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[TouKen4Life3g]

No, I'm just saying that there's zero fanservice in TG, burst the moment we see Touka so rarely that even just the sight of her is considered fanservice XD

Lol she's that pretty.

[ichigo500]

My random playlist mostly.  I was thinking about Sarada's mental traumas and then this song came on:

 

Where are you, papa?

Tell me, where are you papa?

Without even talking to him,

he knows what he did wrong.

It's holy papa,

Tell me where are you broken!

It must...

I have at least one thousand times, I

Counted my fingers

Hé!

Where are you? Pa, where are you?
Where are you? Pa, where are you?
Where are you? Pa, where are you?
Where are you, are you, where papa, are you?

 

I kind of laughed myself silly. But I'm a pretty random person...so. 

 

Ah this is Stromae's song "Papaoutai" ! It fits Sarada's situation soo much !!!   

Poor girl....

[RyohkiFan]

What's up with the broken images lately...

[Bail o' Lies]

Well, Hinata's the exception. She wasn't used for fanservice until Kishimoto started listening to SP and the Hinata fappers. It really is disgusting.

Remember every outfit kishimoto designed for hinata she had a hidden bosom. It was until after the last that he just went kitten it this what they want. Granted we did get a good look at her breast while Sakura was healing her..

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 06 May 2015 - 09:15 PM.

[Aizen-Sama]

Remember every outfit kishimoto designed for hinata she had a hidden bosom. It was until after the last that he just went kitten it this what they want. Granted we did get a good look at her breast while Sakura was healing her..

I didn't even notice Hinata's boob when Sakura was healing her. Seriously Hinata just got stabbed in the chest by Pain and is on the verge of life and death and all fans can think about is how big her breasts are beneath her sweater?? It really is disgusting.

[AHK]

Lol she's that pretty.

She's that rare

[Tiller]

My random playlist mostly.  I was thinking about Sarada's mental traumas and then this song came on:

 

Where are you, papa?

Tell me, where are you papa?

Without even talking to him,

he knows what he did wrong.

It's holy papa,

Tell me where are you broken!

It must...

I have at least one thousand times, I

Counted my fingers

Hé!

Where are you? Pa, where are you?
Where are you? Pa, where are you?
Where are you? Pa, where are you?
Where are you, are you, where papa, are you?

 

I kind of laughed myself silly. But I'm a pretty random person...so. 

 

 

. Thanks for sharing. I just posted the lyrics over at the anti-SS fanclub on NF.

[Niky]

ANOTHER MOVIE FOR HINATA SAMA-HIME-CHAN-SAN-KUN-DONO ?!??!?!?

 

 

Sadly, Hinata is nothing but a a pair of walking boobs...

 

Not in a million years did I ever think she'd be loved only for her breasts...

Well, I guess I overestimated most of the male (western) fandom...

Edited by Niky, 06 May 2015 - 09:36 PM.

[trang95]

She's that rare

She's that great.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I wonder what will be everyone's reaction if Kishi does something similar to this in the Naruto Gaiden. 

 

If I live in NY , I would defininitely went to the fan meet con, and I will bring the damn The last movie poster and I will ask Kishi to sign the poster then ask him a favor to tear the poster immediately or other way round, I will tear it right in front of him to show that the movie and the whole deal is crappy :( LOL quite evil huh >:)

p.s. i am new here, treat me well >w<
found out this website quite sometime now and feeling so so so secure here LOL

 

First of all, welcome to our lair 

 

If you're going to do that, before tearing the poster in front of his face. Why don't you shout out the phrase,"BAKA MANGAKA!" 

I'm sure Kishi would not need his translator for that    

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 06 May 2015 - 09:59 PM.

[Niky]

I wonder what will be everyone's reaction if Kishi does something similar to this in the Naruto Gaiden. 

 

AhAhAh!   But Kishi wouldn't never, not in a million years, do that.

It's too realistic, it's too tragic, it's too adult, it's too brilliant... It's too... too much for him!

 

And this is something that we NS fans know only too well.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

AhAhAh!   But Kishi wouldn't never, not in a million years, do that.

It's too realistic, it's too tragic, it's too adult, it's too brilliant... It's too... too much for him!

 

And this is something that we NS fans know only too well.

 

 

No kidding, Niky, considering that he wasn't mature enough to have a real relationshi[p with NS and chose the "fairy tale" of NH. XP

[Niky]

 

 

No kidding, Niky, considering that he wasn't mature enough to have a real relationshi[p with NS and chose the "fairy tale" of NH. XP

PFTTTT! Fairy tale for him...

To me the NH relationship is ugly, dull, boring, abject and mother of ugly kids... A true nightmare, not a fairy tale.

 

Luckily, now Naruto is only TOOOOO FUGLY (heart and face) to arouse my regret. Hinata can keep this eyesore, really!

Edited by Niky, 06 May 2015 - 10:44 PM.

[Nar123]

Answers on bold

 

That's inconclusive on both accounts. We're not completely certain if Tsunade was the progenitor of Byakugou or not. Strong implications in panels showing Mito with a seal-esque marking on her forehand reinforces the theory of Tsunade not being the one who created it.

 

No, it's not. In fact going by canon the only known users of the byakugou are Tsunade and Sakura, futhermore going by the second databook the one who created the creation rebirth seal was Tsunade.

Mito having it is only pure specualtion even if she has the sign
 
 
A number of them, yes, but you also have a percentage of people who dispute unsupported claims that contain next to no evidence proving their existence. I don't believe Sakura or Tsunade are all too powerful in any context. Their bout for recognition is based upon one-dimensional attack patterns with heavy strength and seal-less restoration that has little in the way of feats to justify the boasting.

 

I don't really think so, Tsunade is low to mid kage tier level, granted she has a limited skillset  but she is still strong. her enpowered punches coupled with instant regeneration and durability make her a worthy and formidable foe. LOL "lack of feats", you know there is a reason why Tsunade is called a sannin don't you? She participated in the second ninja war and was a pretty big asset over there. Even Sakura herself, in the phase where Kishi cared for her, showed strenght and assets well enough to assist Chiyo on the defeat of S-rank Sasori 

 

My main problem with this is because their skillsets are alike making Sakura look like only just a copy of Tsunade which is not a good thing for a MC

 

 

So you'll have to forgive me if I don't believe those two characters are able to challenge a character who has had several full-fledged battles against S-rank opponents under his belt with ingenuity, speed, and versatility shown that sets him above practically everyone except the more capable S-rank tiers.
 

You are talking about Hebi!Sasuke? The one who only won againts Deidara due to convenience and asspull? And just won against Itachi because of his brother illness and specially because that was his brother plan all along? LOL

If you meant Taka!Sasuke I could understand since his MS and the amaterasu are enough to put him in kage level

 

 

Actually, no, what Kabuto damaged was the intercostal muscles that are situated next to the ribs. They assist in the inhalation and exhalation of oxygen. Lungs are not the only internal organ that help to facilitate breathing. By the way, my argument regarding the lack of generating entirely new organs still stands.
 

Speculation...again :/

We have no manner to know exactly what was damaged, we only know that the creation rebirth seal took care of the problem, furthermore your argument fails because as I said, the creation rebirth is instant regenration. 

 

Once again, that's false. The injuries sustained were to the upper thigh and arm. But any damage sustained was not life-threatening in the least. Kakashi once stated that you can't strengthen your internal organs, and that's true. This suggestion of Tsunade's innards somehow being more durable than any non-Senju's is unproven and it contradicts established facts.
 
 No , I read the chapter again, it was to the chest area ( heart region), then to her shoulder blades, then to her tights. Any other person would have died from these wounds if not received immediate medical attention, Tsunade's creation rebirth took care of it for her.

 

I already stated before, the muscles are an internal organ. Besides knowing that most organs are made of different types of tissues...and that the byakugou itself regenerates tissue, I think it is pretty clear that it does indeed regenerate

 

 

The key words are "damage" and "recover". Tsunade wasn't deprived of her limbs or organs. She didn't materialise brand new anatomical parts in place of her old ones like a salamander. She countered the damage inflicted to already existing organs that were still in place via Mystical Palm.
 

You do know that the Byakugou isn't the Mystical Palm right? The MYstical palm is healing the byakugou is a regeneration 

Just read

http://www.mangaread...et/naruto/676/7

Now look

http://www.mangaread...et/naruto/588/7

She has two gigantics sword up her torso, I don't know you but it looks like she is still kicking over there, could it be some kind of regeneration ?

 
You were using Kabuto's inflicted injuries to justify your claim in Sozo Saisei/Byakugou popping out new limbs when she recovered from them by activating the Mystical Palm technique. If Byakugou was never brought up during this fight then it should not be referenced.

 

What fight are you talking about?Tsunade used the byakugou/ aka Creation Rebirth seal in her fight against Kabuto

 

 
Reread my third rebuttal.

 

No need

"Actually, no, what Kabuto damaged was the intercostal muscles that are situated next to the ribs. They assist in the inhalation and exhalation of oxygen. Lungs are not the only internal organ that help to facilitate breathing."

 

Speculation

Their function pertains more to the ribs than lungs or windpipe.

 What was affected by Kabuto's jutsu is merely a speculation, I mentioned windpipes and lungs because they are what's more likely to have been hit given that they are the most known common organs that are supposed to handle breathing
 

I'm sorry - do you not understand what the difference is between healing already existing organs compared to spawning new ones from chakra? Damaged organs can be mended, having your larynx removed so that it's no longer functioning in your body is not some usable equivalent. Moreover, you seem to be overlooking the fact that Tsunade did not use her seal in restoring herself, she used basic healing methods. I keep having to repeat this over and over to you for some reason.

 

You seem to not understand how the byakugou works.  It doesn't create "organs" from chakra,  it recreates tissue thanks to ultra fast cell regeneration so as long as there is tissue left to take a sample from and expand, such organ would still be ab le to be recreated or healed. Simple as that.

 

No, in the end of her fight against Kabuto, Tsunade didn't used basic healing techinque, she used her seal, teh create rebirth seal, (AKA byakugou) hell, I even posted a panel of it here...

I don't know...do you think I'm a fool or something? Because you keep repeating the same thing even after receiving cisual evidence that you are wrong
 
I've never read X-men so the analogy escapes me. If you want a more apt comparison, use Ban from "Seven Deadly Sins".

That's true regeneration and immortality in every sense of the word. What Tsunade uses is a glorified Mystical Palm that does little more than fix shattered spinal cords. Most of its acclaim comes from insubstantial hype and boasts.

 

Nope, I already showed visual evidence of the contrary, both from the manga and from other characters mouths; I don't know why do you keep denying it. What happened to this "Ban" is basically the same what would happen with Tsunade and Sakura in the situation minus the fact that they would feel the pain of having their torso blown out og thier bodies but considering  the Byakugou recreates tissue, so it would be able to cover the hole. 

I already showed the panel of her fight against Madara in one of my earlier replies, there are two big swords up her torso and she is fine afterwards thanks to her regeneration, check it out

 

You are confusing yourself, the byakugou is not a glorified mystical palm techinque, the byakugou permits regeneration, it doesn't only heal, it also recreates because it makes the cell regeneration on the whole body a lot faster than normal. 

 
Your images are broken. The only human character who has managed to actually regenerate their limbs on-screen is Juubi Madara after being battered by Guy.

 

On-screen: Madara on his human body managed to glue limbs back together

Off-screen: Tsunade was split in two after her fight against Madara and she came out of it fine in the end due to Katusuyu and Orochimaru 

 

Nevertheless, it's said that the byakugou can regrow limbs as long as the user has chakra, canon evidence points to that as well as the description of the techinique abilities. If you have a problem with it blame Kishimoto for never showing us and giving us evidence that it can happen.

 

Once again, broken image. However, if I remember the panel correctly, the wounds Tsunade sustained were not all too severe. I question if they would even qualify as anything more than second degree burns. Healing damage like that is nothing difficult. It might be something to consider if they were fourth degree - i.e. charred down to the bone and blackened.

 

http://www.mangaread...et/naruto/591/8

It was a fire technique used by Madara Uchiha. Let that sink. Now what you said again? "I question if they would even qualify as anything more than second degree burns." Please, Atheck...the techinique would have dealt serious damage to the Kages if not for Tsunade and yet after the impact she was relatively unarmed because of the byakugou, the high speed regeneration made the burns not so dangerous to her health and body, however as you can see her chakra was gone afterwards and if not for Dan's phantom she would be dead

 

 
How many times do have I to repeat myself to you? Taking someone else's arm and placing it on your stump is not the same as spawning a completely new limb with chakra like some lizard. The most you can say is that it attached the muscles, cartilage, and blood vessels of the arm to his body.

 

I ask the same question, the fact that Madara was able to "glue" limbs back again shows on-screen that the byakugou is capable of such feat, another on-screen events show that it's capable of handling a great deal of internal damage and recreate tissue. However  we never got any on- screen panel of a person with the  byakugou regrowing limbs from nothing though it's mostly likely theoritically possible when even the own creator of the jutsu says so and due to the nature of "fast cell regeneration and multiplacation" 

So yeah, we don't have any panel of byakugou users regrewing limbs like lizards, but we have panels the mostly likely confirm that it's possible. So it's beyond me how did you manage to decide on your own that the jutsu was just baseless hype LOL

 

 
And are we aware of what the extent of the Kages' injuries were? Did Mei have her leg sliced off and grown back? What about Gaara? Did he lose an ear and Katsuyu created an entirely new one for him? Your example is the same scenario as Madara's - separate already existing body parts being attached together with tendons, muscles, spine, and blood vessels being mended. Tsunade didn't regrow her legs so please don't try and equate it to regeneration.

 

 

We just got a superficial look at the kages so it's not fair to give an extent of the injures they managed to get, Tsunade's legs were close by and not smashed/damaged or anything. It's less chakra used to try to attach her legs to her body again than to regrow a whole pair of another legs, a lot more chakra would be used to make the cell regeneration faster. Though it would be theoretically possible for Tsunade to do it as long as Katsuyu could use samples specifc samples of tissue to recreate the tissues her leg

 

Now please, it is stated that the byakugou can generate  limbs as long as there is enough chakra (  we were never shown the actually "regrowing" of limbs on panel but the attachment of other limbs otherwise...), it is stated that it could recreat and heal internal damages on organs and such ( and it's showed on panel

Stop trying to argue that it's baseless hype because it's not.

 
Can you provide the quote that notes this distinction in quality of the Kusanagi blades? Both characters should be equally fast, according to the Databook. Sasuke is certainly more skilled in close quarters than Tsunade. He was tangling with Base Kakashi and surprising him when he was just a young recruit out of the academy.

 

That's because Kakashi understimated him, or are you seriously comparing Genin!Sasuke with kakashi? You sound awfully lot like some Sasuke fanboys smh, maybe this is your case after all

Now about the swords, well there is little distinction between them, Orochimaru's Kusanagi  wounds were healed pretty easily by the creation rebirth once it was activated . Hebi!Sasuke is fast but Tsunade is too, as an experienced medic nin she knows very well the art of dodging

 
 
Dodging skills which have never been used except against Kabuto who is the same in terms of speed as she is.

 

Please, Tsunade is the one that teached Sakura how to dodge, she is the one that estabilished the rules of the medic nin as what "dodging" is main part of it, assuming she isn't good at it is just sompletely and utterly ridiculous

Tsunade isn't the MC, we won't get a full exploration of her training and powers

 

 

 

 
Really? This is coming from the same poster who misconstrues and exaggerates his evidence, in spite of the fact that much of it wasn't even achieved through the technique in question.

 

Look who is talkin :/ 

Well I have evidence that can back up my statements do you? You only have your refined prose, our speculations and baseless assumptions. Get this thorugh your head m8

We got enough of a focus on Byakugou  to actually determine a few thing

-- Tsunade herself ( the creator) says what said techinique can do

--We see the techinque healing internal injuries and recreating tissue

--Recreating tissue means the techinique is based on fast cell regenaration, with enough chakra, theoretically it is possible to regrow limbs as long as the body has samples of the lost tissues (though we were never shown

--Thanks to the technique it's possible to attach or reattach body parts, being a fairly tame method of recuperating limbs without having to go through the probable chakra echaustion regrowing a limb would take

 

But even with all these fact pretty much evidenced by panels and statemenst, you are the one still assuring the techinique is still baseless hype...lol

 

 
Try and use something that's more akin to what Madara demonstrated against Guy if you want actual proof of regeneration.

 

The regeneration I'm talking about is cell regeneration, you know what tha is don't you? Based on this it's theoretically possible that someone with the byakugou would be able to regrow limbs but it was never shown.

 

That scene with the Madara arm regeneration obviously happened so fast for example because he had the large chakra reserves of the juubi, however it's still a doubt in my mind if his regeneration was due to his status as juubi jinchuuriki or his byakugou like technique. Since we never saw a jinchuuriki regrowing limbs like that I'd say it came from his byakugou like technique but since I'm not 100% sure, I chose not to bring this scene up

 

All of those flames were surrounding the compound. They weren't directly aimed into the atmosphere for the expressed motive of making rain clouds.
 

Enough fire on ground level also contribues for an atmosphere change didn't you know? And as I said Sasuke taking time to send one of his strong enough Katons to the heavens would leave him open if he was on a close fight, wirch would probably be the case, I already said too that he generally leaves the Kirin for his last resort didn't I? When he is completely and utterly out of chakra

 
 
So basically, he's going to blindly and stupidly continue chopping away at this woman who continues to magically regenerate her limbs with everything he has, hoping that eventually she won't heal back? What kind of logic is this? If Sasuke's exhausted all other avenues of attack then he's going to use Kirin, low chakra or not - not that I believe the appendage regrowth argument. It's just being cited for example purposes.

 

Are you magically assuming Tsunade would just stand there like a doll and let Sasuke chop her arms off     ? And no, if her limbs regenerated it wouldn't be so fast like that and t would drain her chakra reserves quite a lot.

You are arguing about a one-sided fight LOL, Tsunade knows dodging, she wouldn just let Hebi!Sasuke's kusanagi hit her every time, even to throw point managing to chop of one of her limb; futhermore with the creation rebirth techinque she could receive a hit on purpose with the intention of leaving Hebi!Sasuke open for a counterattack.

Hebi!Sasuke only shred of chance IMO woulde be to fight at a distance, bring out a summon and use it because he would lose in close combat

 

Sasuke specifically says he uses Kirin when he is low on chakra, it's quite a waste otherwise, counting with the fact tha the only used the Kirin once...yeah.

  
 
No attack that can successfully land on Sasuke. He's much too quick for either character to impact. They'll mostly be on the defencive, trying to stay alive while aiming those linear attacks of theirs, hoping for one to land.  

 

Please, really? I think you are wanking Hebi!Sasuke too much...Hebi!Sasuke isn't even Kage level yet m8 and we saw how Taka!Sasuke struggled witht he other kages during the Kage Summit

And as I said before Hebi!Sasuke on a close combat with Tsunade would lose fairly easily, his only chance would be to remain at distance and on the defensiveusing his snake summons.
  
 
Chidori pierces Tsunade's heart. In her final moments, she clutches Sasuke's arm to keep him in place for a responding blow à la Haku and Kakashi. Difference is - Sasuke has Chidori Nagashi to numb Tsunade's senses with. Gaara's Sand Dome attempted to restrain him as well and look how that panned out. That strategy will not work so long as Raiton is available.

 

 This is a big series of what if's. Hebi!Sasuke wouldn't be on the same level of velocity than a kage or a sannin, it's too much of a stretch to think it would be easy like he did with Yamato (who by the way only took the hit because he went to save Sakura)

 

But lets say this situation happened someway somehow like Sasuke in a desperate attempt to defeat Tsunade chose to randomly attack a genin bystander and then Tsunade went and took the hit purposely to save the kid, not only the creation rebirth would regenerate the dealt wounds and probably even the numbness but Sasuke would also be putting himself in great risk by staying in a hitting distance from Tsunade, only a split second would be necessary for him to lose the fight

 

As I said the best strategy for him would be to fight at distance

 

 
We are still referring to Base Hebi Sasuke, yes? Because Hebi Sasuke with all of his permutations was taking on S-rank Akatsuki members and momentarily outpacing Amaterasu. I'll agree that in base he's only A-rank tier, which is still higher compared to Sakura, but fully powered Hebi Sasuke with CS2 and the Sharingan is definitely in the Kage spectrum.  

 

No, I don't agree with you.  Taka!Sasuke who is clearly stronger was having problems during the Kage Summit, I'd say Hebi Sasuke was elite jounin level at most

I already explained Hebi!Sasuke Akatsuki fights, he won against Deidara due to conveninence and asspull and Itachi was ill and fought only with the intention of taking the curse seal away from Sasuke

 

The curse seal gives him some extra chakra, speed and the ability to fly. I don't think though he would still be a match to the likes of a Kage

 

 

 
Restoring injured tissue and muscles is nothing extraordinary. It occurs every day in real life as well. This conversation is about you trying to prove that Tsunade can sprout internal organs and limbs from stumps.

 

Yeah but it occurs at the speed the creation rebirth permits it to happen? That's specially what changes, the fast cell regeneration opens the door to a lot of possibilities including sprouting internal organs ( as it was showed) and limbs (statement at the manga  but never on panel revelation)

Understand this, the byakugou regnerates tissue, organs are made of tissue, as long as there is a sample of that type of tissue regeneration could happen based if the user has enough chakra

 

 
 
No, what I'm doing is asking for hard actual proof to justify the hype; which you have given none of and continue to turn a blind eye to the fact that your examples aren't actual examples of what would qualify as regeneration. I don't care what bold accusations are made in a statement translated by a company that's notorious for distorting the literal interpretation of the manga. We know that the Sannin are capable of what they say they can do because they have the feats to back it up. On the other hand, Tsunade doesn't reinforce her claims, at least in regards to her seal. She's never grown legs, or arms, or created a new heart on-screen. She needed to rely on Hashirama's cells to manually create a prosthetic arm for Naruto instead of transferring her Byakugou technique and having him pop a natural one out of his stump. Why would this be necessary if she can transfer abilities/chakra over and her Byakugou is capable of literally regenerating appendages? It makes no sense.

 

And I gave you proof, you are just to blind to see it   

Here read what regeneration means

--http://en.wikipedia....ation_(biology)

now read Byakugou's page on Narutopedia

--http://naruto.wikia....reation_Rebirth

 

Did you see it? It's pretty simple, the problem here is ou not understanding what regeneration means and entails, the problem here is you thinking the byakugo would grant an instant recover of said limb...no, it would use a lot of chakra but it would happen theoretically.

The tidbit about healing internal organs, tissues and etc is confirmed evidence already

 

The sannin particiapted in the second ninja war all of them, I'd say they haeve quite ebough feats

Tsunade used Hashirama's cells to create protestic arms simply because it's the obvious solution, if you didn't know the creation rebirth seal has a big counter, it diminishes the user life style more and more, now tell me why would Tsunade use her creation rebirth seal to make a limb regrow wasting chakra and life span in the proccess while she could simply make one with those handy Hashiram's cells that are the answer for everything in the shinobi world ?

 It makes no sense, would you waste part of your life when you could find an easier solution?

Edited by Nar123, 07 May 2015 - 01:37 AM.

[LuckyChi7]

Ria and I are trying figure out what name sounds perfect for  Naruto and Sakura's daughter?

 

Sachi Uzumaki or Haru Uzumaki? 

[Nar123]

Ria and I are trying figure out what name sounds perfect for  Naruto and Sakura's daughter?

 

Sachi Uzumaki or Haru Uzumaki? 

 

Well Sachi in japanese means "child of joy"

Haru means "spring"

 

Personally I would go with Sachi 

[trang95]

Ria and I are trying figure out what name sounds perfect for  Naruto and Sakura's daughter?

 

Sachi Uzumaki or Haru Uzumaki? 

Sachi. The full name could be "Sachiko" and the nickname "Sachi" XD

[LuckyChi7]

 

Well Sachi in japanese means "child of joy"

Haru means "spring"

 

Personally I would go with Sachi 

 

 

Sachi. The full name could be "Sachiko" and the nickname "Sachi" XD

 

 

The funny thing is I was the one who suggested Sachi and Ria thought it would be cool for her nickname to be Sachi and her real name to be Sachiko. 

 

But that aside, thanks for the suggestions guys. 

[trang95]

 

 

 

 

The funny thing is I was the one who suggested Sachi and Ria thought it would be cool for her nickname to be Sachi and her real name to be Sachiko. 

 

But that aside, thanks for the suggestions guys. 

Offtopic: Do you have a tumblr account?

[LuckyChi7]

Offtopic: Do you have a tumblr account?

 

I did for a short amount of time but then I deleted it,  although I am thinking of creating one again.