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[TouKen4Life3g]

Not gonna lie to you but I read a few posts on that forum and I think I went into a coma. Because I just woke up. I know we're not suppose to bring other forums or arguments from those forums but they disregard the entire NS development done since part 1. I mean someone said Hinata was a lot like Kushina because she" hits" Naruto. Now when in the manga has Hinata hit him for comical relief? I don't want to bash but for the safety of the thread let's not bring opposite forums and just stick to our own opinions and arguments.

I agree about not bringing other forum here. That said about Hinata and Kushina. Ok, so apparently we need Sakura to hit Naruto again to confirm things. "Oh, but she's a b**** to hit him." Then what the hell do you want! God, this aggravated me to no end. First of all, the background. You need the background. I don't even recall Hinata talking about Naruto being Hokage, because guess who, Sakura does. Kushina didn't believe Minato, guess who did the same: Sakura. Really scary when mess with Kushina's short temper, who does that: Sakura. Sakura this, that, everything. Gah, I can't believe I'm typing this in rage. That's it, I give up. I won't write it here because of rules, which I respect, but all I'm going to say is I'm going full blown heel when NS moment happens.

I think most of the NH fans just watch the anime of Naruto and don't bother to read the manga, so they wouldn't understand if they are fillers or not. Either that or their shipping goggles have exceeded maximum capacity.

Funny, because I feel it's the latter now, though filler could help in a way, mainly thinking Hinata has been in the story since episode 1, which is not true. But now, yeah, filler is not even on NH side anymore (even though looking back, they never were), but at least Hinata's fanservice is still ongoing. Because that's good for fans.....right?

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 10 May 2013 - 04:56 AM.

[StriderC]

Crap, they weren't comparing personality. They began with it but switched over to looks... I suck at this debating stuff. Funny how much they try to ignore the parallels though. Be ready to deal with pages upon pages of NH fans agreeing with each other though. Here's link

http://forum.naruto....p...28&page=216

Look for second comment by placeinthesun. Give me your take on this. I'm probably wrong with my first assertion, but I find it funny how they bring sasukes mother into this comparison.

@StriderC
Its a awesome, wish I had the kind of artistic skills u do. Been having a deeper appreciation for art when I began to read Naruto. How long have you been drawing?

Maybe we will see some more of Sakura. Let's just wait and see what Kishi has in store for us (no matter how antagonizing the wait and writing may be

Thanks! I've been drawing for over 16 years. I'm pretty critical when it comes to art. LOL I didn't like how he drew Sakura at all in the latest chapter. She looked like she came from his early part 1 drawing to be perfectly honest, but it seems some people didn't have a problem with the art there. LOL Maybe I was too critical, but then, it's obvious what his capabilities are so meh. He could of did way better.


Oh for sure. I've calmed down quite a bit at this point. Sort of numb to it all given nothing's been even close to what I've imagined for Sakura, but I'm not as pissed as I was before. Sure, things can definitely turn around really soon, but will I be completely satisfied with what Kishi HAS done for her? Not sure, but most likely not. If Sakura fights at this point, it may be something grand but who knows....

[Don-kun]

+1

They only do this because of their ship. They hate Sakura because they obsess about Hinata. Sad how they have to twist the story just to make their pairing even remotely possible.

... I don't believe in global warming

Then you should even my Country is going through one of the most significant droughts in history.

I think most of the NH fans just watch the anime of Naruto and don't bother to read the manga, so they wouldn't understand if they are fillers or not. Either that or their shipping goggles have exceeded maximum capacity.

No that's not it because if you're a NH fan that only watch the Anime then you might start asking why NS is so prominent in the Anime.
The thing with NH is that the don't call out each other, a NH fan can make a while speculation and 99% of the fandom will agree even if there isn't any evidence to justify his claim but a lot for the contrary.

For NH the only way to justify there pairing is with Kishi ending NS in the Summit arc allowing Naruto to start moving on to Hinata.
In other word NH is the king of jumping to conclusion with out any clear evidence a clear sign of desperation.

Edited by Don-kun, 10 May 2013 - 06:45 AM.

[Atheck]

Crap, they weren't comparing personality. They began with it but switched over to looks... I suck at this debating stuff. Funny how much they try to ignore the parallels though. Be ready to deal with pages upon pages of NH fans agreeing with each other though. Here's link

http://forum.naruto....p...28&page=216

Look for second comment by placeinthesun. Give me your take on this. I'm probably wrong with my first assertion, but I find it funny how they bring sasukes mother into this comparison.

@StriderC
Its a awesome, wish I had the kind of artistic skills u do. Been having a deeper appreciation for art when I began to read Naruto. How long have you been drawing?

Maybe we will see some more of Sakura. Let's just wait and see what Kishi has in store for us (no matter how antagonizing the wait and writing may be

I have no conclusion as to whether I should feel relieved or disappointed that there would exist fans out there who are burdened with such one-sided misconceptions. With the reading of only a few posts on that forum I realized that they have selected to not even acknowledge all of the previous interactions that would imply NS. It is as if they believe that Naruto would abruptly shift his intimate loyalties to someone else which, considering his immovable demeanour when it comes to achieving his personal dreams, I cannot help but feel is a wholly inaccurate presumption to make. Even though the NH fans and Sakura abominators fans from GF can be excessively biased towards their personal preferences they almost always use the manga for their evidence and not the anime.

Edited by Atheck, 10 May 2013 - 07:14 AM.

[StriderC]

I have no conclusion as to whether I should feel relieved or disappointed that there would exist fans out there who are burdened with such one-sided misconceptions. With the reading of only a few posts on that forum I realized that they have selected to not even acknowledge all of the previous interactions that would imply NS. It is as if they believe that Naruto would abruptly shift his intimate loyalties to someone else which, considering his immovable demeanour when it comes to achieving his personal dreams, I cannot help but feel is a wholly inaccurate presumption to make. Even though the NH fans and Sakura abominators fans from GF can be excessively biased towards their personal preferences they almost always use the manga for their evidence and not the anime.

LOL I laughed through that one linked page and I wasn't gonna go any further. It's pathetic. The arguments use to compare Hinata to Kushina were RIDICULOUS. Seems like the praise Hinata for slapping Naruto but when it's comedic with Sakura, it's a negative. One guy goes on to say Kushina and Hinata have unique traits. Then goes with hair and eyes???? WTF! LMAO It's comical really, and the one guy I kept seeing there was really a dumbass to be honest. Then when his comment was praised, I felt the same about the other NH shippers who went his route. I know it's a mean thing to say but I couldn't help feeling that way. LOL

[Branden]

I think most of the NH fans just watch the anime of Naruto and don't bother to read the manga, so they wouldn't understand if they are fillers or not. Either that or their shipping goggles have exceeded maximum capacity.

nope. the majority of them read Naruto just like we do.

[HauntedCake]

Does anyone think that Sasuke will want to rule the shinobi world, conflicting with Naruto's dream to become hokage??? Ofc it would be a dictatorship if sasuke wanted to rule the world

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Does anyone think that Sasuke will want to rule the shinobi world, conflicting with Naruto's dream to become hokage??? Ofc it would be a dictatorship if sasuke wanted to rule the world

I believe more like that but it contrast with Jiraiya's dream of peace, not with Naruto's dream to become hokage.

[redragon88]

Hey guys, this feels familiar for some reason:



I wonder why...

[Canadian_DJ]

Haha! Lol at your post, red!!

And man...im sick of the bashing in sakura!!! I swear to god guys, im SICK! just go to animeultuma.tv click on one of the latest naruto shippuden episodes, and sit back and enjoy all the hate...

Im just glad sakura is the most popular female character in the naruto series, and the heroine, and narutos lover AND badass

Thats why if I ever wanna watch naruto, I go to animecrazy

And btw guys, in nigahigas newest youtube video, he was talking about immature guys, uts supposed to be comedy, so there was this part were he was talking about how watching cartoons is immature then he showed that reading manga is mature, and he had naruto manga in his hand, and at the last second when he opened it to read it, he was like "aaahahaha...sakura your such a whore....:'D"

:'( I just HOPE my fav youtuber isnt a sakura hater......maybe hes just kidding...yeah.thats it..

[redragon88]

@Canadian_DJ

Nigahiga was the last person I expected to bring up commentary about Sakura.

I think he just based his script in what he thinks the fans would find funny. Since there's an irrational hate for Sakura going around on the internet he takes advantage of it. I found it funny myself from that perspective.

It would be the same as saying "Sasuke you're such an emo" or "Naruto you're such a dumbass".

Edited by redragon88, 10 May 2013 - 01:20 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

@Canadian_DJ

Nigahiga was the last person I expected to bring up commentary about Sakura.

I think he just based his script in what he thinks the fans would find funny. Since there's an irrational hate for Sakura going around on the internet he takes advantage of it. I found it funny myself from that perspective.

It would be the same as saying "Sasuke you're such an emo" or "Naruto you're such a dumbass".

yeah..i guess your right i think i might've taken it a lil too deep, so yeah your right!! i think he doesnt hate sakura! in fact i think he likes her! since he mentioned her! right?

[Inferno180]

I guess its reasons like this I get ashamed of the fanbase, some just put their opinions higher than others treating them as fact and don't try to even listen or think in other ways for what could happen.

Example- Many think Hinata has done more than many other characters when this is in fact false, her overall role has been minimal, even her 2 big moments were just quickly subsided. Another one is how many just use those old kishi interviews without listening or saying the full qoutes, its like how a court room dialogue evidence can be twisted at times, like for anyone who saw Iron Man 2 back in 2010, during Tony's trial when Col. Rhodes was called up, he was required to read something for the court but he said this: Judge you know if I read only statement, the context will be misinterpreted and the sole words here do not reflect what they mean word for word. and as he read he went past that and the judge told everyone to ignore everything, though this is a movie, this happens from time to time in life.

This is a reason why I absolutely hate Narupedia. Anything now with Naruto's interaction with Sakura beyond the 5 kage summit, they don't put anything, even in fillers. Yet guess who's page they keep increasing. They made no mention of Sakura healing Naruto on his page, only on Sakura's page do they mention this. They put in the little stuff with Hinata but not Sakura. What is really bad is this direct section under triva:

Despite being the heroine of the series, Kishimoto stated himself during the 2010 interview that Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura, this is due to the fact that because Sakura not only has a 'normal' background in comparison to Hinata but also because he has a hard time making good roles for female characters like Sakura, having stated on several occasions that he has a very hard time viewing her as the heroine of the series. However, Kishimoto also stated that he would try to have Sakura play more of a heroine role in the future.

Did kishi ever and I mean ever say he had a hard time viewing Sakura as the heroine on several occasions? I know its true he said that Hinata would make a better heroine given her abilities but its funny how they don't mention how he actually mentioned he thought Sakura had the makings and potential of a great heroine and could show it. Anyone care to elaborate?

Thing I hate about this fandom is, never have I seen such an insane fanbase worshipping one minor character so much for so little importance and yet just spending the majority of their time either hating on others for their preferences or trying to expand their evidence by either using fillers, twisting logic, or just plain making BS. Ugh, I really hope that in the near future either in the next few events with the ten tails fight or the near ending with the Naruto vs Sasuke fight, I really hope Hinata notices something between Naruto and Sakura and then basically gives her approval or just stands happy for Naruto. Face it, who would actually be sadder if Naruto didn't return? Sakura or Hinata? Who is more involved and caught up in everything? Its still funny how many NH fans claim she knows him best, when did Hinata like the rest of Naruto's generation find out about the 9 tails? Naruto told it voluntarily to Sakura and Sasuke and Sai found out on their own. Its just amazing from a story standpoint how many holes there are in NH, its easy for us under NS to argue this stuff because our pairing actually runs along with the main plot quite constantly.

I still stand by my statement, if these fans need to realize anything, they should take Naruto's advice "Give up and me giving up." Out of all people do they honesty expect him to give up on Sakura and not realize the total contradiction and fallacy it would bring to their own pairing? If Naruto did not feel worthy of Sakura how could be feel any worth to any other girl? Settling for Hinata would be out of pity literally. In fact he would have broken the only thing Hinata mainly sees in him about never giving up, do they even realize them asking or thinking Naruto to give up would literally undermine the entire reason for NH?

Did I just single handledly give an argument that completely destroys the central logic for NH?

[bthug]

Someone just told me to face facts and that Narhina is happening, because of the speech and her popping Narutos Shoulder....

[Inferno180]

Someone just told me to face facts and that Narhina is happening, because of the speech and her popping Narutos Shoulder....

Then why didn't she heal Naruto then? I mean people claimed she was a better medic

[StriderC]

Then why didn't she heal Naruto then? I mean people claimed she was a better medic

LOL Love their awesome logic. Tis quite amusing at best.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Didn't we already established Kishi said he was told about Hinata being a heroine instead, not him saying so, as he begged to differ saying that Sakura is the real heroine and has been showing heroine stuff for a while, only to be unleash it when he finally does? I mean I feel a lot of people get the interview wrong as of late. Chatte just provided the bit of the interview a while back, so are there some of us that gets the wrong idea of the interview still?

[redragon88]

@Inferno180

Dude, for the last time, that explanation of Kishi's interview that is posted on Narutopedia is false. The problem is that nobody there cares about correcting it, so it's left there.

What Kishi said was that people where telling him that Hinata was acting more like a heroine, but he retorted by saying that Sakura had the capacity to be a heroine and that from now on he would show her more that way.

Kishi has never said that Hinata could be a better heroine for any reason, or that he couldn't visualize Sakura as a heroine. That was an edit based on internet misconception.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@Inferno180

Dude, for the last time, that explanation of Kishi's interview that is posted on Narutopedia is false. The problem is that nobody there cares about correcting it, so it's left there.

What Kishi said was that people where telling him that Hinata was acting more like a heroine, but he retorted by saying that Sakura had the capacity to be a heroine and that from now on he would show her more that way.

Kishi has never said that Hinata could be a better heroine for any reason, or that he couldn't visualize Sakura as a heroine. That was an edit based on internet misconception.

Thank you.

[Inferno180]

@Inferno180

Dude, for the last time, that explanation of Kishi's interview that is posted on Narutopedia is false. The problem is that nobody there cares about correcting it, so it's left there.

What Kishi said was that people where telling him that Hinata was acting more like a heroine, but he retorted by saying that Sakura had the capacity to be a heroine and that from now on he would show her more that way.

Kishi has never said that Hinata could be a better heroine for any reason, or that he couldn't visualize Sakura as a heroine. That was an edit based on internet misconception.

Thank you, I was aware of the misconception, I just annoyed that basically when it comes to the majority of fans, they basically take things out of context. Only thing I like about Narupedia is basically an explanation of how things work like jutsu or whatever else, I mean when I first saw Izanagi, or the one used on Kabuto, I was confused with the whole point of it until I saw this. I mean some stuff like with the recent chapter showed that a jinchurki could die but the tailed beast comes back later, so the 3 tails was technically the only know bijuu to die and revive later on.