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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ May 10 2013, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you, I was aware of the misconception, I just annoyed that basically when it comes to the majority of fans, they basically take things out of context. Only thing I like about Narupedia is basically an explanation of how things work like jutsu or whatever else, I mean when I first saw Izanagi, or the one used on Kabuto, I was confused with the whole point of it until I saw this. I mean some stuff like with the recent chapter showed that a jinchurki could die but the tailed beast comes back later, so the 3 tails was technically the only know bijuu to die and revive later on.

What I want to know what's the requirement to be a jinchuuriki. Unless Rin is something unique, it's like they're saying anyone can be one, just have to do it yourself. I do think she won't last long for if the body is weak, the seal will be broken at the faster rate, if I remember correctly, so you can say Rin is a one time deal. Still, I want to know the requirements of being a Jinchuuriki because then, it makes me think more.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:59 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I want to know what's the requirement to be a jinchuuriki. Unless Rin is something unique, it's like they're saying anyone can be one, just have to do it yourself. I do think she won't last long for if the body is weak, the seal will be broken at the faster rate, if I remember correctly, so you can say Rin is a one time deal. Still, I want to know the requirements of being a Jinchuuriki because then, it makes me think more.

I think rin mean to become jinchuriki suicide bomber, not true jinchuriki than can manipulate it's power.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:02 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I want to know what's the requirement to be a jinchuuriki. Unless Rin is something unique, it's like they're saying anyone can be one, just have to do it yourself. I do think she won't last long for if the body is weak, the seal will be broken at the faster rate, if I remember correctly, so you can say Rin is a one time deal. Still, I want to know the requirements of being a Jinchuuriki because then, it makes me think more.


Not any real requirements save that the jinchurki are most of the time related to a kage. This is due to having loyalty to the village.

So we know it like naruto and his parents, gaara and his parents, mito and hashirama, bee (being an adopted brother) and ay.

It is not known how yugito is related to this but she may be an acception. Otherwise it is possible that the others are related like this:

Yagura and utakata may have had some connections with Mei or the past mizukage like the second.

Roshi and Han may have been related to ohnoki or mu.

Fuu is the only unknown one because she is from a minor village. All I know is that there are deals of compatibility like bee did not have a monstrous chakra yet he could contain the 8 tails. They need something to let them contain and suppress the tailed beast chakra. Obviously any uchiha, senju, or uzumaki could be a jinchurki no problem, they all have natural powers to contain them. Others it takes some criteria.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ May 10 2013, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not any real requirements save that the jinchurki are most of the time related to a kage. This is due to having loyalty to the village.

So we know it like naruto and his parents, gaara and his parents, mito and hashirama, bee (being an adopted brother) and ay.

It is not known how yugito is related to this but she may be an acception. Otherwise it is possible that the others are related like this:

Yagura and utakata may have had some connections with Mei or the past mizukage like the second.

Roshi and Han may have been related to ohnoki or mu.

Fuu is the only unknown one because she is from a minor village. All I know is that there are deals of compatibility like bee did not have a monstrous chakra yet he could contain the 8 tails. They need something to let them contain and suppress the tailed beast chakra. Obviously any uchiha, senju, or uzumaki could be a jinchurki no problem, they all have natural powers to contain them. Others it takes some criteria.


I think there still is. Probably a big number of Uzumaki's can become ones, yet why did they chose Kushina?
Gaara was the last of three children.
Bee became A's brother through his skills but probably was also a good match.

Maybe thou for a short while anyone can. Minato didn't istantly die when he sealed the yin part of kurama, thou one can argue that the dead god seal is a special one. To survive with it thou is the trick of becoming a real jinchuuriki. Naruto's struggle, Gaara's struggle especially made it look like if he couldn't control the beast, he would be considered a failed jinchuuriki.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ May 10 2013, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think rin mean to become jinchuriki suicide bomber, not true jinchuriki than can manipulate it's power.

I was thinking that too. Has anyone noticed how parallel it has gotten. I got to say, this is rather funny.

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ May 10 2013, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not any real requirements save that the jinchurki are most of the time related to a kage. This is due to having loyalty to the village.

So we know it like naruto and his parents, gaara and his parents, mito and hashirama, bee (being an adopted brother) and ay.

It is not known how yugito is related to this but she may be an acception. Otherwise it is possible that the others are related like this:

Yagura and utakata may have had some connections with Mei or the past mizukage like the second.

Roshi and Han may have been related to ohnoki or mu.

Fuu is the only unknown one because she is from a minor village. All I know is that there are deals of compatibility like bee did not have a monstrous chakra yet he could contain the 8 tails. They need something to let them contain and suppress the tailed beast chakra. Obviously any uchiha, senju, or uzumaki could be a jinchurki no problem, they all have natural powers to contain them. Others it takes some criteria.

I guess that make sense.

QUOTE (Dkey @ May 10 2013, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think there still is. Probably a big number of Uzumaki's can become ones, yet why did they chose Kushina?
Gaara was the last of three children.
Bee became A's brother through his skills but probably was also a good match.

Maybe thou for a short while anyone can. Minato didn't istantly die when he sealed the yin part of kurama, thou one can argue that the dead god seal is a special one. To survive with it thou is the trick of becoming a real jinchuuriki. Naruto's struggle, Gaara's struggle especially made it look like if he couldn't control the beast, he would be considered a failed jinchuuriki.

You know, why Kushina out of all Uzumaki? Maybe she was the only one. Anyway, I want to know if Madara becomes a jinchuuriki, how long would it even last?

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was thinking that too. Has anyone noticed how parallel it has gotten. I got to say, this is rather funny.


I guess that make sense.


You know, why Kushina out of all Uzumaki? Maybe she was the only one. Anyway, I want to know if Madara becomes a jinchuuriki, how long would it even last?


Madara can just be setting himself up for a big failure, finally achieving something only for it to blow back into his face like the ten tails just coming right back out.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, why Kushina out of all Uzumaki? Maybe she was the only one. Anyway, I want to know if Madara becomes a jinchuuriki, how long would it even last?

I thought Obito said he would become the host???

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ May 10 2013, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought Obito said he would become the host???

I believe they already give up, the Juubi is out of their control, Obito is going to fight Kakashi and Madara seems that he also give up too and is going to meet Hashirama to have his fun.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 10 2013, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe they already give up, the Juubi is out of their control, Obito is going to fight Kakashi and Madara seems that he also give up too and is going to meet Hashirama to have his fun.

I knew they gave up because of the lost connection, I just thought that Obito was gonna be the host due to Madara still being immortal.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ May 10 2013, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought Obito said he would become the host???



QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 10 2013, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe they already give up, the Juubi is out of their control, Obito is going to fight Kakashi and Madara seems that he also give up too and is going to meet Hashirama and ask to be his girlfriend, since he already made a statue of him, also made a tatto of him and even injected his cells on himself this is the only part that is missing.

If I recall, the plan is to make Madara the host as they planned it a long time ago. However, Madara came back to life in Edo Tensei form, not actual revival. It's like if we use Yu-Gi-Oh terms (yeah, let's go with it), Monster Reborn will mean the monster is back to life, period. Call of the Haunted is the same, only if a person destroy that spell, so as the monster. Get it? Madara said he can't do it since he's not really resurrected and Obito can do it for him since he's the only one to actually revive him; however, Obito is more and more becoming himself and told him to f--- off. So pretty much, Madara was the one to be it, but since he's Edo and Juubi is growing worse, pretty much everything will be on hold until further notice.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I recall, the plan is to make Madara the host as they planned it a long time ago. However, Madara came back to life in Edo Tensei form, not actual revival. It's like if we use Yu-Gi-Oh terms (yeah, let's go with it), Monster Reborn will mean the monster is back to life, period. Call of the Haunted is the same, only if a person destroy that spell, so as the monster. Get it? Madara said he can't do it since he's not really resurrected and Obito can do it for him since he's the only one to actually revive him; however, Obito is more and more becoming himself and told him to f--- off. So pretty much, Madara was the one to be it, but since he's Edo and Juubi is growing worse, pretty much everything will be on hold until further notice.

I feel that he give up and is going to fight Hashirama, he's not pressuring Obito to do the jutsu and even Obito does not seem to care, if he could why would he ask Madara to be the jinchuuriki if he really wanted to put the plan in motion, he had two moments to do that, before Naruto went to distribute chakra and this chapter were Naruto was powerless he could do it, but i believe he give up, he lose to make Naruto give up and Naruto also lose to redeem Obito, now he seeks to fight Kakashi were deep inside wants something from Kakashi to be redeemed(which could help to finish his redemption)
Madara knows this is not going to stay on the battlefield will fight against Hashirama and will lose again.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:32 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 10 2013, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel that he give up and is going to fight Hashirama, he's not pressuring Obito to do the jutsu and even Obito does not seem to care, if he could why would he ask Madara to be the jinchuuriki if he really wanted to put the plan in motion, he had two moments to do that, before Naruto went to distribute chakra and this chapter were Naruto was powerless he could do it, but i believe he give up, he lose to make Naruto give up and Naruto also lose to redeem Obito, now he seeks to fight Kakashi were deep inside wants something from Kakashi to be redeemed(which could help to finish his redemption)
Madara knows this is not going to stay on the battlefield will fight against Hashirama and will lose again.

I don't know if he gave up, but I think it is on hold. I don't know if he's moving out to find Hashirama, though I won't be surprised. I just think the idea of being Jinchuuriki of that beast will happen. I actually feel this way when a character/plot talks about it, it will happen, one way or another.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know if he gave up, but I think it is on hold. I don't know if he's moving out to find Hashirama, though I won't be surprised. I just think the idea of being Jinchuuriki of that beast will happen. I actually feel this way when a character/plot talks about it, it will happen, one way or another.


Madara : This was the most you could do i already found something else to enjoy... i'll get out of here.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:42 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 10 2013, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Madara : This was the most you could do i already found something else to enjoy... i'll get out of here.

So he is leaving? Hm.

Well, I still think the Jinchuuriki part will play still, but I could be wrong. If not wrong, then who? No...he couldn't be...

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:49 PM

It's pretty much established that Hashirama and Madara can control this beasts without becoming jinchuuriki. So why does Madara need to become one. He needs the juubi's chakra to cast the genjutsu probably and he can't use the chakra unless it is in it's body. But if he lost interest and wants another sparring ( probably wants to prove to hashirama that he is stronger). Whatever just have to wait and see.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ May 10 2013, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's pretty much established that Hashirama and Madara can control this beasts without becoming jinchuuriki. So why does Madara need to become one. He needs the juubi's chakra to cast the genjutsu probably and he can't use the chakra unless it is in it's body. But if he lost interest and wants another sparring ( probably wants to prove to hashirama that he is stronger). Whatever just have to wait and see.

I should not think this, but I can't help but got a bad feeling I know who will be the host. Maybe I'm just thinking too ahead.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I should not think this, but I can't help but got a bad feeling I know who will be the host. Maybe I'm just thinking too ahead.


Do you think Naruto will become the 10 tails host???

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ May 10 2013, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you think Naruto will become the 10 tails host???

Maybe, but I was thinking more of...that guy.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 10 2013, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe, but I was thinking more of...that guy.


Sasuke? Obito?

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ May 10 2013, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke? Obito?

Sasuke. Obito, if continue longer, seems like his time is in this volume since he's on the road now, starting with the truth behind his reason and the past.




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