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#19541 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:52 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 12 2013, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but that's what I mean. Imagine he get TnJ by Kakashi. They go back to the battlefield, Naruto sees them, Obito just do that revival thing, then he dies. The only thing Naruto probably think is what the hell just happened. It feels odd. I don't know, maybe I should just wait for next chapter. For the record, all characters so far got their payback, so Naruto needs to get one. How all this goes down...

Yep would feel awkward so i believe that the last part will be Naruto forgiving him.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ May 12 2013, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha, of course, but wouldn't it be awesome if she actually said it to Naruto while he's looking at the alliance fight? cool.gif

And agreed! I think it's almost a given she'll have solo moments when Sasuke comes back into the picture. Hopefully he won't have her just standing looking at her team fight since you know... she sort of dislikes being behind them. LOL Forest of Death reference. tongue.gif

Sure it would be awesome XD. Though, I think that Sakura has something like that to say to Naruto at anytime in the upcoming chapters since the battle is far from over. So, she still can say, literally, something like that to him XD

I think if she'll have her role just in healing then she won't interfere and cause she's a medic nin. Unless, like we all know, Sakura for some reason jumps in and fight. I also think that a relative moment will occur regarding her, Minato and Naruto like something related to Sakura and Kushina or something. Minato is there, so Kishi can make the opportunity for him to meet Sakura or notice something from her.

Edited by T XD, 12 May 2013 - 06:56 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 12 2013, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep would feel awkward so i believe that the last part will be Naruto forgiving him.

But how? If Kakashi/Obito takes the whole volume, only for Obito never confront Naruto again, that will be really weak. Hell, even Gai got his deed done with Kisame, rather Bee ending him, which luckily it didn't because it was weak. Sometimes, I feel like Kakashi can't TnJ on Obito. In fact, who else did it besides Naruto? Can anyone tell me?

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 12 2013, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But how? If Kakashi/Obito takes the whole volume, only for Obito never confront Naruto again, that will be really weak. Hell, even Gai got his deed done with Kisame, rather Bee ending him, which luckily it didn't because it was weak. Sometimes, I feel like Kakashi can't TnJ on Obito. In fact, who else did it besides Naruto? Can anyone tell me?

Naruto will definitely TnJ on Obito and Kakashi will have some things to say to Obito too. Kakashi won't just stop at this talk that they just had. I see, at least, Kakashi interfering again when Obito is about to die.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 12 2013, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But how? If Kakashi/Obito takes the whole volume, only for Obito never confront Naruto again, that will be really weak. Hell, even Gai got his deed done with Kisame, rather Bee ending him, which luckily it didn't because it was weak. Sometimes, I feel like Kakashi can't TnJ on Obito. In fact, who else did it besides Naruto? Can anyone tell me?

Obito will have to come back or he dies with Kakashi.
With Obito coming back changed Naruto he may have a conversation with Naruto and there Naruto might says he forgive him and so on...
it's just a theory btw i never hit the spot...
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ May 12 2013, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Naruto will TnJ to Obito and Kakashi will have say some things too to Obito. Kakashi won't just stop at this talk that they just had. I see, at least, Kakashi interfering again when Obito is about to die.

I think Kakashi will have the last word to say, but the converting part goes to Naruto. I mean think about it, Obito accepts the world as fake, so how in the world telling him about Rin will do any good. What about the future? Kakashi is not a guy to talk about that. Naruto is. Obito still don't understand why Pain changed by Naruto as well as being betrayed, so soon he will know that. I don't know, but I rather have Naruto to close him. Kakashi is about the past who don't know if the future is bright for him while Naruto is about future and change for the best.

Yes, I can be wrong too, but I just hope it works out good enough.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 12 May 2013 - 07:05 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:04 PM

I seriously think that NaruSaku has made enough of a presence is other things besides the manga itself.

Anyways, when it comes to kakashi's statements to Rin how he is not worthy of her because he was going to abandon her, its things like that I see the opposite being a good thing for NaruSaku. Again, the same reason why Tsunade lost her loves (brother and Dan) and how she was upset with Jiraya dying just like Rin was thinking of Obito after his assumed death.

Again, its basically just what failed in the past and lead to darker fates of the sannin and team minato should be the opposite for team 7. Sakura turning to and loving Naruto is part of breaking that cycle. We know Naruto breaks cycles so why should Naruto fail again like his predecessors in the girl department yet still succeed in everything else?

I'd still get a laugh at if Naruto gets the rinnegan, many fans would say Oh Oh Rinnegan! This means NH is canon! They both have DOUJUTSU! NH IS CANON!
again, ignoring the fact that the byaukgan is not important. If Obito and Madara didn't give a *hit about the Byaukgan, its not important to the story.

NaruSaku has so much more to come, its not even funny, there is future interaction to be had between them. Yet people constantly say its dead. I laugh at this because so many who claim this, we still see notion after notion and find reason after reason for Naruto to love Sakura. The real flaw is the arguments people make against it, there are so many things we can counterargue its not even funny, and its all due to two very simple facts, NS is the most reoccurring and developed, and the second reason is how these oppositing claims have conflicts with the story due to character logic and story consistency. NS is too enjoyable sometimes. cool.gif

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 12 2013, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Kakashi will have the last word to say, but the converting part goes to Naruto. I mean think about it, Obito accepts the world as fake, so how in the world telling him about Rin will do any good. What about the future? Kakashi is not a guy to talk about that. Naruto is. Obito still don't understand why Pain changed by Naruto as well as being betrayed, so soon he will know that. I don't know, but I rather have Naruto to close him. Kakashi is about the past who don't know if the future is bright for him while Naruto is about future and change for the best.

Yes, I can be wrong too, but I just hope it works out good enough.

I think the same way here. Naruto will be the one to change Obito and Kakashi will have something to say at the end. It fits for them.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ May 12 2013, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the same way here. Naruto will be the one to change Obito and Kakashi will have something to say at the end. It fits for them.

I guess we have to wait. We'll see.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 12 2013, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Kakashi will have the last word to say, but the converting part goes to Naruto. I mean think about it, Obito accepts the world as fake, so how in the world telling him about Rin will do any good. What about the future? Kakashi is not a guy to talk about that. Naruto is. Obito still don't understand why Pain changed by Naruto as well as being betrayed, so soon he will know that. I don't know, but I rather have Naruto to close him. Kakashi is about the past who don't know if the future is bright for him while Naruto is about future and change for the best.

Yes, I can be wrong too, but I just hope it works out good enough.


Well I felt that the Kakashi vs Obito won't really have any effect or just make Obito more reckless. Anyway Obito established some form of feud with Naruto. He killed a comrade, in the past was responsible with the death of his parents and than there's the possibility that he will try to kill Sakura.
Regarding Rin there's a possibility that more will be revealed regarding her, either by Kakashi or by Minato but right now Kakashi really is shaken by Obito's reveal so not sure about this.
Anyway the things go I think we will have a NS development moment but I fear it will also have the bad habit of being interrupted by someone.



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ May 12 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I felt that the Kakashi vs Obito won't really have any effect or just make Obito more reckless. Anyway Obito established some form of feud with Naruto. He killed a comrade, in the past was responsible with the death of his parents and than there's the possibility that he will try to kill Sakura.
Regarding Rin there's a possibility that more will be revealed regarding her, either by Kakashi or by Minato but right now Kakashi really is shaken by Obito's reveal so not sure about this.
Anyway the things go I think we will have a NS development moment but I fear it will also have the bad habit of being interrupted by someone.

It all depends on the next move on the next chapter. I don't know if Minato will get any part of this. I can only see him seeing his body and probably ask Naruto or Kakashi that he was the one behind the mask. When you think about it, Minato is being dismissed from this whole conversation. I just hope it's satisfying and not dodging stuff because it's obvious, just do it.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 12 2013, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It all depends on the next move on the next chapter. I don't know if Minato will get any part of this. I can only see him seeing his body and probably ask Naruto or Kakashi that he was the one behind the mask. When you think about it, Minato is being dismissed from this whole conversation. I just hope it's satisfying and not dodging stuff because it's obvious, just do it.

Well what if Minato were to teleport to the dimension where Kakashi is? Kakashi was a student of Minato's and he was given one of Minato's special kunai as a gift. I wonder if Kakashi hung on to it?

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ May 12 2013, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well what if Minato were to teleport to the dimension where Kakashi is? Kakashi was a student of Minato's and he was given one of Minato's special kunai as a gift. I wonder if Kakashi hung on to it?

I don't know. It could happen but I don't know. I think the fact Madara sensed Hashirama, that would mean they're going there by foot. Then again, maybe his presence is very strong. I don't know. I'm going back to waiting.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 12 2013, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It all depends on the next move on the next chapter. I don't know if Minato will get any part of this. I can only see him seeing his body and probably ask Naruto or Kakashi that he was the one behind the mask. When you think about it, Minato is being dismissed from this whole conversation. I just hope it's satisfying and not dodging stuff because it's obvious, just do it.


Yeah but personally it feels odd that Minato won't have anything to say to Obito and ofc try to TNJ him too. As it happens elements that we know Naruto will have to fight against keep appearing in places where he isn't there physically. The turn of events regarding Madara and Hashirama, now Obito stating that he blames the shinobi system for Rin's death. This shinobi system is perceived as the real villain and end boss if you will. Yet Naruto is remarkably left almost oblivious to it.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ May 12 2013, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well what if Minato were to teleport to the dimension where Kakashi is? Kakashi was a student of Minato's and he was given one of Minato's special kunai as a gift. I wonder if Kakashi hung on to it?


A bit off topic but whats up with shipping yourself with sakura in that signature? happy.gif



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ May 12 2013, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but personally it feels odd that Minato won't have anything to say to Obito and ofc try to TNJ him too. As it happens elements that we know Naruto will have to fight against keep appearing in places where he isn't there physically. The turn of events regarding Madara and Hashirama, now Obito stating that he blames the shinobi system for Rin's death. This shinobi system is perceived as the real villain and end boss if you will. Yet Naruto is remarkably left almost oblivious to it.

Because he believes that one day people would understand each other, did you perceived that the cause of all the chaos were people who wanted to change it, Madara, Obito all of those guys wanted to change the world and ended up bringing more chaos and problems than solutions. Also like you pointed out Naruto is being oblivious to it, i dont see him talking about bringing peace maybe it will be brought back when Sasuke arrives.
Maybe the fact that the alliance will dissolve after the war.
QUOTE (Inferno180 @ May 12 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I seriously think that NaruSaku has made enough of a presence is other things besides the manga itself.

Anyways, when it comes to kakashi's statements to Rin how he is not worthy of her because he was going to abandon her, its things like that I see the opposite being a good thing for NaruSaku. Again, the same reason why Tsunade lost her loves (brother and Dan) and how she was upset with Jiraya dying just like Rin was thinking of Obito after his assumed death.

Again, its basically just what failed in the past and lead to darker fates of the sannin and team minato should be the opposite for team 7. Sakura turning to and loving Naruto is part of breaking that cycle. We know Naruto breaks cycles so why should Naruto fail again like his predecessors in the girl department yet still succeed in everything else?

I'd still get a laugh at if Naruto gets the rinnegan, many fans would say Oh Oh Rinnegan! This means NH is canon! They both have DOUJUTSU! NH IS CANON!
again, ignoring the fact that the byaukgan is not important. If Obito and Madara didn't give a *hit about the Byaukgan, its not important to the story.

NaruSaku has so much more to come, its not even funny, there is future interaction to be had between them. Yet people constantly say its dead. I laugh at this because so many who claim this, we still see notion after notion and find reason after reason for Naruto to love Sakura. The real flaw is the arguments people make against it, there are so many things we can counterargue its not even funny, and its all due to two very simple facts, NS is the most reoccurring and developed, and the second reason is how these oppositing claims have conflicts with the story due to character logic and story consistency. NS is too enjoyable sometimes. cool.gif

I too agree with you but however i dont see as it, it wasnt just that, because if only was that there would be any reason for Kakashi to tell her about Obito's feelings for her, i felt that the combination of this phrase and Kakashi telling her about Obito's feelings pratically is like "you should not love me Rin", it was more than a simple rejection but also a lesson.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ May 12 2013, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but personally it feels odd that Minato won't have anything to say to Obito and ofc try to TNJ him too. As it happens elements that we know Naruto will have to fight against keep appearing in places where he isn't there physically. The turn of events regarding Madara and Hashirama, now Obito stating that he blames the shinobi system for Rin's death. This shinobi system is perceived as the real villain and end boss if you will. Yet Naruto is remarkably left almost oblivious to it.

Sounds like MGS4. Anyway, I still think Naruto should take care of Obito overall. Kakashi is about past and Naruto is about future. I mean he was frozen when Obito was revealed to be the mastermind (well lesser of the two). I just hope everything is settled right.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (rikakim94 @ May 12 2013, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bit off topic but whats up with shipping yourself with sakura in that signature? happy.gif

I'm a ShadowxSaku shipper, It's the most logical pairing. a_thumbs.gif Well next to NS of course sweatdrop.gif

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I agree, though Madara feeling Hashirama could mean anything. Because Sasuke felt Naruto's power when he was all the way in Konoha. Plus Obito isn't going to listen to Kakashi because he sees kakashi as "fake". Though I would still question Sasuke's and especially Orochimaru's motives. Who's to say Madara won't be able to manipulate Sasuke?

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 12 2013, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because he believes that one day people would understand each other, did you perceived that the cause of all the chaos were people who wanted to change it, Madara, Obito all of those guys wanted to change the world and ended up bringing more chaos and problems than solutions. Also like you pointed out Naruto is being oblivious to it, i dont see him talking about bringing peace maybe it will be brought back when Sasuke arrives.
Maybe the fact that the alliance will dissolve after the war.


An idea that originally Madara came up with it seems. Also the idea that 2 shinobi can comunicate with one another when they are fighting I think it also originated from Hashirama's and Madara's fighting. As for the chaos no. Thou it's possible that Madara and Obito have manipulated the world in starting wars if the y were left undisturbed they would have destroyed the world and peace would have been achieved. Nagato's solution to peace was also a malefic one but still almost reachable if not for Naruto. But Madara and Obito's actions eventually pushed the villages to unite against them, and the fact that they were shinobi with no allegiance but their own the world could unite easily to fight them. But what happens after the alliance wins. It's a temporary peace right now and old grudges or interests will emerge that will plunge the world in conflict again.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ May 12 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a ShadowxSaku shipper, It's the most logical pairing. a_thumbs.gif Well next to NS of course sweatdrop.gif

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I agree, though Madara feeling Hashirama could mean anything. Because Sasuke felt Naruto's power when he was all the way in Konoha. Plus Obito isn't going to listen to Kakashi because he sees kakashi as "fake". Though I would still question Sasuke's and especially Orochimaru's motives. Who's to say Madara won't be able to manipulate Sasuke?

Well of course. I already acknowledge that it could mean anything and perhaps just feeling Hashirama's chakra could only mean that he's that strong but who knows. Anyway, yeah, that's a problem isn't it for Kakashi. I don't even know if there's even a fight to begin with. Maybe they will fight, maybe they will do something else. I don't know because remember, Kakashi went straight for attack and Obito was like "Oh!" as in not going to fight. It's why this chapter happened in the first place. So yeah, next chapter, we'll see. As for Sasuke, well I feel like they need to confront each other because they're Uchiha and the feud was setup since the time Kyuubi mentioned him. I don't trust the situation because one question is after taking out the enemy of an enemy, what's next. Again, it feels easy...




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