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#19241 Nar123

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 01:28 AM

i wonder what the REAL plot was going to be? it looked like it would have been narusaku with sasuke as the main villan untill kishi messed up, and whent SS/NH so i always thought they did the hinata plot as a big middle finger to kishi LOL. i think we COULD HAVE had it all since SP were NS shippers but, kishi blew it

 

Sasuke as a villain?

 

I kind of doubt that...it would be redundant


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:09 AM

Sakura: remember when you said you loved me? its because you didnt want to lose to him

 

naruto: oh like how you loved sasuke because you didn't want to lose to ino? kitten you



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:42 AM

Sakura: remember when you said you loved me? its because you didnt want to lose to him

 

naruto: oh like how you loved sasuke because you didn't want to lose to ino? kitten you

And then even in The Last, can't one easily say that Naruto only "loved" Hinata because of his "rivalry" with Toneri? lol


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:48 AM

And then even in The Last, can't one easily say that Naruto only "loved" Hinata because of his "rivalry" with Toneri? lol

Yes! X-D Pretty much! Since SP made him super petty.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:59 AM

And then even in The Last, can't one easily say that Naruto only "loved" Hinata because of his "rivalry" with Toneri? lol

yesh i said that in another thread in fact *nod, nod*



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 11:09 AM

Sakura: remember when you said you loved me? its because you didnt want to lose to him

 

naruto: oh like how you loved sasuke because you didn't want to lose to ino? kitten you

 

I still can't believe that thing. They took the more selfless and beautiful love of all the manga, and they erased it horribly with that crappy explanation. This is the most horrible eradication I have ever seen in my life. And they made it come out of Sakura's mouth... Sakura, of all people... Sakura who was deeply understanding Naruto and knew very well he really loved her.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:38 PM

 

I still can't believe that thing. They took the more selfless and beautiful love of all the manga, and they erased it horribly with that crappy explanation. This is the most horrible eradication I have ever seen in my life. And they made it come out of Sakura's mouth... Sakura, of all people... Sakura who was deeply understanding Naruto and knew very well he really loved her.

And that's why they chose her. Because if it comes from her someone who is close to Naruto and understands him, then it must be true.

Let me make this perfectly clear. When they set out to make The Last, the objective was simple destroy Naruto's love for Sakura and everything that would imply any sort of deep love between them, while making Hinata look like a perfect little angel that is perfection in every sense of the word. She is the best of the best, the greatest person that ever walked the earth, the only one that could ever truly love Naruto. Naruto should be grateful that such a creature was bestowed to him.

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to find a way to erase this nonsense from my mind.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:47 PM

And that's why they chose her. Because if it comes from her someone who is close to Naruto and understands him, then it must be true.

Let me make this perfectly clear. When they set out to make The Last, the objective was simple destroy Naruto's love for Sakura and everything that would imply any sort of deep love between them, while making Hinata look like a perfect little angel that is perfection in every sense of the word. She is the best of the best, the greatest person that ever walked the earth, the only one that could ever truly love Naruto. Naruto should be grateful that such a creature was bestowed to him.

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to find a way to erase this nonsense from my mind.

 

So true.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:55 PM

Sakura: remember when you said you loved me? its because you didnt want to lose to him

 

naruto: oh like how you loved sasuke because you didn't want to lose to ino? kitten you

 

Not only that - Ino and everyone else who was "in love" with Sasuke would qualify as terrible women according to Kishimoto's logic for having moved on to other people. Where's the outrage at Ino shifting her attractions over to a boy who did nothing more but give a specious compliment that was the opposite of how he truly felt about her? She's "loved" Sasuke for far longer than she ever knew Sai. If Ino is truly committed to those feelings then she shouldn't be pining after some boy whom she knows even less about than Sasuke. And what happened to Sasuke's drooling female fanbase? If they want to be considered righteous and honourable women then they'll suck up their own selfish impulses and agree to become part of Sasuke's harem for propagation.  



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:02 PM

 

Not only that - Ino and everyone else who was "in love" with Sasuke would qualify as terrible women according to Kishimoto's logic for having moved on to other people. Where's the outrage at Ino shifting her attractions over to a boy who did nothing more but give a specious compliment that was the opposite of how he truly felt about her? She's "loved" Sasuke for far longer than she ever knew Sai. If Ino is truly committed to those feelings then she shouldn't be pining after some boy whom she knows even less about than Sasuke. And what happened to Sasuke's drooling female fanbase? If they want to be considered righteous and honourable women then they'll suck up their own selfish impulses and agree to become part of Sasuke's harem for propagation.  

 

So true O_o


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 02:52 PM

 

I still can't believe that thing. They took the more selfless and beautiful love of all the manga, and they erased it horribly with that crappy explanation. This is the most horrible eradication I have ever seen in my life. And they made it come out of Sakura's mouth... Sakura, of all people... Sakura who was deeply understanding Naruto and knew very well he really loved her.

 

Yeah, I know what you mean, Otaru. :( It's why I loathe what Studio Pierrot did... they had to ruin a great love story just to justify something only they truly wanted more than others. You would think Kishimoto-sensei (and I still use the term loosely) would be pissed they spat on all he did, especially after he showed so much so that Sakura loved Naruto so much to risk everything for him to give him CPR as he was dying after Kurama was extracted from him by Madara, while Hinata, Naruto's "wife" (another term I use loosely), the person who was put with him to wed, who still had Kurama's chakra, tripped on a rock and GAVE UP TRYING TO GET TO THE DYING NARUTO, INSTEAD BEGGING THE SPIRIT OF THE RECENTLY KILLED NEJI TO PROTECT NARUTO!!!

 

HOW THE HELL DOES THAT WORK OUT!?! THIS KITTEN IS BANANAS ON SO MANY LEVELS I JUST STILL CAN'T COMPREHEND IT!!!



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:23 PM

i want honest trailers to tackle this mess.

 

join hinata~ such a strong and brave of a ninja that she forgets to climb walls, jump gaps, eat cookies, drink water from unwashed hands, and screams of cob webs



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:58 PM

i want honest trailers to tackle this mess.

 

join hinata~ such a strong and brave of a ninja that she forgets to climb walls, jump gaps, eat cookies, drink water from unwashed hands, and screams of cob webs

 

:rofl: Yes!! :D



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 05:06 PM

starring

 

the scarf

 

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naruto's mothers scarf

 

5 second cameo

 

useless leader

 

and lindsey lohan



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 05:12 PM

In the last, Naruto had multiple FANGIRLS lining up to give him presents. 

 

Hinata comes along with a scarf to give to Naruto, then sees all those fangirls, and leaves. Sakura notices and chases after her to comfort Hinata. 

 

 

Anyway, when I watched that, it really felt like Hinata was no different from those fangirls. What is Hinata to Naruto? A comrade who appreciates him, but so are all those girls. It leaves the impression that the only difference between Hinata and those fangirls is that Hinata had first dibs in her admiration (she began a decade earlier.) 

 

 

SP did a bad move in making Naruto look so popular with the girls, it really makes Hinata's admiration not-so-special anymore. At the same time, it makes Naruto look like a prize to be won over the other degraded women. 



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 05:14 PM

In the last, Naruto had multiple FANGIRLS lining up to give him presents. 

 

Hinata comes along with a scarf to give to Naruto, then sees all those fangirls, and leaves. Sakura notices and chases after her to comfort Hinata. 

 

 

Anyway, when I watched that, it really felt like Hinata was no different from those fangirls. What is Hinata to Naruto? A comrade who appreciates him, but so are all those girls. It leaves the impression that the only difference between Hinata and those fangirls is that Hinata had first dibs in her admiration (she began a decade earlier.) 

 

 

SP did a bad move in making Naruto look so popular with the girls, it really makes Hinata's admiration not-so-special anymore. At the same time, it makes Naruto look like a prize to be won over the other degraded women. 

not the mention its fanfiction cliche #274



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:02 PM

In the last, Naruto had multiple FANGIRLS lining up to give him presents. 

 

Hinata comes along with a scarf to give to Naruto, then sees all those fangirls, and leaves. Sakura notices and chases after her to comfort Hinata. 

 

 

Anyway, when I watched that, it really felt like Hinata was no different from those fangirls. What is Hinata to Naruto? A comrade who appreciates him, but so are all those girls. It leaves the impression that the only difference between Hinata and those fangirls is that Hinata had first dibs in her admiration (she began a decade earlier.) 

 

 

SP did a bad move in making Naruto look so popular with the girls, it really makes Hinata's admiration not-so-special anymore. At the same time, it makes Naruto look like a prize to be won over the other degraded women. 

You just don't understand the special romantic love that your first fangirl can give you. :D


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:21 PM

You just don't understand the special romantic love that your first fangirl can give you. :D

i sure hope youre talking about naruto to sakura



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:05 PM

i sure hope youre talking about naruto to sakura

 

I hope Nostradamus is too, Cat, considering he comes off sarcastic as hell. Also, that was a LAME cliché to use for the film. Considering Hinata wasn't jealous of Sakura, even if Sakura was saddened by finding out Hinata loves Naruto, which makes me believe Sakura was jealous of her a little there, given we were seeing she was falling in love with Naruto since he came back to the Leaf, as well as what Tenzo/Yamato said to her about how her feelings for Naruto were what was more important for what she did, not the size of her actions. Until SP freaking retconned that! SO WHAT DID IT MEAN FOR ALL THE THINGS SAKURA DID FOR NARUTO THEN!?!? X_X WHAT WAS THE POINT IF APPARENTLY, HER FEELINGS FOR SASUKE, AS WRONG AS THEY WERE, SHOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED!?! IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY NOT LET NARUTO DIE SO MANY TIMES THEN!?! ESPECIALLY IN THE SHIPPUDEN STUFF OR IN THE LAST WHEN HE DEPLETED ALL HIS CHAKRA?!! SHE DOESN'T OBVIOUSLY CARE ABOUT HIM AS MUCH AS WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE, SO WHY GIVE US THIS LIE IN THE FIRST PLACE IF SHE NEVER LOVED HIM AT ALL!?! 

 

SORRY. I had to vent a little because it pisses me off how all that development was spat in the face just for the sake of "Princess" Hinata to look better just because people assumed she "deserves" Naruto for loving him first, when she wasn't ever by his side, but Sakura was.


Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 07 June 2015 - 07:08 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:20 PM

i understand completely.

 

SP is playing with its viewers basically. they want to keep as many fans as possible just to get their money






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