trying to convince Naruto that he's right and what not? I feel like he still wants to prove it as he could be cocky of never being talk into.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Btw, is he done trying to convince Naruto that he's right and what not? I feel like he still wants to prove it as he could be cocky of never being talk into.

He said to Kakashi it all, he wanted to listen to what Naruto wanted to say and completely denies it, this whole "not having a heart" became a wall to him, Naruto cant reach him unless Kakashi tear it down.
Most importantly he wanted to fight with Kakashi.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 11:25 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He said to Kakashi it all, he wanted to listen to what Naruto wanted to say and completely denies it, this whole "not having a heart" became a wall to him, Naruto cant reach him unless Kakashi tear it down.
Most importantly he wanted to fight with Kakashi.

Don't remember him saying he wants to fight him, but something got to come out of this. Again, odd if he come back to battlefield all good. Personally, I want Naruto to defeat him. I know Kakashi is connected to Obito, but it just began in this arc. It's as if to say, "Hey, I stole your boss battle, you don't mind, right?" Minato would be like "Well, Kakashi took care of it, so eh, you didn't do it." I don't know, the way it was hyped was made for Naruto. Not saying Kakashi got nothing to do with this but he really be a supporter in this case. That's just me because I still feel like Obito can dominate him if he keeps doing his routine.

[kidNinja]

What does TNJ stand for?

[merryGOflava]

NaruSaku is taking too long to become canon.

not saying it won't.....but dang...can it just happen already.......

some things are too rushed...but narusaku is too slow XD....

I seriously feel like taking a 3 week break from naruto.......

I feel like asking someone if they could just PM me if narusaku happens....

[Inferno180]

What does TNJ stand for?

Talk no jutsu, its basically any situation during a fight between 2 people with their dialogue and exchange of ideals that causes some change or event in the story.

Among some of the notable ones are Naruto TNJ to Nagato and Gaara, Obito to Sasuke after Itachi's death, and so on.