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#19221 咲耶姫

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:57 PM

True, I know, but NH is fan favoured pairing, so Kishi might go with it to please his fans. 

 

wait..what's more popular in Japan, NS or NH?

NS, when you go on japaneses forums, there are more NS than NH. And since Kishi is first writting for the japanese audience, if your theory of doing pairing for the fans had to work, he would go for NS (well expet if we count the fact that SS is more popular than NS who itself is more popular than NH).


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:00 PM

Yeah I don't really get why SS is roughly the most popular pairing.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:02 PM

Again though, the situation of Hinata being removed, again, hinata being gone means no NH development can come again thus further limiting it. This is NHs main weakness, lack of development and well with her gone for x amount of chapters, its stuff like this that makes me see her as unimportant and that NH is more unlikely to happen if she just keeps missing opportunity to either grow or even work in a situation. Sakura is still around, thats a different case. NS has no issues in regarding that it can come plotwise in an acceptable way, Sakuras feelings for sasuke are in question right now, I mean last chapter gave a good speculation with her being upset he didnt care about her safety. Naruto still loves Sakura as well, theres never been anything for him turning away from sakura and 631 and 663 were just to big end hints on NS having a possible ending and sakura otherwise outright supporting naruto in the end for hokage. Same situation in 662 and 663 was again going to be present from here going forward, NS stuff has a small chance of happening during the fight but no chance at all for NH stuff and I doubt naruto will focus on hinata. Literally again, its just if hinata keeps missing screentime and naruto himself doesnt focus on her much, how can NH even be considered important at this time if there is no notion or focus on it? I believe this chapter really was the start of kishi killing it because whatever the resolution she will have with naruto is, its not going to be all that major and it just wont have validity or make sense when he is still focused on sakura, he cannot just love hinata ASAP, even if this chapter had a NH moment, it doesn't solve or change anything else thats already come up. NS is still the big picture end game pairing and well, today NH just got screwed over too many more ways with missing development, it has less and less chances to occur the more this stuff happens.



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:02 PM

Makes sense to me. I'm actually convinced that she wasn't lying to him, but I wish Naruto believed her back then.

Actually him denying wasn't really his fault. All of a sudden, whom you've liked for years comes to you and confesses when you least expect it and moreover time, background and the situation don't match at all and to make matters worse you experience all the moments your crush has with the one whom she loves, it was understable of him to decline the confession.

And btw, NS is more popular in Japan. Kishi won't write just to please the audience of a fandom. What kind of writer would that make him? And he is not that type of a writer, so...no pairing change for fan's sake.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:18 PM


because many people like Naruhina more.  :wallbash:
and naruto is aware of the facts that sakura will always love Sasuke and he had recognised this and rejected Sakura's confession because of that. but of course anything could change in the end.
 
 
 
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Toy with, sure, but go with NH, he won't do. Honestly, it's not really a big deal. It almost feel like this is something rehab worthy. What I mean is that people is for lack of better word traumatized by long time ago actions of NH that it will scare them. Today, I have seen graduated students that no longer take any crap, which I'm happy to see. Now, one final hurdle: SS. Beat this, we win. Lose this, no one wins. Lose this to asspull of Sasuke's character, all except SS lose.

Honestly, the next volume is your final test. I don't want to hear anymore excuses after this next volume. I was going to do that with the previous volume, but I'll give one more shot.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:20 PM

Toy with, sure, but go with NH, he won't do. Honestly, it's not really a big deal. It almost feel like this is something rehab worthy. What I mean is that people is for lack of better word traumatized by long time ago actions of NH that it will scare them. Today, I have seen graduated students that no longer take any crap, which I'm happy to see. Now, one final hurdle: SS. Beat this, we win. Lose this, no one wins. Lose this to asspull of Sasuke's character, all except SS lose.
Honestly, the next volume is your final test. I don't want to hear anymore excuses after this next volume. I was going to do that with the previous volume, but I'll give one more shot.


I don't understand the second paragraph

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#19227 Dalton.T.R

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:30 PM

This is NaruHina driving on the wrong side of the road going 55 mph

 

 

This is NaruSaku driving towards NH going 70 mph.

 

 

Who wins?



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:05 PM

I don't understand the second paragraph

The idea is that why you keep going back in circle when you know the obvious beforehand. In fact, while recapping this latest chapter, I just thought of myself, "Wait a minute. We have way too much evidences. How the hell are we worried about? This is ridiculous." Mind me going heel for one moment, but this is pretty odd that we keep going circle or rather being easily traumatized by something so simple. Ok, I'll credit all for withstanding this latest chapter, so I want like this for this point forward. That's not likely. But you know what, I'll give you all some slack.

People may be saying, "But 4life, it's never a big deal of NS stuff." Yeah, well, guess who's still alive and around. If Obito died a long time ago without bringing up Rin, maybe it will deduct the value a bit but guess what, still around. Why? Why not. Minato is still around but no Hinata. Why? Why not. My point is you got too much going around with no Hinata and the idea of the past that seems to be gone can come back, mainly the whole Rin situation. But there's no other females to compare now. Everyone is sleeping.

Look, I know it's been a long journey, fine. But now, the obviousness is too strong, how can we lower our standards and give our opponents ten folds. You don't hear me over blow a moment, even for NS. The reason why I said it's an NS moment because that's how Kishi writes it. It's not my fault, blame Kishi for straightening it out. We have too much fuel and one of us has to say, "Excuse me, but you have another tank to use." Then all will be good again, if not better.

Oh and heads up, June 5th is 615 animated. Don't repeat yourself, everyone.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:15 PM

Oh and heads up, June 5th is 615 animated. Don't repeat yourself, everyone.

I don't even want to remember :( 


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:27 PM

These past two weeks have been a very discouraging start of the summer for me but whatever.

I still have faith in NS still being endgame. There's only 3 other possibilities for it to end.

1. Hinata becomes up front with Naruto after the war and he returns the feelings

2. Sasuke and Sakura somehow get together after the war despite how completely OOC that would be for either of them and rendering Karin's existence completely and utterly pointless. I mean honestly how exactly does any of us picture Sasuke returning Sakura's feelings without it seeming out of character I mean back in Part 1 sure I can understand since they actually seemed really close after the whole Orochimaru incident. But as it is now even when Naruto TNJs him (we all know its coming) and Sasuke breaks down in tears and apologizes to Sakura, SS happening would still be a stretch

3. Open-ending and Kishi says kitten you to resolution and it turns out he was bullsh***ing about Naruto having a son and the story ending conclusively

None of these seem likely, that paired with 504/631/663 and the NS/SK parallels gives me some confidence in NS happening

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:34 PM

Oh and heads up, June 5th is 615 animated. Don't repeat yourself, everyone.

I'm not gonna lie, the week of that episode gonna be hard,we're just gonna have to deal with them rubbing it in our faces for a bit.

 

Beside we all know what moments come after that. :chuckle:

 

@ I agree. with the posters above. Naruto is not about pandering to the largest fanbase. It never was and never will be.



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:41 PM

Could be worse

469-630 (for those keeping score that's 4 years...)

was the great depression of NS and we survived that pretty well.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:47 PM

CPR FTW! :narusaku:


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:56 PM

Could be worse

469-630 (for those keeping score that's 4 years...)

was the great depression of NS and we survived that pretty well.

Not like many things happened. Only two or maybe three moments happened, but honestly, we killed them.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 08:11 PM

the episode of 5th june will be a 24h no stop marathon of anime about Hinata's childhood who has noticed that naruto-kun's hands were so tiny, just standing beyond trees with her byakugan activated. At the end of episode, Hinata comes back at the present time and notices how naruto-kun's hands are grew up now.


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 08:18 PM

LOL somebody posted that in fornever's Sakura ranting video. People are raging over there.

 

".... and she needs to be impedent and not relying always on others! And she needs to stop playing the drama princess who does something stupid then needs to be saved! And she needs to not losing againts fodders or fodder level guys like Omoi by one hit! And she needs to drop away that kittened up tsundere-loli queen personality! And she needs to stop foddering Tsunade's techniques! And she needs to stop this Bella Style Twilight shipping fanservice!

What she really needs, is a "third guy", who not just teaches all of these, but also won't spoiling her like Naruto and Kakashi! These two (and mostly Naruto) spoiled her into a princess!"


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 08:47 PM

LOL somebody posted that in fornever's Sakura ranting video. People are raging over there.

 

".... and she needs to be impedent and not relying always on others! And she needs to stop playing the drama princess who does something stupid then needs to be saved! And she needs to not losing againts fodders or fodder level guys like Omoi by one hit! And she needs to drop away that kittened up tsundere-loli queen personality! And she needs to stop foddering Tsunade's techniques! And she needs to stop this Bella Style Twilight shipping fanservice!

What she really needs, is a "third guy", who not just teaches all of these, but also won't spoiling her like Naruto and Kakashi! These two (and mostly Naruto) spoiled her into a princess!"

 

Someone needs a strong sedative. Fortunately, Sakura is a medic and can administer it easily. 


 


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 08:50 PM

I went to Fornever's video.( Didn't watch it, cause I didn't want to hear his BS.) In the comments there are your usual haters, but at least there are some people calling him out on his hypocrisy and defending Sakura. So there's some hope for some members of this fandom.


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 09:06 PM

LOL somebody posted that in fornever's Sakura ranting video. People are raging over there.

 

".... and she needs to be impedent and not relying always on others! And she needs to stop playing the drama princess who does something stupid then needs to be saved! And she needs to not losing againts fodders or fodder level guys like Omoi by one hit! And she needs to drop away that kittened up tsundere-loli queen personality! And she needs to stop foddering Tsunade's techniques! And she needs to stop this Bella Style Twilight shipping fanservice!

What she really needs, is a "third guy", who not just teaches all of these, but also won't spoiling her like Naruto and Kakashi! These two (and mostly Naruto) spoiled her into a princess!"

And that my friend is the Hinata fandom for ya, now not all of them but a good deal of them.

 

I went to Fornever's video.( Didn't watch it, cause I didn't want to hear his BS.) In the comments there are your usually haters, but at least there are some people calling him out on his hypocrisy and defending Sakura. So there's some hope for some members of this fandom.

why do you think I stay awa but you should look at Naruto gamerpro vid called Response Video to Forneverworld: Stop Hating Sakura Haruno 



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 09:11 PM

LOL somebody posted that in fornever's Sakura ranting video. People are raging over there.

 

".... and she needs to be impedent and not relying always on others! And she needs to stop playing the drama princess who does something stupid then needs to be saved! And she needs to not losing againts fodders or fodder level guys like Omoi by one hit! And she needs to drop away that kittened up tsundere-loli queen personality! And she needs to stop foddering Tsunade's techniques! And she needs to stop this Bella Style Twilight shipping fanservice!

What she really needs, is a "third guy", who not just teaches all of these, but also won't spoiling her like Naruto and Kakashi! These two (and mostly Naruto) spoiled her into a princess!"

i actually think sakura haters think of sakura more than sakura fans :excited:
 

i sure as hell would not bother to write, much less do a script and upload a hinata rant on youtube.


Edited by Hanabi, 21 May 2014 - 09:13 PM.

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