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[TouKen4Life3g]

I understand them, but it still no good of something to think over. I'm going to write another post, not so much on LAP, but to put it blunt, Naruto lost his friends. Next, his teacher, his brother/rival, his love interest, and if you want, his father.

[Sakura~]

I want Sakura to be in the cover of the next volume and I want her to shine in the upcoming chapters. It's not fair that Naruto and Sasuke got sage power while Sakura didn't   

 

 

I really hope chatte's theory would come true. http://www.chattesgo...ne-last-theory/

Edited by Sakura~, 23 May 2014 - 11:27 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Truth be told Hinata "calling" Naruto, and Naruto "responding" to her was not a coincidence. Kishimoto knew exactly what he was doing. He's a clever little bastard. He's just toying around with the NH fanbase. It's similar to what he did with 615, everyone was screaming that NH is canon because they hold hands and bla bla bla and then 616 came out and made that moment irrelevant.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the next chapter Naruto says that he can sense his friends getting trapped and he doesn't say a thing about Hinata.

[Otaru]

Truth be told Hinata "calling" Naruto, and Naruto "responding" to her was not a coincidence. Kishimoto knew exactly what he was doing. He's a clever little bastard. He's just toying around with the NH fanbase. It's similar to what he did with 615, everyone was screaming that NH is canon because they hold hands and bla bla bla and then 616 came out and made that moment irrelevant.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the next chapter Naruto says that he can sense his friends getting trapped and he doesn't say a thing about Hinata.

 

People are saying that they have a special spiritual connection it's really silly... lol

[TouKen4Life3g]

In James' short translation, Sasuke is a poisoned character. Lol.

[ramenanmitsu]

I agree
Team 7 are going the power rangers route using Sasuke's susanoo as a megazord

The male characters look absolutely pathetic in that costume.


Sakura-chan is the only one that manages to look good.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Lol. That's somewhat true on guys. Maybe we should just wear Godzilla costumes. At least we can say, "Yeah, fear us!"

[Hanabi]

i just saw this in sakura wikia page

 

 During the first, written portion of the exam, Sakura is one of the few examinees that is able to answer the questions without cheating. She instead spends her time lamenting that Naruto is probably too stupid to answer the questions or know that he is supposed to cheat, and contemplates forfeiting so that he doesn't need to embarrass himself. After seeing Naruto's confidence in himself, she decides against it, and they pass the first phase.

 

does anyone here have an account to help to change it, or just word it better and i'll change it myself.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Almost sounded ok, until the reason she's about to do it. It's like we skipped "Hokage" aspect and jump straight to her about raise her hand. It's not about embarrassment, it's about dream staying alive. Don't forget the situation they were in.

And if you believe what they said above, I'm going to assume you being stuck with Juubi's genjutsu. Good day.

[Gravenimage]

Hanabi@ Naruto wiki is full biased NH fans. Anyone with an account can edit the information as they pleases. Just ignore it though I'm sure said wiki page is one of the many reasons why the western fandom has become biased and believe NH and SS are the official pairings. I feel sorry for the page when the manga ends and NS is canon they will have no choice but to change the information the right way. 

 

Aside from that anyone who has read the manga and watched the anime knows very well that Sakura was willing to give up the test because she didn't wanted to see Naruto's dream getting crushed, proving she cares for him.

[Hanabi]

ikr   but i don't really know how to word it short enough, and someone here might be a wikia user 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hanabi@ Naruto wiki is full biased NH fans. Anyone with an account can edit the information as they pleases. Just ignore it though I'm sure said wiki page is one of the many reasons why the western fandom has become biased and believe NH and SS are the official pairings. I feel sorry for the page when the manga ends and NS is canon they will have no choice but to change the information the right way. 
 
Aside from that anyone who has read the manga and watched the anime knows very well that Sakura was willing to give up the test because she didn't wanted to see Naruto's dream getting crushed, proving she cares for him.

I believe their tear drops will do the typing for them.

[Inferno180]

I think a bigger deal is that, when it comes to sasuke well yeah, despite his mess as an antihero, its naruto and sakura have faith in him, they want to save him from his self destructive path. I wont say its fully messed with their character development, I mean everything else is fine, but the only way this sasuke obession will finally die for both of them is with sakura finally starting to change in relation away from her idealistic love of him while naruto will simply solve it once their battle is over, other than that their character development is fine, but its for the sake of the story they are on this sasuke obsession I mean again, naruto didnt want to lose who he considered a brother and sakura at the time, who she loved but then for her it became more about supporting naruto, not herself in getting sasuke back, but she still grew with naruto over time and changed much more with him as opposed to sasuke.

 

The other deal? Well because most of the cast has been shafted, now many NH fans went on panic mode and because there are still fans out there who think sakura is no questions in love with sasuke and who think naruto will just again go for hinata, they made predictions now in which she breaks out or naruto decides to rescue her. Really even though we have had expectations in the past, this is going too far, I mean what makes hinata special to have a role in the current situation? What makes her unique among all the other byakugan users? What purpose would she serve when even the current roles of sakura and kakashi lead many to question what does kishi have in store for them if team 7 didnt fall prey to the infinite genjutsu? I mean back when naruto had to be revived, we hoped for a wakeup scene, it didnt happen the way we wanted, but it was at least possible. Now for this, I mean its supposed to be the strongest genjutsu around, how can anyone hope to break free of it unless they had their own rinnegan like sasuke? Are some NH fans really hoping that it occurs that much they dont even have time to think of a role for her? Is it because of kagyua having a byakugan? This chapter proved she was a villian and a physco, no way Hinata and her are related. Its again, even for kagyua having the byakugan, the eye of the moon plan has still not involved the byaukgan in anyway shape or form and now people suspect that it will? The genjutsu has been cast, all the world is under madaras control save team 7, obito, and the edo hokage. Im just puzzled, do people really expect it this much? That Hinata will have some role? They still kling to the he heard her mental cry and went to rescue her, despite the fact if naruto could read minds wouldnt he have been able to read sasukes mind for his real plan? This is the BS I wish people would stop trying to use, no really, its funny and even interesting at times, but now just stop, just stop, they need to keep their expectations in reality, like if so n so is going to appear in this way, what could they possibly do? The current situation meaning, aside from those we know are good to go, what do they honestly expect to happen for the others like hinata, and in other cases as they think, why not shikamaru, tsunade, gaara, and so on, why leave them behind? Surely if one person was to be unique and break out of the genjutsu, why not someone with a greater ability? I mean Kabuto was skilled at all the stuff he did yet he was hit by the genjutsu. Really, if anyone had the ability to break out, I would suspect it to be orochimaru, that guy almost sneaks around in ways not seen, I mean his goal, its otherwise obvious he wanted to obtain the rinnegan, possibly even the fruit from the tidbits or research given throughout the series, orochimaru was gone for a while, but his backstory was highly revealed in the case of the war. Really I suspect orochimaru was the only one even remotely capable of breaking free, if anyone was able too. But for now, no, theres just no foreseeable way or sense for HInata to break free or for naruto to go rescue her when it just leaves so many questions of well, what purpose would this serve? Why slow the plot down for that? I mean why not just have let Hinata gotten to safety in the sussano cloak? Why just show her trapped among the rest? I dont follow how some expect it to just come get her free when kishi himself already doesnt even give a freaking clue as to what he really intends to do with her. We had no idea where her development was going for a long time, we had a slight hint after 615 but it quickly died and she went to the back again, missed development opportunity with naruto needing a revival, and now this. Its literally the same deal like when naruto needed a revival, people everywhere just wanted a situation in which sakura sacrificed herself for naruto, the only reason was they wanted her out of the way, they wanted her gone cause they didnt like her. Now they want Hinata saved ASAP only so she has something to do when, in some cases, this may have been the better choice considering she hasn't done much already. I mean I know some things we hope for are wishful thinking, but this, really? Naruto to only save her? When there are so many reasons that this would slow down the plot? My god are NH fans really just hoping for an overly cheesy and pointless event like that when theres a battle going on?

[BlueStarSaber]

I saw his video. Ok lets be real. I love Sakura. I'm obsessed with her, but I agree with him when he said that she shouldn't be thinking about Sasuke. Kishi did a big mistake tbh. Her obsession over Sasuke is really destroying her development and degrading her character. , but I still havr hope for her to change. :(

 

She has only really thought of Sasuke 3 times during this war in they medic tent when he retuned and when they team was working together. 3 times and each time shown in a negative way: he's not a great guy, she doesn't truat him and seen that he does not even seem to care if she is hurt.  Sakura in this war has been more focused on healing, the zetsu clones when she caught one, her friends & teachers, Madara's eye and Naruto.

[Nostradamus]

i just saw this in sakura wikia page

 

 During the first, written portion of the exam, Sakura is one of the few examinees that is able to answer the questions without cheating. She instead spends her time lamenting that Naruto is probably too stupid to answer the questions or know that he is supposed to cheat, and contemplates forfeiting so that he doesn't need to embarrass himself. After seeing Naruto's confidence in himself, she decides against it, and they pass the first phase.

 

does anyone here have an account to help to change it, or just word it better and i'll change it myself.

  You see this is why I don't visit naruto wiki.

 

 

@Gravenimage I doubt that when the story ends that they'll change the information on wikipedia to the correct form. Probably they'll just find a way to make it sound like Kishimoto screwed up in the end. Something like "Throughout the entire storyline Sakura never cared about Naruto and the only one that has been shown to care and love Naruto was Hinata. Hinata was the one that constantly wished for Naruto to fulfill his dream and supported him along the way."

Edited by Nostradamus, 23 May 2014 - 01:58 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
She has only really thought of Sasuke 3 times during this war in they medic tent when he retuned and when they team was working together. 3 times and each time shown in a negative way: he's not a great guy, she doesn't truat him and seen that he does not even seem to care if she is hurt.  Sakura in this war has been more focused on healing, the zetsu clones when she caught one, her friends & teachers, Madara's eye and Naruto.

In short, when the time is right. Seriously, I think today's world reading comprehension has changed drastically. It's like reading Shakespeare and not get any meanings. Honestly, if you don't, then you need to learn.

[TyranntX]

 

@Gravenimage I doubt that when the story ends that they'll change the information on wikipedia to the correct form. Probably they'll just find a way to make it sound like Kishimoto screwed up in the end. Something like "Throughout the entire storyline Sakura never cared about Naruto and the only one that has been shown to care and love Naruto was Hinata. Hinata was the one that constantly wished for Naruto to fulfill his dream and supported him along the way."

 

What the hell was that guy smoking?

[Inferno180]

Really this entire mess of support for NH and SS by the fandom with opposition to NS is something that really leads me to question the rationality of fans.

 

I mean would they honestly go and support stuff the way they did in this series and not others? I mean again, avatar the last airbender, had zuko joined the good guys at the end of season 2, maybe that would have merited zuko with katara a better chance, rather than only the last 10 episodes of zuko being a good guy and only 6 of which he then became friends with katara, after she forgave him for his betrayl in ba sing se.

 

Literally this is something I question all the time, its not only that whole deal of calling sakura abusive or treating her as she was in part 1 while never making a case on this for any other "abusive girl" in any other manga/anime series this leads me to some of the biggest things I am ever truely ashamed of. This is a manga with so much visual and narrative edivence, when we get people at the point of just outright saying stuff like SS is assured cause sakura will always love sasuke, going against the main purpose of character development in any story, people will say NS cannot happen in a million years, even when theres a direct hint of an end pairing and even as minor as it was in 631, people call it a joke and just dismiss it. Yet NH will obviously happen because of hinata loving naruto despite nothing mangawise to hint even naruto moving on from sakura.

 

No in some parts, the pairing wars makes me ashamed, I mean people know how to read, I am sure they went to school, people cannot honestly be somehow bad when it comes to naruto can they? I am not calling people stupid for what they believe in, just is this seriously how people choose to read the pairing stuff in naruto when even I am sure, by odins beard, that people know how to and choose to read things realistically in just about anything else, why do they only apply this inverse logic to naruto? Did kishi use some dark sorcery or did people somehow get lost along the lines of logic in that when it comes to reading any story, you just read it as you would anything else. I mean anyone reads lord of the rings, they know the goal is to destroy the ring, never would they expect them to say just give the ring to the bad guys or just kill gollum right there, its not like in another series like one piece they would expect luffy to abandon a friend, yet they treat these almost rendered impossible relationships or highly undeveloped at best, as the most possible, but when a simple 1+1 event with kushinas foreshadow to 631 comes out, all hell breaks loose and whats worse, no one even considers this a simple possibility!

 

This is truely the thing that has frustrated me the most with the naruto pairing fandom, this either lack of reading ability (which I am sure is not true) or the fact that please god tell me this is just selective reading. I mean you never see this problem with the main audience, teenage boys in japan, you never see major events like this story-plot debate spectacle with them so why, why for the western world, which is supposed to be developed, have more progressive civilizations, have higher rates of education? Please tell me god, why the hell is this such a problem for the western audiences? The fact that people choose to selectively read only this is fine, people can take their pairings and like what they like, but to continue to outright just say one thing will happen despite little to no evidence while completely sidelining another that has been hinted and shown much more than another, this is just, I don't even know how to respond when I even know the people who do this wouldn't or most likely not do this with anything else they read.

 

My problem with the fandom is, its just how can people read into stuff like this and yet, even I know they dont read anything else like this, why treat naruto like this? Why? I mean again, the point I'm making isnt based on the pairings, its just that why even in the same series, people dont make this type of fuss with the main plot so why do they with a subplot? People dont do this with other series, all stories have the same basic way to be read, many people learn to read, those reading this manga made such an issue with this though, why did they make it such an issue and become so diluted to some extents that they are so sure it will happen when they know full well they don't use this type of belief in other series. I mean either people are just selective reading, or if this is truely how people read then I dont even want to know about what caused this, I mean its again not the fact that people choose what they ship, its the fact that how can people really just sideline whats actually come into a story and still just go on with beliefs that something they hope will come will just come regardless of development? This is one of the deepest regrets I have with being a naruto fan, but otherwise, yeah people can believe what they want, the fact of this puzzle is just enough to make one like me sad. People can ship what they want but when the hard truth comes, should NS go canon (I bet it will) all evidence will come to a point and be used for a reason. Because last chapter convinced me, should Hinata be gone for the rest of this fight, NH is utterly killed because of the lack of development and sasuke never loved sakura and she is changing so, well you know what this means by default.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I will say this: male's "obsession" in Japan is at times questionable for the eyes of others, much like with other parts of Japan that is questionable. I'm just saying, if it's part of their way, so be it.

[narusaku256]

 
Yeah, this. It was Naruto who kept bringing Sasuke back into the picture. It was Naruto who has been the most obsessive I think. Sure, Sakura has thought about them and I am not going to say she hasn't, but he thoughts about him have actually been that of development. She only thought about him when shown to have a change about him.

This is unlike Naruto when the only thing he talks about is how he wants to save Sasuke or how such good friends they are or how he understands him. I mean, come on, people say Sakura's fangirling is ridiculous and yet I see Naruto as a bigger fangirl for Sasuke at times.

It's ironic though that when the story isn't about Sasuke or Naruto's journey to save Sasuke, the characters are actually very well written and the progress is amazing. I am starting to wonder if giving Naruto a rival was the worst idea Kishimoto's editors ever came up with.

That last paragraph deserves a standing ovation. Hadn't Sasuke been brought into picture, Naruto would be totally badass, Sakura chan would not have to endure so much hurt and pain, her development would be quite satifactory and we would get tons of cute, tender, warm NS moments. NS would be soooo much cuter then. Thou art the man James, *sob* *sob* Lol XD

Edited by narusaku256, 23 May 2014 - 04:01 PM.