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[Quinny52]

I'm bored so I thought of a weird ability Naruto may be able to create:

Lightning-Rasengan.

While thinking about superhero powers I was looking into elemental powers (Fire, wind, water, etc.) I was thinking about Naruto's affinity to wind. Now wind can cause friction in the atmosphere and cause static lightning and electricity. Kasuma from Kaze No Stigma who is also a wind mage was able to do this by using the wind to create it even with precision. So it is quite possible Naruto can do this too. This would be different from Lightning release as this would be more natural lightning rather than chakra generated. Imagine a 1.12 Gigawatt Rasengan hitting you? You'll be knocked back to last week. XD.

Of course this is all theory as even lightning works at a weird principle. (I am not sure how lightning is strongest against ground yet in other shows like Pokemon, ground was the opposite of lightning and was useless against ground pokemon. That Sasuke thing against Deidara comes to mind.)

He probably can't or ever will happen, but saying it might be a possible thing he could do.

1.2 Gigawatts!?

Forget last week, that'll send 'em back to 1955! XD

But yeah, seeing Naruto use something OTHER THAN a shadow clone or Rasengan variant would be cool, and using wind to create natural lightning would probably cement him as the most powerful wind user ever (sans the So6P).

I'm hoping he learns Hiraishin and its variants at some point, because once (when I was pondering how a final battle with Sasuke would play out) I imagined him using it to teleport Sasuke's Kirin, throwing the kunai towards the latter, Sasuke deflects it, but the portal appears behind or above him, and Kirin strikes. It'd make for a great cliffhangar to a chapter.

Edited by Quinny52, 12 May 2013 - 08:06 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You're forgetting that it wasn't an easy decision for Kakashi to abandon her. When confronted by Obito, look at his face in this panel http://www.mangapand...hapter-241.html He is doubting his decision.

http://www.mangapand...hapter-241.html
http://www.onemanga....1/241/om016.jpg
He even gets punched on the face by Obito.

Here she trys to tell Kakashi about her feelings for him, but she only says feelings. not love http://www.onemanga....o_manga/244/13/

I dont get what are you trying to imply here, because it's love basically, her feelings for him romantically speaking off showed thousand of times on this mini-arc and recently, Kakashi on the same panel rejected her for three reasons : Obito, doenst have feelings for her and his attitude to abandon her betraying her trust.
It's basically the stuff that i was saying since the begining, and this panel proved it.
I' not saying you're wrong or whatever i just dont agree with the fact he rejected her because the same mindset as Naruto, Kakashi didnt loved Rin, and there was Obito, who he made the promise to protect her.
I'm going to post an example.

Naruto : I dont deserve you Sakura i could not keep our promise.
Sakura : ( she would surely reply ) You was at my side and so on...(because the promise is Sakura's fault)

Kakashi : I was once a kind of trash that would abandon you.
Rin : ( she cant reply to this) because in short it's ( you should not be in love with me because i was a kind of trash who would abandon you on meanwhile Obito like you, loved you and for him you was the most important person on the world). he did that with the obvious intention for her to move on, in contrast with Naruto's mindset. it's basically the same message as 540, you should not be in love with someome who's not a great guy, you should not be in love with a trash, you should not be in love with a guy who tried to kill you, you should not be in love with someome who tried to abandon you and so on...

this is what i was saying since the begining and this is what make the basis of my theory that Rin didnt loved Kakashi anymore.

Sasuke clearly smiles when he rejects Sakura, saying that she is annoying. There is no conflict in what his feelings are, during her confession, during the first reunion when he clearly states that he feels nothing for her, or the second reunion where he tries to kill her.

He even kills a former comrade in Karin, and then feels next to nothing. Which is why Naruto better represents Kakashi.

As for Sakura's mindset, she didn't know that Sasuke would try to kill her but she knew that he was evil and had to be stopped. She couldn't do it because she was still in love with part 1 Sasuke. There she realizes that he has changed. Though she must have expected some sort of trouble, and to be fair this assassination plot wasn't exactly planned out well.

What confuses me is how does this relate to Rin's death at all?????

Rin knew that Kakashi would never kill her on purpose, hell he even refuses to kill her here http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/629/18

This part i agree with you, Kakashi on the present is the redeemed Kakashi i'm speaking of the the Kakashi of the past.
Now as for the rest.
Sakura thought Sasuke wasnt capable of killing her because of her flashback of the "thank you" and she thought he cared about her, but she was wrong he didnt cared, then she was obviously going to die, it does relate with him, she thought Kakashi would save her, that he cared about her, and he wasnt going to save her, he was going to leave her behind and proceed with the mission if wasnt Obito who punched him on the face and give him the lesson that the ones who abandon their friends are worse than trash.

I agree with the fact that the assassination plot wasnt planned out well, i felt that this reason is due to her selfishness when it comes to Sasuke, the rest i agree but the point where is disagre is just with the fact that i dont agree that Kakashi rejected Rin with the same reasons as Naruto.

This is an interesting topic, What would Naruto's second element be. A lot of people claim that it's water because of the title Shippuden.

@Donkun

Thanks. Personally I feel that Naruto resembles Kakashi more than anyone else resembles Kakashi. But you're right, most of the time he just claims that you're posts are wrong instead of proving you're wrong. It's a pattern that I've noticed.

I'm saying that Kakashi rejected her for three reasons you implies that he rejected Rin for the same reason as Naruto, say that we are saying the same thing.

I felt more as an error of interpretation from both sides mostly mine.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 11:48 AM.

[HauntedCake]

Maybe Sasuke will try to use Sakura feeling for him against naruto, manipulating her so to speak. He will pretend to reciporate her feelings of love maybe??

[StrikerTheNoble]

Maybe Sasuke will try to use Sakura feeling for him against naruto, manipulating her so to speak. He will pretend to reciporate her feelings of love maybe??

Thats a valid theory. Its in character and its an effective mindkitten. I actually hope he does it so Sakura can beat the crap out of him when she finds out.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Thats a valid theory. Its in character and its an effective mindkitten. I actually hope he does it so Sakura can beat the crap out of him when she finds out.

Would not that prove that she still loves him?
and i also think it's ooc because Sasuke is not the type who does dirt stuff to win a battle, the promise he did to Naruto shows that he does make value of his words.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 12:23 PM.

[T XD]

Wait wait wait....hold up.....I was just in a discussion with someone about Naruto and they gave me this:



.....what? I don't remember any here talk about Sakura's mother at all.

Sakura's mother ?!!!

Lol. This made me laugh XD

I smell trolling and he/she doesn't seem a neutral fan. Unless he/she provides a source which isn't based on just a few persons.

Maybe Sasuke will try to use Sakura feeling for him against naruto, manipulating her so to speak. He will pretend to reciporate her feelings of love maybe??

It's like Sakura will fall easily into his trap especially doing something bad for Naruto. This isn't an easy thing. Sakura still have leftovers feelings for him, but she's not blind by them.

Edited by T XD, 12 May 2013 - 01:35 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sakura's mother ?!!!

Lol. This made me laugh XD

I smell trolling and he doesn't seem a neutral fan. Unless he provides a source which isn't based on just a few persons.

The part about sakura's mother made me laugh on the movie Sakura was complaining about how her mother was bossing her around and her father always at her mother's side and etc... but she's does seems to forget she does the same with Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 01:37 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

Exactly. The others are in a place where it's not snowing, be it Konoha or Kiri yet, where Naruto is, snows. Coincidence much? Not to mention it is said that it's the season bringing people together, closer because of the cold weather meaning, Naruto is bringing Sakura more close to him. No wonder Kishi chose to say close...

Oohhh the feels

Back to reading that tumblr post you posted.....

[StriderC]

It's like Sakura will fall easily into his trap especially doing something bad for Naruto. This isn't an easy thing. Sakura still have leftovers feelings for him, but she's not blind by them.

Hmmmm.... I'm not sure. Sasuke has changed also just like Sakura and Naruto. They've all matured a bit. If Sasuke is "good" when he gets back, I could see him treating them fairly well for the most part. It'll be odd though seeing this though considering Naruto didn't have a part in it at all. Would he be happy or bummed that HE didn't save Sasuke? I'm certain Sakura's not going back to her old ways but I'm anxious to see how she'll react because I can't even peg it. LOL

[redragon88]

- So we have Konohamaru teasing Naruto and Sakura of being together

- Gamakichi later implies Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend

- Ramen guy in a filler teases Naruto about being on a date with Sakura

- Sai with his vague comments

- Yamato with his unfinished sentence

- The entire village later just stares and blushes as Naruto and Sakura have a romantic hug (even Hinata is smiling)

- Kushina then reveals she wants Naruto to be with someone like her

- Kushina once again teases Naruto in the movie, and Minato just assumes that Naruto could only be angry if he fights with Sakura

- AU Ino hinting in the Drama CD that Sakura likes Menma/Naruto with Sakura hesitating for a second when asked if she really doesn't like him

Don't know about the rest of you but I find it hard to believe that NaruSaku was just a red herring when everyone and their mother needs to have an opinion/reaction about their growing relationship.

[Codus N]

1.2 Gigawatts!?

Forget last week, that'll send 'em back to 1955! XD

I'm hoping he learns Hiraishin and its variants at some point, because once (when I was pondering how a final battle with Sasuke would play out) I imagined him using it to teleport Sasuke's Kirin, throwing the kunai towards the latter, Sasuke deflects it, but the portal appears behind or above him, and Kirin strikes. It'd make for a great cliffhangar to a chapter.

With Minato being revived, I actually am hoping for this to happen. Or, at the very least, teach him how to better control his speed and hone his reflexes. Speed-wise, he's faster than both Minato (shunshin) and Raikage combined. But if we're talking reflexes, he's still got a long way to go before he can reach those two.

[Canadian_DJ]

- So we have Konohamaru teasing Naruto and Sakura of being together

- Gamakichi later implies Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend

- Ramen guy in a filler teases Naruto about being on a date with Sakura

- Sai with his vague comments

- Yamato with his unfinished sentence

- The entire village later just stares and blushes as Naruto and Sakura have a romantic hug (even Hinata is smiling)

- Kushina then reveals she wants Naruto to be with someone like her

- Kushina once again teases Naruto in the movie, and Minato just assumes that Naruto could only be angry if he fights with Sakura

- AU Ino hinting in the Drama CD that Sakura likes Menma/Naruto with Sakura hesitating for a second when asked if she really doesn't like him

Don't know about the rest of you but I find it hard to believe that NaruSaku was just a red herring when everyone and their mother needs to have an opinion/reaction about their growing relationship.

Wow..narusaku a red herring?....theres BS like that floating around? Why am I not surprised...well, when narusaku is officially canon dont say we-or kishi didnt warn them...

[PhenixElite]

- So we have Konohamaru teasing Naruto and Sakura of being together

- Gamakichi later implies Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend

- Ramen guy in a filler teases Naruto about being on a date with Sakura

- Sai with his vague comments

- Yamato with his unfinished sentence

- The entire village later just stares and blushes as Naruto and Sakura have a romantic hug (even Hinata is smiling)

- Kushina then reveals she wants Naruto to be with someone like her

- Kushina once again teases Naruto in the movie, and Minato just assumes that Naruto could only be angry if he fights with Sakura

- AU Ino hinting in the Drama CD that Sakura likes Menma/Naruto with Sakura hesitating for a second when asked if she really doesn't like him

Don't know about the rest of you but I find it hard to believe that NaruSaku was just a red herring when everyone and their mother needs to have an opinion/reaction about their growing relationship.

Pfff, yeah the redherring argument only comes from desperate fans who dont have any more arguments left to backup their opinions.
A highly focused and developed paring since the beginning cant be a red herring.

[bthug]

In the first episode/chapter, what was the exact wording of how Naruto feels about Sakura?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

In the first episode/chapter, what was the exact wording of how Naruto feels about Sakura?

He says that she was the girl that he liked a lot( on chapter 3) but then he uses the word "love" on the same chapter on the bench scene.
different than the others, the fact that Naruto is the main character and kishimoto showed how he fell in love with her on-screen.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 May 2013 - 05:05 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He says that she was the girl that he liked a lot but then he uses the word "love" on chapter 3.
different than the others, the fact that Naruto is the main character and kishimoto showed how he fell in love with her on-screen.

I can't help but wanting to know what makes him like her a lot before truly in love. It may or may not get an answer in the same chapter, but it will be neat if there's a flashback that got him in the first place. Oh well, a man can dream.

[StrikerTheNoble]

I can't help but wanting to know what makes him like her a lot before truly in love. It may or may not get an answer in the same chapter, but it will be neat if there's a flashback that got him in the first place. Oh well, a man can dream.

What else? She was cute. No matter how much you don`t judge a book by its cover you can`t simply ignore the cover. Its whats attracts the reader to read the book in the first place.

[Chatte]

Dunno why I have the feeling this will be brought-up when Naruto will TNJ on Obito... And explain him how he loves Sakura, how he got in love with her and all those stuff because I am sure Rin's situation will be brought-up from the love interest point of view, not as it was like now, comrade. Funny how NH interaction happened when Rin was being talked as a comrade and NS starts interaction when Rin is talked as in love interest. Coincidence much?

[TouKen4Life3g]

What else? She was cute. No matter how much you don`t judge a book by its cover you can`t simply ignore the cover. Its whats attracts the reader to read the book in the first place.

Well yeah, but the thing is Naruto said he realized why he loves her so much. It's as if to say "That girl - I'm interested in her, but I don't know why. She's cute and all, but something about her attracts me..." Meaning he didn't realize why he was in love with her until that moment happened.

[rocci]

Dunno why I have the feeling this will be brought-up when Naruto will TNJ on Obito... And explain him how he loves Sakura, how he got in love with her and all those stuff because I am sure Rin's situation will be brought-up from the love interest point of view, not as it was like now, comrade. Funny how NH interaction happened when Rin was being talked as a comrade and NS starts interaction when Rin is talked as in love interest. Coincidence much?

I agree with you and this is what I mean about the importance of rin parallel sakura.
About the bold, what do you mean by that?